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Mendan
03-01-2003, 07:36 PM
EDIT- Earlier today on Lanys I had a wizard attempt to make Nature Walker's Behest, he failed the combine, but did not get a DNC. So although the books are only on Test, it seems the recipes came over with an earlier patch.

Making this a separate thread since these are still only on Test, but mods feel free to move it to the other research recipe thread if you feel it belongs there. The research books are sold in various outer buildings in the Plane of Knowledge. Each book cost a bit over 3pp, and since I had to beg for the pp to buy them I could only afford volume I and II of Frieza's Study of Arcane Nature:

Improved Superior Camouflage:
-Rune of Synergy
-Page 61 Yaeth's Compendium (Right Side)

Upheaval:
-Rune of Amalgamation
-Dew Clover

Circle of Winter:
-Rune of Draught
-Primordial Substance

Everlasting Breath:
-Page 50 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Sliver of Moonstone

Levitation:
-Page 70 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Dew Clover

Circle of Summer:
-Rune of Ellipse
-Flake of Loadstone

Call of Karana:
-Mist of Povar
-Rune of Coalition

Spirit of Scale:
-Page 80 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Dew Clover

Glamour of Tunare:
-Page 18 of Toharon's Memoir (Left Side)
-Primordial Substance

Form of the Howler:
-Page 65 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Primordial Substance

Blizzard:
-Rune of Gale
-Runed Emblem

Remove Greater Curse:
-Words of Apparition
-Page 73 Yaeth's Compendium (Right Side)

Nature Walker's Behest:
-Coin of Xev
-Words of Tenacy

Tunare's Request:
-Page 70 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Etched Signet

Girdle of Karana:
-Coin of Xev
-Page 63 Yaeth's Compendium (Right Side)

Breath of Karana:
-Rune of Alteration
-Etched Signet
-Words of Abrogation

Wake of Karana:
-Page 72 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Runed Emblem
-Rune of Divergency

Ro's Smoldering Disjunction:
-Rune of Flash
-Flake of Lodestone
-Rune of Coruscating

Succor:
-Rune of Opposition
-Rune of Contradiction
-Page 81 Yaeth's Compendium (Full Page)

Frost:
-Rune of Draught
-Dew Clover
-Rune of Tempest

Bonds of Tunare:
-Rune of Conglomeration
-Words of Holding
-Words of Expertise

Regrowth of the Grove:
-Page 78 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Dew Clover
-Page 92 Yaeth's Compendium (Full Page)

Fist of Karana:
-Page 14 Zeannor's Thesis (Left Side)
-Rune of Flash
-Rune of Incitation

Circle of Seasons:
-Rune of Conglomeration
-Etched Signet
-Rune of Tempest

Legacy of Thorn:
-Scales of Veeshan
-Rune of Incendiary
-Words of Expertise

Spirit of Oak:
-Bolts of Tallon
-Page 94 Yaeth's Compendium (Right Side)
-Page 95 Yaeth's Compendium (Full Page)

Protection of the Glades:
-Page 21 Toharon's Memoir (Left Side)
-Runed Emblem
-Page 22 Toaron's Memoir (Full Page)

Banishment:
-Words of Agony
-Words of Obliteration
-Rune of Divergency

Form of the Hunter:
-Page 94 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Page 94 Yaeth's Compendium (Right Side)
-Words of Virtue

Mask of the Hunter:
-Card of Bristlebane
-Dew Clover
-Page 115 Yaeth's Compendium (Full Page)

Entrapping Roots:
-Rune of Amalgamation
-Words of Covert
-Rune of Association

Nature's Recovery:
-Page 102 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Dew Clover
-Page 83 Yaeth's Compendium (Full Page)

Moonfire:
-Rune of Flash
-Flake of Lodestone
-Rune of Coruscating
-Words of Potence

Mask of the Stalker:
-Page 117 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Dew Clover
-Page 118 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Rune of Zephyr

Kilelilae
03-02-2003, 07:22 AM
New research book: 8 slot book, no drop, and you can't get it unless you have the right research skill(101).

