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I should also point out something which I am sortof surprised has not been mentioned yet, considering the amount of noise that is getting made about the potions of concentration.
The Distillates of Regeneration are NOT Equivalent to the old potions of Rejuvenvation, because the current Distillate of Regeneration line potions do not stack with player cast regen buffs, whereas the old Rejuvenation line potions did. My poor shaman is a sad panda because she can no longer get a short boost to her regen via potion - though I may have to look into the possibility of using Distillates of Celestial Healing for this purpose instead, but the fact remains that the Rejuvenation potion has had its stacking regen functionality removed.
Edit: Just did the math on Distillates of Celestial Healing. At level 58, a Distillate of Celestial Healing VIII (which becomes clickable at 55) is...uh...roughly equivalent to a Rejuvenation potion, though the healing occurs over a shorter span of time. I guess this...sortof works, but to actually -make- the Distillate potion requires crankily rare drops (I'm sure we're all aware of the issue with Red Cups) while the old rejuvenation potion was entirely storebought for...uh... well, I never made one, only bought them, so I don't know, though the recipe list here makes it look stupidly cheap. @_@Last edited by Unmei; 03-29-2006, 04:16 PM.
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This list is not "The equivalent of the old potion X is now potion Y", it is the list used by the Dev Tools to do a "find and replace" -- although the replacements don't seem to have been complete, probably because of the sheer number of player inventory spaces that need to be scanned during a patch downtime.
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My personal guess is they couldn't chech shared banks, so anything that was in there was missed. That's just a guess with no substantiation, though, other than that in the past they've had similar problems with shared banks.Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
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There was an error in the tool that did the exchange that caused the tool to crash out.
They have not decided to run the tool since then.Ngreth Thergn
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So I have another problem. The reinforced medicine bag used to be able to combine the potions into 5 or 10 dose format. Now since the expansion the potions are stackable so the function was removed. However, (here's my problem) the old potions made are not stackable and cannot be combined in the revamped bag. So basically I'm stuck with many one charge potions since I didn't know this was going to happen. I didn't even think about it until recently since I have been skilling up making potions by the thousands and have very little space to put them in. Is there a way that the old potions (non-5 or 10 dose versions) can be made stackable or something please? This would free up a ton of my inventory slots. If not, I will just have to deal and keep selling my potions to vendors instead of people.Rinikku - 78th Level Shaman of the Seventh Hammer
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Originally posted by RinikkuSo I have another problem. The reinforced medicine bag used to be able to combine the potions into 5 or 10 dose format. Now since the expansion the potions are stackable so the function was removed. However, (here's my problem) the old potions made are not stackable and cannot be combined in the revamped bag. So basically I'm stuck with many one charge potions since I didn't know this was going to happen. I didn't even think about it until recently since I have been skilling up making potions by the thousands and have very little space to put them in. Is there a way that the old potions (non-5 or 10 dose versions) can be made stackable or something please? This would free up a ton of my inventory slots. If not, I will just have to deal and keep selling my potions to vendors instead of people.Ngreth Thergn
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Grandmaster Smith 250
Master Tailor 200
Ogres not dumb - we not lose entire city to froggies
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Before the tool that converts Items is run again. I will remove from the list at least some of the potions that did not get a new version. This way people can keep their old stuff.
And no there is nothing I can do about people who had their stuff converted already.
And no, I will not be re-enabling the old recipes for those either. If they come back, they will come back in the new system.Ngreth Thergn
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Grandmaster Smith 250
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Ogres not dumb - we not lose entire city to froggies
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I am looking at removing the following formt he exchange list so they do not get exchanged...
10 Dose Elixir of Concentration
10 Dose Elixir of Greater Concentration
10 Dose Potion of Calimony
10 Dose Potion of Rejuvenation
10 Dose Potion of Soluan's Vigor
10 Dose Potion of Stinging Wort
10 Doses of Greater Rejuvenation
10 Doses of Lesser Rejuvenation
5 Dose Elixir of Concentration
5 Dose Elixir of Greater Concentration
5 Dose Potion of Calimony
5 Dose Potion of Rejuvenation
5 Dose Potion of Soluan's Vigor
5 Dose Potion of Stinging Wort
5 Doses of Greater Rejuvenation
5 Doses of Lesser Rejuvenation
Elixir of Concentration
Elixir of Greater Concentration
Potion of Calimony
Potion of Greater Rejuvenation
Potion of Rejuvenation
Potion of Soluan's Vigor
Potion of Lesser Rejuvenation
Potion of Stinging Wort
is there any orthers I am missing?Ngreth Thergn
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So let me understand this just in case I missed something.
The exchange tool is going to be run again, but those in the above post will not be exchange if they didnt get exchange the first time around.
If they got exchanged already, then they will stay the way they are.
The potions will still be obsolete and if they come back they will come back in the new system.
Is this correct? and BTW thanksFishing --> 200
Brewing -> 287
Baking --> 196
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Originally posted by SumadorSo let me understand this just in case I missed something.
The exchange tool is going to be run again, but those in the above post will not be exchange if they didnt get exchange the first time around.
If they got exchanged already, then they will stay the way they are.
The potions will still be obsolete and if they come back they will come back in the new system.
Is this correct? and BTW thanks
In addition. If a new recipe is created... the tool will be run to do a conversion of those when we replace them.
Trying fancy tricks to hide the items will not work by the way. Once we are sure the tool has run, we are going to delete the old items that have been converted. (the Items we have converted... not the ones above being removed... until we actually do replace them) So all the fancy hiding techniques will be for naught, and folks that try will be worse off than if they did not try and hide it at at least got SOMETHING.Ngreth Thergn
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Grandmaster Smith 250
Master Tailor 200
Ogres not dumb - we not lose entire city to froggies
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Does the replacement tool look at the number of charges left and replace with stack of that many? (I would assume it does, but want to make sure)
Also, if you're looking for some items numbers to free up, take a look at all the variations of the same arrows made from fletching. I'd almost be willing to bet that 2/3 of the possible arrows have only shown up on live servers less than a dozen times.-- Mewkus: 2100 dings on the server formerly known as Solusek Ro
try: Inventory/Flags/Spells tracker program - (sample output)
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Originally posted by mewkusDoes the replacement tool look at the number of charges left and replace with stack of that many? (I would assume it does, but want to make sure)
Also, if you're looking for some items numbers to free up, take a look at all the variations of the same arrows made from fletching. I'd almost be willing to bet that 2/3 of the possible arrows have only shown up on live servers less than a dozen times.Ngreth Thergn
Ngreth nice Ogre. Ngreth not eat you. Well.... Ngreth not eat you if you still wiggle!
Grandmaster Smith 250
Master Tailor 200
Ogres not dumb - we not lose entire city to froggies
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