This is my run from 190-250 in tailoring including success rates. I am posting this, as some others have, to in a small way give back to this community that helped me so much with trade-skills. I hope the information below is helpful to some people in analysis of trade-skills or in deciding whether or not to pursue tailoring. This was post-patch that “made skill-ups slightly easier.” The runs are listed as I did them—I usually only did combines when I had a stack of combines to do. Prior to this I used the following progression to skill-up: silk swatch to 15, patchwork armor to 26, raw silk to 36, cured silk to 82, tailored quivers to 115 (this was when that was the highest you could go in tailoring), crystalline silk to131, wu’s to 158, and then a combination of acrylia studded, acrylia reinforced, and basic vale tailoring to 190 (I forgot I got one skill-up on a fleeting quiver combine out of a few I did for people). I was fortunate to be a halfling and have an extra option for combines but did not use it for most of my run as you will see as I had a good supply of other items for combines. I had spent the mid 50’s xp-ing in cobalt scar as did two guildie friends so I had about 700 arctic wyvern hides and about 350 cobalt cod saved up. I had only about 350 stackable velium however so I initially tried to farm these but found the drop rate far to low so I bought most of the velium in the bazaar. I also experimented with making the coldain tempers and certainly a lot of money could be saved on these—to buy them at the vendor costs 525pp a stack at max faction/cha, to make them with store bought spell components costs about 200pp a stack and of course would be even cheaper if you were combining spell components as you got them as drops. However, for me the amount of time spent to make them was far too long when I could be making most of the difference in pp back at the same time as xp-ing. Tailoring is very expensive in one way or another—either plat to buy components or time to farm them. The method I used was a combination of both and I had friends who helped out greatly. More analysis and discussion of cost will follow below. All combines were done at 252 wis with a geerlock (just what my particular set-up of equipment was with switching epic out for geerlock).
Combines at skill 190:
2 of 2 imbued vale reinforced boots
18 of 22 vale reinforced bracer
3 of 16 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
191:
1 of 4 studded arctic wyvern masks
2 of 4 acrylia reinforced bracer
4 of 4 imbued vale reinforced boots
4 of 4 vale reinforced bracer
Skill-up on success
192:
11 of 14 vale reinforced bracer
0 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
1 of 11 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
193:
0 of 9 studded arctic wyvern masks
0 of 4 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
194:
0 of 16 studded arctic wyvern masks
0 of 5 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
195:
1 of 5 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
196:
0 of 10 studded arctic wyvern masks
1 of 7 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
197:
3 of 13 studded arctic wyvern masks
3 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
1 of 9 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
198:
1 of 6 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
199:
1 of 5 studded arctic wyvern masks
3 of 14 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
200:
0 of 6 studded arctic wyvern masks
4 of 17 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up in success
201:
1 of 3 studded arctic wyvern masks
0 of 3 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
202:
3 of 17 studded arctic wyvern masks
4 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
2 of 17 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
203:
3 of 3 studded arctic wyvern masks
1 of 14 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
204:
1 of 6 studded arctic wyvern masks
2 of 7 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
205:
1 of 13 studded arctic wyvern masks
2 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
5 of 8 imbued vale reinforced boots
9 of 10 vale reinforced bracer
Skill-up on success
206:
1 of 2 vale reinforced bracer
1 of 19 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
207:
0 of 1 studded arctic wyvern masks
6 of 18 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
208:
0 of 2 studded arctic wyvern masks
