Flabbergasted by Bazaar prices

[Serenya]

Picnics have sold for 20pp each on Tribunal for as long as I can remember. Someone has them out there for 15 now, but the day after the UI went live I sold 25 stacks to a single person at 20 each, so that's apparently still a valid price for now. Of course, I've been selling CEs at 7pp each for over a year now, and for the past week they've been flying off my vendor at that price as fast as I can put them out. The only ones still out there are at 10pp.

[Zacatac]

When I was doing solstice robes and cutting sickles to skill up, I was often making 100 CE's a day. It was very time consuming.

I often bought CE's just to save myself the time and effort of doing an extra 100 combines. But if they are going to charge way too much, I'd probably go back to making my own.

Current prices on my server-

Celestial essense - 5pp each
MST's - 8pp
Leather padding is the one that really gets me, 30-50pp each.
Silk swatches 30-40pp
Silk threads 17-30pp

[Draggar]

I agree with the general consenus, if their stock didn't sell, they'd lower their price.

If you're in a guild, ask a rogue in the guild if he'll do the combines for you, pay him 75PP per stack if you buy the ingredients, or 100pp-125PP if he buys them.

(The reason I say rogue is because I've noticed the new UI for the M&P doesn't open up for the non-rogue classes, so he'll just have 2 clicks per combine instead of 2 CTRL-click and 4 clicks).

I agree, most of the prices in the bazaar are ridiculious (sp?). Vials of Vicious mana at 50PP each? Magic clay at an insane 50PP each? Sorry, I'll keep my prices at a (respective) 10-12PP and 3-5PP each. Each one still has a nice profit margin, and I will at any time (that I'm free) make them for guildies and friends at cost.

[Draggar]

Originally posted by Zacatac
When I was doing solstice robes and cutting sickles to skill up, I was often making 100 CE's a day. It was very time consuming.

I often bought CE's just to save myself the time and effort of doing an extra 100 combines. But if they are going to charge way too much, I'd probably go back to making my own.

Current prices on my server-

Celestial essense - 5pp each
MST's - 8pp
Leather padding is the one that really gets me, 30-50pp each.
Silk swatches 30-40pp
Silk threads 17-30pp

Silk and leather padding are *always* insane. The new Nerdia's landing (I think that's the zone's name, port in from any LDoN camp), bears and wolves drop quality pelts about 50% of the time, but I wouldn't recommend it if you're below level 50 (cats do, too, but I think Stonebrunt is better for cat pelts). Prices haven't dropped yet.

Silk swatches on mine are 10PP each now (not bad), and no leather paddings, bt I've seen them as high as 50. (Maybe I should sell my 4 stacks in the bank?).

[eqNichola]

Originally posted by Dunthor Warsmith
heh, CVTs often sold for pretty ungodly prices before the vendor was ever taken out - 50-75pp, often. Some people didn't even know they *could* be vendor bought.

If I just need 1 or 2, I will easily pay that kind of money in bazaar rather than trudge all the way to Thurgadin and back. After all, I can always include that excess in the price of whatever I am making with the CVT. Of course, if I want stacks and stacks I will go and see Nimren.

[xaanru]

The reason they went up, is very simple.

Supply and demand.

Ok, you say, the TS interface makes them faster, so supply should be higher. Perhaps, but the TS interface also makes Sickles, robes, BD cultural, and all the other recipes that REQUIRE these, easier to make. SO yes, supply MIGHT go up a bit, but I suspect DEMAND has gone up more, as many people who never did the prayer shawl, or aid grimel (depending on level of player) suddenly decided that with precombined subcomponents, and the new UI, its worth doing tradeskills.

For a lot of these folks, the time associated with the combines was more of a hinderance than the price of CEs even at 25pp each.

[Verdandi]

I'm inclined to wonder if there are a lot more people making stuff to sell that didn't bother before, and that aren't bothering to really price check before putting their own stuff up.

There are also some people who just don't pay attention to the prices on the stuff they're selling. Back when blue diamonds were ~2k each there was someone who put a handful of them up at 2.5k. Six months later the going rate was ~400pp and that same handful was still sitting there at 2.5k. If it's an item that sells in large volume, like CE, I can see how having just one or two people with ridiculous prices would skew the thinking of other sellers.

If my theory is correct, prices should settle down eventually as even the slowpokes get around to checking, quit playing, etc.

[Reflan]

I would commission runs of CE's from lower levels who loved the money in runs of 500 and more.

