Aid Grimel Quest - rough notes

[Niami DenMother]

This will be a compilation of several posts from the old message boards (http://pub147.ezboard.com/feqtraderscornerfrm76.showMessage?topicID=306.topi c). I'd dearly love it if someone could sift through and make a coherent quest guide from this, as it will likely be a couple weeks before I can find the time for it ...
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From Bakara:
Aid Grimel, PoK Library at the top of the elevator.

[Fri Nov 15 21:16:00 2002] You say, 'Hail, Aid Grimel'
[Fri Nov 15 21:16:01 2002] Aid Grimel says 'Greetings and Salutations Bakara! I am Grimel, aid to the mighty paladin Councilman Taldarius. In between his duties to the city, Taldarius and I spend most of our time in the Planes cleansing evil. Even now I am preparing for battle. Taldarius intends to go further into the Planes than ever before on our next trip and I am working on gathering the special supplies we need. If you are willing to help I may have some use for your skills if you are a master of trades and have traveled in the Planes.'

[Fri Nov 15 21:17:12 2002] You say, 'i am willing to help and am a master of trades'
[Fri Nov 15 21:17:12 2002] Aid Grimel says 'Excellent! I am looking for a smith to add a special imbue to Councilman Taldarius's armor. Are you well versed in the art of smithing?'

[Fri Nov 15 21:17:22 2002] You say, 'I am well versed in the art of smithing'
[Fri Nov 15 21:17:22 2002] Aid Grimel says 'Thank you for offering to help Bakara. Take this breastplate and clean it with a diluted acid wash to get all of the debris out of it. Brew the wash by combining acid and a three celestial essence's. Once the armor is cleaned, coat it with hurricane temper. Finally add two black diamonds of nightmare to the breastplate. This should provide adequate protection for our next journey.'

Authors note: Acid wash trivials at 151. I completed all stages of this, without failures (250 Smith) and handed the final product in (A BP with 22AC and no stats).

[Fri Nov 15 21:17:30 2002] Aid Grimel smiles. 'What a wonderful job! Councilman Taldarius shall wear this on our next adventure, I am sure he will find it more protective than his old one. Take this signet as a token of my gratitude. If you are not too busy I have another task, do you have any brewing skill?'

I recieved a POS trinket, AC2 +2 to some stats and as you can see, the ability to furthur my quest should I decide to GM Brewing. It's unknown at this time if you can start with ANY skill or if smithing is it.

It's of note that I have the following soulmarks completed:

TT, Bertox, MM, Saryn, TZ & VZ.

Good luck!
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From Gorthag:
200 Smithing + 15% skill is enough for the skill requirement - so is most likely 201 or 210 min, but dont have enough/correct flags
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From Khoren, regarding flags needed to get the start of the quest:

Bertox is enough.

I do NOT have TT, MM, Saryn, VZ, or TZ. I got Bertox tonight after we killed him, and he gave me the BP. Until I got Bertox, I could not do it. And this is the only flag I've gotten since I tried last.

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From Khoren:
I handed in the AC 25 Imbued Breastplate to Aid Grimel, and got the hardened leather signet. But alas...

You say, 'I have brewing skill.'
Aid Grimel says 'I am sorry but one who has such limited knowledge of the Planes would not be able to assist me.'

So now we know...

Step 1 is doable as a grandmaster smith that has the following:
Storms/Valor (Mavuin)
NightmareB Access (Thelin)
CoD (Grummus)
Bertoxx Key (Carprin)
Bertoxxulous
Halls of Honor (Aerin'Dar)
Bastion of Thunder (Storm Giants)
Tactics (Manaetic Behemoth)

Notably I do NOT have Terris Thule (Torment Access), HoH Trials (HoHB access), Mithaniel Marr, Saryrn, Agnarr, TZ, or VZ. Naturally, I have no idea which of the above flags are not necessary for step one, except that of that list Bertoxx is definitely the most important because until I got that one, the rest weren't good enough. And it is, of course, possible that some other flag besides Bertoxx would have given access to Step 1 as well, but I'll never be able to figure that out for myself.

