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Cylestria
12-07-2002, 11:41 AM
I like threads that keep a running tally of combines for comparision. So... since I FINALLY passed 197 tailoring, I wanted to post the data for my last few skill ups, which happened over a few weeks.

I'll start with the 190's.

Skill - Combines
190 - 31
191 - 42
192 - 49
193 - 48
194 - 5
195 - 5
196 - 1
197 - 71

Currenly 5 combines into 198.

I really felt that I paid for my mid-ninties 'lucky streak' with the two in a row skill up I got from 195 - 196.

Jannelle Silverthorne
12-08-2002, 02:22 PM
Here's my data from Kirasha's run from 190. Skill to 191 was primarily solstice robes and some velious items I'd saved up and burned in a push to be able to do Ethereal silk prior to the patch. Skill from 191 to 211 was all ethereal silk combines the night before the patch.

Skill - combines
190 - 10
191 - 39
192 - 26
193 - 11
194 - 17
195 - 7
196 - 48
197 - 38
198 - 25
199 - 37
200 - 15
201 - 33
202 - 6
203 - 6
204 - 4
205 - 11
206 - 5
207 - 11
208 - 5
209 - 10
210 - 46
211 - 19
212 - 24 So far.


Total from 155 where I started keeping records is as follows.
1206 combines for 56 skill ups. Average 21.5357 combines per skill up.

Worst were 175 at 69 combines and 179 at 71 combines. There were also 6 sub 5 combine skill ups scattered through the range.

AnnaaDruid
12-08-2002, 04:59 PM
Wow, you guys have NO idea how lucky you are to have gotten to that range after the recent changes to tailoring. Between 190 to 205, I didn't have a single skillup that took less than 100 combines, and several took 300+ combines.

Grats though, soon you will be able to fairly reliably make velious tailored items, and you'll start making back *some* of the money you have spent on tailoring... =)

Annaa

Jhavon
12-08-2002, 07:18 PM
168 to 218 both pre and post patch were roughly 19-21 combines per skillpoint...maybe the difference is that I only do skillups with batches of 120-200 combines. /shrug

Jackoal
12-08-2002, 09:54 PM
First I have to say "I WAS PISSED" at the adding of a forge to town in CC. I had spent 3 days fishing in CS to get enough cod for 5 stacks cod oil to go with my 5 stacks of wyvern hides I had collected and save while lvl'ing my 50's. I sold the oil and hide because there is nothing worse then farming ore as a chanter even with reduced wgt bags. ( rant off)

After having no hides or oils I desided to go another way Solstice robes. So off the EK with my SK. Sure I was taking all the spider but hey need them silks. After collectin 650 silk swatches (1300 silks). I PL an elf cleric to lvl 29.(can you believe people want 500pp per stack of imbue emeralds). For 2 days on and off I imbue 33 stacks of emeralds ( thank god for having a lvl 61 chanter on 2nd account, unlimited C3). Emeralds done. Next spend the next 3 hours making celestrial essence (Varent really need to have a vender sell per-made). Anyone know what it's like to sit down and make 2600 celestrial essence? (It sux a$$). Essence done. Spend the next 1-2 hours making the scared silks. 600 scared done, Next on to the gem studded collar. Buy a stack of emeralds, rubies, and sapphire. (dont remerber the total pp spent but it was alot) Out of the 20 attmpts at collar I had made 12, thats with 260 int, 250 JC skill and tinker item. So now I have all the stuff need for 200 combines on solstice robe. I dont watch skill ups because it doesnt go up. So off to find a littel corner in an empty building. Start combining, I started with a skill of 187 by the time i was out of silks, I had made 9 robes and skill was at 195, was hoping to get to 200 or higher but guess it's off EK to farm more silks.

Jackoal chanter of the 61 season and master of all trade skill
Vallon Zek

JC 250
Pottery 200
Fishing 200
Fletching 200
Tailoring 195
Brewing 190
Baking 189
Smithing 188

tnexus
12-09-2002, 05:23 AM
Don't have the specific numbers, but

400 arctic wyvern masks (163-191)
100 mithril masks (191-193)
105 PoTC robes (194-197) (whopping 2 robes made)

255 Wis doing these, be thankful for your 9 robes, thats a lot...

Tnex

Woodeckt
12-09-2002, 08:51 AM
Quote: Anyone know what it's like to sit down and make 2600 celestrial essence?

Yes I do oh yes I do. I make all of my own Coldain Velium Tempers as well as all of the Essence for the Robes. OUCH.

Back to the topic of tailoring runs I do not have my specific numbers but dang I have to say it has gotten a bit easier. I know from 190 to 201 it took me a month or so of 20 or more combines per night. Now I seem to have hit the wall again at 208. I did a good 40 combines this weekend and nothing for skill.

Ilona
12-09-2002, 09:23 AM
Anyone know what it's like to sit down and make 2600 celestrial essence?
In a word: yes

Though I do usually do them in "sessions" of a hundred or so at a time.

Liwsa
12-09-2002, 10:09 AM
I usually do them while fighting root dot, sit make a few CE's stand dot, sit make some CE's, stand dot, sit make CE's get up and loot. I usually take enough for 10 stacks with me to make.

Liwsa

Wyrdlan
12-09-2002, 10:14 AM
I decided a while back after a couple bags I'd rather be poor than make my own tempers.

Jhavon
12-09-2002, 10:22 AM
After setting up 200 studs (prolly made about 450 tempers) for just one tailoring run I also decided that I'd rather pay 2x as much to save all that hassle and work.

