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    AAAA Shopping list

    Ok I got sick of people asking me for a list of the AAAA's so they could bring me the stuff so guess what I went out and MADE one THIS list does not take into account any failures neat info there are 2524 base items to make one of these bad boys! BRING lots of bags! clear out your bank and maybe have your guild bank on hand!

    Store bought parts
    Greasex2
    Metal Shaftx1
    Metal Fasteningx1
    Metal Rodx1
    Gearsx7
    Gnomish Boltsx1
    Mana Battery - Class Six x1
    Vegetablesx1
    Water Flaskx5
    Platinum Barx4
    Poison Vialx4
    Blue Diamondx3
    Diamondx1
    Emeraldx1
    Rubyx17
    Jar of Acidx2
    Celestial Solventx2
    The Scent of Marrx2
    Planing Toolx1
    Platinum Threadx3
    Gnomish Heat Sourcex1652
    High Quality Carbon Powderx385
    Small Brick of Refined High Quality Orex385
    Latch Moldx1
    Hinge Moldx2

    DROPPED parts
    Clockwork Gnome Boltsx5
    Clockwork Pinion Gearx7
    Clockwork Gnome Gearx2
    Clockwork Gnome Springx1
    Small Clockwork Screwsx1
    Small Clockwork Shaftx2
    Clockwork Gnome Shaftx2
    Tiny Clockwork Shaftx9
    Innovative Clockwork Gearsx1
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    Glowrockx1
    Glowstonex1
    Clockwork Gearx1
    Coiled Springx1
    Corathus Entrailsx2
    Shadowmane Peltx1
    Shiliskin Bonesx1
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    I dont want to be too critical...you put a lot of work into generating your list.

    Theoretically, Blue Diamonds, Diamonds, Gears, Rubies, Emeralds, Mana Batteries and suppose even Water Flasks and The Scent of Marr are all droppable....

    I also question why you use small bricks of refined HQ ore? I only did the maths quickly, but I am pretty sure you are paying a 50% premium and possibly doing more combines using only small bricks. If you want to be ultra picky, you would also have to do the ore quest twice to reset the vendor to get enough small bricks.

    I dont know whether it helps or not, but I make my AAAA boxes 3 at a time. The first stage is to prepare all of the blocks of steel by buying 400 large bricks of refined HQ ore, 2800 Gnomish Heat Sources and 1200 Carbon Powder. You will need to reset the vendor 4 times obviously, but the Mucktail Gnolls are very obliging with unrefined bricks. With failures this should be very close to the desired number of blocks to make 3 AAAA boxes, at an approximate steel cost of 10k plat per box.

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    Here's a list posted last year . The link in it is still active.
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    I have made tons and tons of these boxes.

    Using the large AND blocks of refined ore is the way to go. You can get 200 large bricks per vendor restock.

    Oh and for 200 large bricks you need 600 carbon powder thingies and exactly 56 stacks of GHS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Looka View Post
    I have made tons and tons of these boxes.

    Using the large AND blocks of refined ore is the way to go. You can get 200 large bricks per vendor restock.

    Oh and for 200 large bricks you need 600 carbon powder thingies and exactly 56 stacks of GHS.
    So, using the Large bricks and blocks, do you have do the combines to convert them into small, and then into steel?

    I will investigate further later, I guess.
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    steel

    Rawckett,

    There is a recipe for converting large bricks directly into steel, the process of converting blocks into large bricks requires only a chisel (blocks are a little more expensive than 2 large bricks but personally I will pay it so I only have to reset the vendor half as much).

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    If it is less clicking as well, then I am game for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tynk View Post
    Store bought parts
    Gnomish Heat Sourcex1652
    High Quality Carbon Powderx385
    Small Brick of Refined High Quality Orex385
    I believe it is only:

    381 - Small Brick of Refined High Quality Ore
    381 - High Quality Carbon Powder
    1,134 - Gnomish Heat Source

    Actually, you are going to always need 3 Small Brick of Refined High Quality Ore to make the 3 Small Piece of High Quality Steel used in the 2 High Quality Hinges and 1 High Quality Latch.

    Thus, you need either:

    378 - Small Brick of Refined High Quality Ore

    or

    126 - Large Brick of Refined High Quality Ore

    or

    63 - Block of Refined High Quality Ore

    The cost being:

    7,938 for Large
    9,545 for Blocks
    10,017 for Small
    Last edited by Rawckett; 05-04-2007 at 12:17 PM. Reason: type
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    I'm working on putting an AAAA together. I would like to do all the high quality ore combines at one sitting. The questions I have are:

    1) Does all the high quality ore get turned into blocks of high quality steel (except for the 3 small pieces mentioned earlier)?

    2) How many of each size high quality steel sheet do you need to make?