Step 2 is doable as a grandmaster brewer, but requires something not listed in the flags above.
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From Ashur, regarding step 2 (brewing):

224 unmodified brewing allowed me to get the quest whereas 218 + geerlok didn't. Completed it. Minor upgrade to earring and told me to work on my jewelcraft skills for next part.

Clay Signet
Slot: Ear
STR +4 STA +4 WIS +4 INT +4
WT: 0.1 Size: Tiny
Race: All
Class: All
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From Fulorian:
(Mith Marr flag is needed for the brewing step)
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From Ashur regarding the brewing step:

He didn't give the quest until I had 224 unmodified brewing. He could have been looking for a minimum of 220 unmodified (no geerlok equipped), but he refused to give the quest with 218 + Geerlok.

He gives you a No Drop 4-slot container (Brew Barrel) and some fermenting powder. You'll need to ask him again several times for more powder since you'll need a minimum of 3 to complete the quest. You make Twice Brewed Contitutionals from combining 2 Kaladim Constitutionals, some Purified Water (2 Water Flasks + Celestial Essence) and the Fermenting Powder.

I got a skill gain to 225 making the third Twice Brewed Constitutional. So the Trivial is 225 or higher.

The Twice Brewed Constitutional has the same stats as a regular Kaladim Constitutional, but No Drop.

Combine 3 Twice Brewed Constitutionals and the Leather Signet from the Smithing Quest in the Brew Barrel (not consumed!) to recieve a Portable Drink (WT 10.00 No Drop, no real stats). Give Aide Grimel the Portable Drink and the Brew Barrel to recieve the Clay Signet.
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Various key phrases for other steps

The JC Keyphrase is: "I would like to put my jewel craft skills to the test." Unfortunately, although I have the skill, I am not eligible to do the next phase yet. The only flags I know of that I am lacking up to Sol Ro access are Saryrn, RZ, and Agnarr.

I was playing around with him and I stumbled onto the phrase needed for the tailoring part: "I am skilled with a needle" resulted in him insulting my tailoring skills. Someone with a decent tailorish should try talking to him.
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From Ashur, regarding the jewelcraft step:

Aid Grimel says 'My hand was crushed when I used it to deflect a blow from a War Boar that was headed towards Taldarius's back. For some time afterwards my hand was crippled but Brell saw to it I regained full use of it. The ring I used to wear was damaged beyond repair and my hand was never steady enough to etch a new one. If you would make me a new one by combing a mounted blue diamond, the etching dust and etching tools in a jewelry kit. Then take the faceted gem and combine it with a bar of pure enchanted velium and my signet. I have no idea how the pure bars are made. You may want to seek the help of the ice dwarves.'

Given No Drop Etching Dust

Combine Etching Dust + Mounted Blue Diamond + Etching Tools in a Planar Jewelry Kit = Faceted Blue Diamond

Trivial is above 225

Asked most every coldain in Thurgadin and Icewell about pure enchanted velium and pure velium to no avail.

DNC in Planar Jewelry Kit and Planar Forge:
Enchanted Bar of Velium x2
Enchanted Bar of Velium + Celestial Essence
Enchanted Bar of Velium x2 + Celestial Essence
Bar of Velium x2
Bar of Velium + Celestial Essence
Bar of Velium x2 + Celestial Essence
Enchanted Bar of Velium + Faceted Blue Diamond + Clay Signet
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From Yalum:

You say, 'what bar of pure enchanted velium'
[Mon Nov 25 07:19:45 2002] Meg Tucter says 'Wow that is an odd request Yalum. Very rarely do we make an item that requires a pure bar of metal. Pure enchanted velium bars are made by combing three enchanted velium bars in a forge along with a coldain velium temper, pure water and a Coldain smithy hammer. Tis quite expensive but it enables the crafter to obtain pure working materials.'
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From Ashur regarding attempts to make the JC combine:

Got the bar of enchanted pure velium made, then attempted to combine it as directed with the Faceted Blue Diamond made earlier and the Signet in a Planar JC Kit.

DNC

Tried it without the signet, tried it in a planar forge. All DNC.
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Sooo ... at this point, we are unsure if the quest recipe is broken, or if the NPC is giving out incorrect hail text ...

[Ashur]

Correct and up to date.

[Kronepsis]

/me takes a crack at it. :shock:

Aid Grimel's Tradeskill Quests.

