Is there a doctor in the house! This tradeskill looks sick!B

[Windfyre]

Better get this tradeskill on life support soon, its going to die.. if it hasnt already!

1 word.. Jewlery

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Im really getting upset over this tradeskill. Yes, i agree anyone with 15k and fast figers can get to GM in under 5 hours, but where the hell are all the new combines?

So Planes of Power comes.. and introduces some seriously nice combines. But that died very quickly. Its almost useles to combine Gallentry Rings because they sell for 9-10k each on my server and the liquids are still 7k. One failer and your in the hole.

You know something.. I made more money on Prismatic Dye in one day then I did in months with jewlery.

I think we need 250 skill, cheap combines that we can sell at high prices... so all our suffering would be paid for

[Carmaris]

I think we need 250 skill, cheap combines that we can sell at high prices... so all our suffering would be paid for

Yeah, we'd all love that for our chosen tradeskills too.

[Yalum]

Re: Is there a doctor in the house! This tradeskill looks si

So Planes of Power comes.. and introduces some seriously nice combines. But that died very quickly. Its almost useles to combine Gallentry Rings because they sell for 9-10k each on my server and the liquids are still 7k. One failer and your in the hole.

For a recipe with a 95% success rate using materials from a heavily hunted zone like Valor, this was inevitable. To make money off jewelcraft you're going to either to have to get in before the market gluts (bloodmetal earrings are still pretty pricey on my server) or find a market that's being ignored (champagne magnums or gem studded chains, perhaps).

[Moonlilly]

Once they drop the sellback rate (to merchants) on combines while skilling up I'll start feeling sympathy.

[Moraganth]

.... i agree anyone with 15k and fast figers can get to GM in under 5 hours...

....so all our suffering would be paid for ....

what suffering?

[Unmei]

Glittering Rings of Judgement are still 20k on my server. Electrified earrings of tempest are like 12k. Rings of Gallantry are around 10.

Are any of these profitable if you buy the components at the abusive prices people charge? No. If people would stop buying the darn metallic liquids at 7k, people would stop trying to sell them for that.

Are any of the above items profitable if you farm the components or get them from friends? HUGELY.

I don't see any problems here.

[Railina]

anyone with 15k and fast figers can get to GM in under 5 hours, but where the hell are all the new combines?

Well, you see, anyone with 15k and 5 hours can get jewelcraft to 250. So when a new recipe comes along that looks profitable, 300 new people take 5 hours and learn jewelcraft. Not only do you have to compete with the 15000 people who GMed JC before, you add 300 more fore each new recipe and. . . well basically, if you find someone who *isn't* a 250 jeweler, yuou can count on them being good friends with at least 3.

No number of new recipes will make this better, until the skillup path gets harder, the "Next Big Thing" will die faster than The Last Big Thing did.

[Faymar]

Agreed re the earrings and rings above ... the ring drops are in a tier one zone as well (although you'll be spending quite some time there) and I've had some luck with the earrings watching bazaar prices like a hawk and shouting for windstones in BoT.

[Lilosh]

Great, Sony will introduce new rings, that make the ones from PoP looks like poop.

They will sell for decent money.

And then the same people will ruin it, and 3 weeks from now, You'll be back to square one.



-Lilosh

[OberonMiM]

Jewelcraft USED to be the only profitable tradeskill for the longest time

[wyrmbane_]

I guess it depends

As another mentioned, it depends on how you work Jewelcraft.

If you Buy your Droppd supplies to make items and resell them, your profit margins are going to be lower.

If you hunt where the items drop, and then make the jewelry, you can have amazing profits. Kind of depends where you want to be in the market.

Granted, not everyone can go into the Plane of valor, or you could be unlucky and never win any of the metallic liquid drops. It is a problem of the Hunting Jewelcrafter versus the merchant supplied jewelcrafter.

The main problem is the people selling Metallic liquid for 7k have been doing so when the prices were 20k for the ring. Enough people now get drops and make the rings for almost no cost that dropping the price to 10k is just pure profit.

Eventually the price will drop on the supplies. Once it does, you will see a slight drop in the ring price, but it will hold. that is when you will be able to capitalize once again.

Smithing has a similar problem with Hurricane armor. The drops of pure rain are insanely rare. The price is 2k-4k per. So, a simple tunic runs 10kpp with no failure to make. That is very expensive for something that barely competes with a Tae Ew Tunic. It has more restrictions, is slightly worse in general, and costs 500 times per attempt than the Tae Ew.

Jewelcrafting is viable, still have good use. The biggest problem isn't the component prices or availability, but rather that there are SO many 250 jewelcrafters per server, nearly everyone knows someone that can do their combines.

wyrmbane

[Cigarskunk]

Re: Is there a doctor in the house! This tradeskill looks si

So Planes of Power comes.. and introduces some seriously nice combines. But that died very quickly. Its almost useles to combine Gallentry Rings because they sell for 9-10k each on my server and the liquids are still 7k. One failer and your in the hole.

Pah - all of the PoP recipes are whacked.

Hobgoblin surprise is down to 100pp each in the bazaar on Xev - guess what the meat sells for - 100-200 plat each.

Hero parts are going for the same amount that one could actually sell more than one sandwich a month for.

Justice fruit, when available, runs more than the pies themselves.

PoP bow materials - don't make me laugh - one can make more plat selling the seperate components then the finished bows themselves.

sigh

[Bennan]

Prices for components will adjust themselves, it will not be overnight but it will happen.

Start selling the components yourself at 1k lower, that will start the landslide.

And as someone said before, introducing new recipies will basically just repeat the same pattern as the recipies from POP.

[Eumerin]

Re: Is there a doctor in the house! This tradeskill looks si

So Planes of Power comes.. and introduces some seriously nice combines. But that died very quickly. Its almost useles to combine Gallentry Rings because they sell for 9-10k each on my server and the liquids are still 7k. One failer and your in the hole.

Pah - all of the PoP recipes are whacked.

Hobgoblin surprise is down to 100pp each in the bazaar on Xev - guess what the meat sells for - 100-200 plat each.

Hero parts are going for the same amount that one could actually sell more than one sandwich a month for.

Justice fruit, when available, runs more than the pies themselves.

PoP bow materials - don't make me laugh - one can make more plat selling the seperate components then the finished bows themselves.

sigh

What gets me is the one PoP item I'd actually like - the Planar Blood Brew that I need for the Beginner Combat Manual - is nearly never for sale. And the one time I've seen it listed, it was selling for 1200 plat.
Of course, it also requires a no drop component from a tier 1 plane. Wonder if there's a connection.

[Railina]

Actually, the reason is that it used both Bubonian Blood (imbue disease) and Nightmare Mephit Blood (imbue nightmare *and* nightmare temper) particularly since the Mephits in Nightmare are in a particularly assinine location. Adding thwe NO DROP Sargilurgh blood to the mix is like a cherry on top of 2 heaping scoops of BS.