Complete Tradeskill Guide 4.0 (rev.6/2007)

[Shakespeer]

This guide is now OUTDATED. Please check the stickied guide at the top of this forum for the most recent version. -- Kyroskrane

Complete Tradeskill Guide 4.0

Well, Secone has left the building and I've spent some time updating Secone's outdated tradeskill guide with additional links, updates and alternatives to make my revision the most comprehensive skillup guide around. So, credit goes to Secone for the original guide that this is based on. EQ has changed and will continue to change and I'll keep this guide as up to date as possible.

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Enjoy this revised guide and continue using it. If you like it, feel free to Donate.



The following is a recommended path for skilling up. As with all items requiring foraging or farming, if you have the plat to buy items for sale in the Bazaar or the means to set up a Buyer toon in the bazaar, it could decrease or eliminate your farming time dramatically or even entirely. Also, use your own best judgment for your own skill up path. For example, if you're rolling in the dough and can afford to buy all your items instead of farming them, then it might be faster for you to stick to one of the higher trivial path items rather than switching from making one item to another. On the other hand, if you're strapped for plat and have all the time in the world to farm items and maybe those items just happen to drop from mobs that will yield you experience and levels, then maybe a farming route is more for you. In such cases, if farming is required, it has been noted to the best of my knowledge and personal experience. Finally, the freebie skillup Gates of Discord quests have been included for those interested in being able to self refine GoD drops.
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ARTISAN CHARM
This charm gains power as your baking, brewing, fletching, jewelry making, pottery, black smithing and tailoring skills increase.


Alchemy
Quick Trivial List
Tradeskill Trophy Quest
Alternative with +15% mod if you're in a raiding guild: Umbracite Swarm Orb (Diabo Xi Va Temariel in Vex Thal)
Alchemist Charm

0 - 54 Alchemy Freebie: Lita Hegeway
55 - 95 Effusion of E'ci IV
96 - 106 Skinspikes IV
106 - 110 Immunization IV
110 - 148 Antidote V
149 - 156 Tonic of Gelid Affinity II (cost 5.244p/combine)
157 - 164 Philter of Faerune
165 - 170 Philter of the Wolf IV (cost 4.257p/combine)
171 - 210 Philter of the Wolf V
211 - 220 Formed Suspension Of Toxin VII
221 - 228 Basic Suspension Of Slime VII
229 - 231 Formed Suspension Of Slime VII
232 - 300 Recipes using Nodding Blue Lily or Deepwater Ink

Foraged path to 255: Distillate Of Alacrity VIII - DoN Red Cups
Farmed path to 300: Distillate Of Alacrity IX - Deepwater Ink
Alternate TSS path to 262: Alchemist Ceramic Clay (involves farming medicinal moss)

Baking
Quick Trivial List
Tradeskill Trophy Quest
Baker Charm

Baking Freebie: Ordin's Tasks
0 - 135 Fish Rolls
136 - 143 Filleted Bear
144 - 191 Patty Melt
192 - 226 Halas 10lb Meat Pie
227 - 300 Misty Thicket Picnic - Shoppinglist to 100 MTP Tries.

Alternative to 242: Barbequed Crab Souffle or Barbequed Tuna Souffle - involves some fishing, farming, foraging
Alternative to 282: Jord Meat Pie - needs farming, Planar Fruit Pies - Needs foraging
Alternative to 284: Casseroles - veggie, griffon, anaconda needs farming or foraging in Jaggedpine.
Alternative to 295: Hero Sandwich - Needs a lot of farming.
Alternative to 300: Hobgoblin Surprise - Needs a lot of farming

Brewing
Quick Trivial List
Tradeskill Trophy Quest
Brewer Charm

Brewing Freebie: Work for Yitimis
0-122 Fetid Essence
123 -135 Ol'tujim's Fierce Brew
136 - 162 Jumjum Spiced Beer
163 - 187 Shar Vahl Essence (requires foraged or ground spawns)
188 - 248 Minotaur Hero's Brew
248 - 300 Kaladim Constitutional

Alternative to 188: Faydwer Shaker (all store bought items)
Alternative to 282: Fish Fungus Wine (requires fishing in Depths of Darkhollow)
Alternative to 295: Blindfish Pale Ale (requires fishing in Depths of Darkhollow)
Alternative to 300 is: Brut Champagne a bit more expensive but less farming..


