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    A New Way to get the Phylactery

    Heya, folks.

    I asked Sil to post this for me since I don't have access to EQTraders for some reason. My ISP is goofing up bad.

    Well, folks, I have good news and bad news. The good news is that there's another way to get the Phylactery or Dark Phylactery. The bad news is that there's no tradeskills involved at all.

    While chatting with a friend about the Phylactery quest, I became convinced that we're missing something. Too many odds and ends just didn't stick. The quests known to come from Sir Ariam Arcanum in Befallen seemed incomplete somehow. There were too many untied loose ends. So I went back and investigated them.

    The Sir Ariam Arcanum quest led nowhere (other than to the free one-shot horse). I spent a lot of time trying to play around with the bridle and hand it to folks, to no avail. The Arrialla's Token quest, though, proved far more fruitful. Upon completing the quest, you get Arrialla's Token as a reward. It was believed to be the end of the quest. While playing around with this item, I tried handing it in to the Oracle; he returned it.

    Then, just for kicks, I gave it to the Guardian. He said, "Thank you." At first I thought he just ate it. Then I noticed that he had handed me back the Phylactery.

    I'm still not entirely sure of the logical link between the two. If anyone wishes to investigate, they're welcome to try and find one. The quest text in the Alla's link above is complete, as far as I can tell. The best link I could come up with is that since the Token somehow preserved the life of Sir Ariam in Befallen, it acted kind of like the phylactery, which is why the Oracle (or more accurately, the Guardian) would want it. Another possibility is that Sir Ariam was entombed by the Burning Dead, who are lead by a dead sorceror named Marnek. I seem to remember the Oracle disliking Marnek, but I'm not sure. Finally, there could be some kind of relationship between the Guardian and Arrias Arcanum (Ariam's father) in Felwithe.

    What do you make of it?

    KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
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  • #2
    Hi, folks.

    I just want to verify that this is a legit post -- I was having trouble posting to EQTraders, so I asked Sil to post it for me. I also ran the quest myself, so I can verify it works. On Veeshan, there's already a 30-hour-plus waiting line for Sir Arrias in Felwithe, since he despawns on turn-in and has a three hour respawn time.

    Here are the relevant links to Alla's:

    The Sir Ariam Arcanum quest

    The Arrialla's Token quest

    Arrialla's Token (the item)

    I'm surprised no one has offered an opinion or comment yet. =)
    Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
    Master Artisan (300 + GM Trophy in all) of Luclin (Veeshan)
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    • #3
      ...



      This is true. I personally verified it.

      I am now the owner of a phylactery.

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      • #4
        hehe. i might get a phylactery now.

        Maker of Picnics.
        Cooker of things best left unidentified.
        "Grimrose points to the sky. Look! Up in the sky, it's a bird, no, a plane, no it's Picnic-Man. It's Emiamn, a mild mannered tradeskiller by day but daring handsome crime fighter at night. Spreading peace and joy to norrath with his mighty Picnics!"

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        • #5
          lol well im my case here i sit in befallen with the serverwide channel going berzerk la~ la~la ~la spawn skelly spawn



          Kay


          Karana Half-elf
          Natureguard of Povar

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          • #6
            It's times like this that make me wish I hadn't completely totalled my Felwithe faction.

            Actually, no I don't. Every elf I killed was utterly worth it.
            Itzena Alhazared, Revenant of {Planeteers}, Vallon Zek. And also a seamstress.
            Gelcea Macha, Wandering Animist of Tarew Marr. Will be a smith, one day.

            "If it cannot hatch from it's shell, the chick will die without ever truly being born. We are the chick; the world is our egg. If we don't break the world's shell, we will die without truly being born. Smash the world's shell, for the Revolution of the World."

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            • #7
              This doesn't have the sound of "working as intended" to me. A word of caution: if something sounds like a bug but you do it anyway, it might be considered an exploit. This method of getting the Phylactery is ridiculously easy compared to the previous method, enough to sound like a bug.

