Trivial contradictions from test

[Tinile]

These are all taken from test with the new UI

Bog juice - trivial 20
caynar nut brown ale - trivial 40
Embalming Fluid - trivial 16
Fizzle Pop (is two words) - trivial 35 (there are 2 fizzlepops, this is recipe: berries, sylvan berries, 2 bottle, aerated mineral water)
Flask of berry juice - 20
Flask of fruit juice - 23
flask of rathe berry juice - 25
heady kiola - 45
heady paeala - 45
legion lager - 35
light mithril string - 41
light steel string - 41
lizard blood temper - 14
malted milk - 25
mead - 40
othmir algae ale - 30
othmir short beer - 30
root beer float - 20
short beer - 30
stormguard root beer - 30
strong mithril string - 41
water flask - 20

block of medium quality ore - 20 - 3 large block of medium quality ore, water flask
ebon drake scales - 18 - rough dark reflection staff / sharpening stone (new recipe)
file - 20 - file mold, water flask, metal bits
large brick of medium quality ore - 19 - water flask / 3 small brick of medium quality ore
large brick of ore - 20 - tarnished two handed sword, sharpening stone
velium bits - 20 - cvt / 2 small piece of velium

I will attempt some testing on live servers with these things and hunt for some more.

[Krazick]

Simple question - Are these Contradictions because we show them as One Higher than the Tradeskill UI? Or they radically different trivials?

if just one higher... there is a discussion between the staff here and SoE Staff underway about the meaning of "Trivial". I don't want to deal with changing our DB entries at this time.

[Tinile]

Some of both, I will edit later as to reflect the differences.

[Krazick]

Tinile,

After the next patch... take another peek at these trivials in the new UI...

[Tinile]

Aye, since it's so close, may as just wait on the 1 pointers, but I will get the ones that had a much larger triv range noted from the list.

[Tinile]

Ok, here is the list I had made. The numbers at the beginning, after the name are what the UI states was trivial, the number at the end in parenthesis is what EQTraders has as trivial. Most are 1 number off, but there is also a name correction (Fizzle Pop) and a new recipe (Ebon Drake Scales). Others also have a range narrowing. I got tired after seeing all the forge recipes, which is why I stopped so soon, which may be good to wait til it's live for most anyway. You can do with the list what you will, now that you have it all. Thanks for all your hard work Krazick, you are a very good database kitty.

Brew Barrel
bog juice 20 - snake scales / bottle / water flask (21)
bottle of kalish 30 - water flask / fruit / bottle / vegetables (30)
caynar nut brown ale 40 - bag of caynar nuts / cask / barley / hops / malt (41)
embalming fluid 16 - rubbing alcohol / bone granite powder / bog juice / bog juice (21)
fizzle pop 35 - berries / sylvan berries / bottle / bottle / aerated mineral water (35 name is two words on UI)
flask of berry juice 20 - water flask / berries / berries (21)
flask of fruit juice 23 - water flask / fruit / fruit (24)
flask of rathe berry juice 25 - water flask / rathe berries / rathe berries (24-26)
heady kiola 45 - water flask / packet of kiola sap / packet of kiola sap / bottle (46)
heady paeala 45 - water flask / packet of paeala sap / packet of paeala sap / bottle (46)
honey mead 40 - water flask / royal jelly / cask / hops (40)
legion lager 35 - deadbone barley / flask of bloodwater / a giant blood sac / bottle (36)
light mithril string 41 - silk string / small brick of mithril / oak bark tannin (<=51)
light steel string 41 - silk string / surefall tannin / small brick of steel (>151)
lizard blood temper 14 - scale temper / tae ew blood vial (<=135)
malted milk 25 - bottle of milk / malt / bottle (26)
mead 40 - cask / hops / malt / yeast (41)
othmir algae ale 30 - cask / azure algae / ochre algae / white algae (unk)
othmir ocean mead 40 - cask / ochre algae / white algae / grey algea (typo in game on the grey algae) (40)
othmir short beer 30 - cask / azure algae / ochre algae / white algae (31)
root beer float 20 - frosting / stormguard root beer / chunk of ice (21)
short beer 30 - cask / barley / hops / malt (31)
stormguard root beer 30 - water flask / roots / roots / spices / yeast / bottle (31)
strong mithril string 41 - silk string / small brick of mithril / small brick of mithril / oak bark tannin (unk)
water flask 20 - pod of water / pod of water / pod of water / pod of water / bottle (21)

Reg Forge
block of medium quality ore 20 - 3 large block of medium quality ore / water flask (27)
ebon drake scales 18 - rough dark reflection staff / sharpening stone (new recipe)
file 20 - file mold / water flask / metal bits (21)
high quality metal bits 20 - water flask / 2 small piece of high quality ore (20)
large brick of medium quality ore 19 - water flask / 3 small brick of medium quality ore (27)
large brick of ore 20 - tarnished two handed sword, water flask (21)
velium bits 20 - cvt / 2 small piece of velium (21)

[Krazick]

Since this post was originaly based on the new UI when in Test (prior to GoD comming out) and there was a problem with the trivials being off by a point... could I get a recomfiration on these before I post them?

[Tinile]

I will check them over the weekend and let you know.

[Tinile]

Per UI -

bog juice = 21
bottle of kalish = 31
caynar nut brown ale = 41
embalming fluid = 17
fizzle pop = 36 berries / sylvan berries / bottle / bottle / aerated mineral water (name is two words on UI)
Fizzlepop (one word) = 142 bottle / flask of fruit juice / soda water (this recipe may be correct in db, just added for comparison sake to above line)
flask of berry juice = 21
flask of fruit juice = 24
flask of rathe berry juice = 26
heady kiola = 46
heady paeala = 46
honey mead = 41
legion lager = 36
light mithril string = 42
light steel string = 42
lizard blood temper = 15
malted milk = 26
mead = 41
othmir algae ale = 31
othmir ocean mead = 41
othmir short beer = 31
root beer float = 21
short beer = 31
stormguard root beer = 31
strong mithril string = 42
water flask = 21

Reg Forge
block of medium quality ore = 21
ebon drake scales = 19 rough dark reflection staff / sharpening stone (was a new recipe - never checked if was added, so left recipe)
file = 21
high quality metal bits = 20
large brick of medium quality ore = 20 water flask, 3 small brick of MQ ore
large brick of ore = 21 - tarnished two handed sword, water flask
velium bits = 21

[Krazick]

OK fixed these trivials...

But 'Ebon Drake Scales'? never heard of that one... and what is the rough dark reflection staff?

[Tinile]

But 'Ebon Drake Scales'? never heard of that one... and what is the rough dark reflection staff?

No clue, found it in the UI.

[Cubwynn]

The Dark Reflection are the evil gnome guilds in Ak'Anon. Perhaps it's a newbie quest recipe that's not known?

[Tinile]

From Lucy

Rough Dark Reflection Staff
LORE ITEM
This item can be used in tradeskills.
WT: 0.1 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=10999

Nothing at allakhazam about it.

[Krazick]

Added the Ebon Drake Scale Recipe