Fishing
0 - 177 Fish Bones - Use Fresh Fish
178 - 200 Stand by the water and fish ... alot

List of fishing spots and to expect to catch.

Recommended: Make Anizok's Bait Dispenser (242 tinkering) or buy one to save from making multiple bait buying trips


Fletching
Quick Trivial List
Tradeskill Trophy Quest
Fletcher Charm

0 - 54 Fletching Freebie: Imildu's Tasks
55 - 68 Class 1 Bone Point Arrow
69 - 82 Class 3 Wood Point Arrow
83 - 102 Class 1 Wood Hooked Arrow
103 - 122 Class 4 Wood Point Arrow
123 - 135 Class 1 Ceramic Point Arrow
136 - 162 Class 5 Wood Point Arrow
163 - 182 Class 1 Wood Silver Tip Arrow or Serrated Arrowhead(needed later for Serrated Tip Arrow)
183 - 202 Class 6 Wood Point Arrow or Class 1 Steel Point Arrow (large Groove)
203 - 227 Class 1 Steel Discord - Serrated Tip Arrow
228 - 235 Shaped Darkwood Compound Bow
236 - 268 Flame - Ice - Shadow Tipped Acrylia Arrow
269 - 282 Rough Shadewood Compound Bow
283 - 291 Oak Treant Recurve Bow
292 - 298 Desiccated Treant Recurve Bow(involves farming and/or foraging)
299 - 300 Desiccated Treant Laminated Recurve Bow(involves farming and/or foraging)

Alternative TSS path to 262: Fletcher Ceramic Clay (involves farming Leopard Intestines)

Alternative path from 202 till 300 for Wood Elves:
Blessed Champion Arrows
Mithril Champion Arrows

Alternative path to 300 for those with Karana diety:
Blessed Guardian Arrows
Steel Guardian Arrows

Alternative to 300: Glowing Energeiac Bow and other staff and bow combines involving farmed or foraged treant branches and/or battle blades.

[Shakespeer]

Jewelcraft
Quick Trivial List
Tradeskill Trophy Quest
Jeweler Charm

0 - 54 Jewelcraft Freebie: Help Glirina
55 - 74 Electrum Malachite Bracelet
75 - 79 Electrum Turquoise Engagement Ring
80 - 84 Electrum Cat Eye Bracelet
85 - 87 Electrum Bloodstone Necklace
88 - 92 Electrum Jasper Earring
93 - 95 Electrum Carnelian Wedding Ring
96 - 98 Electrum Rose Necklace
99 - 106 Jaded Electrum Bracelet
107 - 111 Topaz Electrum Earring
112 - 114 Electrum Peridot Bracelet
115 - 119 Electrum Opal Amulet
120 - 146 Gold Malachite Bracelet
147 - 151 Gold Turquoise Engagement Ring
152 - 154 Golden Hematite Choker
155 - 159 Gold Bloodstone Necklace
160 - 162 Gold Onyx Pendant
163 - 167 Gold Carnelian Wedding Ring
168 - 170 Golden Star Amulet
171 - 178 Golden Jaded Bracelet
179 - 183 Golden Topaz Earring
184 - 186 Golden Peridot Bracelet
187 - 191 Golden Opal Amulet
192 - 196 Golden Fire Wedding Ring
197 - 199 Golden Star Ruby Ring
200 - 202 Fire Emerald Golden Bracelet
203 - 218 Platinum Malachite Ring
219 - 220 Platinum Lapis Lazuli Necklace
221 - 223 Platinum Turquoise Bracelet
224 - 226 Platinum Hematite Ring
227 - 228 Cat Eye Platinum Necklace
229 - 231 Platinum Bloodstone Earring
232 - 234 Platinum Onyx Bracelet
235 - 236 Platinum Jasper Ring
237 - 239 Platinum Carnelian Wedding Ring
240 - 242 Rose Platinum Engagement Ring
243 - 244 Platinum Amber Ring
244 - 250 Jaded Platinum Ring
251 - 252 Platinum Pearl Ring
253 - 255 Platinum Topaz Necklace
256 - 258 Platinum Peridot Ring
259 - 260 Platinum Emerald Ring
261 - 263 Platinum Opal Engagement Ring
264 - 268 Platinum Fire Wedding Ring
269 - 271 Platinum Star Ruby Veil
272 - 274 Fire Emerald Platinum Ring
275 - 279 Platinum Ruby Veil
280 - 282 Velium Ruby Veil
283 - 300 Gem Studded Chain

