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    We constantly get "suggestions" that we add a search feature to the main site.

    For those that aren't aware, we've been working very hard at developing a full tradeskill database containing all the tradeskill stuff we could thing of: recipes, raw materials, final products, vendors, mob drops, forages, fishies, etc. This has been a very long and time-consuming project, as we've wanted to have it as complete as possible before launching it. (And every time we thought we saw a light anywhere near the end of the tunnel, it turned out to be the light from an oncoming expansion, adding yet more mobs, ingredients, recipes, trivials and vendors that needed to be nailed down and added to the database.) We've also been hit hard by real life on more than one occasion, as have several of our hard-working database volunteers.

    However, at long last, we're in alpha testing for the durn thing. No, we don't know when we'll announce beta launch. No, we're not sure when/how we're going to take volunteers to help with the beta phase. No, we don't want you posting, sending PMs, or worse, sending in-game tells about it right now. It's NOT that we're not grateful for help, and we KNOW we'd not be where we are without all you wonderful folks volunteering a ton of information that makes the site better. It's that I'm, frankly, beyond overwhelmed, and I simply cannot take even MORE folks clamoring for my attention right now.

    Please take the following, taken from the May 1 update on the front page of the site to heart:

    I'm sure the skeptics among you had long given up on this following annoucement, but we're finally ready to announce that our database is ready for alpha testing. (Sometimes, even <em>*I*</em> wasn't sure we'd ever hit this point, as it has been a very overwhelming task, and real life has thrown us many curve balls since we started this project.) We are NOT looking for added volunteers at the moment, so please, don't join the folks who have already swamped me with private messages containing well-meaning offers of help. I've given up even attempting to respond to them all at this point, as they're eating up far too much time that I <em>need</em> to be spending on the current site and on the database. When we are ready to announce beta (we have no ETA), we will either have a post asking for volunteers, or we will be contacting folks directly.
    <p>I can't stress this enough. Don't swamp us with tells. Don't send us private messages offering to help. Don't make unsolicited posts offering to help. Please, such "help" will only add to our workload instead of helping us. <i>(And it's very likely that we'll totally ignore you and that folks on the board will start quoting this front page update at you, since we want folks helping us that are willing and able to follow instructions, and if you're bugging us after seeing this post, you're NOT going to be someone we'll choose to help relieve our workload, hm?)</i>

    I truly don't want to seem ungrateful, as without all you wonderful folks that have volunteered information and encouragement over the years, not to mention the dedicated moderators and database volunteers who have kept me from going totally insane, but I'm a very overwhelmed redhead right now, and until this thing is fully launched, I'm fighting a very strong urge to hide in some deep dark corner and tell the world to go away. Of course, if I did that, I'd never get the durn thing launched, <i>despite</i> all the hard work done by my husband and others to get all the technical requirements and searches sorted out.

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    RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AA
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AA
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AA
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!!! !!!!!!!!!


    Plilo made me do it

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    • #3
      ;tell tunare.niami I would like to vo....

      /em gets a large Clue dropped on him, and dizzily looks up to see the House ogre looking angry.

      /em hobbles back in two weeks later, on crutches and in a cast.


      -Lilosh
      Venerable Noishpa Taltos , Planar Druid, Educated Halfling, and GM Baker.
      President and Founder of the Loudmouthed Sarcastic Halflings Society
      Also, Smalltim

      So take the fact of having a dirty mind as proof that you are world-savvy; it's not a flaw, it's an asset, if nothing else, it's a defense - Sanna

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      • #4
        ^_^
        Denmother-sama knows she has lots of willing help on demand.

        GANBATTE, DENMOTHER-SAMA et al!
        (gluck!)

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        • #5
          How's this for a first post?

          Okay, we can't volunteer, but as sure as the sun rises in the east (does it, I haven't checked lately), we can provide...

          Moral Support!!

          /em gives hugs, cheers and chocolate aplenty
          /em bows in the direction of the DenMother
          /em grovels at the feet of those who have gone before
          /em appreciates all the work that has gone into eqtraders



          Falmorn, more or less GM Brewer (217, I think)
          Master of Baking and Pottery
          Swearing quietly at Alchemy
          The border between the Real and the Unreal is not fixed, but just marks the last place where rival gangs of shamans fought each other to a standstill.

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          • #6
            hmm...

            when i tried this, all i got from tc was a lot of "why bother" and one "but it's not pretty!"

            Goe, still too far ahead of his time.

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            • #7
              Outstanding, Denmom!

              I for one have been extremely impressed by all the hard work you do. When you need us, we'll be here to help ya. When you don't, we'll try to stay out of the kitchen! heheh.
              Master Tashim, Enchanter
              Brotherhood of the Spider

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              • #8
                alpha = internal?

                The naming is confusing me.

                If you mean that you have a database running, and you are testing it internally, then congrats + waytago, and thanks for the update.
                GM Brewer

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                • #9
                  If you mean that you have a database running, and you are testing it internally
                  Yes. The data entry team and the moderators are poking and prodding at it now, while Ngreth and I scurry to keep up with all the questions, comments, suggestions and bugs.

                  When we're ready for beta, we'll have folks from the community going over the data with a fine-toothed halfling toe fur comb before we release it live.

                  Basically, many, many thousands of man-hours down, a few hundred to go.

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                  • #10
                    Out of curiousity is this a MySQL/.MDB/MSSQL DB?

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                    • #11
                      *tiny little question*

                      Is this going to be a searchable database?

                      /em crosses fingers in hope.

                      -Sparkling Icewolf
                      Sparkling Icewolf

                      Sparklin

                      Sokion Heshilao

                      Aelfa Ri`ali

                      ...and a variety of other toons on Tarew Marr server. Gotta have one for every class you know!

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                      • #12
                        mySQL, php queries - House Ogre self-taught himself (with help from the community when he got stuck) to put it together.

                        And you're durn tootin' it's searchable!

                        This thing is over a year in development, and is *still* not going to have everything we want in it for launch, but we'll keep adding to it as we go along -- we want to let you folks start poking at it sooner, rather than later, so we'll try to have it launch "very soon".

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                        • #13
                          Mmmmmm Searchable

                          *DANCE* I like the sound of that!

                          /applause

                          Look forward to testing your launch version!
                          No reply neccesary. Blessings to you.

                          -Sparkling icewolf
                          Sparkling Icewolf

                          Sparklin

                          Sokion Heshilao

                          Aelfa Ri`ali

                          ...and a variety of other toons on Tarew Marr server. Gotta have one for every class you know!

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                          • #14
                            I would like to congratulate the House Ogre for being self taught on databases. As much as I would love to learn Access and other platforms, I open a new DB and think "what the heck am I doing here?"

                            KUDO's NGreth!

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                            Cazic Thule server

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                            • #15
                              php is the 12th programing language I have learned... if you count MySQL it is 13 (not much of a language)..

                              SO at this point... it is mostly "what is the syntax on this language"

                              *BUT* I do not ahve much experience programing... so this was still much learning.
                              Ngreth Thergn

                              Ngreth nice Ogre. Ngreth not eat you. Well.... Ngreth not eat you if you still wiggle!
                              Grandmaster Smith 250
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                              Ogres not dumb - we not lose entire city to froggies

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