              Just a thought.
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              Venerable Heyokah Verdandi Snowblood
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              • #8
                Ashamed to admit but just did this. Feeling really stupid but yes it does work for now at least. Time to sit around and wait for a Gm to yell at me.

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                • #9
                  that might be but with a related reason for why it is working it might not be a bug. i think they meant to include a non-ts way to get the phylactery. this even sounds like it makes some rp sense. didn't think they still had it in them.

                  Maker of Picnics.
                  Cooker of things best left unidentified.
                  "Grimrose points to the sky. Look! Up in the sky, it's a bird, no, a plane, no it's Picnic-Man. It's Emiamn, a mild mannered tradeskiller by day but daring handsome crime fighter at night. Spreading peace and joy to norrath with his mighty Picnics!"

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                  • #10
                    While Verdandi makes a good point, I think I have to agree with eniamn - I do remember (although I could be remmebering wrong :P ) them saying there would be a non-tradeskill way to get the "tradeskill reward" part of the 'new' oracle quest. This seems to fit that description. It does seem far to easy comparatively, but seems a rather odd scenario for an accidental happening so, to me at least, it seems more likely to be legit than to be an exploit.

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                    • #11
                      I suppose my intent was to prevent people from saying "I read it on EQ Traders so I figured it was okay". I'd feel horrible if someone read it here, went and did it, and got in trouble.
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                      • #12
                        Dandi has a fair point, but I distinctly remember reading a comment by Sorcery, the screen name for the PR person at Swords and Sorcery (the publishers of the pen and paper EQ RPG), that there would be another way to get the Phylactery.

                        Also, think about both the Phylacteries themselves and the effects on them. We've always commented that they're nowhere near the reward they should be for the difficulty of getting them via the Grand Robe quest. However, they're the perfect reward for a newbie quest -- the clickie is quite useful for a lower-level player.

                        I am reasonably convinced that this method is supposed to exist -- but that's just my personal opinion.

                        I just wish I could establish some kind of logical or in-game-text link between Sir Arrias and the Guardian of K'arnon. Maybe I'll ask both of them about the other by name. I didn't think of that at the time. Since all these quests have a common source (the pen and paper RPG), maybe I should just spam the NPC's with questions about the other NPC's. That is:

                        /say Who is the Oracle of K'arnon?
                        /say Who is the Guardian of K'arnon?
                        /say Who is Arrias Arcanum?
                        /say Who is Sir Arium Arcanum?
                        etc.
                        Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
                        Master Artisan (300 + GM Trophy in all) of Luclin (Veeshan)
                        Master Fisherman (200) and possibly Drunk (2xx + 20%), not sober enough to tell!
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                        • #13
                          Of course, having the phylactery/dark phylactery as a reward from a Befallen quest sort of implies that the mana crystals are used to upgrade it.
                          Itzena Alhazared, Revenant of {Planeteers}, Vallon Zek. And also a seamstress.
                          Gelcea Macha, Wandering Animist of Tarew Marr. Will be a smith, one day.

                          "If it cannot hatch from it's shell, the chick will die without ever truly being born. We are the chick; the world is our egg. If we don't break the world's shell, we will die without truly being born. Smash the world's shell, for the Revolution of the World."

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                          • #14
                            Haven't seen it mentioned, but I'm assuming you don't get the crystals doing the Befallen quest to get the Phylactery?

                            So doing the combine is the only way to get the crystals, which in turn either upgrades the Phylactery, or allows us to make the Palatable Mana? Making the Palatable Mana would be the likely conclusion, they did include an entire line of spells for each type of mana vial, makes sense there's a way to make them and a use for each.
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                            • #15
                              Personally I wouldn't be surprised if somehow he's giving the wrong reward, and somehow he gives you something that if supposed to be with the phylactery and/or mana crystals. Definitely sounds like a glitch to me. That's one heck of a reward for no work. Keep in mind there are still 3 entries in Magelo in the middle of the Oracle quest numbers that have yet to be discovered that I'm 99.9% sure aren't for the one charge mana vials.

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