Skilling up

[Faymar]

This post has been updated from various comments to this thread taken into account; thank you again for your help on this. Fish rolls have now been reinstated as the fastest and cheapest way to 135. I've rearranged it to include a section on PoP baking, and shifted the "Halas Meat Pie" avenue to the end as it's not really a common route. I've also taken the "max success route" and switched it from "all vendor bought" (may as well do fishrolls if you want to buy everything!) and included LoY recipes as they have better stats than most of the lower level recipes.

Last update: 02 May 2003.


<FONT SIZE="+2">So you want to be a baker?</FONT><P>
The "simplest" and funnest route to becoming a baker is simply to keep an eye out for anything that looks bakeable and find a way to cook it. However, a lot of people seem to be asking how "best" to get baking up fast and are willing to throw plat at the problem. Ask 20 people and you'll get 20 different responses as to the "best" path, but these are some of the more popular routes with a focus on buyable components.

There is no benefit (in terms of skill ups) to doing recipes close to your skill level, but it DOES mean you will have a lot more goodies to nibble and pass around. It's a very personal decision, but I've tried to outline some of the more common routes to getting baking up.

<FONT SIZE="+2">Getting to 191</FONT>

<FONT SIZE="+1">Jump Ahead</FONT>
I previously recommended filleting meat to get ahead; however with the price changes this is no longer an economic option. Back to fishrolls. ;)

The cheapest (and I think fastest) route to get to 191:

<UL>
<LI>Purchase fresh fish and batwings (see the http://www.eqtraders.com/location/baking.htmTrade Supplies</A> for all locations; personally I would use Plane of Knowledge to avoid faction issues and have batwings, fresh fish and an oven all in the same zone) and combine them in a spit or oven to make fishrolls to skill level 135.
<LI>Buy a ton of cheese from Jagged Pine (as an example, you'll need 40 stacks of cheese to run from 135 skill to 189 with 221 wisdom) and a non-stick frying pan (smithed). Note there are two cheese vendors in Jagged Pine (human and gnoll), so you can buy whatever your alignment. To my knowledge, the gnolls will sell to everyone (including Iksars) except possibly High Elves...as long as you do not kill them in JP.

Head over to a butcher (Thurgadin or Shadow Haven).
<LI>Combine Bear or Lion meat and bread and cheese and Non Stick frying pan (smithed item, sketch sold in Jagged Pine) in an oven or spit until trivial 191.
</UL>


<FONT SIZE="+1">Maximising Successes</FONT>
These recipes are all based on items that are easy to get, the only additional utensil you will need is a mixing bowl, which does take a top slot. All recipes are combined in an oven or spit. This is slower and less cost-effective but means you can keep your alts and mules fed for life.

You can obviously skip any of these steps and jump to the next if you can't be bothered stocking up on various ingredients.

Both Thurgadin and Shadowhaven have butchers and ovens if you are buying meat.
<UL>
<LI>Combine various meat and bread to make sandwiches until trivial trivial 31 (note the trivials change depending on the meat, see the http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_baking.htmBaking Recipes Page</A> to get them in the right order, too many to list!)
<LI>Pickle meats (bixie, froglok, lizard, alligator, troll) with jug of sauces and vinegar in a spit until trivial 51.
<LI>Combine meat (bear, gator, mammoth, lion, rat or wolf) with spices and short beer until trivial 68
<LI>Pickle velious meats (most common are frost/storm giant meat, wurm, wyvern, but if you want to use dragon meat be my guest) with a jug of oyster sauce and seaweed vinegar until trivial 75 (88 for the giant meat)
</UL>
Really don't want to make fish rolls? Okay, head to the Gulf of Gunthak and do some fishing. Some interesting recipes there:

<UL>
<LI>Combine gunthak gourami, nonstick frying pan (smithing) and butter (baked) until trivial (and tell us what it is when you find it!)
<LI>Combine the sea cucumber with a jug of sauces, spices and a pot to 148.
<LI>If you can forage, combine your bay seaweed with spices and a smoker to 152.
<LI>Combine Moray Eel, with a jug of sauces and skewers to 155.
</UL>


A separate route to skilling up in the Freeport area was put forward by Foxtar:

<UL>
<LI>Edible Goo to 21 (whoever named this crap edible should have his or her taste buds checked for signs of life)
<LI>Wolf and Bear Sandwiches to 31 (I loved getting my revenge that way for the many deaths at their paws and teeth)
<LI>Batwing Crunchies to 46 (just remember to keep the wings wrapped up, they dry out very quickly)
<LI>Beer Braised Rat, Bear, Lion or Wolf to 68 (just depending on what I could get my mace on)
<LI>Fish Fillets to 82 (an endless supply of fish can be found at the Freeport dock)
<LI>Fish Rolls to 135 (by this time I was starting to get really sick of the taste of fish)
<LI>Fruit Pies to 142 (I love being able to forage)
</UL>

At this point you'll need to start using forages or drops and/or some additional utensils. A typical route would be to hunt brownies and do the chocolate recipes or head to Jagged Pine and experiment with different types of pasta or stick to the pattymelts. If you are hunting in Luclin, centi drops can be combined into steak or stew until 188. Get a dairy spoon and you can make creamy fennel sauce to 156 which will be useful later for your Halas Pies (see below) . I'm loathe to recommend too much from here as it really depends on where you are hunting, your best bet is to take a look at http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_baking.htmthe EQTraders recipes</A> and make a decision as to how you want to continue to be a productive baker from there.


<FONT SIZE="+2">Breaking 200</FONT><P>
<FONT SIZE="+1">Now what can I make?</FONT>

Breaking trivial 200 in baking has become a lot easier with recent patches, but it still necessitates a lot of time. Misty Thicket Picnics and Halas Meat Pies (see below) have components that are pretty trivial to get, but it's a lot of combines. If you are trying to avoid setting up a mule for baking one dish alone, you may want to look at these alternatives.

The key issue is whether it's easier for you to get drops off mobs or to forage. If you can forage, then you'll want to look at Ohabah Truffles, Cinna-Sticks, or vegetable casseroles.

In my experience the mushrooms are the easiest to get in bulk (coerce foragers or even roll your own) -- look for Luclin zones with a low forage table (Echo Caverns is my favourite) to collect them quickly.

<UL>
<LI>Combine 2 milk, benzoin (alchemy supply) and a dairy spoon in a mixing bowl (cream) until trivial 83
<LI>Combine cream, frosting, brown algae (bought off the brewing vendor in Cobalt Scar), eucalyptus (alchemy supply) in mixing bowl (dark chocolate creme) until trivial 138
<LI>Combine dark chocolate cream, mushrooms and frosting (Ohabah Truffles, miraculous meal, DEX+6, AGI+6, WIS-1, INT-1) until trivial 202
</UL>

Less combines (and more newbies foraging and willing to sell) are the Cinna-sticks, although it does mean killing pixies en masse.

