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    FAQ: Fletching

    FAQ Fletching
    If you have questions after reading this thread, please start a separate thread, and keep this thread for actual FAQ entries only.

    Q How do I make (Whatever)?
    A Go to EQ Traders and look it up! (Also try Aoenla's Fletching Guide. It has everything you'd want, though it takes a bit to load up.)

    Q How do I make (Some rumored, RL, or other recipe not listed)?
    A If it's not there, and it's not on the message board (Check back a couple pages to be sure), NOBODY KNOWS! Most likely it isn't implemented yet, and may never be implemented. At the very least, nobody has discovered the recipe. Feel free to post attempts and DNC messages, but please check to be sure you're not repeating somebody

    Q What's the best bow I can make?
    A Define best bow? Using it as your main battle weapon? Go for the silk string, cams, carving tools, the works. Using it to pull? Get the best Staff, but skip the fancy bits.

    Q How do I skill up?
    A Make arrows until a part trivials. Triviality depends on the most complex part, so if you're not concerned about making the best arrows in skilling up, buy the one part you're practicing on and go cheap on the rest. Arrows will take you to 202, so if you don't want to Grand-Master the skill, be careful. Compound Darkwood bows will go to 235. From there it's on to Shadewood bows and/or Condensed Element arrows.

    We're still working on nailing down the trivials for the specific Shadewood bow and Condensed Element arrow combinations, but we do know that a combination of the bows and arrows will take you all the way to 250.

    Q Why should I Fletch?
    A If you want high-quality bows and arrows, fletching is for you. Also there are a few quests that use fletching. A storied and complex art it may be, but the reasons are fairly simple.

    Q I foraged up some feathers. What can I make with them?
    A Feathers are used in Alchemy, not fletching.

    Q If I have an illusion wood elf item, can I make the wood elven cultural fletching?
    A Illusions do not fool cultural tradeskill containers. Unless you are a wood elf by birth, you cannot perform wood elven cultural fletching.

    Q Whats a GM?
    A When refering to a Trade Skiller, A GM is a Grand Master in a skill. This is a player term for anyone who has taken their prefered trade skill above 200 points. Only one trade skill may be taken above 200, so choose that skill wisely! You can get more tradeskills past the 200 mark once you have the ability to earn Alternate Advancement Points. See the FAQ about it. (DenMom edit some folks prefer to use the grandmaster term only for those who have attained 250 in a given tradeskill. Either way, be very careful of that 200-skill mark, as once you reach 201, there is no way to downgrade your skill so that you may raise a different one above 200.)

    Q Can players make Velium Bows?
    A Not at this time. All Velium Bows in game are Monster Dropped, or the result of quests.

    Q What are the trivial levels for various bows?
    A Trivials are listed on the recipes page, Fletching Quick List. You can also read the Fletching Chart below.

    Q Which range figure on the arrow, the bow, or both determines how far an arrow goes? Is it the longest of either or combination of the two?
    A The combination of the two.

    Q Assuming a sufficiently high smithing skill, is it cheaper to smith your own fletching ingredients or buy parts from a vender?
    A It depends on many factors, such as your smithing skill, your faction, and your charisma. Steel Vanes and Silver Arrow Heads are usually more expensive to smith than to purchase.

    {updated 20 Oct., 2003 - included new notes, fixed links, cleaned up thread. Also combined the Cheap Fletching Chart and the Fletching Chart threads into the FAQ.}
    Last edited by Lothay; 10-21-2003 at 07:46 AM.

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    Cheap Fletching Chart

    Heres a chart I made up to show the *cheapest* combinations to get your fletching skill up to 202 with storebought items.

    Use this chart if you want to skill up to 200+ and just sell the arrows back to the vendor, and arent interested in keeping any for real use.


    Code:
    Tip.... Fletch.. Nock... Shaft.. Triv
    --------------------------------------
    Field.. Round... Large.. Wood... 16
    Field.. Round... Medium. Wood... 36
    Field.. Parab... Large.. Wood... 46
    Field.. Round... Small.. Wood... 56
    Field.. Round... Large.. Bone... 68
    Field.. Shield.. Large.. Wood... 82
    Hooked. Round... Large.. Wood... 102
    Field.. Wood*... Large.. Wood... 122
    Field.. Round... Large.. Ceramic 135
    Field.. Bone*... Large.. Wood... 162
    Silver. Round... Large.. Wood... 182
    Field.. Ceramic* Large.. Wood... 202
    
    * = Vanes
    Last edited by Lothay; 08-05-2003 at 01:44 PM.
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    Fletching Chart Reposted

    Code:
    ARROWS				
    Tip		Fletch		Nock	Shaft	Triv
    --------------------------------------------------------
    field		round		large	wood	 16
                                    medium		 36
    		parabolic			 46
    				small		 56
    					bone	 68
    		shield				 82
    hooked						102
    		wood vane			122
    					ceramic	135
    		bone vane			162
    silver						182
    		ceramic vane		steel	202
    condensed 
    substance	shield		small	acrylia	>250
    * can be shadow, fire, or ice
    Acrylia arrows may only use shield fletches and small nocks. 
    The trivials for those peices for Old-World arrows are listed 
    separately. 
    
