What in the holy name of heck is this?

[Lilosh]

I have two MAJOR gripes tonight.


1) In POV, I was being the groups Main Healer (WOOT), and from time to time, my group would kill something, and everyone in the group would get exp, EXCEPT ME. They would all get the yellow EXP message, and they could loot. I would get neither. Just "A razorfiend pimpdaddy was killed by Guildmate01". Camping out and back would fix the problem for a few minutes.

2) SINCE WHEN DOES A LEVEL 60 BUFF OVERWRITE A LEVEL 65 ONE? There was a Botted cleric in the group, who was level 59. She was helping me with occasional spot heals, and at one point, the tanks HP buff wore off (Temp or Symbol, I forget). The cleric says "hold on, check this neat new spell!" I was wondering what spells she had gotten at 59, when I see "INC AEGO"(apprently she had just dinged 60 and scribed the spell), and 3 seconds later she casts BoA.

This would have been a great thing, except SHE OVERWROTE MY PROTECTION OF THE NINE BUFF. WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT, OVER. Sorry, I'm almost yelling this words in my mind right now, hence the yelling.

Why did it overwrite the level 65 buff I paid for? Why didnt the cleric ASK first. Why didnt she give me time to disband. AND WHY DIDN'T I KEEP MY POT9?

Next kill, the exp bug comes back, and I decided to log for the night. I'm frazzled. With a bard slowing and mezzing, and the druid Main Healing, my nerves were shot, and killing my Pot9 was the last straw. The exp bug just made me log. I'm done for the night.


Rant is now OFF, thanks for listening,
-Lilosh

[Nhin Impious]

Why didnt the cleric ASK first. Why didnt she give me time to disband.

More to the point, why isn't there a WORD for incompetent idiot clerics?

Or does everyone assume that none of us are fit to pour water out of a mortar and pestle with a peridot stuck to the bottom?

Nhinx "Sit tight, I'm pulling" Aphsion
Evocation specialist, Nuke Cleric of Innoruuk, Death Kiter extraordinaire

[OberonMiM]

you ask why it overwrites

It gives more hp at slot 1. Thats why. Nothing to do with spell level its just a buff that gives more hp so it gives precidence

Ask clerics about AOTZ and BAOTR getting overwritten by shaman focus sometimes. you will get the SAME reaction (seriously)

[Chenier]

I may be wrong (since my memory of the game is fading), but I think aego does overwrite both Pot9 and Bot9...

Wait til you've buffed tons of groups on a raid with group Pot9 and then a cleric MGB'ed aego and then you get tells for Pot9.../sigh

The xp thing - I have no idea...you should have been within the level range to get xp. =P

[Grimina]

Oooo nothing I hate more than getting all the buffing done, and sitting down to med, only to have the shaman focus overwrite BAoTR, stand up to recast and not enough mana. *growl* Unless it's being OOM after a rez, getting just enough mana to put up selfbuff only to have a shaman instantly overwrite it. Or it could be having so many people buffing that I can't figure out WHICH of the danged things won't let my yaulp work so I end up clicking randomly and testing only to discover now the ONLY buffs left are mine and the danged shaman focus which just overwrote my selfbuff. Or barring that, it could be going to click off the danged focus, hitting a lag spike and clicking off symbol instead.

So please, for your cleric's sanity...STOP CASTING FOCUS AND ATK BUFFS ON ME! Thank you and good day =)

[eqNichola]

Since 6th August, the focus line no longer overwrites Blessed Armor of the Risen or Armor of the Zealot.

I see "INC AEGO"(apprently she had just dinged 60 and scribed the spell), and 3 seconds later she casts BoA.

It takes 24 (count 'em) seconds to cast, unfocused. Now you are forewarned about the effect you will have time to react

Wait til you've buffed tons of groups on a raid with group Pot9 and then a cleric MGB'ed aego and then you get tells for Pot9.../sigh

A *raid* should be well organised enough to either a) agree on 9+kazad for all or b) do aego/virt first, give people a chance to click it off, then do 9 and kazad.

[Lilosh]

Nichola: She didn't announce it 24 seconds ahead.

Probably started casting waited, waited, and toward sthe end let us know.