After Hailing Aid Grimel, he will mention that he needs someone willing to help him who is a master of trades AND has travelled the planes. In other words, you will need to meet a certain minimum skill level (ignoring any tradeskill improving devices like the various Geerlok tools) in a tradeskill AND have been flagged for a certain plane or two for each tradeskill quest he gives you. If you do not have the appropriate planar flag yet, he will reply to you with

Aid Grimel says 'I am sorry but one who has such limited knowledge of the Planes would not be able to assist me.'
. If your skill does not meet the requirement, he will insult your ability in the skill. It is unknown which response has priority.

This assumes that all combines are done in either a Planar kit of some sort (i.e. Planar Fletching Kit, Planar Sewing Kit, etc) or in a stationary container IN the Plane of Knowledge.


Starting off:


Part 1: Smithing.
Skill Requirement: 220 Smithing.

Flag Requirement: Bertoxxulous AND rescuing Mylik and Adier

Grimel will hand you a breastplate, ask that you wash it, and then coat with a temper and add two Black Diamonds of Nightmares to it.

Original text:


You say, 'I am well versed in the art of smithing'
Aid Grimel says 'Thank you for offering to help Bakara. Take this breastplate and clean it with a diluted acid wash to get all of the debris out of it. Brew the wash by combining acid and a three celestial essence's. Once the armor is cleaned, coat it with hurricane temper. Finally add two black diamonds of nightmare to the breastplate. This should provide adequate protection for our next journey.'

Turn in the finished Breastplate for a Leather Signet. <b>Do not throw away the Leather Signet.</b>

Leather Signet statistics:

Leather Signet
Slot: Ear
AC: 2
STR +2 STA +2 WIS +2 INT +2
WT: 0.1 Size: Tiny
Race: All
Class: All

Items given to you by Grimel:
Filthy Breastplate

<u>Recipes</u>

Acid Wash: (Brew barrel, Trivial &lt;= 151)
Jar of Acid
Celestial Essence
Celestial Essence
Celestial Essence

Breastplate cleaning: (Forge? Trivial &lt;= 231)
Acid Wash
Filthy Breastplate

Breastplate coating: (Forge, Trivial &lt;= 231)
(Cleaned) Breastplate
Hurricane Temper

Breastplate decorating: (Forge, Trivial > 250)
(Coated) Breastplate
Black Diamond of Nightmares
Black Diamond of Nightmares
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Part 2: Brewing.
Skill Requirement: Between 218 Brewing and 224 Brewing. Skill modifiers are ignored.

Flag Requirement: Terris Thule.

Grimel will give you a portable Brew Barrel with 4 slots in it, as well as 1 Fermenting Powder. You will need to ask him twice for more Fermenting Powder, and will be making a Portable Drink.

Original text:

You say, 'I have skill in brewing'
Aid Grimel says 'I bet you could make a wicked brew! However I am forced to drink a refreshing drink while out adventuring. I do have this powder that will give the best drinks quite a bite though. Mix the powder in with two Kaladim Constitutionals and a flask of pure water. If you need more dust just ask for it! Put three twice brewed constitutionals and the signet in this drink barrel. As hard as drink barrels are to get these days, you need to return it to me along with the drink you create with it'
(Aside: And yes, you CAN combine normal brewing combines in it! Only up to 4 slots though.)

Turn in the Portable Drink and Portable Brew Barrel to receive the Clay Signet.

Clay Signet statistics:

Clay Signet
Slot: Ear
AC: 4
STR +4 STA +4 WIS +4 INT +4
WT: 0.1 Size: Tiny
Race: All
Class: All

Items given to you by Grimel:
Portable Brew Barrel
Fermenting Powder

<u>Recipes</u>

Purified Water: (Brew Barrel, trivial &lt;=117)
Celestial Essence
Flask of Water
Flask of Water

Twice Brewed Constitutional: (Brew Barrel, trivial >250)
Kaladim Constitutional
Kaladim Constitutional
Purified Water
Fermenting Powder

Portable Drink: (Portable Brew Barrel, No trivial given)
Twice Brewed Constitutional
Twice Brewed Constitutional
Leather Signet (from Part 1)
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Part 3: Jewelcraft.