<UL>
<LI>Combine 3 pixie dust (farm them in Lesser Faydark) and a cinnamon stick (foraged in Greater Faydark) in a mixing bowl (Pixie Powder Cinnesticks, snack, AGI+2, sv magic+2) to 202
</UL>

The Jagged Pine casseroles still involves farming for eggs (Basilisks, found in Lavastorm and Basilisk Genitors found in Jagged Pine) but trivial higher (250) and depending on your level you may be able to exp while you are farming. Cheese is sold in Jagged Pine at two different vendors depending on your faction (human and gnoll vendor). The casserole dish is a pottered item, the sketch is only sold in Jagged Pine.

<UL>
<LI>Combine egg, flour and water in a spit (noodles, snack)
<LI>Foragers: combine Plant Shoots, cheese, noodles and a casserole dish in an oven or spit.
<LI>Farmers: combine griffon Meat or anaconda meat, cheese, noodles and a casserole dish in an oven or spit.
</UL>

<FONT SIZE="+1">I spend my time in the Planes, can't I bake there?</FONT>

If you have access to the Plane of Power zones, then you may want to look at foraging or fishing for easy skill ups past 191. Note that you don't need to use the Tanaan oven for these if you have a collapsible spit, so you can spend a lovely sunny afternoon fishing and combining.

<UL>
<LI>You can forage safely at the zone in to Plane of Justice (Tier 1, as long as you have PoP and are level 46 or over, you can enter) which will get you cockroaches, breadcrumbs (see fishing option below) and justice fruit.
<LI>Combine four cockroaches with a cup of sugar (bought in Plane of Knowledge) in a spit until skill level 202
<LI>Storm Salmon (Plane of Storms), Giant Halibut and Giant Snapper (Plane of water) can be combined with a jug of sauces in a tanaan oven to 208.
<LI>Breaded varieties of these fish will take you to 222: combine the fish, breadcrumbs (the ones you foraged in PoJ), jug of sauce and garnish.
<LI>You're finally ready for Justice Fruit Pies: combine the foraged justice fruit, a clump of dough, frosting, 2 celestial essense and muffin tin in an oven or spit until trivial 250.
</UL>

<FONT SIZE="+1">From 0 to 226 with Halas 10lb Meat Pie</FONT>
This route is specifically aimed at skilling up en route to making the famous Halas pies, although you'll need to do a <i>lot</i> of mammoth and wolf hunting to max out on it. Lion and Bear meat can both be bought at the butchers. This isn't the simplest of methods, but if your goal is simply to make Halas Pies, you may as well skill up on the pre-combines.

Additional items you will need to make or have made for you: a dairy spoon, a filleting knife, a mixing bowl and a pie tin.

This gets a bit silly because you need the cream to make the creamy sauce, and the creamy sauce trivials <i>under</i> the cream, so you'll need to swap back and forth between the recipes if you want to stay under the trivial. On the other hand, fennel is expensive! So the cheaper route is to not make the sauce until cream is trivial.

Be sure to look at the different types of egg as the dough yield varies tremendously (this is true for noodles too).

<UL>
<LI>Combine egg (farmed), flour and milk in a mixing bowl (clump of dough) until trivial 17.
<LI>Combine 2 milk, benzoin (alchemy supply) and a dairy spoon in a mixing bowl (cream) until trivial 83.
<LI>Combine cream, fennel (alchemy supply) and flour in a mixing bowl (creamy fennel sauce) until trivial 75.
<LI>Combine filleting knife and one piece of meat (fillet of ____) to trivial 143.
<LI>Combine fillet of ___ and creamy fennel sauce (___ fillet in cream) to trivial 152.
</UL>

Now you are ready to make pies until trivial 226:

<UL>
<LI>Combine 2 clumps dough, wolf fillet in cream, bear fillet in cream, lion fillet in cream, mammoth fillet in cream and a sage leaf (alchemy supply) with a pie tin in the oven (won't fit in a spit)
</UL>

This will create six pies: miraculous meal, DEX 5, STA 5, AGI 5, HP 30. These weigh 7 stone and only fit into GIANT sized slots.

<B>Note:</B> you need to watch the yields on this. For example, if you wanted to do 80 combines, assuming you never failed you would need:
<blockquote>

80 fileted mammoth meat in sauce = 80 fileted mammoth meat = 8 mammoth meat
80 fileted wolf meat in sauce = 80 fileted wolf = 8 wolf meat
80 fileted bear meat in sauce = 80 fileted bear = 80 bear meat
80 fileted lion meat in sauce = 80 fileted lion = 80 lion meat

320 creamy fennel sauce = 54 cream, 54 flour, 54 fennel
54 cream = 7 benzoin, 14 milk
160 clumps of dough = (varies based on egg)
80 sage leaves
1 pie tin
</blockquote>

(Thanks to Feoni for doing the maths)


<FONT SIZE="+2">I'm almost there, what are my options to 250!</FONT><P>

To find out the recipes for these, take a look at http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_baking.htmEQtraders recipes</A>.

You can do it with a lot of space and a lot of combines without serious killing making:
<UL>
<LI>Misty Thicket Picnic (250)
</UL>

Take a look at http://mboards.eqtraders.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=64this post</A> for details on making picnics.

Or by being lucky with drops (note I'm only including drops from Tier 1 planes):
<UL>
<LI>Anaconda melt (250)
<LI>Cheesy anaconda casserole (250)
<LI>Cheesy griffon casserole (250)
<LI>Dragon Steak (250)
<LI>Candied Tae Ew (250)
<LI>Tae Ew Pie (250)
<LI>Slarghilug Stuffed Poppers (250)
<LI>Swamp Rat Crunchies (250)
<LI>Blood Raven Stew (250)
<LI>Hobgoblin Surprise (250)
</UL>
Or by dedicated foraging and some eggs:
<UL>
<LI>Cheesy Vegetable Casserole (250)
<LI>Justice Fruit Pies (250)
</UL>

[Aikirrea]

You forgot the Storm Salmon Fillet !!!!

[Caela]

I'm at 206, and not a forager, but do know one...

We've been camped out in Jagged Pine for a while now, killing griffons, anacondas, and my forager friend picking up plant shoots from the ground. (and of course checking the vendors, but darn patches...) We are getting good xp, though the anacondas nearly kill us. I was also able to buy a small amount of Griffon meat from the bazaar, but I don't want to spend too much doing that since the yield on this stuff is just one per combine.

Luckily the skill ups are coming along fairly nicely.... I did about 30 combines the other day, and had two skill increases.

I saw somewhere (not sure where), that someone was making Anaconda Stir Fry to skill up on.... Not sure why you would want to do that... You are using two precious commodities on one combine (anaconda meat and plant shoots). Much better to go buy some bread and cheese and use the anaconda meat on the melts and the plant shoots on veggie casseroles.

[Faymar]

You forgot the Storm Salmon Fillet !!!!

No, I didn't forget it, I excluded things that need access to tier 2 zones in the interests of brevity and in the hopes I wouldn't end up causing more questions.

[Faymar]

I saw somewhere (not sure where), that someone was making Anaconda Stir Fry to skill up on.... Not sure why you would want to do that... You are using two precious commodities on one combine (anaconda meat and plant shoots). Much better to go buy some bread and cheese and use the anaconda meat on the melts and the plant shoots on veggie casseroles.

