"snare" potions

[SilverfurMangycoat]

Maddoc -

Is there any difference between the snare potions for the end user (range, duration, etc.) or are the later ones just extra trivial bridges for the alchemists?


Silv/Ward

[eniamn]

The spells are not identical -- Each tier have different resist mods, making them progressively more beneficial (this applies to all thrown potions).

hehe he already said it.

[Tyck of RN]

Originally posted by Maddoc-the-Wayfarer
I'm going to take a look at the prices on these things too - Someone mentioned they were 11p to make, which wasn't the intent.

They're supposed to be closer to 1-5p (depending on the tier), so that they're actually cost-effective to use as well.

-- Maddoc

Oh, I think there might be a small problem.
They start out at 4.4 pp for level I.

Ref: http://mboards.eqtraders.com/upload/...ing+Concoction

Ensnaring Concoction I: Vial, Cork, Yellow Rheum, Angurth, Kaktu, Bitterwood
Costs are: Cork: 1cp, Vial: 2g0s9c, all other ingredients: 1p0g4s9c each

0001 pp - Cork
0209 pp - Vial
1049 pp - Yellow Rheum
1049 pp - Angurth
1049 pp - Kaktu
1049 pp - Bitterwood
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4406 pp - Ensnaring Concoction I (Trivial 82)

Anybody have the prices and recipes for the other levels?

[SilverfurMangycoat]

Doh! Thanks Eniamn, I missed it.

Silv/Ward

P.S. I cross posted some of Maddoc's replies to the Shaman's Crucible Alchemy forum. They were asking many of the same questions.

[Tudani]

Originally posted by Maddoc-the-Wayfarer
The spells are not identical -- Each tier have different resist mods, making them progressively more beneficial (this applies to all thrown potions).

I know the spdat supposidly isn't 100% accurate but lucy is currently showing every single one of the new potions with the same resist mod (-1). Just wanted to bring it to attention if it is indeed a bug, if not, feel free to ignore me.

[Tyck of RN]

doh! You mentioned spdat! Now the Developer Mob will despawn!

Bad user, Bad! No cookie for j00!

[Maddoc-the-Wayfarer]

Nope, that's not a bug

They won't necessarily show their full potential from a parse of the spells file. Sneaky, sneaky, I am.

-- Maddoc

[Veril]

Throwing skill, shaman need throwing skill! a little would be nice so that we can use these without missing

[Frosh]

These rock

Went from zero skill (20 or 25 after I trained) to 180 in about 4 hours and for under 5k making these and doing the quests. 11pp was my cost per level I and 12pp per level III which don't trivial until 227.

The Stun version will be the most useful.

With 150ish cha they sold back for about 50% of cost.

This was all done on day one of GoD.

[Tyck of RN]

Yes. A good skill up path... with reasonable sell back... and usable effects that there's a market for.

Who are you, and how did you sneak onto the EQ Dev Team!

BTW, if you ever attend a fan-faire... I'm gonna have to buy you a drink or three.

[Maddoc-the-Wayfarer]

Shhh, don't ruin my disguise!

[Lilosh]

Originally posted by Maddoc-the-Wayfarer
Shhh, don't ruin my disguise!

I knew I read the alchemy forum for a reason.

Maddoc, it's AWESOME to hear that you're introducing new ways to skill up expensive skills.

It's AWESOME to hear that you're also not objected to tradeskilled-results selling back for just under the cost of the components.

I'm quite encouraged to hear this. I just hope it spreads from Alchemy, and into other skills as well.

....
On a similar note, (and I'm VERY sorry for the hijack), was the reduction of the Flame Bolt (tinkering recipe) trivial by 100 intentional? Seems like it might have been a nice skillup path, but with the last patch, it's been knocked down by a hundred.
.....

-Lilosh

[Iboric]

New GoD Potions not working??

these dont work when you try to throw them.. Either you are to close or to far from the mob.. I have tired a bunch of times and get anything to leave my hand.. Has anyone else had this problem?? I know as shamans we dont have a throwing skill but think we should still be able to use these..

If you have any ideas what I could be doing wrong or missing please let me know..

[Maddoc-the-Wayfarer]

I'll look at the range on these, see if they're problematic, and if so, adjust them accordingly It won't be an instantaneous thing (since my list of things to look at is getting really large nowadays...), but I'll definately get to it.

Flame Bolt did have it's trivial reduced, it was just a little too easy.

-- Maddoc

[Iboric]

Thanks for looking into it.. It might be something other than the range but I am not sure.. Its like I can't even use it.. I try to throw it and nothing happens.. Too close or too far...