PRIEST CLASS RECIPES

Note:
"Any intelligence caster will be able to research any of the researchable priest spells. The books were only written from the perspective of certain classes." - Frizznik(SoE)

DRUID SPELL RESEARCH
================

Improved Superior Camouflage:
-Rune of Synergy
-Page 61 Yaeth's Compendium (Right Side)

Upheaval:
-Rune of Amalgamation
-Dew Clover

Circle of Winter:
-Rune of Draught
-Primordial Substance

Everlasting Breath:
-Page 50 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Sliver of Moonstone

Levitation:
-Page 70 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Dew Clover

Circle of Summer:
-Rune of Ellipse
-Flake of Loadstone

Call of Karana:
-Mist of Povar
-Rune of Coalition

Spirit of Scale:
-Page 80 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Dew Clover

Glamour of Tunare:
-Page 18 of Toharon's Memoir (Left Side)
-Primordial Substance

Form of the Howler:
-Page 65 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Primordial Substance

Blizzard:
-Rune of Gale
-Runed Emblem

Remove Greater Curse:
-Words of Apparition
-Page 73 Yaeth's Compendium (Right Side)

Nature Walker's Behest:
-Coin of Xev
-Words of Tenacy

Tunare's Request:
-Page 70 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Etched Signet

Girdle of Karana:
-Coin of Xev
-Page 63 Yaeth's Compendium (Right Side)

Breath of Karana:
-Rune of Alteration
-Etched Signet
-Words of Abrogation

Wake of Karana:
-Page 72 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Runed Emblem
-Rune of Divergency

Ro's Smoldering Disjunction:
-Rune of Flash
-Flake of Lodestone
-Rune of Coruscating

Succor:
-Rune of Opposition
-Rune of Contradiction
-Page 81 Yaeth's Compendium (Full Page)

Frost:
-Rune of Draught
-Dew Clover
-Rune of Tempest

Bonds of Tunare:
-Rune of Conglomeration
-Words of Holding
-Words of Expertise

Regrowth of the Grove:
-Page 78 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Dew Clover
-Page 92 Yaeth's Compendium (Full Page)

Fist of Karana:
-Page 14 Zeannor's Thesis (Left Side)
-Rune of Flash
-Rune of Incitation

Circle of Seasons:
-Rune of Conglomeration
-Etched Signet
-Rune of Tempest

Legacy of Thorn:
-Scales of Veeshan
-Rune of Incendiary
-Words of Expertise

Spirit of Oak:
-Bolts of Tallon
-Page 94 Yaeth's Compendium (Right Side)
-Page 95 Yaeth's Compendium (Full Page)

Protection of the Glades:
-Page 21 Toharon's Memoir (Left Side)
-Runed Emblem
-Page 22 Toaron's Memoir (Full Page)

Banishment:
-Words of Agony
-Words of Obliteration
-Rune of Divergency

Form of the Hunter:
-Page 94 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Page 94 Yaeth's Compendium (Right Side)
-Words of Virtue

Mask of the Hunter:
-Card of Bristlebane
-Dew Clover
-Page 115 Yaeth's Compendium (Full Page)

Entrapping Roots:
-Rune of Amalgamation
-Words of Covert
-Rune of Association

Nature's Recovery:
-Page 102 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Dew Clover
-Page 83 Yaeth's Compendium (Full Page)

Moonfire:
-Rune of Flash
-Flake of Lodestone
-Rune of Coruscating
-Words of Potence

Mask of the Stalker:
-Page 117 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Dew Clover
-Page 118 Yaeth's Compendium (Left Side)
-Rune of Zephyr


CLERIC SPELL RESEARCH
=================

Improved Invis to undead
-Words Of Constancy
-Rune Of Antithesis

Death Pact
-Words Of Asylum
-Toharon's Memoir Page 18 (Right Side)

