Cultural Nerfage? (unsubstantiated rumour)

[hiyawathadan]

Are the rumors true, developers are now thinking that the new cultural armor and symbols are overpowered and can expect a nerf soon?

[KyrosKrane]

To the best of my knowledge, no (though obviously I'm not a dev and can't speak for them). The so-called rumor was the result of some self-centered raider types who realized their old raid armor would suddenly be obsoleted by the new tradeskill armors, which completely ignores the fact that raid-level upgrades drop for the tradeskilled armors in all content from DoDH and up, and that equivalent SoF armors are still better than the TS stuff at both group and raid levels.

The devs were very much aware of the power of these armors when they made them. I'm hopeful that they won't change them at all.

[Nolrog]

Are the rumors true, developers are now thinking that the new cultural armor and symbols are overpowered and can expect a nerf soon?

Source???

[Diani]

Source???

The neighbor of the sister of someone who knew someone that once dated a dev?

[Veril]

No, they are not true

[hiyawathadan]

Source was on my own guilds boards, one of our officers was told by somebody who is apparently reliable. However, no names, and yeah, I suppose it is 3rd hand info at this point right?

I won't worry about it.

[Aldier]

...someone that once dated a dev...

Someone once dated a dev?

[WolandEQ]

Someone once dated a dev?

lol.. They aren't no more since poor guys and gals work 80-90 hour weeks over every expansion release... 14 expansions -- some of them may rack up to 14 divorces/break ups...

Wonder if my hypothesis is about as real as rumour about cultural nerfage?

[Nolrog]

The neighbor of the sister of someone who knew someone that once dated a dev?

Which Dev?

[Konjure]

I really doubt and seriously hope they do not nerf it.

I know the vocal raiders (and those who are, are usually extremely vocal in every place they can find an audience) have been upset and screaming/whining like mad. (Fun taunting them about in /gu though. )

But as a high-end raider myself (if raiding 5 days/weeks for the last years including killing "Two Gods" in Solteris qualifies me as one) I must say it was very much needed the Tradeskill and Group gear a decent boost!

Now, do the same to melee weapons, in the end of the day it's all about dps (mob HP reduced to 0 before yours) and the difference in that area is still way too big!

[Diani]

Which Dev?

Not realy known...for al we know it was some correspondent pretending to be a Dev just to get some hot steaming action

[Nolrog]

Not realy known...for al we know it was some correspondent pretending to be a Dev just to get some hot steaming action

It's not working.

[Ngreth Thergn]

I will say that we are going to evaluate it.

I do not believe the SYMBOLS will be adjusted... if anything, some of the power from the symbol may move to the armor... but the total of armor + symbol should be the same.

But in the end I think those will be left alone.

What is more likely to get some adjustment is the TSS and TBS seals. The SoF seal is at the target we like, so probably staying as is.

[Zacatac]

If anything, some of the power from the symbol may move to the armor... but the total of armor + symbol should be the same.

That might actually be a good idea, then people can't go "OMG, it's a 315 HP/Mana symbol !!!"

Bump 50hp/mana off the symbols and put it on the gear.

[Ratblaster]

I will say that we are going to evaluate it.

I do not believe the SYMBOLS will be adjusted... if anything, some of the power from the symbol may move to the armor... but the total of armor + symbol should be the same.

But in the end I think those will be left alone.

What is more likely to get some adjustment is the TSS and TBS seals. The SoF seal is at the target we like, so probably staying as is.

Given a choice between nerfing the cultural armor/augs or moving stats from augs to elegant armor, I think most would choose the latter option.

I know that elegant armor right now is selling cheaper than sublime augs (despite usign same ingredients) because there is more demand for upgrade to the type 11 Sublime (250 hp gain over prior DON top aug) vs a 30 ac 40 hp/mana gain on the armor. The peopel jumping onto elegant first are the tanks who want the ac upgrade.

Shifting some hp from the aug to armor may make the armor more attractive...and more peopel can make the armor vs the augs since anyone previously making DoN armor can already make the new Elegant armor without any new questing involved. But I would hope that the shift does not go overboard (i.e. no more than 50-75 hp shifted from exalted/sublime to elegant.

I am puzzled by the last statement in Ngreths update, about the TSS and TBS seals needing adjustment. From the stats I have seen, the Serpent seal is only 50 hp/mana more than the Last Blood seal, plus adds lvl 75 focus, so I would hope that there are no plans to decrease it's stats.

Aside from that, the new Serpent seal in TSS seams too rare. We have done 2 full clears of AG east/west/north (except for Lethar 2.0 which seems bugged) since SoF was released and have yet to see a single serpent seal drop... In Demi, it seemed about a 50/50 shot whether a last blood would drop on each of the 8 main T1/T2 named, but so far in TSS post-SoF, we're averaging 0%. Even if they are only supposed to drop in AG-North, we're still 0 for 6.