The Ingredients Thread - Page 2

Jasarina · 11-05-2004, 11:58 AM

FoodStuff:

Raw Basil
Twinleaf
Juniper
JumJum
Raw Pecans
Snakeroot
Allspice
Milkweed
Sassafras
Barley
Raw White Tea Leaf
Raw Nutmeg

All from tier one zones. I just got my skill up so I can go out to Antonica again hehehe.

Atlock Darkhand · 11-05-2004, 12:02 PM

You are doing an awsome Job, this list is exsaclly what Iahve been serching for to tell my Guild mates gather the need supplies for all of the crafters in my Guild.

Thank you...

Tyrsa · 11-06-2004, 11:24 AM

Just collected some data on gathering.
This isn't scientific or anything, since I didn't collect data on how many nodes I harvested from or how many times I failed while collecting.

Of note, I had a max level of 72 available to me in harvesting skills, and with the reset to 15 skill as my starting level, I managed to get 27/72 Foresting, 28/72 Mining, 23/72 Trapping, and 65/72 Gathering(!!) while harvesting from everything in sight in The Ruins (no, I didn't concentrate on gathering only).

Collected:
Ravished Natural Garden
12 Barley
9 Jumjum
8 Raw Basil
8 Raw Pecan
7 Raw White Tea Leaf
5 Black Coffee Bean
5 Baubleshire Cabbage (note: this is the only thing currently that you can harvest and sell to a vendor, rest of the harvested items have no-value, I'm guessing this is an oversight)
4 Raw Nutmeg

Ravished Natural Herb Garden
8 Juniper
6 Sassafras
5 Milkweed
4 Birchwood
3 Snakeroot
2 Birchroot
2 Silverberry
2 Allspice
2 Twinleaf

Obviously I found more regular gardens than herb gardens.
In the regular garden, Barley is the common, with Jumjum, Basil, Pecan, and White Tea Leaf Uncommon, and the last 3 "rare". 58 successful gathers from regular gardens.
In the herb garden, Juniper seems to be the common, Sassafras, Milkweed, and Birchwood the Uncommon, and the rest rare, though the sample here might be too small to really tell. 31 successful gathers from herb gardens.

Now, if I just could find a reliable place to find "liquid" I'll be all set

-Tyrsa

Zendaken · 11-06-2004, 01:31 PM

That's a rather strange term for a garden like place - I would have expected ravaged instead... (*shrug*) Wonder if this is actually a typo?

Kyochi the Swashbuckler · 11-08-2004, 11:56 AM

Faeries blood from the peat bog is a liquid.

Nilty · 11-09-2004, 09:56 AM

Canine Saliva on IOR was a liquid as well. (Dropped from some wolves in the gobbie camp)

Niami DenMother · 11-10-2004, 06:23 PM

There are several variations on "plants" for recipes, sadly.

The "raw average plant" will accept roots, tubers (higher tier, but some folks do it), white tea leaf, (sounds like black tea leaf as well, but again, that's higher level, and a bit of a waste) - it won't accept wood.

rhoshin · 11-11-2004, 03:32 PM

Distilled water bought of any vendor? didnt see any in tradeskills entrance (sorry for the n00b question)

Grei · 11-11-2004, 07:57 PM

It used to be. I haven't gotten that far to check to see what's available after the tradeskill revamp of the last week of Beta. Might need to do tasks to get it to appear.

Or just go hunt things that drop 'liquids' like the slimes in Peat Bog.

Grei

Gelondil · 11-11-2004, 10:10 PM

I can confirm that baking Salt does not count as a raw inorganic.

Ngreth Thergn · 11-12-2004, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhoshin

Distilled water bought of any vendor? didnt see any in tradeskills entrance (sorry for the n00b question)

It is in all the tradeskill instances I have seen. which one is it missing from?

Otoole · 11-25-2004, 08:18 AM

Just an FYI, I am currently trying to fashion an item that requires liquid as one of the components and "An accumulation of plasma" is not available in the list as one of my liquids.

Perhaps there is a difference between "an" accumulation of plasma vs accumulation of plasma; or perhaps it is called "accumulated plasma".

Nai`Ji · 11-27-2004, 06:48 PM

I think it's almost fair to assume that anything that "fits" a description can be used as that generic item. For example, malachite is listed as inorganic but also inorganics would be (as mentioned) salt, turquoise and any other "literal" inorganic.. I actually lost a few turquoise making tempers because i figured that if I set the root ingredient once, it would stick.. Wrong! Heh.

JohnPWest · 11-27-2004, 09:52 PM

Barley works for Average Plant material for the Chloro combine that wants that

Selfea · 02-16-2006, 03:21 AM

FYI I can't select anything other than 'roots' to make Chloro Wash with even though I have some raw average plants (like tubers) in my inventory.

