The SOF Tradeskill Quest!

[Grants]

Easy fix is to add a 8th step to the quest where you combine a very very rare item that only drops in Crystallios to make it 40ac 500hp 20 to saves. Similar to the Signet of Might quest (hope stone from elementals).

Anyway, anyone got any more information about the fletching step? I'm having a hard time to figure it out...

[Bonzz]

Big Problem

I am on the 4th task (Scrap Oil).

I made the setting and the mold Eron gave me was used up in the combine.

I then went to make the Jewelry item and failed (a 250 trivial and I am 336 with trophy). The setting was LOST in the failure.

Now -- there is no way to make another setting as the mold was used up.

There is no way to try the combine again because the setting was lost.

I tried to go to Eron and hand in another Bar to see if it would trigger him giving me another mold. No luck.

This has really frustrated me. The setting should have NEVER been lost in a failed combine... or at the very least, the Mold should have never been used up in that combine.

It appears the only option I have is to dump a nearly completed difficult task and start over.

This needs fixing (/hint Ngreth)

Hopefully they will approve my /petition, all though they have not responded in going on 2 days now).

[greebmushroome]

for the first task, when you complete it, he says:

Eron Nurwistle says 'This is a fine piece of work. You truly are skilled. For the next task you must be a highly skilled [potter].'

also, does anyone know where in the mechamatic guardian the twitching soots drop? or the name of the mob that drops them?

[Poohjure]

If I may suggest, guys, comparing SoF items to pre-SoF items, especially at the group level, is futile at best. The gear in SoF is so radically better that it's very hard to create a fair comparison. Instead, I would suggest that you look for comparable jewlery from SOF and see how the stats compare there. That might provide more meat for your argument to convince the devs to change the reward.

The problem isnt that it is better then Pre-SoF gear. We allready know that SoF is massively better then anything we've seen in the game, It's just that in comparison's sake...Every major tradeskills quest I can think of the reward has been leaps and bounds greater then the other groupable loot.

PoP
Signet of Might 25ac/145hp (Melee PoP tradeskill reward)
vs
Gleaming Hoop of the Silverwing 24ac/90hp (BEST Groupable PoP Ear I could find)

SoF
Eron's Jewelry 30ac/470hp (Melee SoF tradeskill reward)
vs
Jagged Icy Loop 28ac/480hp (BEST Groupable SoF Ear I could find)

So from the best groupable PoP ear to tradeskill reward we saw a 61% increase in hp and a 4% increase in ac.

So based on this...Eron's Jewelry should be...775hp and 30ac.

Throughout EQ I'd be willing to say that only about 15% of the population would put force the effort for this quest. Currently, I know of 6 members of the 2100 club, that are not going to bother with this "Waste of time".

Hands down, the risk vs. reward on this is out of whack.

Suggestions:

Since the ac is never going to be what we want it to be, give us a click that is worthwhile enough to make people jealous enough to perhaps explore a part of the game they have said no to since day one. It worked with LoN. As soon as people saw items that they wanted, they began to dump hundreds and hundreds of dollars into it.

--Poohjure

[Ratblaster]

melee clicky is a "screech" clicky, simply make the caster one screech as well

thus we can only ever have 1

But then that would punish every user of the caster version of ring who already has a screech buff from other gear because then they would have to give up that buff (forum of endurance , form of defense etc) in order to use the mana regen effect on ring.

[quorthon]

melee clicky is a "screech" clicky, simply make the caster one screech as well

thus we can only ever have 1

[Ratblaster]

Quorthon means that he wants to be able to cast the Melee version Clicky but he is a caster. The 'must equip' prevents this.

Perhaps that is to prevent someone from using buffs from both rings....i.e. inventory click melee ring for AC buff, toss it into jc bag, combine, then click again for mana regen buff. The must equip ensures you can only use one focus (even if it's not the preferred focus) due to class restrictions on the 2 rings.

