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    More DNC spells

    Spell: Minor Conjuration - Water (Level 31 Spell) DNC
    Quill of the Arch Convoker
    Conjuring Thickener
    Ink of the Nameless
    Ink of the Companion
    Ink of E'ci (Water Pet)
    Cleaned Runic Hide (Level 31 spell hide)

    Spell: Minor Conjuration - Earth (Level 34 Spell) DNC
    Quill of the Arch Convoker
    Conjuring Thickener
    Ink of the Nameless
    Ink of the Companion
    Ink of the Rathe (Earth Pet)
    Pristine Runic Hide (Level 34 Spell Hide)

    Spell: Minor Conjuration - Fire (Level 32 Spell) Successful Combine
    Quill of the Arch Convoker
    Conjuring Thickener
    Ink of the Nameless
    Ink of the Companion
    Ink of Ro
    Prepared Runic Hide

    This site says all the Minor Conjuration pet spells are all level 34. The Fire one is a level 32 spell. I even tried the water pet with a level 34 hide (Pristine Runic Hide) just in case and still DNC.

    Now I don't think these are quested so that excuse is out, and the level path of the mage pet spells is Water, Fire, Air, then Earth. The hide list in this forum has been right so far including the Fire pet so I shouldn't be using the wrong hides. I just swapped out the Ink of Ro and the Prepared Runic Hide for the appropriate ink and hide for the pet and level of the spell.

    I think someone at SoE needs to get a dictionary and look up 'Systematic'.
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  • #2
    You forgot to add Malachite in with the combine. All pet spells require malachite as a component, except pop pets iirc.

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    • #3
      I think you mean when casting them. I did make the fire pet and quite a few of the lower level pets and didn't use the malachite.

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      • #4
        Pet spells are supposed to use the reagent in the spell recipe to make the spell. With a few thousand spells there are bound to be a few mistakes.

        Try adding the malachite to the DNC recipes as suggested and see if they work properly.



        Gorse

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        • #5
          those two spells did not have a research-able version before the revamp. I did not add any spells that were not previously done.
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          • #6
            BTW mage spells have never used Malachite, they do however use an additional ink to distinguish the pet type though.

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            • #7
              Before the spell progression was smoothed out so that you got at least 1 spell or ability per level, they may have all been 34, and nobody ever submitted new info saying they had changed levels if they have. It looks like both of the DNC spells are on several merchants (all appear to sell both spells), so just providing 1 link to the merchant list: http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_...r=035000000000
              Last edited by Prexis; 12-22-2007, 09:27 PM.
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            • #8
              I updated the levels on the spells.
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              • #9
                Originally posted by Ngreth Thergn View Post
                those two spells did not have a research-able version before the revamp. I did not add any spells that were not previously done.
                So, what you are saying is: If it was researchable before then it should be researchable now. If it was not researchable before then it is not researchable now. That being the case, thank you for all you do do!! <smile>

                Jonan

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                • #10
                  Non-Researchable Legacy Spells

                  First off, this is not a complaint, I'm quite happy with the new systematic spell research system and the time that the developers (especially Ngreth) have put into implementing it.

                  However, although most of the spells are researchable, there are still a handful of low level spells (quest spells, ancients, etc from very old expansions) that I think it would be nice if they were researchable.

                  For example, the following level 60 and below spells for enchanters are not researchable:

                  Illusion: Iksar (Quest, Kunark)
                  Leviathan Eyes (Quest, LoY)
                  Illusion: Guktan (Quest, Kunark)
                  Scryer's Trespass (Quest, LoY)
                  Beguiler's Aura (Quest, Prophecy of Ro)
                  Ancient: Chaotic Visions (VT Drop, Luclin)
                  Ancient: Eternal Rapture (VT Drop, Luclin)

                  Now, I can see leaving the Aura spell from PoR alone, as it's relatively new (only 3 expansions old). However, considering that the rest of these spells were introduced into the game 4+ years ago and 8+ expansions ago, wouldn't it make sense, from a lore standpoint at least, that the "mystery" of these spells has been unravelled and that skilled researchers would be able to produce them? Even the once powerful ancients should have been reverse engineered by prominent researchers by now.

                  I'll concede that although I'm quite interested in building a full spellbook for my enchanter, I'm too lazy to go out and do the quests for these spells (with the exception of the aura, and I'm not even looking at all the necessary stuff for getting into VT for the ancients). However, I think it makes sense from an in-game history/lore and game mechanics standpoint to allow legacy spells that were once only available via quest or drops to be researchable now.

                  I dare say that even DoN vendor buyable spells (not progression rewards though) and ancients up to OoW/DoD should be researchable as well.

                  Just a thought. Take it as you will.
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                  • #11
                    None of these spells are "required" and most have upgrades more easily obtained.

                    My philosophy, however, is if the players want them for a full spell book, whats the harm in giving it to them?

                    For some reason ancient spells have been the sacred cow of spell research, so I wouldnt expect them at least until the devs are looking for a new gimmick to tag onto something you pay for. Probably the same for quested spells, but more likely dev-time will not be spent on modernizing old content. They dont have enough time to get the current stuff right, I wouldnt like seeing them bugging old stuff too.
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                    • #12
                      Wake of Karana - DNC

                      Fine runic spell scroll
                      ink additive of the nameless
                      ink of rainbows
                      invigorating thickener
                      quill of the storm warden


                      Draught of Jiva - Successful

                      Arcane thickener
                      Fine runic spell scroll
                      ink of marr
                      ink of pain
                      luclin's ink additive
                      quill of the arcanist

                      Trivial: 171

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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by Corinne View Post
                        Wake of Karana - DNC

                        Fine runic spell scroll
                        ink additive of the nameless
                        ink of rainbows
                        invigorating thickener
                        quill of the storm warden
                        Wake of Karana is lvl 56. Fine Runic Spell Scoll is lvl 55. Rough Papyrus is lvl 56. I know the website says Fine Runic Spell Scoll. But that could be the problem there.

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                        • #14
                          Draught of Jiva - Updated, complete.

                          Wake of Karana - papyrus updated.

                          I still have no clue as to its true recipe.
                          I believe I've tried every combination of:

                          Quill of the Storm Warden (constant)
                          Rough Papyrus (constant)
                          +
                          Ink of the Eagle (variable)
                          Ink of the Nameless (var.)
                          Ink of Rainbows (var.)
                          Ink of E'ci (var.)
                          Ink of Xegony (var.)
                          +
                          (1) each thickeners
                          +
                          Ink Additive of Nameless / or Luclin's Ink Additive
                          +
                          1 Opal (consumed)

                          Looking for help, I'm sure I'm missing something obvious.
                          Last edited by hangovr; 01-02-2008, 10:58 PM.
                          Hangovr Regrets

                          The Nameless

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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by hangovr View Post
                            Wake of Karana - papyrus updated.

                            I still have no clue as to its true recipe.
                            I believe I've tried every combination of:

                            Quill of the Storm Warden (constant)
                            Rough Papyrus (constant)
                            +
                            Ink of the Eagle (variable)
                            Ink of the Nameless (var.)
                            Ink of Rainbows (var.)
                            Ink of E'ci (var.)
                            Ink of Xegony (var.)
                            +
                            (1) each thickeners
                            +
                            Ink Additive of Nameless / or Luclin's Ink Additive
                            +
                            1 Opal (consumed)

                            Looking for help, I'm sure I'm missing something obvious.
                            Ink Additive of Nameless , Arcane Thinckener and Ink of Rainbows.

                            This is just one spells that dont fit neatly into any category ...

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