Skill requirement: Between 177 skill and 225 Jewelcraft skill.

Flag requirement: Saryrn.

At this point, Grimel will give you Etching Dust and ask that you make him a new ring from the previous signet. You will need to head to Velious to gather some velium bars that are needed, and will also need to head to Eastern Wastes and locate Tain Hammerfrost in order to procure a Coldain Smithy Hammer. After combining, you will get a rather tempting Velium Blue Diamond Ring with Enduring Breath on it to hand in--and NOT have returned--for a Wooden Signet and some experience.

Original text:


You say, 'I would like to put my jewel craft skills to the test.'
Aid Grimel says 'My hand was crushed when I used it to deflect a blow from a War Boar that was headed towards Taldarius's back. For some time afterwards my hand was crippled but Brell saw to it I regained full use of it. The ring I used to wear was damaged beyond repair and my hand was never steady enough to etch a new one. If you would make me a new one by combing a mounted blue diamond, the etching dust and etching tools in a jewelry kit. Then take the faceted gem and combine it with a bar of pure enchanted velium and my signet. I have no idea how the pure bars are made. You may want to seek the help of the ice dwarves.'


Going to Velious and in Thurgadin, hail Meg Tucker with the appropriate trigger text for a clarifying response.


You say, 'what bar of pure enchanted velium'
Meg Tucter says 'Wow that is an odd request Yalum. Very rarely do we make an item that requires a pure bar of metal. Pure enchanted velium bars are made by combing three enchanted velium bars in a forge along with a coldain velium temper, pure water and a Coldain smithy hammer. Tis quite expensive but it enables the crafter to obtain pure working materials.'


Meg also gives you the Etching tools.

You say, 'I need a set of Etching Tools'
Meg Tucter says 'Oh, really? There are not many that work in faceting gems. I am surprised to see your interest. You can have this old set of mine. If you are working with Royal Velium and want to give it to someone else, you can use these etching tools and your jewelers kit to engrave the piece for them. Be careful though, because once the armor is engraved you cannot remove it and it will be useless to the Dain. There is no need to return the tools, Talem recently made me a new sturdy set. Brell bless him.'

Item statisitics:

Velium Blue Diamond Ring
Magic Lore No Drop
Slot: Finger
AC: 10
HP: +65 Mana: +65
Save versus all +5
Effect: Enduring Breath
Wt: 0.1 Size: Tiny
All/All

Wooden Signet
Magic Lore No Drop
Slot: Ear
AC: 6
Str: +6 Sta: +6 Wis: +6 Int: +6 HP: +20 Mana: +20
Wt 1.5 Size: Tiny
All/All


Items given to you by Grimel:
Etching Dust

Items given to you by Meg:
Etching Tools

<u>Recipes</u>

Purified Water: (Brew Barrel, trivial &lt;=117)
Celestial Essence
Flask of Water
Flask of Water

Mounted Blue Diamond: (Jewelry Kit, trivial &lt;=142)
Bar of Velium
Bar of Velium
Blue Diamond

Faceted Blue Diamond: (Jewelry Kit, trivial > 250)
Mounted Blue Diamond
Etching Tools
Etching Dust

Bar of Enchanted Pure Velium: (Forge, trivial > 250)
Enchanted Bar of Velium
Enchanted Bar of Velium
Enchanted Bar of Velium
Purified Water
Coldain Velium Temper
Coldain Smithy Hammer

Velium Blue Diamond Ring: (Jewelry Kit, trivial > 250)
Faceted Blue Diamond
Clay Signet
Bar of Enchanted Pure Velium
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Part 4: Pottery.

Skill requirement: Between 200 and 250 Pottery.

Flag requirement: Talking to Maelin to go after Rallos Zek.

Now Grimel will give you an urn pattern and ask you to make a Sacred Urn and fill it up with Sacred Water--to replace one that was destroyed in the Plane of War--and to cap it with your signet from the Jewelcrafting part of the quest. Pretty straightforward. After making the, start heading over to the Plane of Valor and camping "the knights in the tents in Valor" as Khoren puts it for Sacred Water. After filling up the Urn with Water and your signet, combine for the Filled Sacred Urn and turn it in for the REALLY promising Metal Signet.

