Leatherfoot bags - why o why o why?

[Tootle]

The darn leatherfoot backpacks require 4 combines of the most expensive component - blue diamonds. This includes 2 combines where all 3 required for the recipe are combined! Even when trivial, that's 4 combines of 1KPs-worth of BDs (on AB) with the built in fail rate. What were they thinking?? *bonk*

Oh man it hurts, 3 BDs and 3 platinum threads (1600PP) disapear on a **** trivial combine!

[Hibashira]

You need to be quite a bit higher than trivial to achieve actual 95% success rate. Just having skill at trivial level will give you plenty of failures.

[Tootle]

Yes, about 30 points higher iirc.

[Alyster]

I started making Leatherfoot Haversacks at 212 skill. I now have a 241 tailoring and out of 15 attempts with geerlock, I've yet to fail a final combine. Maybe I'm really lucky, but I think that there is something bugged with the success rate on these.

Others I've talked to on my server have also mentioned a abnormal success rate on these. I'm not complaining but I all for making attempts pre-trivial on these.

[Frabbens]

I'm now 8 for 16 on haversacks between 181 and 190 skill. Failed the last three (including one for a guildmate).

That said, the instant I scrounge up 36 tufts I'm back to work.

[Kaysha Soulsinger]

Actually, the 95%-success rate skill gets lower and lower, the higher your skill gets. At low skills, it's indeed true that the 95% success level is reached only 20-30 points higher ... but that number dwindles, to match the actual skill at around 170-175 skill and above that skill, you get your 95% success rate already below the trivial level of the item.

[Woodeckt]

I have to admit that the blue diamond pre combines are messed up my brewing is in the 190's and my pottery is in the 190's also. I have failed more then I care to count Blue Diamond crushing with acid and even combining with the water. My smithing is only 162 but I have only failed 2 of the temper and thread combines or temper and ore combines. It does not make sense that crushing them and combining with water fails well over 5%.

[Delfontes]

I've always wondered when you are destroying a blue diamond, and crushing it into powder... how do you fail exactly.. make too big chunks?

As a GM brewer I find it funny when I fail at soda water, I am mixing soda with water... how hard is that exactly? hehehe

[splunge]

You got to remember, this is the EQ world where frogs cast spells, the one race probably most suceptable to skin cancer wear thongs and all females have breasts bigger then Neptune.

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[Reflan]

I for one am not going to criticize the right -- indeed the obligation -- of people who don't exist to have gigantic breasts that don't exist.

[Angelsyn]

/shrug

BDs are often found on Vendors on Xegony... Even when they aren't, you can get 'em for 400p or less if you shop around.

~2-2.5kpp for a 10-slot 100% wt reduction pack? Easy.

[Tootle]

FYI: 10 attempts, 9 successes at 213.

I've lost more on the pre-combines (all trivial) than on the final combine (still trivial). Go figure.

These seem to be a bit like the Fleeting Quivers, more reliable when approaching the trvial level than most items. Maybe there's a variable in there somewhere.

[Kytelae]

For people who are doing these, are you doing your own BD subcombines too? And if so, what level of pottery and smithing are you at for reasonable successes?

[Tootle]

Circa 200 for all. Well over trivial.

[Frabbens]

Brewing 175, smithing 172, pottery 136. I don't fail subcombines very frequently (my little epic disaster notwithstanding, wherein I ended up using nine blue diamonds to make three infused threads); they're all trivial. I am, however, far more likely to fail the tuft subcombines; needing only 36 tufts is fairly unusual.