    Tip		DMG		Range		Triv
    --------------------------------------------------------		
    field		 0		 0		 16		
    hooked		+1		 0		102		
    silver		+2 magic	 0		182
    		
    Fletch		DMG		Range		Triv
    --------------------------------------------------------
    round		 0		  0		 16	
    parabolic	 0		+50		 46	
    shield		+1		-75		 82	
    wood vane	+1		-25		122	
    bone vane	+1		+50		162	
    ceramic vane	+2		+25		202
    	
    Nock		DMG		Range		Triv
    --------------------------------------------------------	
    large		 0		  0		16		
    medium		 0		+25		36	
    small		 0		+50		56
    		
    Shaft		DMG		Range		Triv
    --------------------------------------------------------			
    wood		 0		0		 16	
    bone		+1		0		 68
    ceramic		+2		0		135
    steel		+3		0		202
    
    Note: condensed substance tip, shieldcut flethces, small nocks, 
    acrylia shafts yeilds triv >250  (dmg 10 +4 by tip range 125)
    
    BOWS
    Bow Staff	String	Tool		Cams	Triv
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Hickory	Hemp					  16
    		Linen				  32
    		Silk				  46
    Elm						  68
    			Whitling Blade		 102
    Ashwood						 129
    			Planing Tool		 148
    Oak						 168
    					1 cam	 192
    Darkwood					 215
    					2 cam	 235
    Shadewood					>250
    Sedgewood					  ??
    
    String		DMG	Delay	Range	Triv
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Hemp		 0	 0	 0	  16
    Linen		-1	-4	 0	  32
    Silk		-2	-8	 0	  46
    
    Bow Staff	DMG	Delay	Range	Triv	tools useable
    -------------------------------------------------------------
    Hickory		10	50	50	16	nothing
    Elm		13	51	75	68	Whittling knife 
    Ashwood		16	58	100	129	Planing tool
    Oak		21	65	125	168	1 cam & Planing tool
    Sedgewood	23	66	150	^	2 cams & Planing tool 
    Darkwood	25	68	150	215	2 cams & Planing tool
    Shadewood	27	66	150	^	2 cams & Planing tool
    
    Tool		DMG	Delay	Range	Triv
    --------------------------------------------
    Whitling Blade	-1	-4	0	102
    Planing Tool	-2	-9	0	148
    
    Cams		DMG	Delay	Range	Triv
    --------------------------------------------
    1 Cam		-1	-5	+25	192
    2 Cams		-2	-10	+50	235
    Took the chart originally posted by poster, and cleaned up formatting. Should be easier to read now.

    ^ Trivials found with the new UI. 2 bow staves act differently and below is there trivial information.

    Sedgewood Recurves all trivial at 188.
    Sedgewood 1 cams all trivial at 202.
    Sedgewood 2 cams all trivial at 215.

    Shadewood Recurves all trivial at 255.
    Shadewood 1 cams all trivial at 268.
    Shadewood 2 cams all trivial at 282.
    Last edited by eniamn; 02-11-2004 at 02:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splunge
    Heres a chart I made up to show the *cheapest* combinations to get your fletching skill up to 202 with storebought items.

    Code:
    Tip.... Fletch.. Nock... Shaft.. Triv
    --------------------------------------
    Silver. Round... Large.. Wood... 182
    Field.. Ceramic* Large.. Wood... 202
    
    * = Vanes
    3p9g9s for Silver Tipped Arrow Heads
    2p7g8s for Ceramic Arrow Vanes
    2p8g3s for Bundled Steel Arrow Shafts

    Any of those can be used for skillups from 162 to 182. I don't understand how silver tips can be the cheapest thing for skilling up. I was doing steel shafts till I ran out of cash before I saw this guide, now I'm wondering if I did it wrong. Is there a reason to pay 20pp more per stack of combines?

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    What is "cheapest" anyway?

    It sorta depends what you mean by "cheapest."

    If you mean cheapest cost of the individual combine, you are correct, the ceramic is "cheapest."

    However, many people feel it's more effective to do a combine whose trivial is close to your skill, to maximize the chance of a skillup. In this sense, "cheapest" would mean the cheapest recipe closest (and "close" takes us to another subjective discussion) to your skill level.

    I suspect the latter is the reason why the listed item is "cheapest" for 162.

    But I could be wrong .
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    Actually, I think they changed the pricing of items since this guide was first made and no one has had the energy to go back and recalculate
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