Yep saw this as well (same thing with the pate's, which also need a meat and a plant shoot)... I can't see why you would want to half the amount of potential combines you can do. I made griffon, anaconda and plantshoot casseroles whenever I manage to get some in stock again (melts are all triv).

[sir0die]

excellent work :D

[Psychax]

I also want to say excellent work. Gives me the information i need and the options of which route i'd like to take. :D
Thanks

[Calabar]

This is a great post. I really hope it can be made into a sticky once you feel you are finished with it. It’s the answer to what is most likely the most popular trade skill question.

One thing you might want to address, if it doesn’t add too much to your guide, is some of the yields. Those who have never made Halas Pies, for example, could get into a lot of trouble with their bank space if they buy stacks of 20 for making cream and sauce. My bank box is still overflowing with it and I think I may have to just sell some of it off. And I’ve found the noodle yields per egg to be rather frustrating for Cheesy Vegetable Casserole. Looted basilisk eggs yield 15 dough but, I believe, only two noodles. I didn’t want to waste my basilisk eggs on noodles so I’ve been farming snakes in newbie areas. Between the farming time and all the single combines, I’m not sure this is the best rout to take. *shrugs* But someone new to baking the casserole might be in for a nasty surprise if they haven’t looked up the egg yield.

Thanks for putting this information together.

[Faymar]

Very good point, I'll look to add yield information and on the misty thicket picnics link to the other post which goes into detail of how much of each base product you need to make a batch.

[Snarina]

I've found that the WW/ToV egg forages to be much better for making noodles. There's 3 kinds of eggs that you can forage so they come along rather quickly. The dragon eggs yield 8 noodles, wurm eggs yield 4, and drake eggs yield 3. Keep in mind to have decent CoV if you want to do this, or it might cost you more than a little time.

[Faymar]

<I>The dragon eggs yield 8 noodles, wurm eggs yield 4, and drake eggs yield 3</I>

Wow, great. I can't forage, and my foraging friends tend to be tailors, so I didn't have these figures. Will update shortly to include this, thanks.

-Fay

[Kalmia]

Under the section about making Halas Pies after 191 skill, it says:

Combine egg (farmed), flour and milk in a mixing bowl (clump of dough) until trivial 17

But under the section about not making Pies after 191 skill, it says:

Combine egg, flour and milk (noodles, snack)

Water needs to be substituted for milk in the ingredients list.

Great guide, but I just wanted to point that out as it may cause confusion.

[Lilosh]

<I>The dragon eggs yield 8 noodles, wurm eggs yield 4, and drake eggs yield 3</I>

Wow, great. I can't forage, and my foraging friends tend to be tailors, so I didn't have these figures. Will update shortly to include this, thanks.

-Fay

Just know that with the money you can selkl drake and Dragons eggs for, you can buy Hundreds of Snake eggs.

Dragon Eggs are used for tailoring and fishing. They make decent items.

Drake Eggs are used it Velious Tailoring, and make good items.


Tailors buy both for a fair amount. Especially Dragon Eggs.


-Lilosh

[Faymar]

Argh, can you tell I generally make dough when I wanted noodles and vice versa?

That's fixed, have added a link to the misty thicket picnic guide, will add a link to pies too, shortly, but todays my EQ day and I want to rush off and play ;)

[Windru Peacekeaper]

Excellent Guide!

My halfling rogue is helping a guildie do his Shar Val beastlord tradeskills, so I MQ'd the citizenship, and started the rogue baking parts at 72 skill. The easiest thing for me was to just make the East Commons to East Freeport run, making Fishrolls from bat wings and fresh fish.

Over the course of a couple nights, because I bored easily, I went from 72 to 127 skill...55 points on 560 combines. That is the part that I was most happy about, approximately 1 skill up every 10 attempts, or 2 skillups per stack. The Shar Val rogue baking for the Sonic Weapons trivials at 130 to 135, so I am within range.

I did this with no buffs, other than my own Rogue-STR buff, Mrylokar's Vambraces. I have a feeble WIS and INT :(

EDIT: 12/23
I finished baking to 135 on 37 more skillups, so my summary is 72 to 135, 65 skillups on a total of 597 tries...(596, the last one to confirm the trivial :) about a skillup every 9 attempts, with no buffs and simple rogue wisdom and intelligence...

Cibbas Sneakystone, 51 Rake on Cazic-Thule
Windru Peacekeaper, 51 Wanderer on Cazic-Thule
Bofor Shinystone, 54 Illusionist on Cazic-Thule

[Bindamel]

Just a note on forager's baking:

Apricot Marmalade + Bread --> Marmalade Sandwich, also trivial 99, so for every success on a fruit/frosting combine, you can get six more skillup chances just by buying bread (and having a mixing bowl)

[Sitkan]

Currently I have access to all of the elemental planes. My question to you wonderful bakers: do you feel it would be easier to get the components from the elemental planes and use that for skilling to 250, or stick with picnics to get me to 250? Mostly I'm referring to the fishing in PoWater were you can get Giant Halibut and Giant Snapper. Just looking for some ideas on what you guys and gals think.

[Bier Drynker]

Thanks for the excellent tips. One question. Is it worthwhile at 191 to just move on to Anaconda and Griffon melts or should I try some of the intermediates like the cinna stix to break 200.

[Faymar]

I've updated the post to include:

yield info on pies
skilling up on fish in the high pop tiers
a clearer note on egg yields (I can't see that it's really worth including the full discussion about which eggs to what for dough/noodles and the cheapest route (selling to tailors and buying lower yield ones) as the document is already over-long)
marmalade sandwiches as they are my "signature snack."


It's very hard to say what is "best" in terms of which route to use. I didn't like cinna-sticks due to the slow forage plus having to farm pixie dust, but others have done very well out of it. I love fishing, so an option of fishing and then a simple combine is perfect for me, (so yes, I've finally included the 208 fish trivs) but it's a lot of fishing time. I've not included the breaded versions, despite higher trivs, as it includes foraging and a more involved combine, so isn't, to my mind, a short cut. I've left it out in the interest of brevity.

I've also left the "250+ options" as is, without reference to the higher tier pop planes. I guess it's kind of arbitrary but with the exception of fish (a two component combine to 208 is just awesome *grin*) I want to try to keep this guide as viable for players regardless of level/alignment/guild status.

As always, comments welcome.

[Eileah]

Hi,

Just thought I would mention the Candied Cockroaches, I forage them by the buckets in PoJ and one cockroach and 3 sugars make Candied Cockroaches, Trivia 202

Love this place btw, thank you so much for all the wonderful help.

Eileah

[Turlie Silverwine]

isn't it 3 cockroach and 1 sugar?

heh - just nitpicking . ..I could have made a lot more cockroaches if the recipie were reversed ... wish it was .... hate those mushrooms ... .