Sunskin
-Words Of Expedition
-Rune Of Coalition

Word of Vigor
-Writ of Quellious
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 70 (Right Side)

Heroic Bond
-Staff Shard of Luclin
-Toharon's Memoir Page 21 (Right Side)

Upheval
-Rune Of Amalgamation
-Dew Clover

Yaulp IV
-Rune Of Inticement
-Toharon's Memoir Page 15 (Right Side)

Reckoning
-Rune Of Alteration
-Sliver of Moonstone

Remove Greater Curse
-Words Of Apparition
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 73 (Right Side)

Stun Command
-Rune Of Transpose
-Flake of Lodestone

Fortitude
-Flame of Fennin
-Toharon's Memoir Page 31 (Right Side)

Paralyzing Earth
-Rune Of Opposition
-Flake of Lodestone
-Rune Of Incitation

Mark of Karn
-Rune Of Gate
-Toharon's Memoir Page 18 (Right Side)
-Words Of Expertise

Hammer of Judgement
-Staff Shard of Luclin
-Flake of Lodestone
-Finnok's Treatise Page 2(Left Side)

Yaulp V
-Rune Of Flash
-Toharon's Memoir Page 21 (Right Side)
-Words Of Capacity

Judgement
-Rune Of Ellipse
-Words Of Annihilation
-Words Of Misery

Word of Restoration
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 72 (Left Side)
-Dew Clover
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 92

Aegis
-Scale of Veeshan
-Toharon's Memoir Page 18 (Right Side)
-Toharon's Memoir Page 19

Antidote
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 70 (Left Side)
-Primordial Substance
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 98

Enforced Reverence
-Rune Of Synergy
-Rune Of Glint
-Words Of Immunity

Naltron's Mark
-Toharon's Memoir Page 18 (Left Side)
-Etched Signet
-Toharon's Memoir Page 22

Ethereal Light
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 25 (Left Side)
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 25 (Right Side)
-Words Of Virtue

Blessed Armor of the Risen
-Bolts of Tallon
-Words Of Recourse
-Words Of Expertise

Hammer of Divinity
-Staff Shard of Luclin
-Rune of Gale
-Finnok's Treatise Page 2 (Left Side)

The Unspoken Word
-Words Of Recall
-Rune Of Impulse
-Words Of Invigoration

Ethereal Remedy
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 78 (Left Side)
-Flake of Lodestone
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 113

Aegolism
-Card of Bristlebane
-Runed Emblem
-Toharon's Memoir Page 22

Word of Redemption
-Rune Of Conglomeration
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 114 (Right Side)
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 108

Banishment of Shadows
-Rune Of Conglomeration
-Rune Of Contradiction
-Words Of Abrogation

Divine Intervention
-Toharon's Memoir Page 21 (Left Side)
-Words Of Recourse
-Toharon's Memoir Page 22

Ethereal Elixir
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 114 (Left Side)
-Dew Clover
-Rune Of Complexity

Blessing of Aegolism
-Writ of Quellious
-Etched Signet
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 26 (Left Side)
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 26 (Left Side) ???

Marzin's Mark
-Coin of Xev
-Runed Emblem
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 81
-Rune Of Zephyr

Hammer of Souls
-Staff Shard of Luclin
-Words Of Comprehension
-Finnok's Treatise Page 2 (Left Side)


SHAMAN SPELL RESEARCH
=================

Spirit Quickening
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 50 (Left Side)
-Etched Signet

Talisman of Jasinth
-Coin of Xev
-Words of Tenure

Everlasting Breath
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 50 (Left Side)
-Sliver of Moonstone

Levitation
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 70 (Left Side)
-Dew Clover

Spirit of Scale
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 80 (Left Side)
-Dew Clover

Insidious Decay
-Words of Pain
-Flake of Lodestone

Primal Essence
-Mist of Povar
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 71 (Right Side)