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    Assuming that you are making just one box, and that your pieces of HQ steel are coming from small bricks. All of the ore you purchase is converted to steel;

    You need 24 small plates of high quality steel (24 blocks = 72 large bricks = 72 ore)
    You need 3 plates of high quality steel (6 blocks = 18 large bricks = 18 ore)
    You need 4 large plates of high quality steel (12 blocks = 72 large bricks = 72 ore)

    You will need to reset the ore merchant twice (assuming he has none when you find him) in order to purchase 162 large bricks of unrefined HQ ore. Slightly more expensive, but you could buy small/blocks if you dont want to reset the vendor.

    These combines have about a 1% or 2% failure rate (bricks to blocks to plates) so to be safe you should probably aim for an extra 4 or 5 blocks of HQ steel.

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    I have made many 4A boxes im a lil confused though . I cant recall using gnomish bolts or greese what are they for ?

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    Grease: used to make gem cutter. Need only 1 (2 if you make cam rather than buy from vendor)

    Gnomish bolts are used in bow cam for making gem cutter, not needed if you buy the cam from vendor.

    So one time deal and as long as you keep the gem cutter, you can strike the grease and bolt off the shopping list.

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    ahhh Thank you , didnt think of that . hehe i have had the gem cutter for quite some time .

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    I actually buy all the ore off the merchant big small ugly dont matter to me!

    Then I make blocks till im so bored i cant stand it.

    reset the ore guy
    50 blocks of refined high quality refined ore 7760 pp(rounded up)
    turns into 100 bricks of high quality refined ore (50 clicks)
    turns into 100 bricks high quality steel by adding 300 GHS and 300 HQCP(100 clicks)
    turns into 33 blocks of high quality steel by adding 66 ghs and (leftover 1 large brick of HQS)(33 clicks)


    50 blocks takes 366 GHS and 300 HQCP and produces 33 blocks of high quality ore 1 large brick of high quality steel in 183 clicks) at a cost of 7760 pp+450pp(GHS rounded up),3150 pp for HQCP(rounded up) = 11360 pp to make from 50 blocks of refined high quality a quantity of 33 blocks of high quality steel.




    100 large bricks of high quality refined ore 6300 pp(rounded up)(I will edit with figures later)
    200 small bricks of high quality refined ore 5250 pp(rounded up)(I will edit with figures later)
    30 slots filled
    Last edited by tynk; 02-09-2009 at 08:50 AM.

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    Just wanted to Share a Spreadsheet that will help you track your AAAA parts/supplies inventory.

    AAAA Inventory spreadsheet

    Note: some of the formulas and formatting were not 100% because Editgrid does not support .xlsx files. Updated the .xls version

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    Last edited by Chryses; 05-28-2009 at 11:49 AM. Reason: Editgrid does not support .xlsx updated the .xls

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    21blocks of steel with out fail?

    i am more interested in the list as the result of the final combines of smithing
    feel free to edit my list

    5 poxysmith casing 1 will always be made of hq steel sheets other 4 variate upon the type of box(as also everything else does)( 4per=20)
    1 display panel (1)
    3 sheets of steel(2per 6)
    4 large sheets of steel( 3per is 12)
    and im counting 39 blocks of steel
    above someone said 63blocks of ore but the way they break down is 1block ore =2large ore , 3large steel= 1blockstelel making 63 blocks of ore only 32blocks of steel which means you need another 12blocks of ore
    again correct me if im wrong.
    Last edited by Somethingsimple; 02-15-2010 at 12:43 PM. Reason: cause i cant spell=-)

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    For AOAAs this list is the same except you need XX Opals correct? Or are there some changes to it?
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    Large Brick of HQ Steel = Large Brick of Refined HQ Ore + 6 Gnomish Heat Source + 3 HQ Carbon Powder
    Large Brick of Golden HQ Steel = Large Brick of Refined HQ Ore + 3 GHS + 3 HQCP + 3 Gold Bar
    Large Brick of Opal HQ Steel = Large Brick of Refined HQ Ore + 3 GHS + 3 HQCP + 3 Opal

    Block = 3 Large Bricks + (3 GHS for HQ Steel, or 2 GHS for Golden/Opal HQ Steel)

    Convert 42 Blocks to make the following:
    Scrindite's Mechanoinstruction Reader = 1 Poxysmit's Gearbox Casing = 4 Small HQ Steel Plates = 4 Blocks of HQ Steel (for AAAA, AGAA, AOAA)
    4 Large [Golden/Opal] Steel Plates (3 blocks per plate) = 12 Blocks
    3 [Golden/Opal] Steel Plates (2 blocks per plate) = 6 Blocks
    4 Poxysmit's [Golden/Opal] Gearbox Casing = 16 Small [Golden/Opal] Steel Plates = 16 Blocks
    3 Poxysmit's [Golden/Opal] Gearbox Top = 3 Small [Golden/Opal] Steel Plates = 3 Blocks
    1 Ambleshift's [Golden/Opal] Display Panel Front Plate = 1 Small [Golden/Opal] Steel Plate = 1 Block

    AAAA = 42 Blocks of HQ Steel + 1 Large Brick of HQ Steel (for HQ Latch and 2 HQ Hinges) = 127 Large Bricks of HQ Steel
    AGAA = 4 Blocks of HQ Steel + 1 Large Brick of HQ Steel + 38 Blocks of Golden HQ Steel = 13 Large Bricks of HQ Steel + 114 Large Bricks of Golden HQ Steel
    AOAA = 4 Blocks of HQ Steel + 1 Large Brick of HQ Steel + 38 Blocks of Opal HQ Steel = 13 Large Bricks of HQ Steel + 114 Large Bricks of Opal HQ Steel
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    AAAA Shopping list

    I was hoping for Things or The Hit List... and I got the later... and Im happy. Now it just hast to get to the point of becoming unlocked.

