Surely the stats for Ruby and Sapphire are wrong...right?
If not, I'll me making some of those pronto.
Edit: Also, check Fire Emerald. On all three, I think the 100 is probably wrong. Even with the hard caps on Mana Regen, Regen, and DS...
I'm becoming more and more a fan of shared spreadsheets, so I'm giving this one a try with Jewelcrafting. I've put together a sheet that summarizes what I know so far of the new gems, their cuts, and what stats they give with each metal. Feel free to browse or add to it; the sheet is open for everyone to edit.
http://www.editgrid.com/user/kyroskrane/Jewelcrafting
The max stats information should be copied from Lucy, EQItems, Magelo, or a similar authenticated source.
The information for each metal should be taken from in game. In other words, if you don't see the stats in game, please don't post them here. No guesses or assumptions, please. For gems that can be both slot 10 or slot 11 with different cuts, please post the slot 11 cut stats.
Once the sheet is mostly filled in, I hope to make a JC calculator or assembler of some sort that lets you select a base metal and your preferred gems and cuts, then see what the final stats will look like.
And remember that since the spreadsheet is shared, any change you make is immediately visible to everyone! Please be careful about deleting cells by accident. If you want to reserve some cells for yourself, you can lock that range of cells and make a note of why you locked it.
Let me know what you think.![]()
Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
Master Artisan (300 + GM Trophy in all) of Luclin (Veeshan)
Master Fisherman (200) and possibly Drunk (2xx + 20%), not sober enough to tell!
Lightbringer, Redeemer, and Valiant servant of Erollisi Marr
Surely the stats for Ruby and Sapphire are wrong...right?
If not, I'll me making some of those pronto.
Edit: Also, check Fire Emerald. On all three, I think the 100 is probably wrong. Even with the hard caps on Mana Regen, Regen, and DS...
Last edited by Twistagain; 11-19-2007 at 12:48 PM.
The data is copied straight from Lucy. I'm guessing the code that adjusts the stats based on the metal will reduce that appropriately. That's why I asked for in-game data for the metals. If we see that Dwerium offers +100 mana regen, well ... that should be fun.![]()
Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
Master Artisan (300 + GM Trophy in all) of Luclin (Veeshan)
Master Fisherman (200) and possibly Drunk (2xx + 20%), not sober enough to tell!
Lightbringer, Redeemer, and Valiant servant of Erollisi Marr
I can't access Lucy from work, but:
I noticed from another thread that Palladium-set gems are 76% of max, and that Dwerium are 100%. If that is the case, and that the percentage is based on the metal and holds true from item-to-item, then it looks like Platinum is around 38%.
If the regen rates are 10 (instead of 100), then the Palladium value would be 7.6 (rounded to 8?) and Platinum would be 3.8 (rounded to 4?) The 4 for Platinum matches the chart entry.
Now, the Fire Emerald is a different story...and the DS is 5 for Platinum according to this chart. Odd...
Thanks, Unmei, but that info should have been in the Dwerium column. Updated it for you.
I haven't been able to make round cuts of the following gems, with and without a jeweler's glass. Anyone else able to make these? (It's also very possible that I misread the book and these can't be made as round cuts. I couldn't find the JC book to check the text.)
Amber
Bloodstone
Fire Opal
Ruby
Sapphire
Topaz
Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
Master Artisan (300 + GM Trophy in all) of Luclin (Veeshan)
Master Fisherman (200) and possibly Drunk (2xx + 20%), not sober enough to tell!
Lightbringer, Redeemer, and Valiant servant of Erollisi Marr
Your brain has performed an illegal operation and will now shut down...
Angelsyn Whitewings, Cleric of Tunare for 66!Seasons.
Grandmistress Smith - 300, Grandmistress Tailor - 300, Potter - 300, Jeweler - 300, Brewer - 200, Baker - 200, Fletcher - 200, Fisherwoman - 169
Keyne Falconer, Paladin of Erollisi Marr for 66 Seasons.
Grandmistress Baker - 300, Grandmistress Blacksmith - 300, Potter - 200, Brewer - 139, Tailor - 91
I can confirm fire emerald in slot 11 dwerium item gets +13 DS
EDIT: opal fire emerald is +13 DS, I didn't check for round fire emerald so no idea yet if it's same or not. If it is not the same, someone will have to adjust the spread sheet and insert an extra line for separate round fire emerald and oval fire emerald.