Talisman of Shadoo
-Card of Bristlebane
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 78 (Right Side)

Cripple
-Words of Voiding
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 80 (Right Side)

Shroud of Spirits
-Words of Apparition
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 82 (Right Side)

Remove Greater Curse
-Words ofrds of Apparition
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 73 (Right Side)

Form of The Great Bear
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 50 (Left Side)
-Staff Shard of Luclin

Spirit of The Howler
-Finnok's Treatise Page 2 (Left Side)
-Flake of Lodestone

Torrent of Poison
-Rune of Amalgamation
-Words of Distress

Acumen
-Rune of Ellipse
-Words of Knowledge
-Words of Expertise

Bane of Nife
-Words of Agony
-Primordial Substance
-Words of Misery

Regrowth of Dar`Khura
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 78 (Left Side)
-Runed Emblem
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 81

Malosini
-Words of Annihilation
-Words of Virtue

Talisman of The Cat
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 50 (Left Side)
-Runed Emblem
-Rune of Divergency

Talisman of The Brute
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 60 (Left Side)
-Words of Comprehension
-Words of Capacity

Cannibalize IV
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 63 (Left Side)
-Words of Exhiliration
-Rune of Divergency

Talisman of The Rhino
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 65 (Left Side)
-Words of Simulation
-Words of Capacity

Talisman of the Serpent
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 73 (Left Side)
-Words of Sapience
-Etched Signet

Tigir's Insects
-Words of Anguish
-Words of Expertise

Talisman of Epuration
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 82 (Left Side)
-Dew Clover
-Words of Invigoration

Acumen of Dar'khura
-Rune of Alternation
-Words of Intent
-Words of Capacity

Talisman of the Raptor
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 91 (Left Side)
-Dew Clover
-Words of Immunity

Pox of Bertoxxulous
-Words of Agony
-Flake of Lodestone
-Words of Revenant

Voice of the Berserker
-Rune of Incitement
-Sliver of Moonstone
-Words of Propriety

Primal Avatar
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 102 (Left Side)
-Runed Emblem
-Rune of Association

Focus of Spirit
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 104 (Left Side)
-Words of Energy
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 105

Topor
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 107 (Left Side)
-Words of Sapience
-Words of Revenant
-Yaeth's Compedium 118 (Right Side)

Malo
-Staff Shard of Luclin
-Words of Energy
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 108
-Words of Retention

Avatar
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 112 (Left Side)
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 112 (Right Side)
-Words of Virtue

Khura's Focusing
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 114 (Left Side)
-Etched Signet
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 115

Updated 8th March 2003

caena
03-02-2003, 09:45 AM
Wait, CLERICS will need to find a NECRO to do their research?

Does this not seem arse-backward from a roleplaying perspective?

This would particularly suck for Tunare & Rodcet clerics on Sullon, but I'm sure my guildie's cleric of Rodcet is not the only cleric who goes out of her way to slaughter undead whenever she sees it.

Bogus.

Caena Trimalchionis
Level 55 Enchanter
Divine Comedies
Karana

Kytelae
03-02-2003, 10:05 AM
There seems to be some discussion about whether Shaman spells are made by Mages or Enchanters.

EnragedFilia
03-02-2003, 02:25 PM
indeed, cleric spells made in a necro research book is very counterintuitive and probably a very bad idea for various reasons. if anyone is listening, i suggest necros dont make wis caster spells after they go live. for one thing, necros are religion-dependant and therefore affiliation-dependant, similarly to wis casters but always evil (unlike wis casters). i'll bet wizards making druid spells will be a *real* big hit in the wizard community too...
well, i'm off to break the news to graffes *snicker*

Lilosh
03-02-2003, 02:56 PM
Grrrrrrr....


Druids go to wizards? Need I remind anyone about the sense of dislike between the two? Bah.


But clerics going to Necros? Thats just plain wrong.

If they tweak this a little bit, It has good potential, though.