In tailoring and smithing you can go through huge amounts of them very quickly when trying to skill up. Some recipes require you to use several per combine.

Why not make them all yourself? Well, some people have more money than time, and vice versa. Most people don't have the physical stamina to do thousands of CE combines in any reasonable length of time. For many people, paying a plat or two per over cost per CE and thereby avoiding the running around and massive time sink of making CE's is very economical in terms of money as well as time; they could use that time spent on CE's actually making far more money than they're spending on someone's minor CE profit.

I knew with the new UI, people with tons of money to blow who wouldn't consider doing tradeskills until the new UI took out the horrible time sink of dragging and dropping would leap into the market to buy goods you use to advance tradeskills. The stuff you actually made would be made much more often, but the ingredients you used to make the product in the first place would have their prices go through the roof.

Just for a laugh, a week or so before the new UI I put the last of my sacred tunare silk(for making ceremonial solstice robes, a near worthless item these days for selling), up on my mule overnight for 125pp each. Prices were so outrageous on so many things lately in the bazaar, well, what the heck. Well, not overnight for 125pp really. I put them up on my mule and they sold out before I could get stand up to get out of my chair and hit the bed. Well, I still had ingredients for more that weren't combined into final form...made them into a stack and a half at 150pp to see if it was a fluke. Nope.

I had done the same thing with dyes, which you need for tailoring the LOY robes. I put some up for 50pp. I had a lot, because I always have saved weird forages and anything tradeskill related. They sold out so fast I scoured the EQ world for the items you need to make the dyes, and put them up at 100pp each. I absolutely cannot keep them in stock!

Now they are on bazaar sellers at 200pp each and more.

Some other prices I see lately in the bazaar:

Spider silk 10pp(freak ocurrence) to 30pp each and sometimes more(much more common)
Silk swatches 30 to 68 (!!) plat each
Spiderling silk 10-20pp each
Leather padding 40(rare) to 70pp each and occasionally more
Things you brew to make the LOY dyes for tailoring that I couldn't believe I sold instantly for 100pp each -- up to 500pp!
The dyes themselves -- up to 250pp
Nightmare silk strings(for nightmarewood compound bows) - 2k to 3k each
Innovative bow cams for them -- occasionally as high as 850pp each -- you need two per bow
Finished Nightmarewood bows themselves? 3k

This will all end, inevitably, when enough rich uber-types have used the new tradeskill UI to blaze through tradeskills 10 to 20x faster than every tradeskiller before them and simply don't need to skill up anymore. The bubble could burst easily at any time.

And this stuff doesn't always sell that quickly. For a rich enough guy who has no alternative but your vendor, though, your price eventually seems better than nothing, I guess.

But there is a limited number of people willing to blow unlimited amounts of cash. Once they're used up, prices may stay stuck stubbornly up for a while as people refuse to sell at less than the gargantuan profits they've heard about or experienced. But sooner or later, when you get very few buyers, the prices will have to stabilize at less than a hallucinatory high.

[Sylphan]

Reflan, I don't know what the deal is with the dyes for ribbons. I still find them reasonably available at reasonable prices, but also sometimes 150 plat. That's probably temporary, especially if the forage-bots get interested in that market.

As for the rest, prices have been like that for months now, long before the new combine window. Certain supplies (which I shant list) have started to sell out and get expensive the last two weeks, but all the prices in your list are normal. Berzerker-usable items too. But just wait... if your server starts to run out of padding or silk, you'll see what real price inflation is.

[Reflan]

Padding there's plenty of, but the prices have doubled and sometimes tripled.

Spider silk -- sometimes unavailable. That's why silk swatches have sometimes gotten around 70pp each. Strange when I compare spider silks selling for 3 years for 1pp each to 10 to 20pp for a while before GoD to sometimes over 30pp per silk now. One heck of a differential.

Spiderling silk -- starting to become unavailable in the last week, price doubling to 20pp each.

Dye components -- only available from the occasional newbie forager who will put a single maneater bud up for a plat or six plains roots up for 1 plat each, like his foraged vegetables and other foraged goods. Very hard to find though - a rare find. Between the rare 1pp sale and the 500pp sale for a plains root lies a vast and empty desert.

[Angelsyn]

You want bad?

I saw MTP's on an NPC vendor in a relatively high-traffic area. Just over 3gp each.

I promptly ignored them and went about my business... I'm a snooty eater and only use Hero Sandwiches & Party Platters now.