New Marketplace Forum Rules.

[Ngreth Thergn]

Due to the overwhelming demand to keep these resource hogs...

These Forums will now be community Moderated. We are assigning the most vocal "keep it" people as moderators. They demanded it, they can police it.

These Forums must still keep within the rules of our boards.

We will also be spot checking the boards to make sure that they stay in line.

If you want to be a global marketplace moderator, send me, Ngreth Thergn, a private message. I mean this. Do not test it. Do not think it would be "Funny" to send the request to Denmom. Send the message to me only. I will have absolutely *NO* sense of humor on this matter. You say how will I know? I have not given Denmom access to add moderators to these forums... because of this... *I* will be doing it... so she would then have to pass the message on to me.

If you want to be a marketplace moderator for a particular forum, send me, Ngreth Thergn, a private message. I mean this. Do not test it. Do not think it would be "Funny" to send the request to Denmom. Send the message to me only. I will have absolutely *NO* sense of humor on this matter. You say how will I know? I have not given Denmom access to add moderators to these forums... because of this... *I* will be doing it... so she would then have to pass the message on to me.

You can also post in the topic you are reading now to request it and I will get to it when I can.

There will NOT be instant response to these as I now work, and I cannot always access the site when I am working.

[Jaeden]

If it will help, I can watch the Xegony marketplace :)

[Kredal]

I'll help moderate the Tunare marketplace.

Kredal

[Autumnwyld]

I will help with Quellious if you like :D

~Autty

[Cleric Taven]

Edited by Lilosh, and copied from your other TWO threads Please do not advertise your guild in the marketplace. These forums are for Tradeskill Items only. Locking the thread.


I left Lilosh a private message about this concern also.

I will certainly respect all of the moderators requests and yet I feel it worthy of an initial challenge of policy as to why it is so undesirable. Many devote craftfolk have pledged alligence to one or another Guild on their own home servers; although, others who have not yet selected and may be seeking those with similar tradeskill interest as well as collective resources to share.

I agree in the general principle that there are better places to be more verbose about ones own guild such as in a .sig or other than EQTraders message boards. Some of us are struggling to keep active membership and are honestly seeking those with complimentary hobbies. I truely don't see justification to nick-pick about softsell recruitment based on a single Marketplace posts, when further replies were kept within the same thread topic; however, by locking it out, makes it difficult to bounce it up if say Tradeskill related events such as hunts or lessons were sponsered by a given Guild.

In prospective - I did post on Lanys T'Vyl, Morell-Thule and Stormhammer since each are servers I am an active craftfolk on.
I am also an avid supporter and veteran of EQTraders and often (http://legends.everquest.station.sony.com/guildnewsview.jsp?o=53074) make mention of the wonderful resources.

My messages were short and invitational. Not at all blatent repeated attempts to up my own personal posting count, :roll: but certainly an opportunity to be a first post message on the new empty boards. Merely an announcement of my own arrival. And please do note that I refrained from increasing my own .sig to include the same url links.

EverFaithful
Cleric Taven

[sumamael]

My personal opinion is,
Cleric Taven's invitations to his tradeskill guilds were left alone on the old board for a very very long time. Since these invitations are not specifically forbidden by the marketplace rules I see no reason not to allow them.

I don't think there is a need to micro manage the market place forums this much.

[Garulf]

To avoid the ugly "conflict of interest" monster rearing it's head, how about you grab the list of folks that want to help, me included, then randomly assign them to a server board they DON'T have an active character on.

I'm only active on Cazic-Thule, and occasionally, Test.

[Ngreth Thergn]

On Advertising guilds.

Hrm.

If it is a Tradeskill guild we allow it. If it is just a social guild... it is on the edge, and it is better to just leave links in your sig, maybe an "ad" in your sig. That one is more a gray area for us. If it is a raid guild... please just leave links in your sig.

Now, I do admit. I have NOT given real detailed instructions to the moderators (just follow the rules posted in visitors corner). But we do not have real detailed instructions to give anyway. And well... this was a gray area anyway... it broke the LETTER of the rules, but maybe not the SPIRIT of the rules. Becasue of gray areas, things might happen. As long as you do not INSULT the moderators, and you are polite in your wording (as this post was! THANK YOU!) we can talk about it. As soon as you go insulting mods... there is a problem.

So The moderators above should take my clarification above. Tradeskill guild ads welcome, raid guild ads not welcom, social guild ads... make your best judgement. Does this seem to discriminate against raid guilds... maybe, and raid guilds have brought us great information, but raid guilds adn tradeskills are not usually a match.

So basically I am saying. BOTH of you were correct in this matter :)

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On Conflict of interest.

I see what you are saying, but we also are doing this as a comunity. We want it more of a comunity than the guides in EQ are (they are strangers!)
Favoritsm will not get you much on our boards anyway. And if it is bad, I am sure it will be reported by someone, then we can deal with it. At the same time, we don't mind some cross server moderating, if it makes somoene feel more comfortable.

So saying that... do you want to moderate a particular marketplace, including your own if you wish.

[Garulf]

I'll help out with the CT marketplace, I usually only check EQTraders once a day though, so nastiness could linger for 24+ hours before I saw it.

[Kaidian Blade]

I would be more than happy to be a moderator for the Solusek Ro forums.

[Lilosh]

I read Cleric Tavern's PM to me this morning.

And Sumameal, I did not see his thread on the old board, so I was unaware on the precedent.


Looking back at his message on the Lans forum, it was a link to his guild message board. I clicked on the link, and saw no visible references to tradeskills.

Morell Thule, and Stormhammer were both links to your guilds websitem which made no refernce to being a "Tradeskillers Guild", other then a link on the left, 3/4 of the way down that says "trade skills."


I am not trying to say I was right, or you were wrong, or anything like that.