Alternative (TSS) to 262: Jeweler Ceramic Clay (involves farming Stonemight Silver)
Alternative from 283 to 300 is Diamond, Blue Diamond or Black Sapphire with velium bar.
Note that thise gems are dropped only.
Velium Jacinth Wedding Ring 284
Black Sapphire Platinum Necklace 284
Platinum Diamond Wedding Ring 287
Black Sapphire Velium Necklace 287
Velium Diamond Wedding Ring 290
Platinum Blue Diamond Tiara 295
Velium Amethyst Necklace 302
Velium Blue Diamond Bracelet 302
Silver Conduit Armor 303-330 using Jewelcraft items

Make Poison
Tradeskill Trophy Quest
Toxicologist Charm

0 - 54 Poisonmaking Freebie: Help Uiyaniv
55 - 98 Atrophic Sap
99 - 172 Calcium Rot
173 - 215 Metallic Alkaloid
216 - 258 Cyclic Vertigo
258 - 275 Spirit Of Sloth
276 - 300 Scoriae Bite - Soul Burn - Spine Rend - Bite Of The Shissar

Pottery
Quick Trivial List
Tradeskill Trophy Quest
Potter Charm

0 - 54 Pottery Freebie: Help Malkidiv
55 - 102 Unfired Small Bowl
103 - 122 Unfired Medium Bowl
123 - 148 Unfired Large Bowl
149 - 188 Unfired Sealed Poison Vial If you don't want to farm or bazaar shop for skins/hides, do combines with Crows Special Brew
189 - 199 Unfired Casserole Dish
200 - 216 Unfired Planar Stein
217 - 222 Unfired Opal Encrusted Stein
223 - 231 Unfired White Ceramic Band
232 - 242 Unfired Red Ceramic Band
243 - 248 Unfired Idol (Amber) - Cheapest is Imbued Amber by a Cleric/Shaman with CT deity.
249 - 255 Unfired Idol (Rose Quartz) - Cheapest is Imbued Rose Quartz by a Cleric with Erollisi Marr deity.
255 - 282 Unfired Idol (Emerald)
283 - 300 Unfired Star Ruby Encrusted Stein
Alternative to 271 Unfired Hand-formed Bottle
Alternative to 300 Unfired Spherical Bottle

Alternative to 236 Unfired Crucible of Escape (farming required)
Alternative (TSS) to 262: Potter Ceramic Clay (involves farming Vergalid Clay)
Alternative to 271 Unfired Hand-formed Bottle
Alternative to 300 Unfired Spherical Bottle


Smithing
Partial Trivial List
Quick Trivial List
Tradeskill Trophy Quest
Alternatives with +15% mod if you're in a raiding guild: Hammer of the Ironfrost from Xerkizh The Creator in Ssra or Gauntlets of Dark Embers from Kaas Thox Xi Ans Dyek in VT
Smith Charm

0 - 54 Smithing Freebie: Help Snokin
55 - 95 Banded Bracer
96 - 102 Banded Cloak
103 - 115 Banded Mail
116 - 122 Embroidering Needle Save those for next skill up path
123 - 132 Bile Spine (also requires Fetid Essence - 122 brewing item)
133 - 162 DoN Cultural Sewing kit (Different recipe per race) Look for your race here
163 - 168 Fine Plate Bracer
169 - 175 Fine Plate Gauntlets
176 - 179 Fine Plate Helm
180 - 188 Fine Plate Breastplate
189 - 210 Enchanted Velium Bits
210 - 212 Ethereal Metal Rings - Remember to use: Geerlok Automated Hammer
213 - 222 Enchanted Velium Bits
223 - 227 Aid Grimel No. 1 - Blacksmithing - Repeat Cleansed Breastplate over and over.
228 - 248 Shadowscream Steel Boots
248 - 262 Shadowscream Steel Gloves
263 - 267 Shadowscream Steel Cloak
268 - 300 Mistletoe Cutting Sickle

If you dont want to make Fine Plate, you can skip it to make Enchanted Velium Bits instead.
Alternative (TSS) to 262: Smith Ceramic Clay (involves farming Steppes Ore)
Alternative to 282: Magnetized armor.
For alternative skilling up path to 300, check out DoN Cultural smithing.
They are not all good skill up paths for every race, because of the different items needed farmed.