Cylestria
12-09-2002, 10:36 PM
198 -199 took 15 combines (*blink blink* I was surprised)

16 combines into 199

Chenier
12-10-2002, 10:39 AM
Jackoal wrote
Anyone know what it's like to sit down and make 2600 celestrial essence?

Yup. I found the most efficient way to handle the gazillion sub combines was to work on them all simultaneously. So I would sit at the kiln in the Bazaar and imbue emeralds until I was oom, sit down, make enough CE's to process those emeralds through dusts and silks, then make dusts, then make silks. Go to the bank, drop off completed silks and pick up more regular swatches and emeralds and I'd be nearly FM again. If not, make more CE's, pick up more CE supplies. Sometimes I would work with a mule next to me so I wouldn't have to stand up or move (full of CE supplies, silks, emeralds, acid...)

I also used to carry a mortar-n-pestle and celestial solvent with me everywhere - and made CE's from dropped pages and stuff whenever I could, either soloing or in groups.

Moraganth
12-11-2002, 04:56 AM
from 158:

159 - 27 attempts - 1 raptor mask
160 - 12 attempts - 1 raptor mask
161 - 12 attempts - 1 b panther bracer
162 - 11 attempts - 1 wyvern mask
163 - 4 attempts - 2 wyvern masks
164 - 11 attempts - 1 wyvern mask
165 - 66 attempts - 2 wyvern masks, 1 b panther sleeve
166 - 15 attempts
167 - 13 attempts - 1 wyvern mask
168 - 12 attempts - 2 raptor masks
169 - 10 attempts - 1 fleeting, 6th shawl
170 - 18 attempts
171 - 4 attempts
172 - 71 attempts - 1 wyvern mask, 1 fleeting, 1 stud tunic, 4 stud cloaks
173 - 5 attempts
174 - 24 attempts
175 - 22 attempts
176 - 99 attempts - 6 wyvern masks, 2 stud cloaks, 1 fleeting
177 - 37 attempts - 6 wyvern masks
178 - 77 attempts - 1 stud tunic, 6 potc robes, 2 stud cloaks, 1 rei legs, 1 rei tunic
179 - 39 attemps - 6 stud cloaks, 2 rei legs, 2 potc robes
180 - 3 attempts
181 - 5 attempts
182 - 37 attempts - 1 potc robe, 1 wyvern mask, 1 rei tunic
183 - 11 attempts - 7 stud cloaks, 1 stud belt, 1 stud mask, 1 stud tunic
184 - 44 attempts - 5 stud masks, 1 wyvern mask
185 - 7 attempts
186 - 8 attempts - 1 wyvern mask
187 - 17 attempts - 1 wyven mask
188 - 24 attempts - 1 potc robe, 4 stud masks, 1 wyvern mask
189 - 25 attempts - 1 rei tunic, 2 rei boots, 3 rei wrist, 1 rei shoulder, 1 rei cap
190 - 61 attempts - 1 wyvern masks, 1 rei legs, 4 rei wrists, 1 othmir cap, 1 shaded hide tunic
191 - 31 attempts - 1 wyvern mask
192 - 22 attempts - 2 wyvern masks
193 - 23 attempts - 4 rei masks, 4 rei wrists
194 - 16 attempts - 13 rei wrists, 1 fleeting

**** tailoring changes ****

195 - 18 attempts - 3 fleeting, 1 shaded hide legs
196 - 11 attempts
197 - 22 attempts
198 - 19 attempts - 1 wyvern mask
199 - 3 attempts
200 - 1 attempt :D
201 - 4 attempts
202 - 22 attempts - 2 wyvern masks
203 - 3 attempts - 1 wyvern mask
204 - 60 attempts - 1 wyvern mask, 8 potc robes
205 - 4 attempts - 1 potc robe
206 - 15 attempts - 2 potc robes
207 - 65 attempts - 7 potc robes, 3 wyvern masks
208 - 17 attempts - 4 wyvern masks
209 - 8 attempts - 1 wyvern mask
210 - 30 attempts - 2 wyvern mask, 2 rei gloves, 2 rei legs, 1 rei cap, 1 rei boots
211 - 9 attempts - 9 ether energies
212 - 31 attempts -11 ether energies, 3 wyvern masks, 1 b panther legs
213 - 8 attempts
214 - 154 attempts - 8 wyvern masks, 8 rei wrists, 4 raptor masks :twisted:
215 - 5 attempts - 2 raptor masks
216 - 15 attempts - 3 raptor maksa
217 - 22 attempts - 4 raptor masks
218 - 1 attempt :D
219 - 46 attempts - 7 wyvern masks
220 - 5 attempts - 2 wyvern masks
221 - 24 attempts - 2 wyvern masks
222 - 11 attempts - 2 wyvern masks
223 - 29 attempts - 6 wyvern masks, 1 potc robe
224 - 33 attempts - 7 potc robes
225 - 26 attempts - 8 potc robes
226 - 1 attempt - 1 rei gloves :D
227 - 17 attempts - 1 rei wrist, 2 potc robes, 1 b panther legs
228 - 56 attempts - 1 b panther legs, 1 b panther boots, 2 rei tunics, 2 rei wrists, 8 wyvern masks
229 - 26 attempts - 7 wyvern masks, 6 drake belts
230 - 34 attempts - 8 drake belts, 1 robe of ellipse, 6 robes of wings
231 - 13 attempts - 13 robes of wings
232 - 22 attempts - 4 rei wrists, 4 wyvern masks, 1 othmir cap
233 - 17 attempts - 5 wyvern masks, 1 othmir cap
234 - 30 attempts - 2 othmir caps, 1 wyvern wrist, 13 drake belts, 3 b panther legs
235 -