When tailors attack... ugh..

[Kirstin Thornhill]

/ignore servername.charactername

will block cross server tells

[Nimphe Wildwood]

GM also stands for GrandMaster. =)

I don't think this was an actual GM. I think the point is he was a GM Tailor.

yub I know Traska. But now that you mention it, please forgive me as I thought it was a Game Master who was also a GM in Tailoring. ops:

Still that fact that he is an inconsiderate human being. Sorry can't say much for the wife either.

[Iannyen]

..keep in mind she has to put up with his dumb *self*. Not that she is any brighter for it, but can you really blame a jerk for hanging around with an idiot?

Out of curiosity, did you offer to let her bring the pelts and patterns to you?

[Moraganth]

I'd say the rudest part is.. if he's sitting right next to his wife, knowing she needs backpacks.. and he didn't log his "gm tailor" on to make them for her.

sorry, call me old fashion, but he sounds like a putz to me.

Just remember when dealing with other people, Cylestria.. common sense, isn't. /comfort

[Ilona]

/agree Moraganth
If my bf needed something tailored he couldn't make for himself, I will log on my tailor for it. Same for many of my friends.

The cross-server tells were un-called-for. To be quite honest though, my initial reply would have been "sorry, I'm in zone x, you can look me up another time or bring the items here" - works especially well if you're somewhere they can't get to :twisted:

[kiztent]

I found your response a bit high handed, but hardly worth getting upset over. My normal response is "oh, sorry, can't help with that". If pressed I'd have to come up with some explanation of why I can't help, but I've never really been questioned.

Something like, "sorry, working on some trades now, come to baz if you need them" would also work. It's also unverifiable, if that sort of thing concerns you (unlike saying "I don't have PoP" which would also work).

The response was a bit excessive though. Especially if he has a GM tailor himself. I'd be willing to bet my wife would make me log whatever character she needed for mana vials or other combines - or even to do smithing when she got bored ("there's 5 stacks of padding on my character, tell me how many skill ups you get").

[Wyrdlan]

For starters I'd say you both overreacted greatly.

I think that is a common problem in EverQuest, possibly because EQ society places such an emphasis on reputation, possibly because the relative social maturity of those who play, maybe because of society in general. While I'm generally not a fan of valley girls, they did give the world something very valuable: A socially acceptable way to say, "Whatever" and walk away.

Tis better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[Gillin Whisperfoot]

I'd say the rudest part is.. if he's sitting right next to his wife, knowing she needs backpacks.. and he didn't log his "gm tailor" on to make them for her.

sorry, call me old fashion, but he sounds like a putz to me.

Have to agree with you here Moraganth... I'm not a GM Tailor (yet), but I'm close. And if my girlfriend or any of my other friends needs help with any combines I am more than happy to log on at need. Especially for my girlfriend.

And as far as the original poster goes, I would agree with Chenier that I also found your initial response a little curt. BUT, I think that your initial response was quite legitimate and in NO WAY should have brought on this other yo-yo poking his nose in.

If I had even responded to the first announcement that someone needed a tailor (biiiiiig if right there ;-) after hearing what she was looking for I would've said something like, "Well, I'm in the bazaar, if you bring the stuff I need to combine it down here I'll do it for you... otherwise I wish you the best of luck. "

Just my 2 cp.

[xaanru]

Can't stand it when people whine, because you don't want to drop your gameplay to go do something trivial for them, for an amount that's insignificant.

My bazaar trader is a lvl 52 druid, and since I sell a lot of tradeskill made stuff, and as well, as doing some buy low/sell high trading of other items, I have a significant sum of money in the bank.

It amazed me when people get angry, when I tell them I am not porting, and then they blow their lids when I tell them the 10pp they just offered me didn't change my mind.

Admittedly, in the case of the backpack lady, I would have told her to bring the stuff to the bazaar, rather than turned her down right off. I certainly would not have left the zone for that, but I will drop trader to help someone out. In fact, I even made a guy a full set of cured silk recently, because I felt bad for him, after seeing him auction for someone to help, for several hours, without success.

However, I can see where the request for you to come the her, for something that trivial, would be annoying.

[joatmoneq]

Manual Ignore

I would personally like to inform everyone about a wonderful feature in EQ called "Manual Ignore". This wonderful system has no limited number of people that you can put on the "list". It has proven to reduce the number of harrassing /tell sending people by about 75% after about 2 or 3 attempts. Most people will give up a couple attempts after that. In the rare 1% of cases, though it will result in increased obceneites and spam. At that point however, the /report and /petition features pick up.

So how do you use this Manual Ignore? Just don't answer back. Just stop reading what they send you. Does it work? I currently have no one on my /ignore list and it is happily staying that way. The vast majority of annoying people give up after a couple failed attempts of provoking a response. Besides on Tal Zek, the REALLY anoying ones, you can hunt down and kill later on. (If they made themselves memorable).

If my bf needed something tailored he couldn't make for himself, I will log on my tailor for it. Same for many of my friends.

Um, not to defend the guy... but the reason he didn't log his Tailor in to make the backpacks is that his Tailor is on a completely different server.

Just thought I'd clear that part up, I agree with the ignore not being a command thought though.

[Moraganth]

[Sun Jan 19 19:44:38 2003] rallos.Mr-GM-Man told you, 'logging on my tailor to make "wifey" some backpacks.'

He was playing on a different server, his tailor was on the same server.. at least that's how i read it.

[Axterix EnObelix]

I doubt his gal keeps him informed of every single little thing she does. And that she remembers he has a tailor on that server. It's just ordinary, run of the mill stuff, wanting to buy a backpack...something a low level character would do, someone that probably wasn't playing a year ago.

You were rude about it, insulting the value of her patronage, saying that her business wasn't worth your time. And someone chewed you out over it. Deal with it, move on.

It's fine that her business wasn't worth your time. I have the same sort of thing. A lot of things I'm not going to go out of my way to make or sell. But if people ask, if it's a common item, I either tell them I can't do it, send them to another tinkerer, I tell them what they need to bring to me (and where), or I tell them I don't stock that. But I don't tell them that their business isn't worth my notice.

[finnlander]

Cyl, I ended up porting to PoK to make that lady's backpacks for 50pp. =)
I sent her a tell but you beat me to it because she sent an immediate reply saying "found one, thanks". Moments later, she said the first tailor "backed out". I kinda figured it was you who beat me to the punch since you were auctioning something at the time. Oh well, I was farming velium at the time anyway. What I've thought about doing to avoid these somewhat petty jobs is asking what they need made before advertising credentials. That way if it's something not worth your time you can just say you're not quite good enough to make the item.

Finnlander
7th Hammer