Alternative to 188 for those with Karana diety:
- 188 Steel Arrowheads
Alternative to 162 for Wood Elves:
- 162 Fier'dal Fletching Kit
Alternative to 295:
- 295 Tae Ew Chain Tunic/Tae Ew Chain Leggings (both tribute for over 4000)

Alternative to 300 for Dark Elves:
- Dark Prince Regent or Tier’dal Regent

Alternative to 300 for Dwarves:
- Brellium, Mischievous or Underfoot Platemail

Alternative to 300 for Ogres:
- Crimson, Fulvous, or Blackened Darkscale

Alternative to 300 for High Elves:
- Full Mithril or Blessed Full Mithril

Alternative to 300 for Humans:
- Fine, Fierce, Hateful, Luminant, Radiant, Salubrious, Thunderous, Dragonkin, or Fetid Heraldic

Spell Research
Tradeskill Trophy Quest
Researcher Charm

0 - 20 Guild Trainer.
21 - 35 Quill of the Prophet
36 - 54 Vial of Pure Water- Save all.
55 - 62 Training rune
63 - 95 Journeyman Rune
96 - 102 Oil of Vitrol - Save all.
103 - 112 LoY Swatches (Req. skill: 101)
113 - 144 Parchment Solution
145 - 174 Fine Parchment solution
175 - 203 Vellum Parchment solution
204 - 216 Fine Vellum Parchment solution
217 - 243 Runic Parchment Solution
244 - 262 Any spell thats 262 trivial
263 - 292 Any spell thats 292 trivial
293 - 300 Any spell thats 292+ trivial

Alternative (TSS) to 262: Researcher Ceramic Clay (involves farming Drake Wing Webbing)
Alternate to 300: Glowing Energeiac Rod

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Tailoring
Quick Trivial List
Tradeskill Trophy Quest
Alternative with +15% mod if you're in a raiding guild: Akhevan Shadow Shears (Shei Vinitras in Akheva Ruins)
Tailor Charm

0 - 54 Tailoring Freebie: Tonlyei's Chores
55 - 66 Woven Mandrake (keep these if you intend to continue with Picnic Basket)
67 - 76 Picnic Basket
77 - 115 Tailored Quiver
116 - 128 Wu's Fighting Collar
129 - 135 Wu's Fighting Wristbands
136 - 144 Wu's Fighting Mantle
145 - 151 Wu's Fighting Sleeves
152 - 158 Wu's Fighting Shirt
159 - 162 Golden Cyan - Indigo - White - Crimson - Grey - Blue Ribbons (Foraged/farmed components needed)
163 - 167 Golden Teal - Brown - Seagreen - Forrestgreen - Black - Beige Ribbons (Foraged/farmed components needed)
168 - 182 Platinum Cyan - Indigo - White - Crimson - Grey - Blue Ribbons (Foraged/farmed components needed)
183 - 187 Platinum Teal - Seagreen - Forestgreen - Black - Beige Ribbons (Foraged/farmed components needed)
188 - 210 Epicthieck's Power Belt then Small Epicthieck's Power Belt or try DON symbols
211 - 212 Ethereal Silk Swatch - Remember to use Geerlok Sewing Contraption
213 - 252 Epicthieck's Power Belt then Small Epicthieck's Power Belt
253 - 262 Othmir Fur Cap Othmir faction hit (see alternatives if you'd like to keep your faction)
263 - 268 Othmir Fur Moccasins or Holgresh Fur Cap
269 - 295 Othmir Fur Cloak
296 - 300 Holgresh Fur Cloak
Alternative to 190: Spider Silk Filter (farming required)
Alternative to 223-242: Acrylia Reinforced armor
Alternative to 243-252: Arctic Wyvern armor or Cobalt Drake armor
Alternative (TSS) to 262: Tailor Ceramic Clay (involves farming/foraging Spider Silk, Spiderling Silk and Wasp Spider Silk)
Alternative to 282: Holgresh Fur Moccasins
Alternative to 300: DON symbols and Bazu, Chronal or Discordant seals (involves much farming)
For additional alternative skill up paths, check out DoN Cultural tailoring.
They are not all good skill up paths for every race, because of the different items needed/farmed.