[Eileah]

Actually it's four cockroaches one sugar and one water ;)

Eileah Deltorros

[Lady Mirrina Goldenheart]

Sorry to go a tweeny bit off topic but I needed to ask about the
frequency of skill ups.

I have gear that gives me just over 150 Wis, and I am at 193
skill. I think since I have reached 193 I've done about 150 combines
on my Halas Meat Pies with out a skill up.

Is this unusual? I'm just wondering how many of these things I have
to do to get a point. Not that I mind making them, because they've
made me alot of pp.

Thanks in advance,
Mirrina Goldenheart
Lady Paladin of Freeport
(26th season)

[Phabos]

Not unusual. 193 to the mid 200s is hell level for skillups, generally speaking. I am at 206 +/- and I routinely do over 100 combines or more between skillups. You may want to try cinnisticks if you can get them, but the only other advice I can give is keep clicking. Good luck!

Phabos
Drunken Paladin of Brell
Tarew Marr

[Faymar]

I didn't include the cockroaches before the forage time (as it's four cockroaches per combines) is, to my mind, prohibitive. If foragers are seriously using this to skill up on, I may add it.

I'm also considering backing off my "tier one only" restriction as access to PoV/PoS via the trials is becoming more common and I am regularly seeing bakers fishing on the shores of Plane of Storms now. I'd hate for someone to have access to those fish and not realise that it's an easy skill-up because I left it out.

In regards to the new LoY recipes ... I am a bit torn on this as patty melts are still quicker/easier ... however it is nice to have a non-fasttrack "get your own bits" way to get into the 190's and for that reason alone it'd be nice to include.

The problem is, this guide is getting longer and longer and I'm fretting about it becoming totally incomprehensible to new bakers, so I'd really appreciate some feedback regarding inclusions/exclusions ...

[Highlandwisp]

I tried the skillup paths in this thread to go from 0 to 120-something, and I wanted to post some feedback on them.

My biggest gripe is that eucapyptus leaf costs about 4pp each :shock: (cha 131, amiable faction). The sellback price wasn't that great at ~1pp for a successfull combine. Unless you feel like burning plat, I wouldn't suggest this to anyone. The combine also requires a mixing bowl. For those of us just interested in the shawl, it's possible to avoid one and skillup using only the oven/spit. My final grudge against this combine is that each combine produces 10 mints, which killed any free space I had available quickly.

Also if you really want to minimize costs, I would stay away from any recipe that uses beat or lion meat. At indifferent faction in SH, bear or lion meat cost 8s4c, and filleted bear/lion sold back for 1s9c. Compare to fish rolls (indifferent faction in PoK) - fish 2s6c, batwing 1s, fish rolls 4s8c. So making fish rolls is a much cheaper skill up route than filleted bear/lion.

After looking around a bit more I think the best low lvl skillup route is in Oakwood's Guide to Power Baking (http://www.eqtraders.com/learn/learn_baking2.htm) under the Learn a Skill Section. It might be beneficial to look for possible alternative supply locations, since the guide hasn't been updated after the release of PoP. For example, there is a fish and batwing vendor close to each other in PoK, so fish rolls can be made very easily there.

[Faymar]

Note the guide does speak about you want to skill up fast and are willing to throw plat at it... if you are only going for the shawl then I agree, there's no point in buying expensive alchemy ingredients to get to 135 and there is always a question of ease vs. cost. That's why there is not a single method to skilling up but instead various routes you can take.

However, I am very interested in your reference to filleting meats turning out more expensive. I compared purchase prices (but I have a horrible feeling this was before they upped the meat price) without regards to sell-back price as in my mind you would be saving the fillets to make pies or the fish rolls to eat/feed mules with.

Obviously, that's a gap. I'll check the numbers on the basis of selling back everything you've made and update the guide accordingly. Thanks.

[Tinile]

Not sure why anyone would skill up on anything besides fish rolls in PoK. Two items, very cheap to purchase, on two different vendors very close to each other. My enc triv'd these the other night from 35 in about 30 minutes.

[WileeCastus]

I just had to post a message saying thanks to everyone who has contributed to all Trading posts. I must admit that I started off just wanting to Bake but then along came needing some pie tins and cookware. Well, the heck with having to pay someone to do it LOL so I set out to work Pottery & Blacksmithing...so now I am 135 Baking (omw to Thurgadin after stopping off in Jagged Pines), 101 in Pottery, 90 in Smithing, & I threw in Brewing (110) just in case I got thirsty along the way LOL. I must say there is a great feeling attatched to seeing that skill level go up & seeing 'You have made something new !!' I have found a new love in Tradeskills and look forward to GrandMastering some in the future. :D Thanks to everyone involved in the great info here.

Wilee Castusmaximas

[Faymar]

Also if you really want to minimize costs, I would stay away from any recipe that uses beat or lion meat. At indifferent faction in SH, bear or lion meat cost 8s4c, and filleted bear/lion sold back for 1s9c. Compare to fish rolls (indifferent faction in PoK) - fish 2s6c, batwing 1s, fish rolls 4s8c. So making fish rolls is a much cheaper skill up route than filleted bear/lion.



Yep, this is no longer a cheap option. The only reason to skill up on bear/lion meat would be to save things for pies. I will correct the guide, thank you.

[Spyght]

RE: The Cockroach foraging.

Its a lot less prohibiting than you would think .. there are only 4 things on the forage table in PoJ, and most of them are useful in that painful 191-208 territory:

Water
Cockroach
Justice Fruit
Bread Crumbs

PoJ is a wonderful forage zone until Cockroaches and then Breaded Storm Salmon triv.

[Sonador01]

Actually there is a fifth ultra rare item that you can forage in PoJ. What is this ultra rare, at most 1 per hour forage? A simple root. Come on with all the trees in the GY you would expect to have roots once in a while wouldnt' you? :) Overall from my xp in PoJ foraging I get 50% bread crumbs 40% Roaches 9.5% Fruit and 0.5% Roots

[Endara]

IMO, foraging in PoJ is the best if you are looking at the grey area of skilliing up past 191 and dont want to farm or vendor mine. As others have mentioned 3 recipies are available and the non usable stuff (water and root) are the rarest of the items that come up from the zone foraging table.

I am doing pretty good as I 2 box my cleric in Plane of Storms fishing for the thunder salmon and power forage a druid in PoJ. Every once in awhile I run over and pick up the bread crumbs and cockroaches while fishing and unfold my gnome spit. /hug tinkers!

(actually this is a change I would make on your guide: you reference the combines on fish in the planes as only being done in a tanaan oven. These combines with the thunder salmon bread crumbs sauces and garnish work in the collapsable oven that is tinkered)

[Ornette Coalman]

I agree, if you are a forager, foraging in Plane of Justice seems to be the simplest thing to do. Candied Cockroaches to 202, breaded fish to ~220, justice fruit to 250. Everything in the combines can be merchant bought or made from merchant bought items, or fished. Since PoJ's forage table only consists of 4 things (5 if you include the root, but I've never foraged a root during the month or so i've sat there and foraged), of which 3 of them can be used for baking, it seems a better reward/time than farming items.