[Pootle]

"must equip" on a clicky doesn't matter - you put it on long enough to click, then take it back off and the clicky buff keeps on running.

Quorthon means that he wants to be able to cast the Melee version Clicky but he is a caster. The 'must equip' prevents this.

[KyrosKrane]

If I may suggest, guys, comparing SoF items to pre-SoF items, especially at the group level, is futile at best. The gear in SoF is so radically better that it's very hard to create a fair comparison. Instead, I would suggest that you look for comparable jewlery from SOF and see how the stats compare there. That might provide more meat for your argument to convince the devs to change the reward.

[Leonis]

When I first started this quest, I had gotten the impression (mistaken, had obviously misread something somewhere) that this was a CHARM item quest. If the quest reward was a CHARM item, I'd class it as VERY desireable. It compares NICELY to Timmyn's Oil Can. Perhaps the best (and easiest) solution to making this a "desirable" item would be to add CHARM slot to it? It is DEFINITELY not overpowered for a Charm slot item, being the SAME AC and a whopping 20 more HPs than the Oil Can single-group quest item.


"must equip" on a clicky doesn't matter - you put it on long enough to click, then take it back off and the clicky buff keeps on running.

[quorthon]

I'm still at a loss as to why they couldn't have made the reward an augment.

Something at or above the Jonas' Hand level would have been appropriate.

Raiders (bar the top elite) and groupers alone could have had longterm use from it.

As a raiding caster i'll never equip this, and from looks of the clicky I doubt i'll ever click it as I have better.

I'm still doing the quest though, more from a Hilary "because it's there" reason.

A quick thing, any chance you could remove the "must equip" from the clicky? as depite being a silk caster, i'd quite like the AC clicky while solo'ing

[Ratblaster]

Here's my opinion on this. Is it really that game breaking to boost the AC on this one item? This isn't your typical group item (raid items aren't relevant). This is an item maybe 1 person in the group doing it will see, it's not a drop people will go camp. It's a rather long quest and has some high trivials. Expansion after expansion I have to deal with lackluster AC on group items while hp/mana go up and up. As a group centric tank, for ONCE I'd like to have an item have decent AC, even above average AC as this is a unique item to get. Something I could wear for a long time.

I guess I'll weigh in on this also. I would not mind seeing the stats on this (including AC) increased, possibly even significant increases. This is not a tradeable item, nobody can win it on raids, and it is LORE, so we are talking about just one single item that can only be attained by a master tradeskiller. One excellent item will not break the game. One item that hardcore tradeskillers can say I EARNED this, through many hundreds (or even thousands) of hours of tradeskilling, possibly spread over years. Hardcore raiders will be getting 800-1000 hp items in many slots as expansion rolls on, so I think a hardcore tradeskiller (regardless of whether or not they raid) should be able to attain at least one very significant item.

[Zolina]

Pootle - Just tell any exp grind group that inside the robot has the dungeon experience bonus, they'll probably go along. The dungeon isn't too bad to pull, mostly single and double pulls, so even a ranger with root can pull for it.

[Acefbm]

Fletching - Gem covered box

I have been looking for the gem covered boxes..I Have the box from the birds in hills of shade..and off brownies in dragonscale hills. I noticed it was mentioned that a bloodmoon warlock dropped one, but went and killed them for a few hours, and did not find one. Is there a specific camp it drops from, or is it a named mob maybe? or is it just extremely rare and I have had bad luck?

[Pootle]

As a more casual player I would use it, but I would like to point out that comparing this to a 'group' drop is a little unfair. My feeling would be that its should be better than most 'group' drops as its a long quest that requires a lot of 'group' camps... We arnt just setting up a group at a specific area in one zone and fighting trash till the named mob pops!!!

Saying that, as Ngreth said, he needs to make a strong case to Merloc, to persuade him to change the item.

WE, need to help find evidence for him to do this.

Now if I could just find some people to help me on stage two... maybe I could start doing the group content of this darn thing.