General Chart for alternative skill up paths since October 2007 patch, check out Oct 2007 Drops Skill up Chart

SILK TAILORING alternative (Oct 2007 Patch drops)

20 – 35 - Coarse silk
40 – 55 - Rough Silk
66 – 80 - Tacky Silk
90 – 106 - Sullied Silk
124 – 140 - Thick Silk
158 – 175 - Crude Silk
196 – 215 - Natural Silk
234 – 255 - Pristine Silk
272 – 295 - Fine Silk
310 – 335 - Excellent Silk
348 – 375 - Superb Silk

LEATHER TAILORING alternative (Oct 2007 Patch drops)

20 – 30 Ruined Animal Pelt
40 – 50 Mangled Pelt
66 – 75 Tattered Pelt
90 – 100 Sullied Pelt
124 – 135 Crude Pelt
158 – 170 Rough Pelt
196 – 210 Flawed Pelt
234 – 250 Pristine Pelt
272 – 290 Fine Pelt
310 – 330 Excellent Pelt
348 – 370 Superb Pelt

CULTURAL SILK TAILORING alternative (Oct 2007 Patch drops)

Simple Armor - Sullied Silk Template + Sullied Spinneret Fluid
Ornate Armor - Crude Silk Template + Crude Spinneret Fluid
Intricate Armor - Fine Silk Template + Fine Spinneret Fluid
Elaborate Armor - Superb Silk Template + Superb Spinneret Fluid

Note: Symbols use similar pattern as the smithed ones

CULTURAL LEATHER TAILORING alternative (Oct 2007 Patch drops)

Simple Armor - Sullied Leather Template + Dusty Marrow
Ornate Armor - Rough Leather Template +Damp Marrow
Intricate Armor - Fine Leather Template + Hemic Marrow
Elaborate Armor - Superb Leather Template + Excellent Marrow

Symbols - same as above

Tinkering
Tradeskill Trophy Quest
Mechanist Charm

50 - 54 Tinkering Freebie: Help Skelontorim (not really needed though since gnomes start with 50 tinkering skill)
55 - 68 Flameless Lantern
69 - 102 Stalking Probe
103 - 122 Powered Gloves
123 - 135 Tinkered Catapult (148 fletching recommended or skip)
136 - 215 Geerlok Automated Hammer or Geerlok Fermentation Device
215 - 222 Geerlok Alchemy Set
223 - 227 Geerlok Automated Pestle
228 - 233 Geerlok Automated Quill
234 - 236 Geerlok Clockwork Contraption
237 - 242 Collapsed Toolkit
243 - 248 Intricate Servolinked Armband
249 - 263 Intricate Servolinked Gloves
264 - 290 Intricate Servolinked Sleeves
291 - 300 Intricate Servolinked Greaves or Intricate Servolinked Cuirass
Alternative (TSS) to 262: Mechanic Ceramic Clay (involves farming Vergalid Slave Manacles)
Alternative to 282: Molten Metal Bow Cam - Requires a lot of farming/foraging.
Alternative to 290: Silver Conduit
Alternative to 300: Clockwork Shadowwalker/Observer armor, Wok, or Silver Conduit Armor for Gnomes

TINKERING alternative (Oct 2007 Patch drops)

Simple Servolinked -Thalium Chain Template, alkaline loam, cultural mold, brown coal, crude fortified bronze, gears, sprockets, water flask and gnomish heat source

Simple Autoactuated -Thalium plate template, Alkaline Loam, brown coal, crude fortified bronze, cultural mold, cogs, water flask, gnomish heat source and contraption parts X2

Simple Metalofiber - Sullied Silk Template, Sullied Spinneret Fluid, Thread Filament, Crude Fortified Bronze Thread, water flask, Gnomish heat source, metal fastening and gnomish pattern

Blessed Symbols - Thalium Ore, Alkaline Loam, Brown Coal, Contraption Parts, Blessed water of <name>, Blessed <item> symbol pattern

Note: From now on it looks like only the type of template, loam, coal and bronze will change. Remaining ingredients will follow Simple Cultural combines.