-Lilosh

Veldin Darkfire
03-02-2003, 04:01 PM
I really hope they allow mages to do shaman spells or someones spells. Hate always being left in the cold as an int caster.

Would like to be useful for once in some regard like this. :)


Veldin

Kaysha Soulsinger
03-02-2003, 04:05 PM
What I find surprising is that Ethereal Remedy and Ethereal Light are researched as well. You can just buy those two spells in ShadowHaven at the Cleric/Palading guild ...

Soulfiend
03-02-2003, 05:07 PM
bollox

Idara
03-02-2003, 05:33 PM
Yes, the wiz in my guild who has really high research absolutely detests druids so the likelihood of me getting my high level spells researched pretty much sips through straws. /sigh

Ngreth Thergn
03-02-2003, 05:34 PM
Wait, CLERICS will need to find a NECRO to do their research?

Does this not seem arse-backward from a roleplaying perspective?


Not really.

#1 Remeber, not all Clerics are "good" (think Dark Elf clerics, clerics of Bertox, etc...)

#2 Some mythos (not necessarily EQ) consider Necromancers their priest type...

So there is some precidence for it.


This would particularly suck for Tunare & Rodcet clerics on Sullon, but I'm sure my guildie's cleric of Rodcet is not the only cleric who goes out of her way to slaughter undead whenever she sees it.

Bogus.



That is a diferent matter entirely, and needs some thought for those servers.

Lilosh
03-02-2003, 05:41 PM
The holes on PvP server seem kind of Immense.

1) Race Teams - The elvish team has no necros, but more then one High Elf Priest.

2) Good Vs Evil: Any Good cleric has to go cross team, as does any neutral. :-)

3) (Not PvP, I know) Fironia Vie: How can the 50% (or more) of good clerics roleplay going to a Necromancer for their Holy Spells?


Like I said, researching High level Priest spells is a good idea.
Having INT casters do it..... well.... It could be worse.
The way they currently have it set up? (On test, mind you, not even live yet). Needs re-adjusting.


-Lilosh

Danthen
03-02-2003, 08:07 PM
According to the books on Test, Wizards research Druid spells, Necromancers research Cleric spells and Enchanters research Shaman spells.

Not sure if this means Mages are left out all together or what, but there was no book for Magicians

Kilelilae
03-02-2003, 08:55 PM
I'd edit the list I posted above, but it keeps refusing to post for me.

Yes, It looks like Enchanters do the Shaman research, oops, sorry all.

sasandra
03-03-2003, 03:46 AM
Primal Avatar
-Yaeth's Compedium Page 102 (Left Side)
-Runed Emblem
-Rune of Association

wonder how this will work if it's researched by magicians since the primal avatar scroll is no drop.

Veldin Darkfire
03-03-2003, 07:48 AM
I would REALLY like to know WHY verant continually leaves Magicians with the short end of the stick? Enchanters already do too much in regards to tradeskills and what not. Throw us a bone here eh?

Veldin

Verdandi
03-03-2003, 07:56 AM
I edited it for you to change magicians to enchanters, Kilelilae. Not sure why it is giving you problems.

waywreth
03-03-2003, 08:29 AM
I found a great chart listing the research items.

Research Chart (http://www.phantomraiders.com/members/research/index.htm).


Waywreth

Shaman Arriana
03-03-2003, 02:31 PM
Just as large (actually, more so) of a mystery is why "Malosini" is researched.

This has been vendor sold in Firiona Vie/Overthere since day 1 of Kunark.

This hasn't stopped VI from keeping it on the loot table of level 60 kunark mobs (kill Gore/Sev/Tal, get a vendor spell, wheee!), and now researched too.

Nimphe Wildwood
03-03-2003, 03:44 PM
Druids go to wizards? Need I remind anyone about the sense of dislike between the two? Bah.

Lilosh - Actually it's the Necros that hate us (Druids) the most.
Personally I find playing a Necro to be most enjoyable next to a Druid.

Back to the topic at hand.