Just explaining why I did what I did. Ngreth says we were both right, and I will agree. I know you weren't trying to increase your postcount, or spam, or any other nonsense.


-Lilosh

[Cravin]

I would offer myself as a Market place mod.

[Cleric Taven]

Thank you Ngreth and Lilosh for reviewing this policy.

I could reply to each of your points, least of which, each of the guilds do actively support craftfolks for their server's communities. You bring up a very valid point about including some label "Tradeskillers Guild".
A reality is, those who frequent EQTraders pretty much know which guilds do and often there will be more members from them, rather than Leaders who wish to be that exclusive when they originally created their guild's website.


I read Cleric Tavern's PM to me this morning.

8&lt;snipped>8

Just explaining why I did what I did. Ngreth says we were both right, and I will agree.


So having come to a mutual understanding in principle and the grey guidelines as Ngreth described - will they remained locked?

EverFaithful

[Ngreth Thergn]

What server is your tradeskill guild on?

Post about it ONLY on that server thread.

If you are actually running a guild on 3 servers... well then you are insane :)

Please do let me know what server it is actually on.

[Laearya Lifeblood]

I'll help mod the Tribunal one :)

[Lilosh]

What server is your tradeskill guild on?

Post about it ONLY on that server thread.

If you are actually running a guild on 3 servers... well then you are insane :)

Please do let me know what server it is actually on.

He was, If I recall, promoting a seperate guild on each server.

I can double check, when I get a moment.

(Edited after Research:
On Morrell Thule, His Guild is Random Acts.
On Legends, His Guild is Universal Guardians.
On Lanys T'Vyl], His guid is Revived.

You can see my confusion. :? )

-Lilosh

[Ngreth Thergn]

Ok I will wiat for a response from him here :)

[Cleric Taven]

If you are actually running a guild on 3 servers... well then you are insane.

On Morrell Thule, His Guild is Random Acts.
On Legends, His Guild is Universal Guardians.
On Lanys T'Vyl], His guid is Revived.


Hmm, well I have alot more peeps in Random Acts, but none are an officer, so I would defer to any other EQT RA's to support them, if they so choose to promote the guild. I honestly play there an equal amount of overall time while continuing to work on all of my personal crafts as I have invested in combined time with the other two guild stables.

Revived, I am an officer; although, not the only resident crafter. Since I have just recently starting a couple of toons over there by request of it's leader, a long time friend, - none have mastered a particular skill to offer, just yet. :P

Ah Stormhammer Legends. Insanity not really.
My mains brought there were actually started the first year over on both Veeshan and Bristlebane. Pretty much they were abandoned and some restarted after Morell-Thule came online with a rumored perception of becoming much more /roleplaying oriented than the uber/elite servers.

I am it's guild leader and would certainly consider it the choice of the three to select to support exclusively, if that is what I am being asked of here.

I have a gut feeling that as an attritioned guild, it may not last much longer unless I can recruit some strong members to keep it going and if requires my labeling it a "Tradeskills Guild" - it certainly is within my control to do so.

EverFaithful

[Ngreth Thergn]

Go Ahead and post ads for your Tradeskill Guilds on the Two you are Guildleader/officer. Let an officer promote the other :)

[Lorinnor]

If you want another volunteer for Kael Drakkal, I believe I can do it and am willing to try. I'm a native german, you might remember I did the translation of the forum rules. As to how good my english is, on the other side, read my posts and judge for yourself. I like to believe I can get by. :)
Since I don't play on KD myself - so far at least, if there's going to be a movelog I might move an alt from FV there - I'm don't see how I could get to play favorites, or such...

[Mutovim]

I know I'm more of a lurker than a poster,

but if you need mods on the prexus board, I'll be willing to volunteer

[Sinuuyanea Nocturne]

I would like to watch over Quellious Marketplace, as well...

[Froni Thunderpaws]

I noticed there is no community moderator for vazaelle, so I can keep an eye on Vazaelle if necessary. Seems that we have very little activity there that um... um (trying to think of a good innocuous description) um.... stuff that Vazaelle had a reputation for. I am usually on the board a few times a day and it would be no problem to watch the Vazaelle forum as well.

I am beginning to think that server populations are a bit like their name sakes.

[Turlie Silverwine]

Not much activity on Brell server either, but I raise my hand for that one.

[GreyWolfe]

First off I have to say that I had to take a 9 month leave of gaming, but before i left I got 3 months of great fun with EQ. And this site was my bible. If the new database is HALF as good as this then it is still better than anything else out there. Thanks again.

Now I can play again but am starting from scratch, since no one volunteered for Mealin Starpyre server I can help there, just remember that I am a noobie (granted and old 1 at 39 years old-not holding since the big 40 is in Sept. :P ).

What help I can I will but dont expect great things, just my best that I can do.

NOTE: I lurk alot, since my lack of experience will show if I open my mouth.
NOTE: I want to GM all trades even if I have to use 8 toons to do it.
NOTE: I can and will if asked make a toon on anyserver for the porpose of tradeskills. (Please dont ask for me to create toons just for a guild-- 1 bad experience is enough... going to solo awhile).

Again I give 4 thumbs up to this site and want to help if I may.

Thanks Ron

[Liquid]

I will keep an eye on the 7th Hammer marketplace...even though I dont know much about tradeskills, but I am willing to help

[Nimphe Wildwood]

Pretty please, may I be a moderator on the Povar board. I wish to join my esteemed cohort Lilosh. :)

I'm in the Top 20 list.

[Aarial]

I need my moderator ship reinstaed on the Emarr Marketplace forums. Fyste is no longer around from what we know. I was watching over them til she came back but I've not seen her post in months.

Thanks Aarial

p.s. Somehow my old accoutn got deleted. /boggle

No idea what happened.