Last edited by Unapuma; 11-20-2007 at 08:50 AM.
Grolyn Blacknife
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Currently there are 4 scripts.
One that is used on the majority of items.
One that is used for the DS item.
One that is used for the two regen items.
One that is used for the worn effect items.
Each of these act a bit differently according to what they are put in (to give the resultant stats we want) and is what the DS and Regen GEMS have such huge values.
Ngreth Thergn
Ngreth nice Ogre. Ngreth not eat you. Well.... Ngreth not eat you if you still wiggle!
Grandmaster Smith 250
Master Tailor 200
Ogres not dumb - we not lose entire city to froggies
Things to check when I have time (or if someone beats me to it):
Round Cut Fire Emerald
Round Cut Star Ruby
Those are the last two listed on the sheet as having two possible cuts. If those can't be round cut, then it means each vendor-sold gem has exactly one cut, which can produce either a type 10/11 or a type 11 only aug. If that's the case, it simplifies the spreadsheet a bunch.
Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
Master Artisan (300 + GM Trophy in all) of Luclin (Veeshan)
Master Fisherman (200) and possibly Drunk (2xx + 20%), not sober enough to tell!
Lightbringer, Redeemer, and Valiant servant of Erollisi Marr
All of the store bought and dropped gems have only the single cut as listed. (This does not include Staurolite, Prestidigitase, Harmonagate, Taaffeite, which all can be cut to any of the 7 cuts)
Round Cut Tool + Gem (combine in a JC Kit)
Each has the stat listed.
All can fit type 10 and type 11.
Round Cut Malachite: svP
Round Cut Lapis Lazuli: svD
Round Cut Cat's Eye Agate: svM
Round Cut Hematite: svF
Round Cut Torquoise: svC
Round Cut Carnelian: STR
Round Cut Onyx: DEX
Round Cut Jasper: AGI
Round Cut Wolf's Eye Agate: WIS
Round Cut Jade: INT
Round Cut Star Rose Quartz: CHA
Round Cut Periodot: AC
Round Cut Opal: HP
Round Cut Emerald: mana/end
(Pearl uses the same recipe, but the name is not Round Cut)
Small Shaped Pearl: STA
Round Cut Tool + Gem + Eye Glass (combine in a JC Kit)
Each has the stat/ listed.
All can fit only in a type 11.
Half Moon Cut Goshenite: Str/Sta/Wis
Marquise Cut Alexandrite: Str. Sta/Int
Oval Cut Demantoid: Str/Sta/Chr
Oval Cut Fire Opal: Enduring Breath
Oval Cut Fire Emerald: Damage Shield
Pear Cut Rubellite: Str/Sta/Int/Wis/Agi/Dex/Chr
Pear Cut Star Ruby: Faerune
Round Cut Jacinth: Str/Sta/Dex
Round Cut Morganite: Str/Sta/Agi
Square Cut Ruby: Mana Regen
Square Cut Black Sapphire: SvM/SvF/SvC/SvP/SvD
Trilion Cut Amber: Ultravision
Trilion Cut Amethyst: SvM/SvF/SvC
Trilion Cut Bloodstone: Heat Sight
Trilion Combine Star: SvM/SvD/SvP
Trilion Cut Sapphire: Hp Regen
Trilion Cut Topaz: Shadow Sight
I have not had time to play with Nihilite. I am still working on getting enough combines to tier to on Raw Pale Nihilite, before I try combines on the other types, but I am getting close. Updates to follow.
Gorse
Oval Cut Fire Emerald: Damage Shield
Pear Cut Star Ruby: Faerune
Note: Star Ruby is 68pp and change on vendor, trivial 188. Silver bar to make a Silver Solo ring is a few gold, trivial 18. For less than 70pp you can now make Faerune rings!! WOOT. I'm making them for everyone in the guild when the servers come back up.
Gorse
Heh, make a silver trio ring and let your guildies get something in the other two slots.Shouldn't be much harder or more expensive.
Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
Master Artisan (300 + GM Trophy in all) of Luclin (Veeshan)
Master Fisherman (200) and possibly Drunk (2xx + 20%), not sober enough to tell!
Lightbringer, Redeemer, and Valiant servant of Erollisi Marr
The bagged Faerune ring is situational item mostly to keep from drowning, until their spirit tracker cloak evolves, but yes, I'll give them the trio ring and let them decide.