1 of 4 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
209:
6 of 16 studded arctic wyvern masks
1 of 16 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
210:
7 of 7 ethereal silk swatches
Skill-up on success
211:
2 of 2 ethereal silk swatches
Skill-up on success
212:
1 of 1 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
213:
1 of 2 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
214:
0 of 1 studded arctic wyvern masks
2 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
6 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
6 of 17 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
215:
0 of 3 studded arctic wyvern masks
5 of 18 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
216:
1 of 2 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
217:
6 of 19 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
218:
1 of 1 studded arctic wyvern masks
2 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
8 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
1 of 3 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
219:
2 of 12 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
220:
2 of 5 studded arctic wyvern masks
6 of 6 imbued vale reinforced boots
Skill-up on success
221:
14 o 14 imbued vale reinforced boots
4 of 9 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
222:
1 of 2 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
223:
5 of 9 studded arctic wyvern masks
3 of 4 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
224:
1 of 2 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
225:
5 of 14 studded arctic wyvern masks
6 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
8 of 8 otter fur cap
Skill-up on success
226:
4 of 4 otter fur cap
Skill-up on success
227:
7 of 8 otter fur cap
6 of 6 otter fur cap
Skill-up on success
228:
2 of 2 otter fur cap
Skill-up on success
229:
11 of 12 otter fur cap
19 of 19 otter fur cap
1 of 1 acrylia reinforced bracer
Skill-up on success
230:
6 of 6 acrylia reinforced bracer
Skill-up on success
231:
4 of 4 acrylia reinforced bracer
13 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
6 of 8 acrylia reinforced bracer
Skill-up on success
232:
7 of 8 otter fur cap
Skill-up on success
233:
3 of 3 otter fur cap
Skill-up on success
234:
9 of 9 otter fur cap
7 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
3 of 5 reinforced cobalt drake belt
Skill-up on success
235:
1 of 1 reinforced cobalt drake belt
0 of 1 studded tigeraptor cloak
4 of 6 ceremonial solstice robe
10 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
5 of 10 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
236:
4 of 6 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
237:
0 of 4 studded arctic wyvern masks
12 of 13 otter fur cap
Skill-up on success
238:
7 of 7 otter fur cap
5 of 5 otter fur cap
Skill-up on success
239:
10 of 10 otter fur cap
5 of 5 acrylia reinforced bracer
Skill-up on success
240:
8 of 8 acrylia reinforced bracer
Skill-up on success
241:
3 of 3 acrylia reinforced bracer
Skill-up on success
242:
7 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
0 of 2 stormreaper steelweave bracer
2 of 2 stormreaper steelweave bracer
2 of 6 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
243:
7 of 14 studded arctic wyvern masks
0 of 1 reinforced cobalt drake belt
Skill-up on failure
244:
4 of 8 reinforced cobalt drake belt
Skill-up on failure
245:
1 of 1 reinforced cobalt drake belt
4 of 7 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
246:
4 of 8 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
247:
2 of 4 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
248:
0 of 1 studded arctic wyvern masks
9 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
4 of 8 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
249:
1 of 2 studded arctic wyvern masks
4 of 8 studded arctic wyvern masks
4 of 6 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
250!!!!!!
Summary of Combines:
214 of 861 studded arctic wyvern masks
31 of 34 imbued vale reinforced boots
43 of 52 vale reinforced bracer
9 of 9 ethereal silk swatches
110 of 114 otter fur cap
29 of 31 acrylia reinforced bracer
9 of 16 reinforced cobalt drake belt
0 of 1 studded tigeraptor cloak
4 of 6 ceremonial solstice robe
2 of 4 stormreaper steelweave bracer
Total combines=1128
Average number of combines per skill up=18.8
Longest run without a skill-up=58
Hard to analyze the significance of skill-ups on successes versus failures though I may look at this more in depth later.