Why not have Druids go to Wizards? Only makes sense...we both can port and quad - Clerics and Necros can heal and rez.

/shrugs

Kilelilae
03-03-2003, 03:56 PM
Thankyou for making the change Verdandi, I can post but I always got a 'Server not found' error whenever I try to post any edits ?

Speaking for myself, I was rather downcast to see Magicians get bumped for Enchanters for the Shaman spell research. Please don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Enchanters, but I think it would have been more fun to see Magicians get the extra research possibilties.

Hethral
03-03-2003, 04:29 PM
In a sick sorta way it makes sense that necromancers are making our cleric spells. After all, we're the two classes that spend the most time playing with dead things and trying to get them walking around again.

Frizznik
03-03-2003, 04:40 PM
I would REALLY like to know WHY verant continually leaves Magicians with the short end of the stick? Enchanters already do too much in regards to tradeskills and what not. Throw us a bone here eh?

Any intelligence caster will be able to research any of the researchable priest spells. The books were only written from the perspective of certain classes.

Lilosh
03-03-2003, 05:45 PM
I would REALLY like to know WHY verant continually leaves Magicians with the short end of the stick? Enchanters already do too much in regards to tradeskills and what not. Throw us a bone here eh?

Any intelligence caster will be able to research any of the researchable priest spells. The books were only written from the perspective of certain classes.


WOOOT!

WOOT WOOT! WOOT!!!!!


Thank you for stopping in! This is GREAT NEWS!


-Lilosh

Mendan
03-03-2003, 05:55 PM
Any intelligence caster will be able to research any of the researchable priest spells. The books were only written from the perspective of certain classes.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you! :)

Danthen
03-03-2003, 06:13 PM
Any intelligence caster will be able to research any of the researchable priest spells. The books were only written from the perspective of certain classes.

Can anyone else confirm that this is infact the case.

Lilosh
03-03-2003, 06:23 PM
Any intelligence caster will be able to research any of the researchable priest spells. The books were only written from the perspective of certain classes.

Can anyone else confirm that this is infact the case.


Ummm... Frizznik works for SoE, buddy.


His word is straight from the Devs mouth.


-Lilosh

Delfontes
03-03-2003, 06:27 PM
Lilosh... you know that... and I know that, but his title is still 'Visitor', and not everyone knows the name eh? ;)

Thanks for dropping by, and I am so sorry I don't get to have Druids Kneel before my greatness. :(

Danthen
03-03-2003, 06:42 PM
heh, I read these boards alot, never seen Friz post before. Just wanted to make sure it wasnt someone just assuming. Good enough.

Mendan
03-04-2003, 12:25 AM
Frizz needs a title, something like "Numero Uno Dev at SOE" :p

taziir
03-04-2003, 07:48 AM
What about Paladins, Shadow Knights, Beastlords & Rangers?
Do they have issues finding any other their 50 - 60 spells (which is why INT casters have gone crazy over the new research).

Druids having to ask Wizards to make their spells, oh my thats precious! Who say's VI dosnt have a sense of humour! :twisted:

B_Delacroix
03-04-2003, 10:05 AM
Our (paladin) spells come from the cleric line. Aside from the hybrid specific ones, we can get the crossovers through this research method.

Lilosh
03-04-2003, 11:30 AM
Druids having to ask Wizards to make their spells, oh my thats precious! Who say's VI dosnt have a sense of humour! :twisted:


Only if it works the other way as well. If we druids get to make wizard spells, and they can't.


:P :twisted: :P :twisted: :P :twisted:


-Lilosh

Teledriel
03-04-2003, 11:49 AM
I don't understand why people thin Cleric / Necro combo is so bad. 1) NECRO's all ready with some of their research originally could make CLERIC spells.. so if they went to the one class to another Necro to Cleric is LOGICAL. 2) Which two classes are the ONLY classes that deal with UNDEAD ? Necro & Cleric.

Aluve for now.

