cost for 200-250?

[gimlis of xev]

Hello everyone, first time poster here D

I was just wondering an approximate amount of plat it will take for me to get from 200-250. i am actually at 199, if that makes a difference. Also, will any of the new PoP pottery recipes make a difference in cost? i am a little low for tier 1 planes now, so i would have do buy any mob drops needed for pottery.

I want to know how much because i have been hunting in seb at the gaurd camp a lot, so i am makeing plenty of money, but it is a hassle to leave seb, so i want to be able to have a shot at getting near 250 (or 243 actually, i have a gearlock)

Thanks for any help!

[Tebyen Trueheart]

I asked this question awhile back on the old boards, and it was from 203 to 250. What everyone figured would be around 38k or there abouts.

[gimlis of xev]

ok, thanks =)

geuss i need to spend a few more weeks in seb though (

thanks again,

[ThorgullaD]

It all depends on luck and imo its hard to say how much it costs.
Most of the 200+ stuff can be sold in bazaar and actually earn money by making your way to 250.
Tho i have had problems for quite some time now. still at 223 after more than 100 combines on that skill. Lucky me I have gotten all sold so far. So it has not costed me that much. Just get yourself a few Iron Oxide providers to a cheap price and it should not cost you that much.

[Henora]

Interesting.

I have been having terrible problems raising skill as well.
I have 212 skill in pottery.

I did tons ( like 260+ combines ) of Opal Stein combines and got 0 skill ups. I succeeded on every single combine.

How bizare is that?? I was so boggled I took off geerlock and even dropped some wisdom and I couldn't seem to fail. Grats destroy on hundreds of opals steins.

So I thought that Opal Steins must have been too easy and so I would be getting a low rate of skill ups.. so I decided to move on to Star Ruby.

So last night I went to the bank and took out the remainder of my money. Then I bought 6 stacks of Star Rubies.

So combining 120 star ruby steins and I got again 0 skill ups.

In between Opal steins and Star Ruby steins I also did a ton (50ish) of planar steins with the excess materials I had laying around. Succeeded all, 0 skill ups.

Pottery is broken. I am broke.
Running total: 19k and 0 skillups at 212 pottery.

-Henora
Oracle of Drunken Tsunami - Terris Thule

[Unmei]

...is that the trivial of the item you are trying has nothing to do with your chance of skill ups, unless, of course, the item -is- trivial. ;) There's no sense in blowing a fortune on Star Ruby steins if you can still do opals.

Also, if you're looking to keep your costs at a minimum, and don't feel like competing in the glutted opal stein market, kiss up to a cleric of Erolissi Marr (and an enchanter, but that's pretty much a given ;) and do Idols of Erolissi Marr (Clear Mana + Enchanted Clay + Imbued Rose Quartz + Idol Sketch + Sculpting Tools) - the overall cost here is less than opal steins by about 1/3rd, assuming you don't pay for the imbuing/mana creation.

[Renvarin]

Just a cheap way to get above 200, if ya dont mind spending some time getting stuff. Make crucibles of escape, farm muddites for a bit and get heavy clay, then go to rivervale, they got the lesser succor scroll for 5 plat, and a wheel with vendor right next to it, gotten 3 pts making them lately. Also something else ive noticed, not sure if just a fluke, is that i get a point in the first 20 combines, if i will get one, then like none for the next 80 combines. So the other day i had 100 heavy clay, did 20 combines, got one pt, and stopped. the next day when i logged on i did another 20, got a pt, stopped. Thing is i always stop combining after i get 1 pt, and then try another day, and get a point, but when i just blow through all the stacks of items i have to combine, i will only ever get 1 pt if that. must be a fluke.

[Quell]

Just to add, Tebyen's figure may have been based off an old study done PRIOR to the skillup changes for pottery. Since then my experience has been that it's 2-4 times as hard to get skillups...

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[Voter on EQ]

I GMed my Pottery way before they made the Pottery harder. I spent about 10k from 0 to 250. I was around 200. I did Star ruby steins all the way. and Star ruby steins were sleling for 700ish each at that time. but now it's more likely 300ish pp on our server.

[Harvyst]

Last night - Skill 222, I made 9 white ceramic bands. No skillups.
Then 19 star encrusted ruby steins. 8 survived. THREE skillups.

Pottery - 225. I am happy. 2 sold last night while I was asleep for 500 plat.

Waiting for 1 more star ruby stein to sell. Then I will break even (with actually 100 plat profit), and can go make more. I figure I'll do this until I fill up my bazaar mule's bank space with star ruby steins....

[Ilona]

Harvyst, that's exactly what I do too (also on RN), though I don't seem to be getting skillups at the moment :(

Make a couple of opal steins (I'm under 222), an idol and attempt a stack of star ruby ones, sell the results before making more.

The market is there, I just don't agree with the people who put up 15+ of the same item in the bazaar at one time :/

[Aquila Swiftspirit]

I got most of my skillups fairly cheaply: my guild went through a couple potc pushes, with lots of people collecting stuff to get their earrings made. I did their combines. The first time, I only did golden idols, but my skill was under 200, and I hadn't really planned to GM. The next couple pushes I did all the combines and had it down to a science, so to speak.

I also did lots for guildmates' faithstones and spiritstones, and even a fair number for another guild.

It made my pottery way more worthwhile all around--my cleric/shaman friends all have faith/spirit stones, my guildmates have potc earrings!