Summary of Costs:
studded arctic wyvern masks
--Hides got about 700 myself or from friends bought about 161 at 10pp each though going rate on Xegony is about 20pp in bazaar=1610pp
--Velium (you need 6 stackable velium to make two studs) I was given or got about 350 stackable and bought the remaining 2233 at about 20pp each=44660pp (this is pretty close to accurate as I bought them at varying prices and kept loose track of pp spent on velium and had a figure of 42546 in my records)
--Cod I either fished myself or got from friends but did buy some at about 20pp per oil=2500pp
--Coldain Tempers I bought almost all of these at about 26pp each and each stud takes 2 tempers=44772pp
Vale armor
High quality brute hides bought at about 50pp each they used to be about 10pp each in the Dreadlands but when the high end tailoring was introduced for halflings these went up since they are used in those as well and are a small piece of the price=4300pp
Misty acorns were collected by myself or bought from others initially at 5pp each but later at 10pp each for ease I will figure at 5ppp each (btw these are way too rare a forage and ground spawn)=430pp
Ethereal silk swatches
Strands of ether bought for 10pp each from players though going rate is often more and takes two per combine=180pp
Ethereal curing agent bought from players as it is a high end brewed item at 35pp each though it goes for up to 50pp each=315pp
Otter fur cap
Otter fur bought from players for between 35pp and 60pp each and each combine takes two came to about=11400pp
Silver thread=150pp
Acrylia reinforced bracer
Flawless rockhopper hides go for about 100-150pp most I was given be friends but bought some guessing=1500pp
Small acrylia bricks go for about 70-100pp though again I was given most so I would guess=1000pp
Reinforced cobalt drake belt
Cobalt drake hides are about 100pp but I got these myself
Small bricks of velium to make velium boning and each belt takes two at about 50pp each=1600pp
Coldain tempers one for each boning=1612pp
Studded tigeraptor cloak
Tigeraptor hide was given to me but they go for about 100pp
Velium for stud=60pp
Coldain temper=52pp
Ceremonial Solstice robe
Gem studded chain three of these were for another person and one was mine can’t recall how much it cost me but I had it made for me though they sell in bazaar for about 1000pp but since I had it made=500pp
Rest of components in this case were given to me though getting silks and imbued emeralds could certainly entail significant cost if you use this route to skill up
Stormreaper steelweave bracer
High quality brute hides=200pp
Misty acorns=20pp
Blue Diamonds go for 500-1000pp in bazaar but can easily be bought in the 500-600pp range=2200pp
Total cost=119,061pp estimated for 190-250
This cost analysis ignores failures on component combines (wow I hate the velium stud combine where you combine 3 velium bits to make two studs as if you fail you loose 6 stackable velium whereas the combines to make the velium bits you only loose 2 and with the tempers it is a costly failure. I had 175 smithing for all of this but failed slightly more than I would have thought to be the 5% failure rate on velium studs). So you could probably add 5% to total cost. I also ignored small things like patterns or regular metal bonings for vale tailoring, etc. If I had not saved up 700 arctic wyvern hides, 350 stackable velium, and 350 cobalt cod and if I hadn’t fished the other cod you could add a lot to this cost. Obviously tailoring is a huge investment of time and money. I hope that this information is helpful to some people out there.
Gailen
60th Druid of Karana
Guildleader One Hundred Swords
Grandmaster Tailor
Combines at skill 190:
2 of 2 imbued vale reinforced boots
18 of 22 vale reinforced bracer
3 of 16 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
191:
1 of 4 studded arctic wyvern masks
2 of 4 acrylia reinforced bracer
4 of 4 imbued vale reinforced boots
4 of 4 vale reinforced bracer
Skill-up on success
192:
11 of 14 vale reinforced bracer
0 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
1 of 11 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
193:
0 of 9 studded arctic wyvern masks
0 of 4 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
194:
0 of 16 studded arctic wyvern masks
0 of 5 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
195:
1 of 5 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
196:
0 of 10 studded arctic wyvern masks
1 of 7 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
197:
3 of 13 studded arctic wyvern masks
3 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
1 of 9 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
198:
1 of 6 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
199:
1 of 5 studded arctic wyvern masks
3 of 14 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
200:
0 of 6 studded arctic wyvern masks
