Non robe wearers - Post those Feedbacks

[MasterKrym]

Everytime I see the new ribbon robes selling for 50K plus in the bazaar I get stressed.

After spending 3 years to get my Wood Elf Druid up to a decent tailoring level he can now make some glorious cultural armour that is not good enough for the level restriction it carries and sells for 500pp - more than that to make.

Any race that cant make the new robes should have been offerred an alternative - why cant we be given cloaks or hats or anything ?

If you cant make the robes petition to get something else. Read the last patch and you will notice they seem to have a lot of free time on their hands, maybe they could do something useful...

[Mahlig]

Don't forget to include that you want all non-foraging races to be able to forage. And all non-sneak races to be able to sneak. Etc. /whips dead horse hard. I am an Erudite so I get robes. You want to know why I deserve robes? Go look at your pre-LoY tailoring skillup options (reads: cultural) compared to mine (remember, I am an Erudite). That is right. 4 rubies PER attempt. You? You use oak bark. OMG. How unfair!!! I want what the other guy has!!! /yawn

/e rides dead horse off into the sunset

[eqNichola]

If Tunarean Soldier and Scout armor sells for 500pp on your server I want a transfer!

Any race that cant make the new robes should have been offerred an alternative - why cant we be given cloaks or hats or anything ?

If you cant make the robes petition to get something else

/boggle - you're a wood elf you say? You HAVE an alternative - COMPLETE SETS of cultural armor!

[OberonMiM]

they dont even sell for half of what you say they sell for.

Besides there are many "unfair" things in eq. The fact that halflings got the exp bonus and not humans. The fact that certain classes are glaringly overpowerd/unbalanced in pvp (cough bards) but nothing is ever done

[Suva]

Every time I see rants like this is makes me want to scream. Be happy you have anything at all. There are some who get no cultural combines. If you want to make robes, make an alt, skill them up, and makes robes.

[Grenoble]

I don't understand the issue.

Races that have pure casters are able to make pure caster robes.

Makes sense to me.

[Lilosh]

I don't understand the issue.

Races that have pure casters are able to make pure caster robes.

Makes sense to me.

Yup they can make pure caster robes.

And Heraldic armor.
Or Dark prince Armor.
Or Fearsome Skyiron.
Or Imbued Mithril Armor.

While the robes themselves are very nice, I think giving certian races high end tailoring was *Slightly* imbalancing.

The only races who should have gotten this were

a) Gnomes, who's casters have always been SOL, even with the Cultural tinkered armor.

or

b) Erudites, who already have cultural tailoring.

It would have fit into the mold much more then giving races with good cultural smithing an easy skillup path to 232 tailoring in most cases.


-Lilosh

[Saleani]

It is only the dark elf robe with the regen that is priced the same as a funji. On my server, there is one robe of abrogation in the bazaar. The price changes nightly from 60k-75k, but the quantity has never changed, that single robe has never been sold. The rest (and I do watch the prices) sell for 100-300p for the ones using old research items to about 3-5k for the ones using the new research items. Please note that most folks charge 1k for the new research items. Which I find amusing, since most of the new research items for sale are for spells that have bottomed out at 20p in the bazaar. Can I sell the robes I made? Probably not, I plan to hand out to all my buddies any robes of scent or concussion I succeed at. When I run out of friends to hand robes to, I am not sure if I want to clutter up my merchant more with them, sell them to vendors, or give them away to random newbs. The number of robes offered for sale seems to be rising in the bazaar, so it looks to me like they are being made for skill ups and never sold.

Can my barbarian make these robes? No? Am I cheated? Not really. I made many of the ribbons on my barb to get skill ups for the 7th shawl. Dang those 4 failures hurt. At about 6-7k per attempt due to the overpriced shells and blood, it sure added up. What gets my goat is that some of the merchants in the bazaar want 90p for dyes. 50p I will pay, 60pp I will not pay.

Are those robes worth 50k? For reagent conservation 3? No way. Reagent conservation would be worth it if it worked on imbue or enchant lines of spells, and they do not. Improved Damage 3? That would actually be a decent effect for a mage or wizard, worth maybe 5k or 10k, but sure not worth 50k.

Well, I'm sure I had a point around here somewhere, but basically, my human can make the robes, if I can get the correct foraged parts, but 232 looks to be the max I can get to since I won't be paying 1k for flakes of lodestone, words of obliteration or capacity. That is comparable to the max skill you can get making your cultural tailoring. Should your tailoring be able to make 50k items? Well, the items are worth what folks are willing to pay. With velious leather tailored items bottoming out at around 20-2000pp per item, the market for that is pretty well gone as well.

