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    Unfired Black Ceramic Band shows Celestial Essence as a utility item and the Sculpting Tool as not one.
    -- Mewkus: 2100 dings on the server formerly known as Solusek Ro
    try: Inventory/Flags/Spells tracker program - (sample output)

  • #2
    For the purpose of the database, a utility item is one that has many subcombines not directly related to the main item being produced. Examples include celestial essence and leather padding -- if I want to look up how to make ceramic bands, I don't necessarily want to see all 40-odd ways to make CE.

    Sculpting tools are vendor-sold and don't have any recipes, which is probably why they're not tagged as utility items.
    Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
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    • #3
      Ah, ok. My mistake. I had thought that 'utility item' meant it was a flag to indicate the item is returned regardless of sucess or failure (ala smithy hammer, file, etc). If I'da only read the description for utillity item first.
      -- Mewkus: 2100 dings on the server formerly known as Solusek Ro
      try: Inventory/Flags/Spells tracker program - (sample output)

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      • #4
        There might be a better term for it... I can understand why you are confused. Any suggestions?
        Brother Krazick Bloodyscales 65th Trial Scaley Transcendent
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        • #5
          Maybe "Common component"? Or just "Too many subcombines".

          The problem is that items like a file, or a block of ore should also have this tag, so certain terms that make sense for, say, CE would sound weird with those, and vice versa.

          I think "common component" would work be an improvement.
          Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
          Master Artisan (300 + GM Trophy in all) of Luclin (Veeshan)
          Master Fisherman (200) and possibly Drunk (2xx + 20%), not sober enough to tell!
          Lightbringer, Redeemer, and Valiant servant of Erollisi Marr

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          • #6
            how about something like "made through multiple recipes" or "created using a variety of recipes"

            ...probably too wordy, but maybe those will spark a great idea on someone else's part
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            • #7
              OK... this change needs to be applied by Ngreth... If Niami/Ngreth want to apply it at all.
              Brother Krazick Bloodyscales 65th Trial Scaley Transcendent
              Krizick 37th Kitty Tank
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              • #8
                Go ahead and make more sugestions. I do want it to be relatively short no more than 2 words... so stretch your brains
                Ngreth Thergn

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                • #9
                  Miscellaneous thoughts:
                  "Excessive recipes"
                  "Excessive subcombines"
                  "Excessive options"
                  "Too many versions"

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                  • #10
                    Some other items that I would recommend fall into the "Utility item" category:

                    small piece of velium
                    small piece of medium quality ore
                    Thorvari - Walkers
                    Feral Lord - Vazaelle

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                    • #11
                      Grammar

                      Seems we're down to grammar on this one.

                      'Multiple Recipes'
                      was my first thought, but it's essentially the same as
                      'Excessive Recipes'

                      OR

                      Multiple Methods
                      Various Methods
                      Various Recipes



                      Although what I think you're really after is a fast way to say 'You REALLY don't want us to spam you with all the ways to make this thing'



                      creatable
                      Mavick

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                      • #12
                        "Subcombine Versions"

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                        • #13
                          Ok, when getting around to fixing this item... another thread points to a minor typo ..

                          Typo Thread
                          Brother Krazick Bloodyscales 65th Trial Scaley Transcendent
                          Krizick 37th Kitty Tank
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                          • #14
                            I am not a particular fan of any of these, though I do thank you for the sugestions...

                            do we have more sugestions?
                            Ngreth Thergn

                            Ngreth nice Ogre. Ngreth not eat you. Well.... Ngreth not eat you if you still wiggle!
                            Grandmaster Smith 250
                            Master Tailor 200
                            Ogres not dumb - we not lose entire city to froggies

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                            • #15
                              Many recipes
                              Multiple sources?
                              Tailoring - 250 (Zillia 225)
                              Brewing - 250 (Zillia 250)
                              Baking - 250 (Zillia 250)
                              Blacksmithing - 218 (Zillia 225)
                              Fishing - 200
                              Fletching - 200 (Zillia 235)
                              Pottery - 198 (Zillia 227)
                              Jewelcraft - 195 (Zillia 250)
                              Thread-killing - 250

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