[Harvyst]

Iona...

I did 40 more encrusted star ruby combines last night, and got a total of zero, yes, 0, skillups. Also did 2 golden idols of tunares, no skillups.

Auugh.

On the bright side, they are selling well.

I usually fill my trader's bank up before I fill her up. But when I completed my opal rush, I had no space, no where. I had two alts and her just crammed with the things. Thank god, every one sold. I do keep around 8-10 on her though, as sometimes there's a rush before I get home from work (I am on PST, people buy around 5 pm EST), and I'd hate to loose a sale. But I don't glut the market.

Some person gave me grief yesterday about the price, but hey, I sold all 8 of them before 6 pm PST, so if they don't like the price, they can go elsewhere. My trader is 24/7 so I usually catch buyers when nobody else is on... during the day, after patches, etc.

[Qayin]

I agree that it looks like there may be a problem with pottery skills post patch. I just did 80+ combines on Casserole dishes and got 0 skill ups. Current skill is 166.

[Unmei]

Nothing seems to be wrong. Did 18 planar steins tonight. Got one skill up. (202 to 203.)

Skillups do still happen. And they're probably still as arse rare as they've always been. Nothing is broken.

[Emelyn]

I'm skilling up now from 200-250 and keeping logs of what I made and the associated costs. I'm at 235 now, so it will be another few days at least.

Yesterday started out as an astoundingly bad skill session at 227, went 193 total combines before I saw 228 - I was ready to give it all up. But then the next 7 levels came after 8, 1, 15, 5, 11, 6 and 27 combines each respectively, so I guess it averages out.

[DragantheMonk]

I just recently reached 250 skill. I dont have exact numbers but I can say this....

200 INT during combines.

200-222 opal steins
222-250 star ruby encrusted steins
Received 2 skill ups on about 60 golden idols of tunare before they went trivial.

76k spent on supplies. That is the price for the materials plus donations to guild mates for imbuing, lacquering, enchanting, etc.

Dragan the Monkey - New 250 potter on Zeb

[Harvyst]

"Yesterday started out as an astoundingly bad skill session at 227, went 193 total combines before I saw 228 - I was ready to give it all up. But then the next 7 levels came after 8, 1, 15, 5, 11, 6 and 27 combines each respectively, so I guess it averages out."

Thank god, it's not just me. I am at 75 star ruby combines at skill 225, no skillups.

I'm running out room to put the blasted things.

[Syke Auttic]

I hear you...I have 4 mules filled with pottered goods and am slowly selling them off in the bazaar...finally under 20 crucibles for the first time in a few weeks. :)

[Emelyn]

Bleh, it lost my long post because it made me relog in after I typed it. But here's a summary

200-250 doing a variety of things (not always necesarily the cheapest thing)

1873 total combines = 37.45 combines per skill up

This broke down to:

428 Planar Steins
183 Opal Encrusted Steins
429 Star Ruby Encrusted Steins
40 Green Ceramic Bands
63 White Ceramic Bands
163 Red Ceramic Bands
131 Crucible of Escape
302 Peridot Imbued Idols
114 Emerald Imbued Idols
20 Golden Idols of Tunare

The total cost was just under 72k.

That is all raw cost to make and only includes costs for the wheel, not costs for the kiln. I did not subtract out any money for selling the resulting items in the bazaar or back to the vendor. In fact, I've already recovered that cost from sales in the bazaar and the new PoP items.

Though that figure includes the 20 very expensive golden idols of tunare, but does not include the approx 5% fail rate on the lacquered gems, so I figure it evens out had I made something more ordinary like steins for those 20.

I bought all my tainted planar essences off NPC vendors. All the heavy clay had been saved up in the bank for eons. I did all my own imbuing and enchanting clay and vials of mana. I am a GM jewelcrafter for the lacquered gems.

[BurnReich]

Just did 60 opal stein combines (two hours ago), went from 219-221. Just a bad streak for you.

[Bartox]

average of 30 combines per skill up? guess its not bad.. but its looking more and more like the old tailoring/smithing skillup rate (and worse IMO)

did 60+ combines of casserole dish at 172 skill.. 0 skill ups

granted i am not at 200 yet, but i would hope it would be faster skill up under 200 vs over 200 skill

[Bartox]

since my post...

averaging about 1 skill up per 20 combines.

[Danae]

I did 140 combines last night and went from 200 to 201. :?

[The Dwarf with a Spoon]

I am at 205 and have done 6 stacks of opal steins and have destroyd all but 4. No room and no market. I have not seen a skill up in all that time...

120 Opal steins
20 solsuk Ro Gold Idols
30 + tunare Gold Idols
12 + Crucibles

Not a single skill up. i'm getting burnt out on trying to get to 250 at this rate, but really want to make the PoP combines :x . Would you say the added trouble of doing Crucibles is better to skill on? None of these are selling on Vaz enough to account for the space and time so I just destroy the unfired parts unless a guildy needs one.

[Bartox]

skill 200 to 216 : 494 total combines (planar steins)
skill 216 to 222 : 212 total combines (opal steins)
skill 222 to 230 : 200 total combines (ceramic white bands)
skill 230 to 241 : 320 total combines (imbued idols of various dieties)
skill 241 to 242 : 100 total combines (star ruby encrusted steins)
skill 242 to 243 : 10 total combines (ceramic focus items *PoP only*)

going to just do imbued idols for last 7 points.