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I did not see the traps spells on the LDoN list. Will the LDoN spells series for Iony's, Reebo's, Wuggan's, and Xalirilan's be researchable too?Last edited by Frontallobe; 09-18-2006, 02:41 PM.
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Maybe some day. and at that point a decision will have to be made about how to handle the rare spells.
I will probably NOT make vendor purchase spells.
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I doubt it. Specifically because RGC was not included in the new LDoN recipes. (noone is surprised at this)
The research system from DoDH and TSS effectively lets you make every spell since the only components that vary are the inks/quills that are used (besides the parchment which determines level of course).
With the old style system, a spell that is desired to be rare can continue to be rare even though it is available via research by making at least one of the words for the spell to be rare.
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There are many many storebought spells from 1 to 50 ... and not nearly as many researched spells. Are they planning on making storebought spells researchable as well? If not, why bother with "parchments" for every level from 1 to 50?
Are old style research combines being moved to the new system?
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There is a new book that explains the recipes for the new solutions.
Well 3 to be more specific.
One for Hides
One for the new solution from 50-60, and 66-70
One for made summon items spells
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That's actually good in a way. Skill up on the solutions, and sell the OoW ones in the Bazaar.
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OoW solutions are made the same way the PoP solutions are (though I don't remember the exact recipes, just assume more expensive gem/metal combinations). The trivial was left at 243 for all of them (so there would be no path to 300 without actually making spells).
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I believe that there are five new cleaning solutions that all trivial at 243. I don't personally know this, though, and I don't remember how I came to that conclusion, so...
Grain of salt.
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so, with a fewe exceptions where more than one class gets the same spell:
this should be the list of hides required for each spell 1-49:
1 Stiff Hide
2 Cleaned Stiff Hide
3 Prepared Stiff Hide
4 Smooth Stiff Hide
5 Crude Hide
6 Cleaned Crude Hide
7 Prepared Crude Hide
8 Smooth Crude Hide
9 Pristine Crude Hide
10 Rough Hide
11 Cleaned Rough Hide
12 Prepared Rough Hide
13 Smooth Rough Hide
14 Pristine Rough Hide
15 Hide
16 Cleaned Hide
17 Prepared Hide
18 Smooth Hide
19 Pristine Hide
20 Fine Hide
21 Cleaned Fine Hide
22 Prepared Fine Hide
23 Smooth Fine Hide
24 Pristine Fine Hide
25 Supple Hide
26 Cleaned Supple Hide
27 Prepared Supple Hide
28 Smooth Supple Hide
29 Pristine Supple Hide
30 Runic Hide
31 Cleaned Runic Hide
32 Prepared Runic Hide
33 Smooth Runic Hide
34 Pristine Runic Hide
35 Fine Runic Hide
36 Cleaned Fine Runic Hide
37 Prepared Fine Runic Hide
38 Smooth Fine Runic Hide
39 Pristine Fine Runic Hide
40 Supple Runic Hide
41 Cleaned Supple Runic Hide
42 Prepared Supple Runic Hide
43 Smooth Supple Runic Hide
44 Pristine Supple Runic Hide
45 Fine Supple Runic Hide
46 Cleaned Fine Supple Runic Hide
47 Prepared Fine Supple Runic Hide
48 Smooth Fine Supple Runic Hide
49 Pristine Fine Supple Runic Hide
for 50+ LDON spells:
50 Crude Spell Scroll
51 Rough Spell Scroll
52 Spell Scroll
53 Fine Spell Scroll
54 Runic Spell Scroll
55 Fine Runic Spell Scroll
56 Rough Papyrus
57 Papyrus
58 Fine Papyrus
59 Runic Papyrus
60 Fine Runic Papyrus
61 Parchment
62 Fine Parchment
63 Vellum Parchment
64 Fine Vellum Parchement
65 Runic Parchment
For OoW spells (the ones that are obtained from rune turn-ins):
66 Fine Runic Parchment
67 Vellum
68 Fine Vellum
60 Runic Vellum
70 Fine Runic Vellum
Oh yes...for future use:
71 Rough Paper
72 Paper
73 Fine Paper
74 Runic Paper
75 Fine RunicLast edited by Maevenniia; 02-22-2008, 06:51 PM.
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From the book "Systematic Spell Research Ammendum: Paper"
Crude Spell Scroll (lvl 50)
Rough Spell Scroll (lvl 51)
Spell Scroll (lvl 52)
Fine Spell Scroll (lvl 53)
Runic Spell Scroll (lvl 54)
Fine Runic Spell Scroll (lvl 55)
Rough Papyrus (lvl 56)
Papyrus (lvl 57)
Fine Papyrus (lvl 58)
Runic Papyrus (lvl 59)
Fine Runic Papyrus (lvl 60)
61-65 spells:
Parchment (lvl 61)
Fine Parchment (lvl 62)
Vellum Parchment (lvl 63)
Fine Vellum Parchment (lvl 64)
Runic Parchment (lvl 65)
and for OoW spells:
"The following continue from where the five outlined in the previous books ended"
Fine Runic Parchment (lvl 66)
Vellum (lvl 67)
Fine Vellum (lvl 68)
Runic Vellum (lvl 69)
Fine Runic Vellum (lvl 70)
There are new Solutions, using the oils and acids we already know how to make, to clean the papers, all trivial at 243.Last edited by Maevenniia; 02-22-2008, 06:48 PM.
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Here's a list of LDON spells, from lvl 9 to 65, a 56 lvl spread. Level is in ( ).
Bard
Rizlona's Embers (45)
Call of the Muse (65)
Rizlona's Fire (53)
Selo's Rhythm of Speed (25)
Fufil's Diminishing Dirge (60)
Beastlord
Spirit of the Shrew (39)
Guard of Calliav (58)
Pack Shrew (44)
Ward of Calliav (49)
Protection of Calliav (64)
Cleric
Bulwark of Vie (62)
Remove Minor Curse (8)
Guard of Vie (40)
Aura of Reverence (64)
Remove Lesser Curse (23)
Remove Curse (38)
Ward of Vie (20)
Remove Greater Curse (no recipe for this, recipe already exists - see LoY research)
Protection of Vie (54)
Blessing of Temperance (45)
Druid
Remove Lesser Curse (23)
Vengeance of Nature (55)
Pack Shrew (35)
Feral Pack (52)
Remove Curse (38)
Vengeance of the Wild (49)
Spirit of the Shrew (30)
Remove Greater Curse (no recipe for this, recipe already exists - see LoY research)
Vengeance of Tunare (64)
Remove Minor Curse (8)
Enchanter
Protection Of Alendar (55)
Bounce (43)
Ward of Alendar (29)
Bulwark of Alendar (63)
Color Cloud (63)
Ordinance (52)
Reflect (58)
Guard of Alendar (44)
Magician
Reflect (58)
Ward of Calliav (46)
Orb of Exploration (42)
Burning Sand (62)
Guard of Calliav (58)
Protection of Calliav (64)
Wind of the Desert (60)
Bounce (42)
Necromancer
Protection Of Calliav (64)
Reflect (58)
Horror (63)
Ward of Calliav (49)
Dark Soul (39)
Imprecation (54)
Guard of Calliav (58)
Bounce (44)
Paladin
Blessing of Austerity (58)
Remove Lesser Curse (34)
Guidance (65)
Remove Curse (45)
Remove Minor Curse (19)
Remove Greater Curse (no recipe for this, recipe already exists - see LoY research)
Austerity (55)
Ranger
Feral Form (64)
Pack Shrew (49)
Fire Swarm (55)
Spirit of the Shrew (41)
Call of Ice (58)
Shadowknight
Scythe of Darkness (47)
Call of Darkness (54)
Scythe of Death (54)
Dark Temptation (32)
Scythe of Innoruuk (64)
Shaman
Odium (43)
Spirit of the Shrew (29)
Remove Lesser Curse (24)
Anathema (54)
Pack Shrew (34)
Bane (64)
Remove Curse (38)
Remove Minor Curse (9)
Remove Greater Curse (no recipe for this, recipe already exists - see LoY research)
Curse (34)
Wizard
Magi Ward (54)
Guard of Calrena (57)
Reflect (58)
Ice Meteor (64)
Mana Ward (63)
Ward of Calrena (49)
Bounce (44)
Protection of Calrena (64)Last edited by Maevenniia; 09-15-2006, 04:19 PM.