4 of 17 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up in success
201:
1 of 3 studded arctic wyvern masks
0 of 3 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
202:
3 of 17 studded arctic wyvern masks
4 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
2 of 17 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
203:
3 of 3 studded arctic wyvern masks
1 of 14 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
204:
1 of 6 studded arctic wyvern masks
2 of 7 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
205:
1 of 13 studded arctic wyvern masks
2 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
5 of 8 imbued vale reinforced boots
9 of 10 vale reinforced bracer
Skill-up on success
206:
1 of 2 vale reinforced bracer
1 of 19 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
207:
0 of 1 studded arctic wyvern masks
6 of 18 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
208:
0 of 2 studded arctic wyvern masks
1 of 4 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
209:
6 of 16 studded arctic wyvern masks
1 of 16 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
210:
7 of 7 ethereal silk swatches
Skill-up on success
211:
2 of 2 ethereal silk swatches
Skill-up on success
212:
1 of 1 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
213:
1 of 2 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
214:
0 of 1 studded arctic wyvern masks
2 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
6 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
6 of 17 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
215:
0 of 3 studded arctic wyvern masks
5 of 18 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
216:
1 of 2 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
217:
6 of 19 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
218:
1 of 1 studded arctic wyvern masks
2 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
8 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
1 of 3 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
219:
2 of 12 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
220:
2 of 5 studded arctic wyvern masks
6 of 6 imbued vale reinforced boots
Skill-up on success
221:
14 o 14 imbued vale reinforced boots
4 of 9 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
222:
1 of 2 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
223:
5 of 9 studded arctic wyvern masks
3 of 4 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
224:
1 of 2 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
225:
5 of 14 studded arctic wyvern masks
6 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
8 of 8 otter fur cap
Skill-up on success
226:
4 of 4 otter fur cap
Skill-up on success
227:
7 of 8 otter fur cap
6 of 6 otter fur cap
Skill-up on success
228:
2 of 2 otter fur cap
Skill-up on success
229:
11 of 12 otter fur cap
19 of 19 otter fur cap
1 of 1 acrylia reinforced bracer
Skill-up on success
230:
6 of 6 acrylia reinforced bracer
Skill-up on success
231:
4 of 4 acrylia reinforced bracer
13 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
6 of 8 acrylia reinforced bracer
Skill-up on success
232:
7 of 8 otter fur cap
Skill-up on success
233:
3 of 3 otter fur cap
Skill-up on success
234:
9 of 9 otter fur cap
7 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
3 of 5 reinforced cobalt drake belt
Skill-up on success
235:
1 of 1 reinforced cobalt drake belt
0 of 1 studded tigeraptor cloak
4 of 6 ceremonial solstice robe
10 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
5 of 10 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
236:
4 of 6 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
237:
0 of 4 studded arctic wyvern masks
12 of 13 otter fur cap
Skill-up on success
238:
7 of 7 otter fur cap
5 of 5 otter fur cap
Skill-up on success
239:
10 of 10 otter fur cap
5 of 5 acrylia reinforced bracer
Skill-up on success
240:
8 of 8 acrylia reinforced bracer
Skill-up on success
241:
3 of 3 acrylia reinforced bracer
Skill-up on success
242:
7 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
0 of 2 stormreaper steelweave bracer
2 of 2 stormreaper steelweave bracer
2 of 6 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
243:
7 of 14 studded arctic wyvern masks
0 of 1 reinforced cobalt drake belt
Skill-up on failure
244:
4 of 8 reinforced cobalt drake belt
Skill-up on failure
245:
1 of 1 reinforced cobalt drake belt
4 of 7 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
246:
4 of 8 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
247:
2 of 4 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
248:
0 of 1 studded arctic wyvern masks
9 of 20 studded arctic wyvern masks
4 of 8 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on failure
249:
1 of 2 studded arctic wyvern masks
4 of 8 studded arctic wyvern masks
4 of 6 studded arctic wyvern masks
Skill-up on success
250!!!!!!