-Lilosh

[Nhin Impious]

Probably started casting waited, waited, and toward sthe end let us know.

I've been known to do that...start the cast, and then the social...

by sheer coincidence, it takes exactly as much time to cast a rez as it does to hit R(eply) and type INC REZ, watch that last step, it's a doozy!

But then, I usually tell people I'm casting well in advance...they're all antsy about it, and stuff. "CHing %T at 50%, please try not to die before you hit 50% ok?"

Nhinx Aphsion, very cranky cleric of Innoruuk

[Suva]

I've had that happen to me before. Somewhat annoying to have to re-do all the potn's for people.

More annoying is to have your group all set, BotN, symbol, WoG, etc all done, and some person outside the group decides to be nice and cast aego/virtue on your group. So what they intended as a nice gesture, just cost you more time.

[Eileah]

What I really dont' understand is how TEMPERANCE can overwrite my Pot9!!!

OMG, I can't tell you how often I have logged on my Druid to buff my Chanter and then have some Cleric hit me with Temperance, without warning, without asking if I even want it.

I don't care how long the cast time is, I don't care if a Cleric thinks that all they have to do is give warning, ask first if a buff is needed or wanted, it's common courtesy and I practice it with my Cleric at all times because I know how annoying it is to have your preferred buffs overwritten.

Eileah Deltorros
BB Port Ho (ret)

[OberonMiM]

actually the shaman high level focus will still overwrite baotr and aotz. Its just that their sub 60 one will no longer overwrite aotz or baotr.


But seriously i think clerics deserve a better right to complain (remembers when the time spirit of the wood would prevent divine barrier from taken hold). I sooo felt like nuking the druid for that after i rezzed myself

But seriously druids complain to us that they want their "own" buff then complain when we dont wanna give them symbol. Then dont seem to understand that virtue line lasts ALOT longer which in the end saves us time.

People will complain when a chanter overwrites their C3 with VOQ (cause c3 lasts alot longer).

As far as raids. Even when/if we decide to virtue for everyone (to avoid rebuffing all the time) there will still be some druid that asks for symbol constantly which annoys the @#$# out of me just cause they canceled my virtue and put up their own little buff and expects me to waste more mana on them

Remember it goes both ways

[borblefoot furtoe]

"But seriously druids complain to us that they want their "own" buff then complain when we dont wanna give them symbol. Then dont seem to understand that virtue line lasts ALOT longer which in the end saves us time."

We don't wan't P9/b9 for the HP it gives we want it for the 6 mana/ per tic it gives. The HP means didly squat to us casters. So every time Virtue overwrites my P9 I get seriously pissed as there just went 6 mana/ tic. The only time P9/B9 is used for HP is when used in conjunction with symbol of K(cant spell the spell name. My apologies) which does give more hp than just virtue alone.

And in a raid situation with tells for buffing and grouping its easy to miss and MGB call.


Borblefoot Furtoe
Stormwarden
ancient Darkness
Firiona Vie Server

[Lilosh]

Originally posted by OberonMiM
As far as raids. Even when/if we decide to virtue for everyone (to avoid rebuffing all the time) there will still be some druid that asks for symbol constantly which annoys the @#$# out of me just cause they canceled my virtue and put up their own little buff and expects me to waste more mana on them

Remember it goes both ways

Borble is right. Pot9/PotG = Mana Regen.

Smart clerics ask me for PotC, and Symbol themselves.
Stubborn Clerics insist on Virtue/Aego instead.


-Lilosh

[Lothay]

Hrm...

This is one of those cases where "I (the ranter) am always right." Which buffs you use are entirely your own preference. Labeling anyone as "smart" just means "they do it my way."

Doesn't mean any particular set of buffs is "better" than the other. Each one has situational uses, so leave it at that before someone starts with the name-calling.

[eqNichola]

Originally posted by OberonMiM
actually the shaman high level focus will still overwrite baotr and aotz. Its just that their sub 60 one will no longer overwrite aotz or baotr.

No. I said before

Since 6th August, the focus line no longer overwrites Blessed Armor of the Risen or Armor of the Zealot.

and I stand by that. In fact, today's patch message mentions this change.