Ornate Servolinked - Fulginate Chain Template, Malleable Loam, Dull Black Coal, Fair fortified bronze
Ornate Autoactuated -Fulginate Plate Template, Malleable Loam, Dull Black Coal, Fair fortified bronze
Ornate Metalofiber- Crude Silk Template, Crude Spinneret Fluid, Fiber Filament, Fair fortified bronze thread

Revered Symbols - Fulginate Ore, Malleable Loam, Dull Black coal, contraption parts, blessed water of , revered symbol pattern


Intricate Servolinked - Rhenium Chain Template, Bonded Loam, Black Nitrous Coal, Malleable Fortified Bronze
Intricate Autoactuated -Rhenium Plate Template, Bonded Loam, Black Nitrous Coal, Malleable Fortified Bronze
Intricate Metalofiber - Fine Silk template, fine spinneret fluid, soft filament, Malleable fortified bronze thread

Sacred Symbols - Rhenium Ore, Bonded Loam, Black nitrous coal, contraption parts, blessed water and sacred symbol pattern

[Bonzz]

A couple of notes from a quick glance.

Magnetic (smithing) will not go to 300, high is 282 from memory.

RE: Tailoring... Epictheicks belts are listed twice in same progression.. intentional? (213 to 252 listing makes sense... listed under 188 to 210 also).

[Shakespeer]

Thanks for spotting that error in magnetic trivial. Corrected it. It's been a while since I maxed smithing and was just going from my hazy memory. Also, the switch from the power belts to ethereal silk swatches for a short break was intentional, since the corathus entrails required for initial combines aren't quite as easily acquired if farmed, even if bought with a 24/7 buyer toon.

[Latan]

for tailoring, i have been making Stitched Energeiac Cloth Cap (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=27750) / Sculpted Energeiac Leather Cowl (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=27636) for a couple days now.. the downside to this combine is there is also two checks on jewelcraft (or tinkering) at triv 223, so you'll need jewelcraft or tinkering to make the energeiac leather armors.

triv 223 for those, main cost is the sunshard pebble (bazaar) and the pure copper ignot (barren coast vendor). the helm/bracer takes 1 pebble/ignot but the sleeves and up start to use 2 , chest legs 3 i'm guessing.. so starts to cost a more with those. the sunshard pebbels are cheaper in the bazaar than the cora entrains on my server at the moment

also the helmets sell back to vendors for 154plat each so not you get to make some plat back immediately if you so choose.. i prefer that over trying to sell the stuff in bazaar.

[Bonzz]

I used Sunsahrd for skill up s for a while -- and very quikcly decidede that the chance of a skill up with them seemed significantly less that with other options.

I have a guildie that noted the same concern.

[mewkus]

For baking, Batwing Crunchies (#2127) trivial at 46 (it costs a couple plat but is faster than the freebie)
Then Fish Fillet (#2192) trivial at 82.
Both these can easily be made with PoK (and elsewhere) vendor sold stuff.

[Strokker]

My question is the tradeskill quest in abysmal sea vs normal often quicker skill ups...would you be able to do the OOW conversions that would then be needed or would you have to go to the tradeskill people in abysmal sea to get the conversions done OR if you do only one of the tradeskill quests in Abysmal sea would you then be able to do ALL the OoW conversions?

[Bonzz]

The various NPC's in AS are easy and free skill up paths.

Doing the quest allows you to refine the GoD (not OoW) Raw Materials, that you may need or can use in tradeskill paths (Jewelry especially).

This help, Strokker?

[Latan]

the skill up rate seemed fine for me making the energeiac armor. in fact for tailoring it seemed much more frequent than when i was doing othmir fur. Remember that like most things in EQ skill ups are Streaky.. you were probably in the middle of a streak that produced No skill ups when you were doing the sunshard combines.

[Ngreth Thergn]

I am curious as to why not the Crescent Reach tradeskill training quests?

It is also an option for spell research as one exists for spell research there.

[Roanne]

I am curious as to why not the Crescent Reach tradeskill training quests?