(Oh yea HE Cleric w/ DE Necro counterpart. Life and Death so much can ROCK we have OUTDAMGED tanks at time with her pet to KS our own raid party before Raid Mode.)

Mendan
03-04-2003, 12:04 PM
Oh well, now that we know any int caster can make any priest spell the issue of conflicting classes is moot. :)

Jianna
03-04-2003, 04:01 PM
What is the 8 slot book called?

Veldin Darkfire
03-05-2003, 12:26 AM
Frizznik /kneel

THANK YOU

Veldin

K.Rool
03-05-2003, 08:02 AM
If any Caster can research any Priest spell, this are good news indeed...

dynamax
03-05-2003, 08:26 AM
Any ideas as to where tohunt for components for the shaman spell comonents?

Unmei
03-05-2003, 09:36 AM
Any ideas as to where tohunt for components for the shaman spell comonents?

First of all, a technicality: There are no "Shaman spell components" - all of the components used in the priest spells appear to be bits and pieces of what the int caster classes use. For example, if it has a number on it, it's an enchanter spell component, if it's a rune, it's a wizard spell component, if it doesn't seem to fit in any category, it's a mage component. ;)

Anyway, there ALSO appear to be NO specific drop locations for specific components. It seems that if you are killing mobs of reasonable level (50+) you have a chance of getting spell components, but not of any particular type. So... keep your eyes peeled, and check your vendors. Most people don't know what this stuff is for, so they're just dumping it for cash...

mrjimorg0
03-05-2003, 10:42 AM
I have a chanter with 200 research skill and a wizard with no reseach. Can I give my chanter the wizard research book and have him do all the combines?
-Ollex

attriel
03-05-2003, 11:20 AM
I have a chanter with 200 research skill and a wizard with no reseach. Can I give my chanter the wizard research book and have him do all the combines?
-Ollex

No. The guy will only give the book to someone of the right class, and the book is no drop AFAIK.

Your wizard will either need to raise their research or find some other wizard willing to do it

--attriel

(this is assuming we mean the new LoY combines; if not, that's an entirely different question, and I think the answer is yes but I'm not sure)

Damasciss
03-05-2003, 07:27 PM
This is from eqdruids.com Forget if it's been mentioned or not.


And yet more on Priest Research! 3/3/03
Ok, there has been word from SOE on who will be able to do the research for Priest spells.

The word is, that any INT researcher can do the combines, it will not be limited to just one type of INT researcher. The books were just written to "one" class as a matter of storyline.

So you can quit worrying about having to kiss up to your local wizard friend, and find a good enchanter or magician to make the combines for you :)

Damasciss Kyndhardt
42 H-Elf Druid
E'ci

Lilosh
03-05-2003, 07:41 PM
They got that information from us. Friznik posted it in the THIS thread. :-)
I cross posted it there when Frizznik posted it here.

They even credit us at one point.


-Lilosh

Kazzim
03-06-2003, 02:23 PM
A quick question about research,
Being a Shaman I do not have any knowledge about the research skill, and there are more than a couple of the high level spells that I am interested in, but I will stick to one example, Torpor, which I am sure many other Shaman will be interested in.

Torpor "recipe" :Yaeth's Comp. Page 107 (left) / Words of Sapience / Words of Revenant / Yaeth's Comp. 118 (Right)

Does this mean I have to acquire all of these items/pages for a combine? From doing some looking it appears that the Words in the Torpor recipe would be for Mages, while Yaeth's Comp. pages would be for Enchanters. Please enlighten me on how this will work.

Your time is appreciated,

Kazzim

Unmei
03-06-2003, 03:23 PM
While the "Words" in question might be "for" mage, or necro, or whatever spells, and the "page" in question is "for" an enchanter spell, that doesn't really mean anything. You just gather all the stuff, give it to an int caster with the advanced book, add quill and paper, stir, press combine and hopefully a spell comes out. Saying that pages are "for" enchanter spells is like saying Metallic Liquid is "for" the the Valorium Ring of Gallantry. Yes, it is. It might even be the primary thing it's used for, but it's not the ONLY thing.