Where did I leave the point I was trying to make? I think the point I was trying to make is that the robes are being priced at [rediculous amount here] but not selling at that price.

[Grenoble]

Oh sheesh thanks Lilosh I wasn't thinking of it that way, I do understand the rant now

/bonk!

I don't know how it is on other servers...but on E Marr I haven't seen one of these robes yet.

I don't know if someones lacking 1 particular skill, or people are making them and keeping them to guildies/friends, or what. I can't imagine them going for 50k.

What am I saying? I'm on Emarr! They'll probably go for 120k once they appear!

[Heartsong_Steelsoul]

Hmm, the only ones I can see it being unfair, possibly, for would be high elves and dark elves who already had cultural armor for casters. For the other races, the addition of the robes gives those casters SOME kind of tradeskill made armor.

[Pojodan]

I think the main point of his remark is that these robes a race specific and only available to a few races, most of which already had cultural armor (Which is race/class specific), leaving the other races with either no new options (Like Wood Elfs) or still nothing at all (Like Vah Shir)

While racial robes is a neat idea it's not 'fair' to those people that are a race that cannot make any of them.

Note: I'm being subjective, these arn't my personal feelings on the matter (Seeing as how I kinda gave up tailoring =P)

[Axterix EnObelix]

It's all very silly. Looking at the robes, the only one I can see that would be worthwhile is the erudite one with improved damage III, though the iksar one looks better now that they've tweaked the focus effect to be useful. But as time goes on, level III focus effects will become more common and people will opt to wear robes with better stats. It's a new item, a rare one. In time, it will lose it's value.

>>While racial robes is a neat idea it's not 'fair' to those people that are a race that cannot make any of them.

Sure, and it's also not fair that my tinkerer can't make armor with the stats of the Ogre CT armor. Or that the ogre's CT armor doesn't have nifty effects like my armor. Or that halflings can make nifty haversacks while I can't. Or that High elf and inky armor can be worn by their casters but the chain I make can't. Nor is it fair that a cat can do a tradeskill heavy quest for an awesome cloak (FT5!!!!!) while my gnome enchanter can only make these pathetic little robes that I'd never wear. It also isn't fair that certain gods add nice thing to their imbued jewelry and other ones suck. And it isn't fair that most cultural armor sets include non-visible parts, but my clockwork observer, watchman, and shadowwalker doesn't.

Life isn't fair.

And personally, I like it that way. No fair means things are different. That keeps things interesting. Besides, it makes sense that robe wearing races make the best robes, though these are far, far from the best tailored robes. Sometimes you're up. Sometimes you're down. Such is life.

Would I like to see some things fixed? You betcha. Armor to make for kitties, armor for agnostic trolls, heavy chain added for Iksar warriors and SKs, would love it all, even if I couldn't use any of it. Those big, obvious gaps I would like to see closed.

But it can be asked for in a positive fashion, not like this. And it'll be a slow process, always is.

[Jannelle Silverthorne]

The wearing of the robes is not race specific, only the creation of them is.

The ID3 Erudite robe use to sell for 30k or more as fast as someone would put it in the bazaar since Improved Damage 3 is good till L60 and the items aren't very common that have ID3 on them. Now they're sitting at 15-20k and not selling. I imagine the price will come down further as more people skill up their tailoring on these robes.

You're lucky to get 500pp for any but the top end robe for each race since only the 1 best for each race has an effect of some type.

[Axterix EnObelix]

>>It would have fit into the mold much more then giving races with good cultural smithing an easy skillup path to 232 tailoring in most cases.

Then you'd better include Iksar on your list of those that should have robes

[Pojodan]

Nor is it fair that a cat can do a tradeskill heavy quest for an awesome cloak (FT5!!!!!)

I can probably count the number of Hero cloaks serverwide on two hands and that quest has been changed, eliminating the last cloak while boosting the one before it (Officer's Cloak of Service, see my Magelo) which has no effect but is still pretty good for the level of the quest.
The quest to get the Hero cloak involved a ring event that had an indefinate time period (Final boss was a very rare random spawn amonst waves and waves of dozens of lvl 40s grimlings that could cast fear, mez, ice commet, malo, CHeal, etc) which was mostly designed to gain a key to a zone that was broken at the time (Inner Acrylia), so no one ever did it save for the truely dedicated top tier guilds. (I only know of one that actually finished it)

Also, the cloak was more of a quest, only the early parts of it where tradeskill involved and you only need a 135 skill to make the hardest peice.