[Faymar]

Okay, finally got this finished...

Filleting meat and using expensive alchemy ingredients have been taken out, thanks for pointing out the costs.

I've ended up doing a foraging in PoJ section in the 200+ section to cover the cockroach/fish/pie route.

I've totally rejigged the bit of maximising successes ... to be honest I don't like this section at all, there are just too many different recipes to choose from. But I also hated to lose Foxtars Freeport guide and I really don't want to imply that fishrolls are the only option (even if they are clearly the easiest option). Feel free to recommend improvements.

Added in references to collapsible spits for the pop stuff, hope I caught them all.

I may well have broken something in the process of shifting things around. As always, I'm grateful for any comments to help me keep this simple to use for new bakers.

[Quichon]

Being an Iksar, I have a problem because the rest of the races rightfully fear our tendency to see them mainly as baking ingredients and so tend to attack me on sight. So when the strange book appeared in the Field of bone, and I found out how to use it to transport me to New Tannan, I was delightfully surprized at the ingredients I had gained access to.

As has been stated before, the fastest way to 135 is Fish Rolls. Get a spit and go to the back end of PoK (directly opposite the "Neutral" ports like nexus, go AROUND the library) the Tir'Dal (that's Dark Elf for those not so culturally inclined or the slang term "smurf") merchant sells, among other things, batwings. I have confirmed he sells them from stock because I have visited him just after a server reset and he still had them. On the other side of the pool is a big stinky human (I think they call them selves "barbarians"; truly, a better title could not be found) fisherman that sells the fresh fish.

Here is what has not yet been said about fish rolls: They are the perfect food (excluding those that give stats) for monks! Wt is only .1 and it is a banquet sized meal. So us monks, who have to watch our weight, can carry around a stack or two and not have to worry about ungainly poundage to slow us down. Also, it makes great "filler" food for those who want to make their stat food last. It's tiny size so it'll fit in just about any container (except for a quiver). So for about 25pp you make enough fish rolls to triv them and to keep you in fish rolls for a VERY long time. You'll never have to worry about eating (blech) rations again.

The people in Jaged Pines almost certainly will react the same way everyone else to my scaly appearance. Is there anywhere else you might be able to obtain cheese for the melts?

Quichon
Swifttail of the 28th season
"You consider me odd for an Iksar to do something so homely as baking? Perhaps you have never considered whom I bake..."

[Faymar]

The people in Jaged Pines almost certainly will react the same way everyone else to my scaly appearance. Is there anywhere else you might be able to obtain cheese for the melts?


I did try not to forget the evil races:


Buy a ton of cheese from Jagged Pine (as an example, you'll need 40 stacks of cheese to run from 135 skill to 189 with 221 wisdom) and a non-stick frying pan (smithed). Note there are two cheese vendors in Jagged Pine (human and gnoll), so you can buy whatever your alignment. Head over to a butcher (Thurgadin or Shadow Haven).

[Quichon]

The gnoll may sell to ogres, trolls, and Tir'dal, but they will NOT sell to Iksar. Iksar are UNIVERSALLY hated by ALL races with the sole exception of some of those inhabitants on the moon such as Vah Shir and Shadow Haven. Of course, even there I must sneak behind the merchants for them to do business with me.

perhaps I can get a friend to invis me for a merchant run or something...

Quichon
Swifttail of the 28th season

[Moogri]

Nice guide here, I am currently raising my baking skill with Halas 10lb meat pie, and I seem to gain a skill point every 20 combines.
Gathering the fillet for the final combine is troublesome but it's ok ; it's just long to make. Though, what I find frustrating is that you can still fail trivial combines of which are far below your current skill.
The yield is also a pain, I have stocked more than 500 Halas 10lb meat pie on a mule and even gave away tons of them to people wandering around.
EQ will be over before I will eat them all. I guess I will give a stack or two to every guild member instead.

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[Faymar]

The gnoll may sell to ogres, trolls, and Tir'dal, but they will NOT sell to Iksar. Iksar are UNIVERSALLY hated by ALL races with the sole exception of some of those inhabitants on the moon such as Vah Shir and Shadow Haven. Of course, even there I must sneak behind the merchants for them to do business with me.

perhaps I can get a friend to invis me for a merchant run or something...

Quichon
Swifttail of the 28th season

Have you confirmed this there?

I will double-check this later tonight, but when Jagged Pine was first launched, I met an Iksar friend there and showed him the gnoll vendors and banker, which he used without issue.

Having to sneak in SH isn't an iksar-specific issue, you just need to do the faction quest.

[Treefriend]

For Quichon or anyone with acceptance problems in JPF I would recommend you do an ooc in zone and ask a druid to give you wolf form. Druids are usually thicker than fleas on a hound dog here and wolf form both last longer than invis and is user friendly with both people and critters (except griffs and potemaids). I have done this several time and almost always will if a player identifies themself as a tradeskill person ;) .

[Treefriend]

Faymar wrote: "I've totally rejigged the bit of maximising successes ... to be honest I don't like this section at all, there are just too many different recipes to choose from. But I also hated to lose Foxtars Freeport guide and I really don't want to imply that fishrolls are the only option (even if they are clearly the easiest option). Feel free to recommend improvements."

Faymar, I bow to your extensive work on this subject. Without you and other such dedicated trades persons EQ would have dried up for me long ago. I would never have the patience to discover these formulas on my own.

I also encourage you to continue to provide as much information as possible. Choices are better made with more input. If some think "out of the box" and find a better "best" way, it will open new paths to others. For the vast majority this URL is a feast to be enjoyed. For those that want only the very simplest of answers so they can PL their skills with the least amount of thinking. :( ...well, please don't let their impatience dilute this stew.

[Faymar]

The gnoll may sell to ogres, trolls, and Tir'dal, but they will NOT sell to Iksar. Iksar are UNIVERSALLY hated by ALL races with the sole exception of some of those inhabitants on the moon such as Vah Shir and Shadow Haven. Of course, even there I must sneak behind the merchants for them to do business with me.

perhaps I can get a friend to invis me for a merchant run or something...

Quichon
Swifttail of the 28th season

This is incorrect. I have now personally taken an iksar there and bought cheese. There is no issue buying from the gnolls nor using their bank.


If anyone can find a race that can NOT buy from the gnolls (halflings are fine, possibly high elves are not?) could you please post here?

[Mossglade]

I highly suggest the JP recipes(especially the griffon and anaconda melts) for skill ups because they are the easiest by far. There aren't many items needed and very few required, plus it's a small combine. Unfortunately, it seems like plant shoots forage more rarely now but if you they are still an added bonus while hunting griffons and anacondas. One thing about your list: I saw anaconda melts listed but not the griffon ones. Griffon melts provide another route and add to the potential yield of skill ups because they provide yet another recipe from this zone. If you're a baker then there's no better place than JP to farm items for the best recipes on your way to 250, especially if you can track. :)

[Faymar]

I highly suggest the JP recipes(especially the griffon and anaconda melts) for skill ups because they are the easiest by far. There aren't many items needed and very few required, plus it's a small combine. Unfortunately, it seems like plant shoots forage more rarely now but if you they are still an added bonus while hunting griffons and anacondas. One thing about your list: I saw anaconda melts listed but not the griffon ones. Griffon melts provide another route and add to the potential yield of skill ups because they provide yet another recipe from this zone. If you're a baker then there's no better place than JP to farm items for the best recipes on your way to 250, especially if you can track. :)

You are right, I refer to melts up top (in the JP section) but then drop the subject again. I remember thinking casseroles were nice because they have stats, but melts are definitely quicker. I'll fix this.

