Faithstone Question

[Calabar]

My pottery skill is 200 and the trivial on faithstones is greater than 250. I’ve never tried to make one of these before but a guild mate has asked me about them. If the materials are not too costly, he would like me to hit the combine button for him. So I was hoping someone could tell me what kind of success rates these items have and if the cost of the items needed to make them are very expensive.

Thanks.

[Tinile]

Requires mana vial with 2 sapphires, remaining cost is negligable. Cost is approx 225pp per combine. I did some when I was sick of opal steins in low 200s, probably ~210, and the success rate was decent. Takes divine glaze too, but that cost won't affect your wheel attempts.

[Reflan]

Exact opposite experience with me. I heartily recommend AGAINST it.

My cost, buying everything in bazaar at the best price I can find, is about 150pp for the glaze(permafrost crystals plus an iron oxide plus cheap junk) and 250pp for a vial of distilled mana, for a total that's generally about 400. Sometimes either product is a bit more or less. Counting zone essences and etc. as pretty much free.

At 250 raw skill in pottery, a world away in terms of success rates from your 200, and adding in a geerlok to boot, after making over 30 of these faithstones and spiritstones, I have a success rate of somewhere between 40 and 45% I would say. 45% would definitely be on the high side. So it took quite a few combines to get those 30 stones, to say the least.

I'd suggest you get your friend to a higher level potter, or become one yourself, or he will probably have to expect to throw away some money.

[Calabar]

Thanks for the advice. I have 250 skill in brewing, so it’ll be some time before I train my pottery beyond its current level. I’ll write out everything needed, including approximate cost and possible chance of success, and pass it along. I agree that he should find someone with a greater pottery skill then myself, but if, after reading all the facts, he still wants me to hit the combine button I’ll give it a shot. And who knows, I could get lucky.

[Obina]

At 200 skill, he might as well do the combine himself. I'm not being disrespectful I hope, but think of every skill point being 1 percent chance of success lower or higher. If an item is 50 percent chance at 250 skill it will be 5 percent chance at 205 or less. Hmm with gearlock, you may have 10 percent chance.

The "real" trivial of these is probably around 280, if that helps you get a feel for trying them at 200. Even at 250 skill, we are just "trying"them. hee hee.

On a separate note, I buy lots of stuff now that I used to get or make myself (especially celestial essences - hate 'em-!). But I refuse to buy Permafrost Crystals! Seven of them lying on the ground to be picked up by anyone - & with a fast respawn. If I did the value of time thing perhaps I should buy them (like Bill Gates cant take the time to pick up a $100 bill), but the trip to Permafrost every now and again is one thing I like about Pottery. Not as nice as the slime covered walls of LGuk, but Perma is a kewl zone!

[Arakni Spellweaver]

For the record, I'm at 200+geerlok. I've done two sets of tries on these, and here was my record:

Butcherblock Faithstone: 7 tries, succeeded on the 7th, fired OK.
Halas Faithstone: 7 tries, suceeded on the first and failed the rest, fired OK.

Your mileage may vary, but those were my experiences.

[Reflan]

Just yesterday, 250 raw skill plus my geerlok on of course, I made a Faithstone of Underfoot for a dorf cleric. I failed the first four tries in a row. Roughly 1600 plat in the hole. Made the thing on the 5th try, so a total cost of roughly 2000 plat.

They sell on my server for 2k and under.

As usual, what a total waste of time.

What can I say, it made me feel better that on the serverwide channel, another potter at that exact moment failed four in a row two. At least I'm not the only one!

And again I say...this kind of failure rate on this item is very far from extraordinary. I have had a good number of runs of 3 and more failures in a row.

[Unmei]

I think I got all your Karma. A few days ago I did -5- Faithstones IN A ROW and also a Ceramic Gavel of Justice that I forgot to equip my trophy while combining (whew!).

By the third faithstone I thought to myself "Geez! I better not stop until I fail..." ;)