Zendaken · 02-16-2006, 08:40 AM

Like whoa. Let's see, what was that chant? Clatu something or another.

The basis for this thread was that some time long ago in the past, monster drops would function as substitute ingredients. While that is true to some extent currently, in the various updates since this thread (Nov 2004!), most of the "generic" usage of components was removed and the monster drops were basically restricted to rare substitutes. They additionally modified (most?) everything to tell you if it operates as a substitute.

Basically, don't expect any substitutions for the basic raws. There may be some left, but for the most part, you'd probably be better off selling that and buy/harvesting more regular raws.

Lordebon · 02-16-2006, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zendaken

Like whoa. Let's see, what was that chant? Clatu something or another.

Clatu, Verata... Nickle?

Clatu, Verata... Ni(coughsneeze).

Yeah, I said the words. Well I didnt' say every little sylable, but I said 'em.

Hail to the King, Baby.

i <3 Army of Darkness.

CherryTerri · 11-09-2008, 09:33 PM

I'll be whipped for necro posting I'm sure ....

but I have found some items labeled with uncommon written on them (normally on pelts and skin I find) that can be used in place of T1 pelts.

Would there be a listing of them? Or is it just not a big deal now.

Zendaken · 11-10-2008, 06:54 AM

(*pulls out the whip*) Ah hmm.

With how common and (relatively) easy it is to get the regular components, and how few substitutions drop any more, there doesn't seem to be much need to make a list. And, for the most part, you can sell the substitution item to a merchant and then buy more raws from the broker.

Mynervia Warsmith · 11-10-2008, 03:44 PM

To echo Zendaken, when a few months ago I was looking into using the dropped versions of the ingredients, I found that most of the "uncommon"/dropped variants sold for upwards of a silver (often several silver or into the double digits) while the fuel vendor's versions tend to cost a mere couple copper. With some of the non-vendor sold items, like pelts, the dropped versions still tended to sell for more (to NPC vendors) than it cost to buy the harvested version (from the broker).

Meridious · 01-11-2010, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mynervia Warsmith

To echo Zendaken, when a few months ago I was looking into using the dropped versions of the ingredients, I found that most of the "uncommon"/dropped variants sold for upwards of a silver (often several silver or into the double digits) while the fuel vendor's versions tend to cost a mere couple copper. With some of the non-vendor sold items, like pelts, the dropped versions still tended to sell for more (to NPC vendors) than it cost to buy the harvested version (from the broker).

Most I see....T1 especially...go for a copper or two.

11-05-2004, 11:58 AM	#26
Jasarina Visitor Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14	FoodStuff: Raw Basil Twinleaf Juniper JumJum Raw Pecans Snakeroot Allspice Milkweed Sassafras Barley Raw White Tea Leaf Raw Nutmeg All from tier one zones. I just got my skill up so I can go out to Antonica again hehehe. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Visit To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. for all your crafting needs!!!

11-05-2004, 12:02 PM	#27
Atlock Darkhand Hobbyist Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 122	You are doing an awsome Job, this list is exsaclly what Iahve been serching for to tell my Guild mates gather the need supplies for all of the crafters in my Guild. Thank you... __________________ Feind Folio Elite Nobility Guild Officer Antoia Bayle Server

11-06-2004, 11:24 AM	#28
Tyrsa Visitor Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 27	Ingredient Info Just collected some data on gathering. This isn't scientific or anything, since I didn't collect data on how many nodes I harvested from or how many times I failed while collecting. Of note, I had a max level of 72 available to me in harvesting skills, and with the reset to 15 skill as my starting level, I managed to get 27/72 Foresting, 28/72 Mining, 23/72 Trapping, and 65/72 Gathering(!!) while harvesting from everything in sight in The Ruins (no, I didn't concentrate on gathering only). Collected: Ravished Natural Garden 12 Barley 9 Jumjum 8 Raw Basil 8 Raw Pecan 7 Raw White Tea Leaf 5 Black Coffee Bean 5 Baubleshire Cabbage (note: this is the only thing currently that you can harvest and sell to a vendor, rest of the harvested items have no-value, I'm guessing this is an oversight) 4 Raw Nutmeg Ravished Natural Herb Garden 8 Juniper 6 Sassafras 5 Milkweed 4 Birchwood 3 Snakeroot 2 Birchroot 2 Silverberry 2 Allspice 2 Twinleaf Obviously I found more regular gardens than herb gardens. In the regular garden, Barley is the common, with Jumjum, Basil, Pecan, and White Tea Leaf Uncommon, and the last 3 "rare". 58 successful gathers from regular gardens. In the herb garden, Juniper seems to be the common, Sassafras, Milkweed, and Birchwood the Uncommon, and the rest rare, though the sample here might be too small to really tell. 31 successful gathers from herb gardens. Now, if I just could find a reliable place to find "liquid" I'll be all set -Tyrsa Last edited by Tyrsa; 11-06-2004 at 11:02 PM. Reason: Figured out where Snakeroot came from