[Tsekande]

Hmmm....

Thanks for the advice. I'll switch to making the melts...for the Halas Pies, though give nice stats, are something of a royal pain to make. Spirits help me if I think of those Misty Thicket Picnics! Aren't MTP the most exhaustive thing a baker can make? :roll:

You'll see me some more here. I'm somewhat new to the baking scene, but thanks to a tailor of my guild, Myrron...he posts in the Tailoring section I'm sure...he gave me the tradeskill fever, but only baking so far. ;)

Well, I better check the oven for it smells like something's burning! :twisted:

[eriadoc]

Thanks for the help! =)

[Mmroew]

for those who cant forage, try:

Holy Cake <trivial 242>

Winter Chocolate- Brownee parts+frosting<2> in mixing bowl

Celestial Essence<3>- Celestial solvent+scent of mar <get all in POK>

Frosting

Eucalyptus leaf

Clump of dough

cake round

Put all in oven and get 6 Holy Cakes

[Tides]

If you're a bard & lvl 65 with a few FT items and the lvl 64 charm you can easily pull the whole goblin isle and gate away the summoning mobs away from camp then take the rest to the little culdecut past the horse/mephit platform & kill about 15 hobgoblins in 12-15mins by charm/swarm kiting. Not only is this great experience, you'll usually get 5-10 meats a kite. I have 6 stacks in the bank and just realized that making hobgoblin surprise is **** easy.

Recipe is:
* Loaf of bread (vendor)
* Hobgoblin meat
* Pie Tin (never lost)
* Brown Gravy (subcombines are vendor bought except pot which is easily attainable)

So if you are a bard or have access to a bard with charm, some chants, and the gate song then you are well on your way to being a 250 baker ;) -- easiest way imho. plus the aa's add up quick! See you when I get my spoon ;)

http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=6479&menustr=080020060000

[Lenore]

Baking is at 218 now, and I either forage what I need, fish, or buy from traders. Sometimes I get very lucky when traders sell certain meats for a very low price, and that's when I go on a buying spree. When I find brownie parts cheap, I make the holy cake. I have enough food stashed in the bank and on various alts either for holding or for their own consumption, that I can open a restraunt.

[eniamn]

k i didn't see this but might have missed it. when doing patty melts buy the MEAT. leave 3 slots open and an empty spit. go to jaggedpine. buy 1 stack of cheese and 1 loaf of bread (the girl right beside the guy selling cheese) the 3rd slot is for your successes. when you get through your stack of meat buy another stack of cheese and bread and your success stack prolly wont be full yet. just keep doing this till all your meat has turned into patty melts. if you need to store more stuff the banker is right beside the merchant with cheese so load up some empty bank slots too from either shadowhaven (right beside a bank) or thurgadin (not far to bank and dwarves are cool). that is how i did it instead of carrying the stacks of cheese and bread to the meat person. saved me a lot of running.

[Honeygirl]

I bought deluxe toolboxes as they have 10 inventory slots and weigh only 3.5 pounds instead of 25 pounds for the trader satchels that really weigh you down....gotta be able to move =). AND they are large enough to hold your Halas Pies.

Here's what I did to skill up:
I made fish rolls then moved on to patty melts then right on to Halas meat pies. Got up to 193 in 2 days =).

Fish rolls are a snap. Go to the POK Pool where there are unlimited supplies of fresh fish and batwings, buy a spit and combine there at the pool so you dont have to run all over the place. I worked up my fishing skill there as well just for fun =).

Ran over to Jagged Pine and bought about 4 bags worth of cheese for the patty melts then ran over to Thurgadin to make them. Unlimited supplies of the meat and bread at Mordin's Meats and hardly anyone goes there to use the oven.

The bad thing about the Halas pies is that you need to farm wolf and mammoth meat, but the good thing is that they make 10 fillets each, instead of one like the bear and lion meat. Make sure you have enough space to make your cream, and then the creamy fennel sauce. I suggest having all your bags available to make this because there are a lot of sub combines before you do the final combine to make the pie. Then you will need to put your finished pies in a container that can hold large objects....hence buying the deluxe toolboxes (which can fit the pies) VS the Trader satchels that weigh too much.

[Gaell Stormracer]

The Shared Bank slots and platinum makes the Patty Melt route an utterly trivial thing, as long as you can park a 'spare' alt at either the Human or (safer) the Gnolls.

PS: Iksar MONKS can Sneak to deal with absolutely any merchant... Shei Vintras included. :D Other classes may need to build up a little trust with them by doing a little baking for them.

[Baldaek]

Baking to 135 shouldn't even be talked about, the combines are so redundant and simple.

136 to 142 is relatively easy as well, make whatever pies you want or FG/SG steaks.

to 152 meats for the HMP in the creamy sauce

Then set aside some eggs and do Pinemyer Pasta to 191! Noodle, spice, jug of sauces = quick easy combines, only 1 subcombine (noodles) and no camping required. You can do so, you just don't have to anymore.

Ohabah Truffles are an easy way to 200 or so, helps to have a forager who is skilling up their smithing by doing the Shadowscream line. However, since mushrooms are foraged in almost all Luclin zones, shouldn't be that hard to find some on vendors or in the bazaar. Brown Algae is needed here for the major sub-combine, but you also need brown algae for Coldain Heaters (and eventually Coldain Velium Tempers) for several other tradeskills uses.

Now back to the cheesy meats... HMP's to 226 or thereabouts. Long prep-time pays off with hefty returns on the bazaar mule at 4 to 8 (or more, depending) plat per pie, your pottery/tailoring bill is reduced greatly.

From 227 on, hodge-podge! Justice Fruits, Jord Meats, Anaconda, Griffon, Vann Toes, Blood Raven parts, MTP's, Hobgob meat, etc. can all be healthy ways to get to the vaulted Frugal Gourmet status!

Happy Martha Stewarting!

[Vortexx]

Hello, I'm new to the board but not to tradeskilling. I'm sorry, no disrespect meant, but I'm going to have to disagree with the following comment:


There is no benefit (in terms of skill ups) to doing recipes close to your skill level, but it DOES mean you will have a lot more goodies to nibble and pass around.

It is in my opinion and my experiences in baking (which I have done A LOT of on many different characters), that if something is closer to your current skill level in trivial, you have a better chance of gaining skill ups. I don't know if this is because you have more successes, and maybe you're more likely to skill up on a success (though I don't know if this has been proven), or just the simple fact that it's closer to your skill level.

