GDARN PRICES!$@$@!#

[Troodon]

While I agree that their prices are too high, I feel the need to point out that only Wood Elf and Iksar newbies, along with Rangers, can forage these at "level 1".

Druids get forage at level 4, and I don't recall when bards get it.

But hey, I can't even imagine paying 50 for one of them. That just reinforces the high price.

Picking nits,
-Lilosh

Bards get it at 12. Their cap is only 55 though, barely better than an iksar or wood elf.

I always feel weird about selling something that cost me nothing to get for the insane prices I seem them go for. Morning dew especially. I still wonder why high elf cultural requires an item that no high elf can get on their own. Seems like a cruel trick...

On another note, I've seen quite rediculous prices on items that leads me to believe that they just have no idea what it's actually worth. What's been a constant joke lately in my guild is the person trying to sell the cleric/shaman sepll "Imbue diamond" for 100pp... when it's sold by NPC merchants for only 5pp. Not hard to find either, it's sold in the Freeport cleric guild.

Also saw somebody selling a wurm scale for 10k once. Maybe he thought it was the same as a fragon scale, hehe.

[Cigarskunk]

There does seem to be a fairly recent trend regarding foraged items, silks, meats and similar tradeskill items.

I think people simply learned the wrong lessons from the big tradeskill upgrade last year - they saw tradeskillers selling stuff for 50k that was as good as or better than alot of mob dropped items and now they think that every tradeskill item out there is being sold for mad plat - they want thier cut.

If I was on Velious foraging all day I wouldn't be level 65 with a good source of money....

So because I can get the items myself that justifies me having to pay more?

LOL - that was a wonderful response - so you feel that others should work VERY cheaply for you while you go out and make the uber plat?

You need to do a cost assesment analysis here my friend - what is your time worth vs what someone else feels their time is worth.

As of right now, you feel that people are charging too much for the fur, but you also feel that the fur is not worth your time foraging personally.

You can't have both - it's either more profitable for you to forage the stuff yourself, or it's more profitable for you to make uber plat and pay someone else to do it for you. When that person is charging more that you feel the item is worth vs your time to get it yourself, then it's time for you to get it yourself - understand? 8)

I always feel weird about selling something that cost me nothing to get for the insane prices I seem them go for. Morning dew especially. I still wonder why high elf cultural requires an item that no high elf can get on their own. Seems like a cruel trick...

I used to feel that way too - then I gave half a stack of morning dew that my ranger had foraged up to someone and proceeded to watch them start auctioning the finished product for quite a bit of plat - those free fur patches are going to be turned into a 5000plat bag - it's no weirder then selling that fungi tunic you looted for free off of a mob for 50k.

[Woodeckt]

Having read this thread I must come to the resuce of my level 65 brother druid.

I am a druid if you notice in the signature and I also make the cultural bags. I am only level 55 however so I am trying to level and get AA points and still tradeskill here and there and bring in some cash so my wife can play her trades when she feels like it.

Ok ok ok on to my support.

I will pay 20pp each for the tufts but it is rediculous to ask for more than that for them IMHO

It takes 36 of these things assuming no failure in 16 combines
(ok get real we all know in 16 combines you are lucky not to have a failure or 3 on trivials)

As for being able to forage them myself YES I DO and with 255 wis (incase it matters) 200 Maxed out Forage and even a Forage Machette It takes hours yes hours in thurgadin or anywhere in velious (thurgadin is the easiest to get them i have found) to get these dang tufts.

I really just wish that the GNOMES would invent a DANG WOLF SHAVER so i can just grab those dang dire wolfs hold them down and SHAVE THEIR ****'s.

/rant off [/list][/code]

[Lilosh]

As for being able to forage them myself YES I DO and with 255 wis (incase it matters) 200 Maxed out Forage and even a Forage Machette It takes hours yes hours in thurgadin or anywhere in velious (thurgadin is the easiest to get them i have found) to get these dang tufts.

As a Halfling tailor , I don't like high prices either, and I dont pay more then 5-10p for them.
But it seems as though this quote is a good reason as to why people should be able to charge higher prices.

Whenever my guild raids Kael, I "/rs FORAGERS: Remember to save those tufts for me!"
I shout when I am passing through the zones.

If You need all 64 tufts RIGHT NOW!!!!! And you dont have the supplies on hand, then you will need to spend a goodly amount of money. And it very well might be more then you want to pay.
Now, as I keep restating, I think that 100p is total nonsense as well. But then again, I collect my own tufts.

OHH!!!! Here's a nice thought. They should drop off of Dire Wolves, In GD! It makes sense.

And munwin: My last post doesnt apply to you , since I stated "If you can get them , but choose not to". Clerics have no way of getting them other then asking/begging/buying.

-Lilosh

[munwin]

Lilosh. All your tufts are belong to me!


Munwin Mistwalker
Triton of Povar
THE Original Halfling Cleric
GM Tailor/Brewer

[Zhorn]

What pisses me off is people have jacked up the prices for Night Terror temper pieces in the last week

Having to pay 3 or 4kpp to Attempt an item that might sell for 9kpp is just not good!!! (Night Terror Leggings, for instance).

