Radiant Cut Tourmaline

[Winifred_angelwhispe]

Hello all,

I've read Eqtraders before and always found it's a great site for information. I just bought a Radiant Cut Tourmaline because I found with combination of black gold inlay, it could yield the effect (Affliction Haste V) that I want and the failure will give me back the Radiant Cut Tourmaline(RCT) seems.

However, after reading more lists for other recipes that could use the RCT, I m surprised that it could yield other products with different effects and now I m perplexed.

What I worry is that the list for recipes for RCT here is not correct. It seems RCT might need to combine with reduced amber resin, stone of celerity and other to yield the non-failable components that I want.

I'd be most grateful if any one of you could enlighten me with that. Thank you very much.

[Akishka]

Ok, first off, any stone can be combined with any mark + inlay to produce the effect that you want.

Second off, wow do those recipies seem off, no wonder you are confused! To look up information, it might be best if you looked at General Augment Instructions and Thread Showing Item Properties.

Anyway, you have a cut gem (note the following info is for gems, if you have a stone, its slightly different) - now we have to add a mark. To do this you get your mark. Since you want affliction haste you need Mark of Celerity, this can be purchased from poison vendors. To add your mark to the stone you need amber resin and treanic acid. Amber reason is made by poison / alchemy with store bought stuff. You will need trean flies for the acid, these are dropped in OOW or your friendly neighborhood bazaar. You will also need a rogue / shaman for the final combine as it is only done with poison making or alchemy. This combine can fail and you will lose everything.

But, lets assume all goes well. You now have a Radiant Cut Tourmaline of Minor Celerity, Mana Regen 3 and Affliction Haste III. But, you want Affliction Haste V. This is where you would need a black inlay. Please note that if you add a white inlay at this point, you will never be able to upgrade it to black status. To make a black inlay you need a black gold ingot (vendor sold, little over 6k) and dicordiant scoriae (super rare drop in OOW). Any smith can do the combine for the black inlay but again, you can fail and lose both the ingot and scoriae.

Now, final step. Combine the black gold inlay with the Radiant Cut Tourmaline of Minor Celerity, again using a nice rogue or shaman as they are the only ones who can do this step. This is not no fail BUT, if you fail, you will get the stone returned to you. The inlay will be lost. If all goes well in all of these steps, you will now have a Radiant Cut Tourmaline of Pure Celerity, Mana Regen 3 and Affliction Haste V

As you can see, you want somebody with the given tradeskill as high as possible and hopefully salvage AA and the reduce failure AA.

[Winifred_angelwhispe]

Radiant Cut Tourmaline

Thank you for your comprehensive explanation Akishka

Sadly, I've bought an overpriced Radiant Cut Tourmaline in bazaar (thought it's a unfailable stone already ) and it now needs another high trivial combine by shm/rogue to be made as a stone.

Anyway, may I confirm again if that RCT needs to use Slugworm acid + hydrated amber resin OR the Treanic acid + reduced amber resin plus the mark of celerity to be made as the stone pls?

Thank you very much indeed

[Amaruk]

Tourmaline is classified as a gemstone so you MUST use the Treanic acid + reduced amber resin with the mark of Celerity to make the Radiant Cut Tourmaline of Minor Celerity.

The Slugworm acid is used to mark the commoner xxxFLOW STONE augments. It is NOT usable with a gemstone.

As a side note, the gemstone you bought has already gone though one high trivial combine to become Radiant. Paying a high price for an item that is made with a 50% fail rate is not too bad. Imagine if you bought the normal Tourmaline and they tried to upgrade it to Radiant and failed. To get the best augment you have to go though 4 trivials all over 250 in their respective skills.

[Winifred_angelwhispe]

Radiant Cut Tourmaline

Thank you very much for your clarification

Now I m going to urge my shaman friend(already with 200 alchmistry skill) to get the relevant AA so that I could try the combine

[balkamp]

FYI, that tourmaline isn't out of the woods yet. I the etching fails it will be lost. (barring salvage).

balkamp

[Celestya]

Hmm. So which is it? Akishka says the stone isn't lost on etching. Balkamp says it is. I've been lucky thus far and have had the combines succeed on first attempts. Is anyone out there who has had it fail and not had the gemstone/flowstone returned with a salvage message?

[Akishka]

As far as I know etching = putting the mark in. And I said that you could lose your mark at that point. So there is no disagreement here

This combine can fail and you will lose everything.

Its the inlay step where supposedly the augment is returned.

[Verdandi]

The OoW Tradeskilled Augs guide might help clear up what each step is called and what it involves.

When you cut or etch a stone, the stone is lost on failure. When you inlay, only the inlay is lost on failure.

[Baldary]

Frankly, with the value of the FT 3 of the Radiant Cut Tourmaline, I would advise to just use it as an augment itself without etching. Get the effect etched on another augment that is not nearly as avaluable, be it gemstone or flowstone.

Baldary

[The Judge, Alchem]

I had the first Radiant Cut Tourmaline on my server and it went for 300k, so yeah, the augment is valuable itself but what's the challenge if you can't go further? /evil grin

[shamuofxev]

question, if you equip and resolve the augment, can you still upgrade it? I got a radiant appatite, but no ingredients for the upgrades yet. Can I equip if for the time being and upgrade the no drop version later?

[Akishka]

If you are capable of upgrading the stone, its no problem to update at a later time. However, unless you are a rogue or a shaman, its impossible for you to upgrade it yourself. So be careful who uses this option

[shamuofxev]

If you are capable of upgrading the stone, its no problem to update at a later time. However, unless you are a rogue or a shaman, its impossible for you to upgrade it yourself. So be careful who uses this option

Thanks, I was worried that the no drop version would loose it's "tradeskill" flag; guess now I have to grind out the 33 AA for alchemy mastery and salvage. Ugh.