The reason I say this is in my skill period of 190-220 approximately in baking, the only two things I do mainly are (1) Halas 10lb Meat Pie & (2) Misty Thicket Picnic.

In that period on my current character (a pure intelligence caster with 255 INT, mind you) I put together 3 sets of 100 combine attempts each of Halas 10lb Meat Pies, and Misty Thicket Picnics.

After attempting 100 of each, I gained 5-8 skill ups out of 100 combine attempts of Halas 10lb Meat Pies at anywhere between 190-220 skill in baking. At the same number of attempts on Misty Thicket Picnics only 1-3 skill ups (3 was lucky). I did this again and observed the same pattern.

If anyone isn't aware the trivial on Halas Pies is approx. 220, while Mistys are shown to be 335 with the new tradeskill UI.

This is why I believe attempting combines closer to your current skill level in trivial yields more successes (of course) AS WELL as more skill ups.

I can't prove this 100% in any way, but I just wanted to share my experiences and why I believe it is smarter when skilling up to attempt combines closer in trivial to your skill level.

Sorry about the long rant.

[Crydee Ossiriand]

One recipe that I think is extremely underrated for skill ups is Holy Cake.

3 Celestial Essence
1 Clump of Dough
1 Eucalyptus Leaf
1 Frosting
1 Winter Chocolate [1 Brownie Parts, 2 Frosting]

A few of the ingredients can be a bit pricy, namely the Eucalyptus Leaf and Celestial Essence stuff but farming Brownie Parts is extrmely easy - especially if you're ranger with a port breastplate. Just gate yourself to lesser faydark, run over to the brownie town and kill them for their parts. Now check tracking for Thistle Underbrush and Brownie Outcasts as they can also drop parts. If you can handle them, the roaming brownie scouts can also drop parts. I would do this twice a day, once when I logged in and again before camping.

The other nice thing about holy cake is that it doesn't require nearly as many combines as either misty thicket picnics or halas 10lb meat pies. Also, the combine yields for holy cake is fairly high. Given that your bazaar isn't flooded with holy cake, you should be able to price so that it is very cheap yet still covers your expenses.

Holy Cake trivals at 242 though, but if you follow the theory of better skill ups when making things closer to trivial - it is worthwhile to consider.

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Finally if you're a tracking class, take a trip out the jaggedpine forest for anaconda and griffon meat. [Griffon meat drops off all varieties of griffons in this zone and drops their meat far more than anacondas do theirs.] There are a bunch of recipes that will take you all the way to 250 using either griffon or anaconda meat as its main ingredient which requires farming. Again not nearly as many combines as mtps or 10lb pies.

[KyrosKrane]

Nedaria's Landing, the new zone added just before GoD launched, is a superb place to farm for meat and pelts. The animals there are lower level than Jaggedpine, but seem to share similar loot tables -- you can get griffon meat off the various griffon-like mobs, anaconda meat off the snakes, and so on. The wolves, bears, and cats in the region drop quality pelts (I've never seen a ruined pelt drop) that can be used in tailoring or smithing (as leather padding). The forage table includes plant shoots, which can be used in baking as well as other tradeskills. There's a magus there, which makes for much easier travel than Jaggedpine, but there's no banker. You can also run to Jaggedpine (one zone away) if you have to bank.

[eniamn]

holy cake are a lot more expensive to make. it also uses 1 brownie part per cake combine. mtps use 1 for 100 combines. it is an idea if you can farm the brownies hardcore but if you can't yet its not that viable. even if you can the mtps are cheaper per combine to make and you can get a larger number in a shorter time.

[Kudikai]

If you have a good source of plat like I did... (thanks to being a GM Potter)

I took a different approach after Halas Pies.

First I tried the Tuna and Crag Souffles...I was pissed after wasting countless hours farming snake eggs only to get 3 skillups from 200 combines.

Then I tossed my plat into Justice Fruit, which being a wizard, I was forced to buy some in the bazaar at 40pp each. So I ended up dumping 16kpp into pies. But over those 400 combines, I went from 229 to 250. That's a skillup every 19.1 combines. No complaints from me.

[Honeygirl]

Thanks Sony for the new tradeskill window! My biggest gripe about making halas pies was the amount of time it took making the subcombines, then making the final product. Now with the new tradeskill window it makes the combines go WAY faster :).

PS....I wouldnt bother with snake eggs as they make only 1 dough per combine.....get basilisk eggs that=15 dough per combine. These can be easily farmed in Lavastorm.

[Kudikai]

Originally posted by Honeygirl
PS....I wouldnt bother with snake eggs as they make only 1 dough per combine.....get basilisk eggs that=15 dough per combine. These can be easily farmed in Lavastorm.

Only problem with that idea is that the snake eggs aren't for clumps of dough...they're the ingredients of the main recipe. And I've found Jaggedpine a much more efficient place to farm basilisk eggs. Can usually get 3 stacks an hour.

[Honeygirl]

Yeah, I just realized the recipies...I was thinking of Halas pies. I spent about an hour in the Paineel noob zone and got about 4 stacks of snake eggs for the new GoD recipies. Just killed everything in sight to get the zone to respawn snakes. From my experience, I think its just easier to make the halas pies for skilling rather than the new GoD recipies...then move on to MTPs or Holy Cakes. The stats arent that great and the amount of time needed to get snake eggs just doesnt seem worth it imo. When thinking about time farming vs money spent, I would rather spend the time killing mobs and getting phat lewt (and xp to boot) to support my baking...

[Chukklez]

Recently finished off baking because it was fun. Tried one batch of HMP's and even with the new UI it took forever. Found that, although I got less skillups with MTP's, I could set up a run of 100 combines and perform it in under 5 minutes. Took about 4 hours to go from 200 to 244. Just park a level 1 toon in Rivervale to transfer you some Jum, and a couple toons in the bazaar to hold the final product (you will wind up with over one toon worth of picnics by the time you finish) and you're set. I made a stack of jumjum cakes at a time and dont think I ever failed a cake cutting on them.

Closer to trivial may net more skillups, but if it takes you five times the time to get twice the points.... well...

[Grothfael]

this info is already in the database but i figured I'd post it here:
When doing patty melts if you have GoD you don't ever have to leave Abysmal Sea other than initially to get the mold for the frypan. meat and bread are sold by the baking vendors, and cheese is sold by the general supplies vendor in the same room. He also sells the alcohols needed for beer-battered stuff. About the only thing not sold there are eggs, which previous posts already detail great methods for getting.

[Garulf]

then the Beer-Battered Tuna and Crab recipes are your new path to 250. Cost is less than 1pp per combine (mostly for the pricy Cup of Sugar). You do need to fish (in Natimbi) and forage (anywhere, you need veggies), and of course, you need access to GoD zones. It is a minor zoning pain, AFAIK all the bits for the beer batter are not avaialble in any one zone (no red wine in Abysmal, no short beer in PoK, etc.)

Of course, if you have to buy the tuna/crab meat or veggies, or don't have GoD, then you'll have to fall back on older recipes.