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    more than a hit list making a exel file with all formula you just need to enter number of wich box you want and bam create a file with full list to drop buy ; )
    would be nice if someome have that and post here )
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    Updated tynk's post for AOAAs. All numbers are what you need per box, and they do not include failed combines.

    When I make these boxes, I first convert all the HQ ore into Large Bricks: 127 Large Bricks needed per box. That number is not divisible by 3 (for making Blocks), but it's because the last Large Brick is later down-converted via Smithing Chisel to 4 Small Pieces. 127 Large Bricks per box also makes it easier for me to figure out how many boxes I can make with the ore supplies on hand.

    Gnomish Heat Source: buy 508 of these (20 stacks of 25 GHS + 1 stack of 8 GHS). 84 are used to make the 4 HQ Steel Blocks, 6 are used for the lone Large Brick of HQ Steel, and the remaining 418 are used for Opal HQ Steel Blocks.

    High Quality Carbon Powder: straightforward calculation, 3 per Large Brick, so buy 381 of these (3 stacks of 100 HQCP + 1 stack of 81 HQCP).

    Opal: for each AOAA you need 38 Blocks of Opal HQ Steel, so buy 342 of these (3 stacks of 100 Opal + 1 stack of 42 Opal).

    Combine Tools: (assuming you have already made/bought these)
    Smithing Hammer
    Smithing Chisel (convert Blocks of HQ ore to Large Bricks, and to convert 1 Large Brick of HQ Steel twice to 4 Small Pieces of HQ Steel)
    File
    Planing Tool
    Skinning Knife
    Gem Cutter

    Other storebought parts:
    • Poison Vial x 4
    • Celestial Essence x 2
    • Emerald x 1
    • Ruby x 17
    • Vegetables x 1 (or 1 each of Carrot, Lettuce, Turnip via Mixing Bowl)
    • Platinum Bar x 4
    • Water Flask x 5, plus whatever you need to convert Small Bricks of HQ ore to Large Bricks of HQ ore (conversion rate: 3 small bricks:1 flask)
    • Platinum Thread x 2
    • Gears x 6
    • Mana Battery Class Six x 1
    • Metal Shaft x 1
    • Jar of Acid x 2
    • Latch Mold x 1
    • Hinge Mold x 2


    Dropped gems:
    • Blue Diamond x 3
    • Diamond x 1


    DoDH-specific parts:
    • Corathus Entrails x 2 (see notes)
    • Shadowmane Pelt (also drops in Loping Plains)
    • Shiliskin Bones
    • 1 of each Glowgem, Glowrock, and Glowstone (also drops in Underfoot zones)


    Plane of Innovation:
    • Innovative Clockwork Gears x 1
    • Coiled Spring x 1


    SoF zones:
    (Mech Guardian's regular 6-hour instance is perfect for farming these. MG missions have limited mobs with no respawn, don't do those.)
    • Clockwork Gear x 1
    • Clockwork Gnome Bolts x 5
    • Clockwork Gnome Gear x 2
    • Clockwork Gnome Shaft x 2
    • Clockwork Gnome Spring x 1
    • Clockwork Pinion Gear x 7
    • Small Clockwork Screws x 1
    • Small Clockwork Shaft x 2
    • Tiny Clockwork Shaft x 9


    Notes:
    1. Do not underestimate the trivial skill for Epicthieck's Power Belt. The failure rate on this combine (with max Tailoring skill + max trophy + max TS AAs) is very high, honestly it makes the failure rates of UF+ cultural combines look good. Expect to use 3 Corathus Entrails per box instead of 2.
    2. If you make Blocks by stacks of 20 instead of the 127 Large Bricks above, use the following for the Gnomish Heat Source step: each HQ Steel Block requires 21 GHS; each Opal HQ Steel Block requires 11 GHS. Each Large Brick of HQ Steel requires 6 GHS.
    3. 4 Small Pieces of HQ Steel = 1 HQ Latch + 2 HQ Hinges, with one left over in the case of combine failure on this step.
    4. Mucktail Gnolls are nice and easy for Unrefined ore bricks, alternatively you can get them from any gnoll in Blackburrow (SoD), with Chronal Dusts being the bonus to farming there.
    5. Like the Power Belt, you can fail on the final combine on making the box itself. The good news is it's a lot less often than the Belt. The bad news? If the RNG hates you, that's a lot of cash down the drain.
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