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    Can int caster's create tomes?

    I attempted to create a fine vellum manual in my spell research kit, but the message that they can't be combined.

    Tome Cover Supplies x 1
    Fine Vellum Solution x 1
    Grubby Fine Vellum x 1
    Celestial Cleanser x 1

    I then used the same recipe in the Tome Binding Kit but got the message saying my class can't make combines that container.

    I was under the impression that int casters would be able to create tomes also. I'm I just missing something simple?

    Thanks for any info you can provide.

  • #2
    Intelligence casters can make any spell, but not tomes or songs.

    Priests can make any spell as well (I believe, but not sure), but not tomes or songs.

    Melee can make any tome, but not spells or songs.

    Hybrids can make tomes and spells usable by hybrids, and bards can make songs as well.

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    • #3
      Thank for the info!

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      • #4
        Songs

        Heh ... Int casters can make songs ... just not tomes. My necro has been making songs for years. I just checked patch messgae to see if that changed.

        "Int caster classes will still be able to research all spells and songs for all classes."
        Last edited by Shadrok; 10-23-2008, 06:06 AM.
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        • #5
          Ngreth makes it clear with this post on the EQ boards http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/po...opic_id=138200
          Originally posted by Ngreth
          I gave poor wording in the first sentence. Read the bullet points. The bullet points are clear about what people get.

          INT classes will still be able to do any researchable spell that is in the game.
          Melee classes will be able to research any tome that can be researched.
          Priests will be able to research any priest spell that can be researched.
          Hybrids will be able to research any hybrid spell or tome that can be researched.
          Bards will be able to research any hybrid spell, tome or song that can be researched.
          INT casters and melee continue to have difficulty 1. Priests and bards will have difficulty 2. Hybrids will have difficulty 3.
          Bold added for emphasis.

          to beat on it more...

          INT classes will still be able to do any research-able spell that is in the game. This means any spell that can be researched, no mater what class can use it, be it int casters, priests, bards, hybrids. This DOES continue to include bard songs. This does NOT include Tomes of any type.
          Melee classes will be able to research any tome that can be researched. This means any tome that can be researched (the list is currently not large) no matter what class uses it be it pure melee or hybrids. This does not include spells of any type.
          Priests will be able to research any priest spell that can be researched. This means ONLY any spell that can be researched, that has Shaman, Druid, or Cleric on its class list.
          Hybrids will be able to research any hybrid spell or tome that can be researched. This means ONLY any spell or tome that can be researched, that has Paladin, Shadowknight, Ranger or Beastlord on it.
          Bards will be able to research any hybrid spell, tome or song that can be researched. This means ONLY any spell or tome that can be researched, that has Paladin, Shadowknight, Ranger, Beastlord or Bard on it. Additionally bards can do any SONG that can be researched (which should already only have Bard on it)
          Message edited by Dev-Ngreth on 08/26/2008 07:16:18.
          Last edited by magicdragon; 10-22-2008, 06:33 PM. Reason: Found a post where Ngreth says what I wanted to say, but better.

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          • #6
            Research AA?

            I understand that we can do research for our classes tomes and/or spells depending on what class you are. What about Mastery AA to reduce chance for failures what the point and skilling up if there no AA I know casters have Arcane Tongues but where is the AA for other classes? I am also wondering what about making Mechanoinstructions will all classes be able to makes these now or still only casters?

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            • #7
              so your going to see big dumb ogres crafting a 352 trivial SPELL RESEARCH for their lvl 70 skill Champions aura......yet a int caster who has maxxed out the skill cannot make it...This makes ALL sorts of NON-sense.

              Int casters should be able to craft EVERYTHING...simple as that
              LIMITs should go to the odd warrior or cleric or hybrid to craft their own personal type of skill,song,spell.

              Why shouldnt my arcane maddening wizard who spends majority of his life in research be able to craft up this skill said dufus ogre warrior wants to bash better?

              Dont point at game balance issues either because that isnt the case at all. There is no reason except that you want warriors to do the magic users job and research because that odd bunch of people want the skill.

              Oh and dont give me the years of exp a warrior has goes into the skill parchment nonsense either. There are many RL examples i can think of for people to CROSS class book train people for various different skills. CPR comes to mind.

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              • #8
                Help me, Help me ...

                The only melee tomes a Wizard would be able to create would be:

                Tome of Cry for Help - Lvl 1
                Tome of Run in Circles - Lvl 5
                Tome of Train the Party - Lvl 10

                Other than that, a wizard has absolutely no melee skill to imbue into a manual.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by eqjeedaa View Post
                  I understand that we can do research for our classes tomes and/or spells depending on what class you are. What about Mastery AA to reduce chance for failures what the point and skilling up if there no AA I know casters have Arcane Tongues but where is the AA for other classes? I am also wondering what about making Mechanoinstructions will all classes be able to makes these now or still only casters?
                  The trivials on tomes are lower than those on spells because of the lack of mastery aa. The success rates on similar level/expansion tomes and spells should be balanced. That was the goal at least. If you know of specific examples where there seems to be an imbalance in the success rate between a tome and a spell of similar level, post and others may be able to take a look at it and see if its should be something to change.

                  I do not know about the Mechanoinstructions. That is a good question though, perhaps you may find an answer in the spell research section if there is one already, if not someone may answer here.
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                  • #10
                    Nope

                    No you can't.

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