11-06-2004, 01:31 PM	#29
Zendaken 'Mum's Forum Admin Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,068	That's a rather strange term for a garden like place - I would have expected ravaged instead... (shrug) Wonder if this is actually a typo? __________________ Zen To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-10-2004, 06:23 PM	#32
Niami DenMother 'Mum Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4,754	There are several variations on "plants" for recipes, sadly. The "raw average plant" will accept roots, tubers (higher tier, but some folks do it), white tea leaf, (sounds like black tea leaf as well, but again, that's higher level, and a bit of a waste) - it won't accept wood. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-08-2004, 11:56 AM	#30
Kyochi the Swashbuckler Visitor Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6	Faeries blood from the peat bog is a liquid.

11-09-2004, 09:56 AM	#31
Nilty Visitor Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 43	Canine Saliva on IOR was a liquid as well. (Dropped from some wolves in the gobbie camp)

11-11-2004, 03:32 PM	#33
rhoshin Visitor Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2	Distilled water bought of any vendor? didnt see any in tradeskills entrance (sorry for the n00b question)

11-11-2004, 07:57 PM	#34
Grei The Infamous Contributor Grei Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 403	It used to be. I haven't gotten that far to check to see what's available after the tradeskill revamp of the last week of Beta. Might need to do tasks to get it to appear. Or just go hunt things that drop 'liquids' like the slimes in Peat Bog. Grei __________________ A man who has had too much time on his hands and spends it thinking deep thoughts about tradeskills... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-11-2004, 10:10 PM	#35
Gelondil Visitor Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	I can confirm that baking Salt does not count as a raw inorganic.

11-25-2004, 08:18 AM	#37
Otoole Visitor Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 12	Fyi Just an FYI, I am currently trying to fashion an item that requires liquid as one of the components and "An accumulation of plasma" is not available in the list as one of my liquids. Perhaps there is a difference between "an" accumulation of plasma vs accumulation of plasma; or perhaps it is called "accumulated plasma".

11-27-2004, 06:48 PM	#38
Nai`Ji Visitor Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 16	I think it's almost fair to assume that anything that "fits" a description can be used as that generic item. For example, malachite is listed as inorganic but also inorganics would be (as mentioned) salt, turquoise and any other "literal" inorganic.. I actually lost a few turquoise making tempers because i figured that if I set the root ingredient once, it would stick.. Wrong! Heh.

11-27-2004, 09:52 PM	#39
JohnPWest Visitor Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 15	Barley works for Average Plant material for the Chloro combine that wants that

02-16-2006, 03:21 AM	#40
Selfea Visitor Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4	FYI I can't select anything other than 'roots' to make Chloro Wash with even though I have some raw average plants (like tubers) in my inventory.

02-16-2006, 08:40 AM	#41
Zendaken 'Mum's Forum Admin Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,068	Like whoa. Let's see, what was that chant? Clatu something or another. The basis for this thread was that some time long ago in the past, monster drops would function as substitute ingredients. While that is true to some extent currently, in the various updates since this thread (Nov 2004!), most of the "generic" usage of components was removed and the monster drops were basically restricted to rare substitutes. They additionally modified (most?) everything to tell you if it operates as a substitute. Basically, don't expect any substitutions for the basic raws. There may be some left, but for the most part, you'd probably be better off selling that and buy/harvesting more regular raws. __________________ Zen To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-09-2008, 09:33 PM	#43
CherryTerri Visitor Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2	I'll be whipped for necro posting I'm sure .... but I have found some items labeled with uncommon written on them (normally on pelts and skin I find) that can be used in place of T1 pelts. Would there be a listing of them? Or is it just not a big deal now. __________________ ~~<~@ Ellistia Joffree @~>~~ ~~<~@ 13th Rank Craftswoman @~>~~ ~~<~@ Antonia Bayle @~>~~

11-10-2008, 06:54 AM	#44
Zendaken 'Mum's Forum Admin Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,068	(pulls out the whip) Ah hmm. With how common and (relatively) easy it is to get the regular components, and how few substitutions drop any more, there doesn't seem to be much need to make a list. And, for the most part, you can sell the substitution item to a merchant and then buy more raws from the broker. __________________ Zen To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

11-10-2008, 03:44 PM	#45
Mynervia Warsmith Hobbyist Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 99	To echo Zendaken, when a few months ago I was looking into using the dropped versions of the ingredients, I found that most of the "uncommon"/dropped variants sold for upwards of a silver (often several silver or into the double digits) while the fuel vendor's versions tend to cost a mere couple copper. With some of the non-vendor sold items, like pelts, the dropped versions still tended to sell for more (to NPC vendors) than it cost to buy the harvested version (from the broker).

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