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Note: there are only 49 rather than 50 results, because the book states that Raw Stiff Hides cannot withstand the 5th treatment (Stiff Hide Solution+Lye+Skinning Knife)
Stiff Hide (triv 32) = Raw Stiff Hide + Stiff Hide Solution
Cleaned Stiff Hide (triv 33) = Raw Stiff Hide + Stiff Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent
Prepared Stiff Hide (triv 33) = Raw Stiff Hide + Stiff Hide Solution + Lye
Smooth Stiff Hide (triv 34) = Raw Stiff Hide + Stiff Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent + Skinning Knife
Pristine Stiff Hide = n/a
Crude Hide (triv 35) = Raw Crude Hide + Crude Hide Solution
Cleaned Crude Hide (triv 36) = Raw Crude Hide + Crude Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent
Prepared Crude Hide (triv 36) = Raw Crude Hide + Crude Hide Solution + Lye
Smooth Crude Hide (triv 37) = Raw Crude Hide + Crude Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent + Skinning Knife
Pristine Crude Hide (triv 37) = Raw Crude Hide + Crude Hide Solution + Lye + Skinning Knife
Rough Hide (triv 38) = Raw Rough Hide + Rough Hide Solution
Cleaned Rough Hide (triv 39) = Raw Rough Hide + Rough Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent
Prepared Rough Hide (triv 39) = Raw Rough Hide + Rough Hide Solution + Lye
Smooth Rough Hide (triv 40) = Raw Rough Hide + Rough Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent + Skinning Knife
Pristine Rough Hide (triv 40) = Raw Rough Hide + Rough Hide Solution + Lye + Skinning Knife
Hide (triv 42) = Raw Hide + Hide Solution
Cleaned Hide (triv 43) = Raw Hide + Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent
Prepared Hide (triv 43) = Raw Hide + Hide Solution + Lye
Smooth Hide (triv 44) = Raw Hide + Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent + Skinning Knife
Pristine Hide (triv 44) = Raw Hide + Hide Solution + Lye + Skinning Knife
Fine Hide (triv 47) = Raw Fine Hide + Fine Hide Solution
Cleaned Fine Hide (triv 48) = Raw Fine Hide + Fine Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent
Prepared Fine Hide (triv 48) = Raw Fine Hide + Fine Hide Solution + Lye
Smooth Fine Hide (triv 49) = Raw Fine Hide + Fine Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent + Skinning Knife
Pristine Fine Hide (triv 49) = Raw Fine Hide + Fine Hide Solution + Lye + Skinning Knife
Supple Hide (triv 53) = Raw Supple Hide + Supple Hide Solution
Cleaned Supple Hide (triv 54) = Raw Supple Hide + Supple Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent
Prepared Supple Hide (triv 54) = Raw Supple Hide + Supple Hide Solution + Lye
Smooth Supple Hide (triv 55) = Raw Supple Hide + Supple Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent + Skinning Knife
Pristine Supple Hide (triv 55) = Raw Supple Hide + Supple Hide Solution + Lye + Skinning Knife
Runic Hide (triv 60) = Raw Runic Hide + Runic Hide Solution
Cleaned Runic Hide (triv 62) = Raw Runic Hide + Runic Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent
Prepared Runic Hide (triv 62) = Raw Runic Hide + Runic Hide Solution + Lye
Smooth Runic Hide (triv 63) = Raw Runic Hide + Runic Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent + Skinning Knife
Pristine Runic Hide (triv 63) = Raw Runic Hide + Runic Hide Solution + Lye + Skinning Knife
Fine Runic Hide (triv 71) = Raw Fine Runic Hide + Fine Runic Hide Solution
Cleaned Fine Runic Hide (triv 72) = Raw Fine Runic Hide + Fine Runic Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent
Prepared Fine Runic Hide (triv 72) = Raw Fine Runic Hide + Fine Runic Hide Solution + Lye
Smooth Fine Runic Hide (triv 74) = Raw Fine Runic Hide + Fine Runic Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent + Skinning Knife
Pristine Fine Runic Hide (triv 74) = Raw Fine Runic Hide + Fine Runic Hide Solution + Lye + Skinning Knife
Supple Runic Hide (triv 84) = Raw Supple Runic Hide + Supple Runic Hide Solution
Cleaned Supple Runic Hide (triv 86) = Raw Supple Runic Hide + Supple Runic Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent
Prepared Supple Runic Hide (triv 86) = Raw Supple Runic Hide + Supple Runic Hide Solution + Lye
Smooth Supple Runic Hide (triv 87) = Raw Supple Runic Hide + Supple Runic Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent + Skinning Knife
Pristine Supple Runic Hide (triv 87) = Raw Supple Runic Hide + Supple Runic Hide Solution + Lye + Skinning Knife
Fine Supple Runic Hide (triv 100) = Raw Fine Supple Runic Hide + Fine Supple Runic Hide Solution
Cleaned Fine Supple Runic Hide (triv 100) = Raw Fine Supple Runic Hide + Fine Supple Runic Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent
Prepared Fine Supple Runic Hide (triv 102) = Raw Fine Supple Runic Hide + Fine Supple Runic Hide Solution + Lye
Smooth Fine Supple Runic Hide (triv 103) = Raw Fine Supple Runic Hide + Fine Supple Runic Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent + Skinning Knife
Pristine Fine Supple Runic Hide (triv 103) = Raw Fine Supple Runic Hide + Fine Supple Runic Hide Solution + Lye + Skinning Knife
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Spoilerish info from TSS
There will be 3 new Spell Research books available. I am not transcribing the exact text of the books here. Using the Systematic Research system introduced in DoDh, plus the new hides or parchments, we will be able to research LDoN and OoW spells.
Systematic Spell Research: Hides
Systematic Spell Research Addedum: Paper
Systematic Spell Research: Summoned
LDoN spells:
Basically, there are 10 types of "Raw" hides (they will be mob drops, ex: Raw Stiff Hides dropped off the bunnies in the newb meadow, that can be treated in 5 different ways to create different grades of hide. There are 10 different vendor-sold "___ Hide Solution"s, that are used alone or in conjunction with Celestial Solvent or Lye and/or a Skinning Knife to treat the hides.
The 10 hides in ascending order of "importance" (ie from lowest to highest) are:
Raw Stiff Hide
Raw Crude Hide
Raw Rough Hide
Raw Hide
Raw Fine Hide
Raw Supple Hide
Raw Runic Hide
Raw Fine Runic Hide
Raw Supple Runic Hide
Raw Fine Supple Runic Hide
The 10 solutions that are already on the Live vendors are:
Stiff Hide Solution
Crude Hide Solution
Rough Hide Solution
Hide Solution
Fine Hide Solution
Supple Hide Solution
Runic Hide Solution
Fine Runic Hide Solution
Supple Runic Hide Solution
Fine Supple Runic Hide Solution
The 5 treatments are as follows:
(plain) "___" Hide = Raw "___" Hide + "____" Hide Solution
Cleaned "___" Hide = Raw "___" Hide + "____" Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent
Prepared "___" Hide = Raw "___" Hide + "____" Hide Solution + Lye
Smooth "___" Hide = Raw "___" Hide + "____" Hide Solution + Celestial Solvent + Skinning Knife
Pristine "___" Hide = Raw "___" Hide + "____" Hide Solution + Lye + Skinning Knife
nb: Skinning Knife is returned on success or failure.Last edited by Maevenniia; 09-15-2006, 04:34 PM.Tags: None
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