I don't have a problem with paying 500pp per Nightmare Mephit Blood or Fetid Slime... But now some F#@#ers decided first 800pp then 1100pp was a good price.
And the guy refused to negoiate. Oh well luckily I can still get quite a few from just /auc WTB them at 500pp.

Or I can take my shaman + rogue to PoN and pharm them myself I guess.

[Woodeckt]

Lilosh

yes I agree I do have the oppurtunity to go get the tufts myself and is better than a cleric tailor.

Great idea on the dropping from wolfs.

I just find it annoying that the people want to sell them for those ungodly amounts and then want the bags for 4k.

[Kytelae]

'Tis human nature to want to buy low and sell high. I'm not surprised any more, I've learned to be patient instead

I have an interesting take on how bazaar prices fluctuate. I've been making acrylia studded armor for skillups, and instead of making masks which are so flooded you can't sell them, I've been making gorgets, sleeves, legs, and of course cloaks, all of which have a slow but steady market at a price that returns me a small profit. So I decided to take my small profits and plow them back into my tailoring skills, by buying some acrylia in the bazaar to save myself some farming time.

I have my trader up pretty often so I started scouting out small pieces of acrylia at the best prices, and when I would find them at a price I liked (under 50 plat each, especially 40 or less), I'd buy up all I could find. Over the course of a few days, I stopped seeing small pieces of acrylia for less than 50 plat each, and most of it was going for far more.

I think that by buying up all the cheapest small pieces, I personally drove the price upwards. In my experience, most people check the price of their items before they price it themselves, to either match or slightly beat the general price. By buying up all the cheapest acrylia, I left only the more expensive pieces for people doing price checks, and prices rose to that higher level. Basicly, I undercut my own buying scheme!

The moral of this story is: don't get greedy. Always leave a few cheap pieces for other people to price check against.

[Hobbun]

I just find it annoying that the people want to sell them for those ungodly amounts and then want the bags for 4k.

Hehe I see your point Woodeckt. That's when you say to those people "Sure, I'll make it for 4k for you, just as soon as you get me the tufts."

Hobbun

[Woodeckt]

Hobbun

THat is what I do and also the ones that say but I can get a tink bag for **** my standard reply is have a nice day .

I had three people stop me in POK wanting my bags and pay me the amount I am asking even though they were on their way to get tink bags becuase of the long hike majorly encumbered it takes to get tink bags.

Kytelae

I have been guilty of this myself and what I do now is just go to the bazaar and auction. for the past week there have not been any BD up for sale under 500pp. I auctioned in bazaar last night and bought 26 of them at 350 each so I am a happy hairy foot again. You might try auctioning you never know.

[Alyster]

While some have continued their stance that I have no place to complain, I thank those other Halfing tailors who feel my pain.


I have no problem buying people's time to forage as some have put it here, but forget it if you expect me to pay "market price". This is a FORAGED ITEM. I've stated earlier that I've paid up to 50pp for one, and yes, this is way too much. But I understand that if I need it, I'll buy it.

Just to update you, I've not bought any Tufts (well 1 at 5pp) in the bazaar since my first post. The prices have dropped down to 95pp now, but there were over 200 tufts in the bazaar. Now, my willpower is running down. I really want to go buy them all and make some bags, but I'm gonna keep holding out until some prices drop.

I don't make bags for anyone else other than close friends and guildies because of the cost effectiveness.

[Flickering]

Lol i find it funny that the original poster is bold enough to say these sort of things :

Now as a 65 Druid with a good source for pp (between 50-70k with a good amount of effort in a week) I've been privilaged enough to buy most of my components and not had to farm

and

I'm in a guild where I don't need money

YET he has the audacity to complain about prices. From the outset you have glorified yourself with not needing money and having a tonne of it anyway, so as other people suggested what are you looking for someone to do all the hard work for cheap prices?
Kinda lame imo


Flickering
Coercer of EMarr.

[Annywyn Picnicmaker]

Well, having 250 skill in baking and slowly working my way up in Tailoring to making Haversacks, this is what i do.

Any time I am in EW, GD or Thurg, I auction. I pay 10 plat per or I trade Misty Picnics for them. Maybe try auctioning in those zones and don't worry about the bazaar pricing.

[Cigarskunk]

Just to update you, I've not bought any Tufts (well 1 at 5pp) in the bazaar since my first post. The prices have dropped down to 95pp now, but there were over 200 tufts in the bazaar. Now, my willpower is running down. I really want to go buy them all and make some bags, but I'm gonna keep holding out until some prices drop.

We do feel bad for the prices that the tufts are at, it's simply that you're comming off very poorly to most of us.

You boasted that you pull in 50-70k a week and that you couldn't earn that uber plat if you wasted your time foraging in Velious.

So here's your choices -

1) You can pay 19,000 for 200 tufts and still be 31-51k ahead for this week.

2) You can forage them yourself and gamble that you don't take 10k worth of your time doing so (you said they were worth no more than 50pp each).

3) You can keep waiting it out till market prices get to were you want them to be.

[Alyster]

From the outset you have glorified yourself with not needing money and having a tonne of it anyway, so as other people suggested what are you looking for someone to do all the hard work for cheap prices?
Kinda lame imo


Flickering
Coercer of EMarr.

I"m not asking for cheap...I'm asking for a fair price. Try to understand the difference.