It is also an option for spell research as one exists for spell research there.

Because the zone design for Crescent Reach sucks and people hate going there. Oh, wait. Maybe its just me.

Really though. Dont the designers have some kind of "lessons learned" where they pass the knowledge of their mistakes on to future generations of designers help them not repeat them? Elevators should be mentioned.

[Bonzz]

The elevator in CR is annoying for the running back and forth to me.

Also -- do the free CR tasks allow (flag) you to refine GoD raw materials?

If not -- another reason to do the AS ones instead.

[Unapuma]

I don't like CR very much either. Far more npcs there means I'd have to memorize more of who sells what, espoecially since find featurew has never worked. With Abysmal Sea, it's easier to get around plus far less lags and no killer elevator.

[Aldier]

The benefit to the AS freebie compared to CR is the ability to refine the raw materials. I would not call AS any easier to get around than CR. You simply have to take a little time to learn the layout for EITHER zone. Also, CR offers a larger supply of materials because it has more vendors. To me that is a plus and most of the tradeskill vendors are named better, imo. (Baker for baking, Potter for pottery, etc.)

It is an alternative to consider as CR is also easier to get to at lower levels than AS.

[Bobaten]

I like CR (and had to learn vendor locations) mainly because it is the only all-in-one zone for spell research and making AAAA's. Yes, the elevator sucks, though honestly the one time I had a lag spike and fell off the boat in Abysmal was probably more annoying than every time I fell off the elevator combined.
And just in terms of low level skill ups.. the CR quests are much, much faster than the the Abysmal quests (because you can cheat and skip ahead).

[Bonzz]

We are talking about the freebie tasks here, not TS in general.

CR may have more supplies, but with the freebie tasks, the NPC GIVES you the items you need... for free.

The AS tasks flag you to refine GoD raw materials and as far as I know, the CR ones do not.

So -- choose the "faster" skill ups with no benefit in CR... or do the AS skill ups for the GoD materials flag.

[Strokker]

I am curious as to why not the Crescent Reach tradeskill training quests?

It is also an option for spell research as one exists for spell research there.

Another reason I have taken to playing on The combine server...no CR as of yet, we have heard rumors of these fantastic lands but put it down to too much down time in the local taverns....

And my earlier question was do you have to do the TS quests in abysmal sea in order to refine GoD materials, and if you do not do them then the only recourse left is to get the TS queat givers to refine them for you ...right?

[woodlin]

I would like to point out that Nodding Blue Lilies can be foraged in Dreadlands, providing an alternate foraging path to 300 for Alchemy.

[Ngreth Thergn]

And my earlier question was do you have to do the TS quests in abysmal sea in order to refine GoD materials, and if you do not do them then the only recourse left is to get the TS queat givers to refine them for you ...right?

Correct. You can just hand them the stuff and they will refine it themselves.

[Strokker]

Correct. You can just hand them the stuff and they will refine it themselves.

Thanks Boss...

[Bobaten]

Unless you are planning to refine large quantities, you are better off letting the npcs refine them.
4-5 stacks (varies) to get 2 every time
~3 more stacks before you sometimes get a third (this is when you can start to make up your deficit)
20 stacks before you always get 3
So around 10 stacks before you break even with the NPC refine.
For many of the GoD refines you won't ever need to refine enough raw materials to make up the initial deficit of doing it yourself. Though it can be useful if you "skill up" using the easily acquired drops, in order to get a better return on the KT+ drops.

[Meltheanlor]

In Regarding CR or AS. All my tradeskillers live in CR now they have made it way to convient to TS there over any where else. All the l similar vendors are grouped together and that makes it incredilbly easy to TS in CR. The Elevators really do Suck and I'll be a happy TSer when the undiscovered ramps between the levels are finally uncovered. On my old system I would spend 10 minutes or more just trying to ride an elevator up to the 2nd level for anything. My new system does not lag at all in cr thankfully but still will be estactic when there is something other than the elev to get between levels in CR. I have a Researcher and a Shammy that almost never leave CR nad my main heads there I am doing any TSing on him.

This is just my 2cp.

Meltheanlor

[GilliamII]

Small bug I found.....the Make Poison Trophy link actually points to the Pottery trophy page.