It was really just to state the point, Faerune, any level, under 70pp = happy players.
Gorse
I just updated the spreadsheet to eliminate some redundant columns. Now that we know that each gem can only be cut to one slot configuration, it eliminates a lot of the redundancies in the spreadsheet and makes for a cleaner, more intuitive layout.
Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
Master Artisan (300 + GM Trophy in all) of Luclin (Veeshan)
Master Fisherman (200) and possibly Drunk (2xx + 20%), not sober enough to tell!
Lightbringer, Redeemer, and Valiant servant of Erollisi Marr
i would like to say a BIG "thank u" to u KyrosKrane for getting this spreadsheet up and running so quickly.Thank u to all those who have added their 2 cents as well.I am sure many of us appreciate all the hard work involved in organising things and truly do think ur gods !!!....hehehehe Keep up the good work.....
Sparkthefire
(PS Could we add a trivial column to the spreadsheet at all?)
Last edited by sparkthefire; 11-20-2007 at 04:11 PM. Reason: added more
Thanks for the appreciation.I just want to emphasize that it's a community effort. I just set up the sheet; most of it got filled "by magic" as community members pitched in with the missing info.
And sure, the trivial column makes sense. I'll add it now.
Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
Master Artisan (300 + GM Trophy in all) of Luclin (Veeshan)
Master Fisherman (200) and possibly Drunk (2xx + 20%), not sober enough to tell!
Lightbringer, Redeemer, and Valiant servant of Erollisi Marr
I'll go add in taaffeite and staurolite trivls as I've done them all.
EDIT: that leaves most of cut harmongate and a half moon cut presti left to find trival
Last edited by Unapuma; 11-20-2007 at 10:14 PM.
Grolyn Blacknife
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I'm willing to believe that one's a typo. Fixed it.
Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
Master Artisan (300 + GM Trophy in all) of Luclin (Veeshan)
Master Fisherman (200) and possibly Drunk (2xx + 20%), not sober enough to tell!
Lightbringer, Redeemer, and Valiant servant of Erollisi Marr
The Square Cut Ruby provides Mana Regen 7 when set in a Dwerium item.
Not bad at all.
Eidolon Faer
Enchanter of the 81st Confusion, Brell Serilis / Cazic Thule
Member of Veteran Crew
Whoa, that's a fun ring. 100hp/mana and 7 mana regen. Low level casters would flip for it.![]()
Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
Master Artisan (300 + GM Trophy in all) of Luclin (Veeshan)
Master Fisherman (200) and possibly Drunk (2xx + 20%), not sober enough to tell!
Lightbringer, Redeemer, and Valiant servant of Erollisi Marr
Defiantly and with no level limit, a level 1 caster can probably solo kreshin in Gloomingdeep mine with a full set of dwerium trio gears and gems.
Grolyn Blacknife
BeastlordT:7
M:0T:6
M:1T:6
M:0Fletching:
284T:7
M:0T:6
M:0T:7
M:2Zira Blacknife
ShamanT:7
M:0Maelin Starpyre
VazaelleReiseraa
NecroResearch:
102
Wouldnt let me save changes. Shimmering Nihilite is AC 10 HP/MANA/END 250 in Dwerium.
Kekenewah Silverfire: 82 High Elf Wizard: Drinal Server salvage 3
300 Jeweler (plus 15%) & JM3, 300 Smith w/ SM3 (plus 15%), 248 brewer (plus 5%), 300 tailor (plus 15% & TM3), 200 baker, 217 Pottery (plus 5%), 200 Fisherman, 300 spell research w/ AT3 (plus 15%)
Kekema: 81 gnome magician 250 fletcher (plus 5%), 215 tinkerer (plus 5%)
Kekero: 65 dwarf rogue 300 make poison (plus 12%)
Keketrol: 74 troll shaman 300 alchemist w/ AM3 (plus 15%) salvage 3
Kekecha: 75 Erudite enchanter 122 smith (plus 5%)
Kekenebog: 59 Ogre warrior 203 blacksmith (plus 5%)
Kekera: 62 halfling ranger: 189 blacksmith (plus 5%)
Keneken: 75 dark elf necro: 112 tailor (plus 5%)
Keke 70 High Elf wizard on Mayong 300 plus 12% research with AT3