[Rafajafar]

There is red win in Abysmal... Dray Cuves sells it. He's also right next to Phranz Tyudin who sells vinegar, sugar, and Ground Pepper for barbeque sauce. There also just happens to be a brew barrel right there.

I'm using bbq tuna and bat wings up to 190, then going over to pies.

[Quichon]

Skilling up baking is fairly simple.

0-53 newbie baking quest in AS
54-135 fish rolls (1 fresh fish + 1 batwing. Go to PoK to western trade center. Barb fisher has the fish, DE merchant has the batwings. Bring your own spit)
136-191 patty melts (in AS you never have to leave the zone, just grab a nonstick frying pan from bazaar and get cooking)
192-220 Beer-Battered Cragbeast Steaks (by the way, 5 stamina, 7 wisdom, and decent HP/Mana is an awsome stat food for any wis caster or hybrid)
221-250 MTP

[mallissah]

The secrets page is a broken link. Has it been moved or is it just gone?

[mallissah]

Short beer and red wine are now available in AS. Not sure if they weren't before, but you can get all ingredients for the beer batter in the same room now. Dray Cuves sells the alcohol pre-mixed for you.

[Ezheikiel Windrunner]

It looks like one of the recent patches may have "broken" Abysmal Sea's fishing table. My fishing is 200 and in the past I have reeled in more fish than I can handle in a short period of time (thanks to the fact that they come in various weight-levels, yielding several combine-worths per catch). Today when I went to continue my slow and steady grind to GM-baker, I was able to catch nothing but Fresh Fish (and the rare junk such as sandals and daggers). Hopefully this is a temporary problem that will be fixed.

[mewkus]

Devs are aware of the fishing bug and are either working on a fix for it or are waiting for next patch to upload the fix. See EQ Forum at http://eqforums.station.sony.com/eq/board/message?board.id=TNZ&message.id=150459

[Ezheikiel Windrunner]

Good news! They have already fixed it. :) With any luck, I'll be GM Baker by tonight! :D

[Talisker]

I did something a little different with an alt.

I placed my 65 necro in Abysmal to fish and buy pepper and short beer for the beer batter. I took her cooking up to 130 on the basics and she could fish and make crabmeat and tuna from the fish as she caught them. You can't fish with something on the cursor but you can cast then do 3-4 combines until you either catch something or fail. When I got to the point where I needed eggs I sent her to the basilisk caves. It's just 2 zones away. Passed these things over via the shared bank then my main only had to leave the guildhall to buy the supplies for beer batter or bat wings, milk and veg supplies all of which are close. I tried doing anaconda and griffon melts but fishing has much better returns than meat drops from killing.

I'm up to 252 now. I plan to go to Veg omelets with cheese using some coarse salt a guildie gave me. Once that runs out I guess I'm going to MTPs or foraging for salt with my baby druid. <shudder>

[potionminded]

I have 300 in baking and i'm wondering why i'm not a grand master in baking. I have made the spoon too but still nothing. Please help with any information. I'm not sure what i'm doing wrong. :(

[kullaili]

thats a lot of food im at 206 what should i make to get to 250?? or 300??
thanks if you can help me and also i have been making halas 10lb meat pies but i think i made like 100 combind's and only 1 point so anything else i should make cause makeing this stuff is costing me like 4pp a combine to make 6 so thats like a couple gold and silver maybe a copper or two and i sell them at 100pp a stack so im making 1pp on each one so do the math anyhitng else cheper or faster? thanks for the help

:)

[Gaell Stormracer]

I've been skilling up Baking with my Monk recently (for Bristlebane Party Platters) and from 191 to 222 I made Beer-Battered Hynid and Cragbeast Steaks. I bought all of the meat on the Maguses (Magi?) in Natimbi, Nedaria and the Abysmal Sea, presumably sold to them by people foraging around Natimbi. The Steaks have the major advantage of not needing anything that isn't vendor-sold other than the meat.

From 222 upwards, I'm making Beer-battered (Hynid/Cragbeast) Pie, which requires 2 egg batters and 1 vegetables per pie in addition to vendor-only ingredients. Now that vegetables can be made by combining carrot+turnip+lettuce, this means I only need to farm some Basilisk Eggs for this. I did try clearing the Basilisk caves in Jaggedpine, but got ZERO eggs from them (about 25 basilisks) so I went back to Lavastorm, and got 1-2 eggs from each of the 6 or so low-level basilisks in the southern half of the zone.

Once the Pies triv out, it'll be on to the Souffles, which will need 50% more eggs per combine, but otherwise no real difference.

[Gorse]

I did try clearing the Basilisk caves in Jaggedpine, but got ZERO eggs from them (about 25 basilisks)

The normal mobs " a cave basilisk" do not drop eggs, only the "a cave basilisk genitor" drop the eggs. Your luck with the random number generator, was just bad. In my experience that genitors are about 10-15% of the spawns and can drop 0-6 eggs. The respawn is about 8 minutes. There are a total of 21 spawn points, and depending on your method / level you should have no problem getting 2 full tacks (40 eggs) per hour if you are clearing them all.

As a note, the genitors are KOS (mothers protecting their eggs?) while the regular genitors are only dubious and they are not social (they will not assist or attack uless attacked). All are level 30 to 34 and max hit from 69 to 74 based on level.



Gorse

[Gaell Stormracer]

I got 50 eggs in about 30 minutes in Lavastorm, I just killed everything that moved around that area (basilisks, lava crawlers, elementals) and fresh spawns were popping as fast as I killed. So, while the basilisks might be a decent place to combine levelling a lowbie alt with farming, for pure egg farming lavastorm wins handily.

[Gorse]

20 (from JPF) x 15 = 300

50 (from LSM) x 5 = 250


Your call.

[Gaell Stormracer]

20 (from JPF) x 15 = 300

50 (from LSM) x 5 = 250

Your call.You're mistaken. The eggs from the Lavastorm basilisks also make 15 batter or 15 dough each. 50 from LSM x 15 = 750. :D

[Gorse]

You're mistaken. The eggs from the Lavastorm basilisks also make 15 batter or 15 dough each. 50 from LSM x 15 = 750. :D

Ah, good to know. In times past only the basilisk eggs from JPF yielded 15, other basilisks eggs yielded 5.

[Strokker]

I guess the "Yokes" on you Gorse...Sorry I will go bang my head in the door as PUNishment for this crack.../grin

[Gaell Stormracer]

Actually I've been farming eggs from Lavastorm since about Velious :) I got to maximum baking at that time with chocolate cakes.... and it's been 15 since that time for "Basilisk Egg". It's the foraged "Basilisk Eggs" that make 5. :)

[stonethelost]

Hopefully you all can help.

Yesterday I made 70 Misty Thicket Picnics and did not receive a single skill up. Is there a limit to the trivial before you gain a skill-up or is this just bad luck? :mad:

My info:
Baking 232
Trophy level 5 = + 5%
Modified skill of 243

MTP triv. 332.

[skdog]

it is simply bad luck

as u go higher and higher in your base skill level expect some even longer runs without a skill up. i have personally went over 250 without a skill up