why are enchanters so special?

[Mahlig]

The answer is simple. Enchanters (as their name implies) enchant. They are therefore required to create a magical entity where one was not magical before (divine blessings for clerics are another discussion entirely). Be glad they get it only for JC and not all tradeskills.

[Cigarskunk]

LOL - actually, as a 33 chanter who will probobly never see a single AA point, I really don't like this - it put me out of business in the combine market since no one wants to pay for a combine unless they can get the near garanteed success of an AA master chanter now.

[Bennan]

No idea Lilandraa, perhaps you could ask the makers of Everquest, and pass the response you get back to us.

[Cantatus]

why are enchanters so special?

Because I'm one?

[Quesci]

/auc Looking for an enchanter or cleric to Imbue Valor. Paying for your time.
/auc Looking for an enchanter or druid to Imbue Storms. Paying for your time.
/auc Looking for an enchanter or shaman or necromancer to Imbue Disease. Paying for your time.
/auc Looking for an enchanter or necromancer to Imbue Nightmare. Paying for your time.

I'm not an enchanter. I can't imbue gems. I can't enchant metal or clay. I can't clarify, thicken, crystallize, distill, or purify mana. (I also can't forage, but that is a different issue).

I'm a wizard, I'm a tradeskiller. And I thank agnostic every day that I can kill greens and my INT is 305. I can't imagine what it would be like if I was a monk. Oh wait, yes I can. That's why my monk doesn't tradeskill except smithing.

Accept the things that you can do, the things that you have. And remember that there are so many enchanters out there that jewelcraft items have a miniscule margin of profit. On Quellious, Valorous rings sell for 8k, while the raw components can sell in the bazaar for 7000pp if you sell them separately.

[Luclingal]

Accept the things that you can do, the things that you have. And remember that there are so many enchanters out there that jewelcraft items have a miniscule margin of profit. On Quellious, Valorous rings sell for 8k, while the raw components can sell in the bazaar for 7000pp if you sell them separately.

exactly. and to quote myself....

JC is the easiest skill to acquire 250 in, but also the most useless. Not even blue diamond gear is that big of a turn on anymore. Bd's are getting vendored!! JC as a whole is outdated. The only thing LEFT for JC is PoP items, and have you actually tried to get a few metallic liquids for yourself? without paying 5k a pop on them? I have, 0-4 right now. Better be ****ed sure once I do get 1 I want as decreased chance of failing as I can possibly get. And since only chanters can imbue and enchant the bulk of the stuff....only fitting

Defending my chantress alter ego aside, I actually wish they would do this for all skills, available to all classes, if you want MHO. Because I could give a rats ass about my 250 in JC, but what I don't want to fail at is those same metallic liquids in pottery, which I can't get the AA skill in

[Moonlilly]

nm

[Sylphan]

To answer the first post...

First, there's a lot of history behind it. For a long time it was mostly enchanters who did jewelcraft. People just assumed all enchanters were jewellers, as if it was a class ability. Enchanters early on were identified more with jewelry than with mesmerize, charm, or clarity. Seen in that light 'jewelry AAs for enchanters' is no crazier than 'big damage AAs for wizards'. Wizards aren't the only class that casts damage spells, but they're the only class that gets certain AAs.

Second, a year or two ago that was changing, for a variety of reasons including clarity bots, more wealth, more interest in tradeskills, blue diamond jewelry, etc. Almost anyone could make jewelry. Giving the AA to enchanters was probably meant to preserve a dying tradition. It might have seemed like a good idea at the time to preserve some aspects of the EQ culture.

Third, it probably seemed only slightly unfair. Back then there were no PoP recipes and jewelcraft wasn't very profitable. It's only become significant as tradeskills became much more popular, cross-skill recipes became more common, and rare ingredients became more important than store-bought. It's a bigger deal now, it really is unfair. But even now it's not much worse than you being unable to buy Dire Charm from the enchanter list, or than monks being unable to forage to raise their baking skill. Those things are unfair too. Every class has certain advantages.

[Moraganth]

This topic does come up fairly often, however the more common version is a chanter bash on them being the only ones to make mana vials... or how chanters are just so evil.. ect...

I truely belive that chanters were given the JC mastery aa because verant couldn't think of some other aa to give us.

I would love to see some form of aa (or something) added, similar to the tannin mastery, where anyone could buy into any, or all, tradeskills in this way. Although.. as Cigarskunk pointed out, and i feel the same, i don't think aa is the way to go for ANY tradeskill things. It limits tradeskills to 51+ toons, and that's simply not right.

I don't think there should be only one class with an aa like this. Tradeskills started out as somethign anyone at any level could do, i think that should be the way they stay.

How about we come up with ideas on how to do this, and put it to Sony.

on a side note (because there has to be side notes):

I'm guessing you weren't playing a few years back when enchanters wouldn't stop whining about VI's promise that they would be able to enchant items. Hence the reason only they can enchant metal and make mana vials. Being able to imbue raw diamonds in any flavor and getting an AA ability to improve JC is just a continuation of their tossing chanters a bone.

Actually you're right, if you consider the original written definition of the class a "promise." Enchanting things was what Enchanters (notice the similarity in the names...) were supposed to be able to do.. as written...

The chanters being the only class to chant metal, and make mana vials started much before the chanter uprising on making items, which probably led to the expanded role tradeskills took in EQ at the time.

[Unidin]

lalalalalalalalalalla...


couldn't get more creative with AAs. Chanters dont like this ability either....


lalalalalalalalalalla...

[Lilandraa]

well ok then haha

wow should have done a search I guess WOW I will be sending Sony that email, I have alot of money and time invested in tradeskills as I am sure alot of you have as well. sorry to bring up a "dead horse"

[Unmei]

It's okay. We love you anyway.