Arrrgggh

[munwin]

What was the Halfling GM book to easy? Did we really need new Statue spawns in the safe corner of the first floor of the temple so we cant pull the drake PH there and kill them instead of clearing the whole room? Its not like the a_Stillmoon_Stone_Casters were a rare spawn or anything to begin with.

MUCH HATE!

Munwin (day 5 of camping and 9/10 a_Stillmoon_Stone_Caster down)

[Ngreth Thergn]

Changes to DoN missions had nothing to do with Tradeskills... (had no part in it, so don't even know what changed, though I heard some changes may have been happening)

[munwin]

Not an instanced zone, regular old Stillmoon. Has anyone gotten a_Stillmoon_Stone_Caster to spawn since the patches? 2 more days of clearing the rooms and not one seen. Been there pretty much from 8am-7pm clearing both rooms.

Munwin

[Aleksandros]

Halflings can collect pieces for their Grandmaster Pattern Book quest *outside* of the Instanced zones? Everyone else has to enter an instanced version of the zone (Lavaspinner's Lair for High Elves, in my case...) with a group to collect their bits. Maybe you're mistaken?

[Tokkyl]

Ouch - sorry to hear your pain. Understand completely.

And yes, for halflings the last part is to kill 10 of a VERY RARE spawn mob in the normal stillmoon. There are only 2 knows PH's on 20 minute spawn cycles, and a possibility of somewhere around 12+ different drakes that can spawn instead. I wish they would of put them in missions, I probably would of finished a heck of a lot sooner!

It took me over 4 weeks of camping to get my 10 kills, and all of them were on the first floor room. Never got a single spawn on the second floor.

This was also many moons ago and you would have to literally drag me yelling and screaming the whole time to spend another minute in that zone now after completing this quest.

Good luck on your final kill Munwin

[Elyssanda]

I have seen the *a Stillmoon stone caster* while doing one of the instanced versions...please... I'm sorry I don't know which one, it wasn't Creator, nor statue plans.. it was a long one.. where you wind all around inside the temple. I know I saw it, because the halfling in our group begged us to please kill it even though it was out of our way and not part of what we were doing, but I had said it was on my track when he asked me.

[Ilona]

The "kill x of y" can be done in either instanced or normal zones.
The "loot w of z" can only be done in instances.

Usually you need to kill at least x to get enough w to drop in instances, so it doesn't matter that kills outside instances count.

[Winenose]

The thing is that some mobs are of higher level. Each spawn point has a mob list and level range as I understand it. I'll try to make an example:

a stillmoon drake is lvl 50-60
a stillmoon drake 2 is lvl 50-60
a stillmoon drake 3 is lvl 50-60
a stillmoon stone caster is lvl 56-65

Now, the spawn point list of possible spawns includes all three and also lists that only lvl 50 to 60 mobs can spawn at that point.

So when a spawn is about to happen, first the mob level is set. 50% it happens in level range 50-55 and 50% chance it happens to be levels 56-60.
In first case possible mob list gets narrowd down to only the mobs that can actually be level 50-55, thus completely eliminating 'a stillmoon stone caster' as a possibilty for this spawn. In second case all 4 mobs have equal chance to spawn.

So, in conclusion, while all drakes can spawn, some can be relatively rare.

In case of Munwin, it might be best if you take a higher level group and get a mission to Stillmoon. All the drake spawn points there will be of higher level range and thus give you much greater chance to see a stone caster spawn.

Ah, now I remembered where I got my theory about level range and mob list for spawns - Crushbone. Many places there can have a pawn or centurion, but the deeper in you go, the less are the chances that a pawn will be there. Comes from pawn being level 4-6, centurion 6-10 and spawn point being level 6-10. I made up the numbers, but gives you an idea