Bazaar pricing silliness

[Ixiola]

Arggh...what is it with the price of goblin bones these days? (The kind that drops from EC LDoN missions). Yes, I know they are used for smithing tempers and yes, they drop pretty plentifully compared to the equivalent tempers from the other camps.

But the prices on the bones are running 3X the going rate of all other temper components -- on the order of 200 - 300 per bone! As much as I'm doing a push to get my smithing at least to the 212ish range so I can have a decent chance on the subcombines needed for my tinkered plate armor, I refuse to pay that much.

Am I missing something? Are these used for something else besides smithing now? Or are people just pricing them high because they think goblin bones are sexy?

[Flehmen]

G'day,

My thoughts about this trend (Goblin bones for 100- 500 pp) on the Seventh Hammer is that the only goblin bones available are on those traders who put a high price on every TS item then just let it rot on their mule 'til someone gets desperate.....

Try buying tempers directly. I've been pretty lucky and have scored about 100 in the last week for 25 pp or less each...I figure people who know what they are for will just do the combine if they can and sell the finished product.

Ouch... 2500 pp... Geez, remember when that used to actually mean something?? So far it has given me about 8 skill ups... so 312 pp a point. The RNG has only been bad to me once in this latest stretch.

Take care.

[Silverfish]

Thoughts on Goblin Bones

Well, sandblasted tempers went for much more than the other tempers for a while because sandblasted steel greaves tribute for 898 points a set. It's possible that someone found a comparable recipe for calcified gear, and that'll drive up the price.

Just a thought.

Silverfish

[Maevenniia]

They are probably confusing them with the Goblin Bones (same name but no tradeskill use) that drop in DoN (NPC merchants sell them for ~26pp, whereas teh LDoN ones used in temper sell for ~10pp).

Then, like always happens, they are overpricing them just because they are drops from the newest expansion.

Silly, but thats how some peoples' minds work.

[Phantron]

I wish they'd use the fee system from WoW, something like to list an item you got to pay say 1/1000th of what you're selling it for to list it per real life day. It's really annoying to see stuff like Pile of Gravel for 5000pp knowing that it's never going to sell (at least I think it's never going to sell) and it's not doing anyone any good besides just sitting there and rot. If there's an upkeep fee to keep items on Bazaar people might actually be motivated to drop the price down to a level where they can sell it as opposed to never selling it and paying the upkeep cost every day.

[Wyvernwill]

I still stand by my beliefs that the tradeskill tag on items is one of the worst additions to the game, ever!

To give you an idea, I was on Thundercrest DoN Mission. One member of my group looted a Metallic Drake Scale and when I asked the group if I could have it or roll on it, the ML stated that it was just a crap drop that sells well to vendors. Later I saw his trader in bazaar selling it for 75k and questioned him if he even knew what it was for and his only reply was "No, but I check the bazaar price of everything before selling to merchants, especially tradeskill flagged stuff."

The thing that really gets me is seeing Pile of Gravel anywhere from 2500-5k when at best you MIGHT be able to sell the armor for 1-5k depending on pieces. Or shissar scales breaking 1000pp. It really just annoys me how much people rip off tradeskillers then bitch when they get charged 10-50k for a combine. I guess what goes around comes around :P

[Grenoble]

Another thing to bear in mind, however, is that goblin bones may not be that common anymore. At least on Emarr, LDoNs are pretty empty.

[Aryse Andenter]

Well, sandblasted tempers went for much more than the other tempers for a while because sandblasted steel greaves tribute for 898 points a set. It's possible that someone found a comparable recipe for calcified gear, and that'll drive up the price.

Just a thought.

Silverfish

I did a spreadsheet of tribute values for each temper and each size of the LDoN smithing pieces back when I skilled up on them. There are quite a few discrepancies, but 437 is the highest tribute value for any calcified piece. I doubt any tribute values have changed on those since then (my totally unscientific method of a few random checks didn't pick up any differences). It is remarkable how different the tribute values for each size and temper and each slot are.