Summary of Combines:
214 of 861 studded arctic wyvern masks
31 of 34 imbued vale reinforced boots
43 of 52 vale reinforced bracer
9 of 9 ethereal silk swatches
110 of 114 otter fur cap
29 of 31 acrylia reinforced bracer
9 of 16 reinforced cobalt drake belt
0 of 1 studded tigeraptor cloak
4 of 6 ceremonial solstice robe
2 of 4 stormreaper steelweave bracer
Total combines=1128
Average number of combines per skill up=18.8
Longest run without a skill-up=58
Hard to analyze the significance of skill-ups on successes versus failures though I may look at this more in depth later.
Summary of Costs:
studded arctic wyvern masks
--Hides got about 700 myself or from friends bought about 161 at 10pp each though going rate on Xegony is about 20pp in bazaar=1610pp
--Velium (you need 6 stackable velium to make two studs) I was given or got about 350 stackable and bought the remaining 2233 at about 20pp each=44660pp (this is pretty close to accurate as I bought them at varying prices and kept loose track of pp spent on velium and had a figure of 42546 in my records)
--Cod I either fished myself or got from friends but did buy some at about 20pp per oil=2500pp
--Coldain Tempers I bought almost all of these at about 26pp each and each stud takes 2 tempers=44772pp
Vale armor
High quality brute hides bought at about 50pp each they used to be about 10pp each in the Dreadlands but when the high end tailoring was introduced for halflings these went up since they are used in those as well and are a small piece of the price=4300pp
Misty acorns were collected by myself or bought from others initially at 5pp each but later at 10pp each for ease I will figure at 5ppp each (btw these are way too rare a forage and ground spawn)=430pp
Ethereal silk swatches
Strands of ether bought for 10pp each from players though going rate is often more and takes two per combine=180pp
Ethereal curing agent bought from players as it is a high end brewed item at 35pp each though it goes for up to 50pp each=315pp
Otter fur cap
Otter fur bought from players for between 35pp and 60pp each and each combine takes two came to about=11400pp
Silver thread=150pp
Acrylia reinforced bracer
Flawless rockhopper hides go for about 100-150pp most I was given be friends but bought some guessing=1500pp
Small acrylia bricks go for about 70-100pp though again I was given most so I would guess=1000pp
Reinforced cobalt drake belt
Cobalt drake hides are about 100pp but I got these myself
Small bricks of velium to make velium boning and each belt takes two at about 50pp each=1600pp
Coldain tempers one for each boning=1612pp
Studded tigeraptor cloak
Tigeraptor hide was given to me but they go for about 100pp
Velium for stud=60pp
Coldain temper=52pp
Ceremonial Solstice robe
Gem studded chain three of these were for another person and one was mine can’t recall how much it cost me but I had it made for me though they sell in bazaar for about 1000pp but since I had it made=500pp
Rest of components in this case were given to me though getting silks and imbued emeralds could certainly entail significant cost if you use this route to skill up
Stormreaper steelweave bracer
High quality brute hides=200pp
Misty acorns=20pp
Blue Diamonds go for 500-1000pp in bazaar but can easily be bought in the 500-600pp range=2200pp
Total cost=119,061pp estimated for 190-250
This cost analysis ignores failures on component combines (wow I hate the velium stud combine where you combine 3 velium bits to make two studs as if you fail you loose 6 stackable velium whereas the combines to make the velium bits you only loose 2 and with the tempers it is a costly failure. I had 175 smithing for all of this but failed slightly more than I would have thought to be the 5% failure rate on velium studs). So you could probably add 5% to total cost. I also ignored small things like patterns or regular metal bonings for vale tailoring, etc. If I had not saved up 700 arctic wyvern hides, 350 stackable velium, and 350 cobalt cod and if I hadn’t fished the other cod you could add a lot to this cost. Obviously tailoring is a huge investment of time and money. I hope that this information is helpful to some people out there.
Gailen
60th Druid of Karana
Guildleader One Hundred Swords
Grandmaster Tailor
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