These pages aren't class restricted in any way. People just call them "enchanter pages" or "mage words" or whatever, because those are the spells you used to be able to make with them. It gets a lot messier in terms of terminology now that priest classes are in the mix using them all, but hey...

Uhtoff
03-09-2003, 02:47 AM
And both Shammies and Chanters are buffing/slowing classes...makes perfect sense to me :)

iluvia
03-09-2003, 05:53 PM
I'm so excited right now! I went to the really great website that was linked earlier in this post: http://www.phantomraiders.com/members/research/index.htm#all

and looked up info on the druid level 55 pet spell, nature walker's behest. I guess I really lucked out but the components were for sale in bazaar today so I got them and asked a high level enchanter friend to combine and voila!! I got my spell! Just saved myself about 7k I figure since that's about how much it costs in bazaar.

You do need a parchment and quill, and they are sold in many cities and you can get a list of those from the LOY spell section in eqtraders. Any int class can combine them, but they do need a special book that is given out in Gulf of Gunthak. It's a different book for each class, and the instructions for getting them are once again clearly written up in the LOY research page on eqtraders.

This is very exciting for me, since many of the researchable spells are very hard to come by and very expensive, so I think in the next several months we'll start seeing spell prices dropping to affordable levels (crosses fingers).

Good luck on your spell combines everyone.

Solmancer
03-09-2003, 06:52 PM
Now here's a nasty thought:

What if success rate is based on what class does it? Meaning, Enchanters do better with Shaman spells, and so on.


.....

Personally I think they should've just kept the "this class only does that class", and the fourth int caster (Mages?) deal with hybrids, due to being so.. wide ranged.. :)

Lupoman
03-10-2003, 03:59 AM
SHAMMIES REJOICE!!!!

and there was much rejoicing. yay!
:D

No more over-inflated 60k malo for sale in the bazaar! Greedy peeps! Its a rare drop spell, but guess what!? not anymore! lol

and there was much rejoicing. yay!

Qutie
03-10-2003, 10:55 AM
While I'm very happy to see the possibility of finally getting some spells I've been missing forever, I think this is a stupid way of doing it. If Wis casters have spells that have to be researched, then let us Research.

Finding the bits and pieces for the spells I need will prolly be hard enough... then having to go to an INT caster to make my WIS caster spell... yeah, that makes sense (sigh)

So...maybe I'll be able to summon corpses with the next upgrade... or (gasp) solo effectively :D

Understand, I don't have hatred for any class in the game, and think that it's kind of stoopid to do so... but this is just moronic.

Unmei
03-10-2003, 01:07 PM
Qutie, trust me. You don't WANT research. It's an old, irritating skill that you really have no USE for. The only way you'd be able to raise it would be to either blow valuable 50+ spell components, or spend points at a trainer, because all pre 50 research combines are class restricted.

I know that you know -one- int caster in all your friends list, right? :)

Grodzilla
03-10-2003, 02:05 PM
sounds about right.

we necro's are the anti cleric. much like shadowknights are the anti pally's

Reave
03-11-2003, 10:52 PM
Confirmed tonight that the Malo recipe is working. It was not trivial at 200+geerlok skill for a wizard guildmate, but did succeed. I am pretty ecstatic about it too, because the spell sells for 60-80k on this server and I got it for bazaar purchases totaling 350p plus one component given to me by a guildmate =)


Reave Stormbringer
Oracle, Valiant Crusaders
Ayonae Ro

Kishin
03-13-2003, 05:44 PM
reasearch for hybrid spells really isn't a big deal. Most of their 50-60 spells they can buy from vendors. for rangers, Call of Flame (old world quest spell, level 49), Call of Fire(PoG drop, easy to get, level 55), and Call of the Predator(level 60) would be the only research-worthy spells.