I don't have anywhere to host it but I can email the spreadsheet to anyone who wants to know the best LDoN route by tribute value for the ingredients they have: aryseandenter@hotmail.com

[Dutchy]

On my server they usually go for about 100pp each, if you have DoN and you can leave a char on while youre not playing, go into buyer mode to catch goblin bones at a price you would like. I use it for a lot of tradeskill components myself and am very happy with the amounts sold to me so far at prices I want to pay.

If you still do LDoN's yourself, let the ML know youd like m, many people still vendorjunk those bones. I normally offered a compensation of either a few pieces of finished gear or a plat compensation to be added to the split at the end.

And wyvernwill,..... ouch! =( everything that usable should always be open to get rolled upon, the excuse of it being vendorjunk is probably the worst I've ever heard. I never had anyone tell me I couldn't roll on a TS item, if it ever happened to me in a group and I wouldn't be allowed to roll or compensate for an item I needed (specially such a valuable item the entire group should be allowed to roll on) I'd probably leave m and make sure not to ever group with those people again. sounds like your ML knew well enough it was valuable if he saved that "nice vendorjunk" he didn't allow people to roll on to fill his own pockets.

Shissar scale wise.. Drinal is currently running 4-9K a piece in the bazaar I'm gonna be farming my own hehe, not much of a market left to make back the production costs with Master BPs going for 200pp currently

[Cyrint Aircaller]

To give you an idea, I was on Thundercrest DoN Mission. One member of my group looted a Metallic Drake Scale and when I asked the group if I could have it or roll on it, the ML stated that it was just a crap drop that sells well to vendors. Later I saw his trader in bazaar selling it for 75k and questioned him if he even knew what it was for and his only reply was "No, but I check the bazaar price of everything before selling to merchants, especially tradeskill flagged stuff."

You could tell the group that the item is worth 20k+ in bazar and i doubt any1 would say no to roll on it.

[Eoghnved]

Goblin bones? In the Bazaar? Wow, there are never any LDoN temper components for sale on my server. I have to try to get lucky vendor mining.

[Ixiola]

Despite needing the scales and glossy hides myself for some (hopefully soon!) GM DoN armor combines, when those drop I make an open roll on them for everyone, tradeskiller or no. They are worth too much to do otherwise. (I'm usually the ML for my groups). So I agree with you, what that other person did was criminal.

Yup, I am doing the DoN buyer thing. So I've got my bazaar mule up at all times, and I have a buyer set up from my main account when not playing, so I have managed to get a fair number of LDoN temper components that way.

I was just grousing about the stupidity of it all. When all other LDoN temper components BUT goblin bones are in the 50 - 100p range, 200+ each per bone makes me cry. And they still DO drop. I'm still working on LDoN charm upgrades, so do LDoNs occasionally. And we had one the other day with 15 bones drop in one addy.

I suspect that you're right, people are confusing them with the other goblin bones, and pricing them high because they don't know the difference. Well, they can sit and rot at those prices.

[Phantron]

Pile of Gravel tend to be priced around 2k to much, much higher. For that price you can just buy a single combine of infernal scepter instead (or more than 1). Master armor, at least plate, isn't really competitive with magnetic armor due to the rarity of master augs (expert aug + master < magnetic, GM aug + master = waste).

It's one thing people put all kinds of crazy prices to rip people off but I think people could at least price stuff under what inferno scepters go for. Speaking of which, a 2kish storebought combine for tailoring wouldn't be a bad idea and would put an end to the 4K per shissar scale silliness.

[Eggszecutor]

The components for LDoN smithing on Quellious are insanely priced too. I just set up a buyer and asked 10pp for the foraged items and 15pp for the tempered items. I got enough temper this way to go from 188 to 200 skill.

[Flehmen]

The components for LDoN smithing on Quellious are insanely priced too. I just set up a buyer and asked 10pp for the foraged items and 15pp for the tempered items. I got enough temper this way to go from 188 to 200 skill.

I've done the same on the Seventh and maybe got 4 goblin bones out of the whole deal. BUT someone was selling 'em in the baz at less than I was buying one day and I got almost 160 bone tempers. Unfortuantely, due to capped strength my skill-ups were at about 1:17 so I'm still under 200. :/ Got my buyer back up and I'm hoping.