Original text:



You say, 'I am ready to use some clay.'
Aid Grimel says 'On our last tome gathering expedition a stray arrow in the Plane of War struck our urn filled with sacred water. It was quite a waste of sacred water! Three large enchanted blocks of clay, three lacquered opals, a vial of purified mana, a ceramic lining, sculpting tools and the urn pattern should make an unfired urn. The urn is so large you will need to fire it with three divine crystalline glazes. Once you have the urn it needs to be filled with three sacred waters and the signet as a cap.'


Item statistics:

Urn Pattern
NO DROP
WT: 0.1 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

Sacred Urn
Container
LORE ITEM NO DROP
WT: 0.4, Weight Reduction: 0%
Capacity: 4, Size Capacity: LARGE

Sacred Water
NO DROP
This is a refreshing drink.
WT: 0.4, Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

Filled Sacred Urn
MAGIC LORE NO DROP
WT: 0.1, Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

Metal Signet
Slot: EAR
AC: 8
STR: +8, STA: +8, WIS: +8, INT: +8, HP: +35, Mana: +35
SV FIRE: +3, SV DISEASE: +3, SV COLD: +3, SV MAGIC +3, SV POISON: +3
WT: 1.5, Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

Items given to you by Grimel:
Urn Pattern

<u>Recipes</u>

Lacquered Opal: (Jewelry Kit, trivial = 120)
Opal
Jar of Lacquer

Unfired Ceramic Lining: (Pottery Wheel, trivial = 36)
Small Block of Clay
Ceramic Lining Sketch
Flask of Water

Ceramic Lining: (Kiln, trivial = negligible)
Unfired Ceramic Lining
Quality Firing Sheet

Unfired Sacred Urn: (Pottery Wheel, trivial > 250)
Lacquered Opal
Lacquered Opal
Lacquered Opal
Large Block of Enchanted Clay
Large Block of Enchanted Clay
Large Block of Enchanted Clay
Sculpting Tools
Vial of Purified Mana
Ceramic Lining
Urn Pattern

Sacred Urn: (Kiln, Trivial > 250)
Unfired Sacred Urn
Divine Crystalline Glaze
Divine Crystalline Glaze
Divine Crystalline Glaze

Filled Sacred Urn: (Sacred Urn, no known skill check)
Sacred Water
Sacred Water
Sacred Water
Wooden Signet

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Part 5: Tailoring.

Skill requirement: &lt; 250 Tailoring

Flag requirement: Solusek Ro / Plane of Fire

After the grueling work of finding different components, the item Grimel wants you to make in Tailoring...is surprisingly simple. All it is essentially is a Robe of Eternal Fire with two extra, (relatively) easy to get components: A Vial of Purified Mana and your previous Signet.

Original text:



You say, 'I am skilled with the needle'
Aid Grimel says 'I appreciate the help Demorgoth. I need a new tunic made for Councilman Taldarius. Last trip through the Plane of Disease, one of those flies spit mucus on him and it dripped through his armor seams! The result was a gooey mess that ate away all the leather underneath. It was a blessing he was wearing something under all that metal! Combine three firesilk swatches, a vial of purified mana, an emblem of fire, a firestrand curing agent, a tunic pattern and the signet. Bring it to me when you have completed it.'


Item Statistics:

Fire Undergarment Tunic
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
WT:10.0
SIZE: LARGE
CLASS: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD
RACE: HUM BAR ERU ELF HIE DEF HEF DWF TRL OGR HFL GNM VAH

Marked Signet
SLOT: EAR
STR: +12 STA: +12 WIS: +12 HP: +75 Mana: +75 SV FIRE: +7, SV DISEASE: +7, SV COLD: +7, SV MAGIC +7, SV POISON: +7
WT: 1.5
SIZE: TINY
CLASS: ALL
RACE: ALL

<u>Recipes</u>

Firesilk Swatch: (Loom/Planar Sewing Kit, Trivial = ?)
Fire Silk
Fire Silk

Emblem of Fire: (Planar Jeweler's Kit, Trivial > 250)
Blank Emblem
Red Diamond of Fire
(Enchanted Bar of Molten Ore)

Firestrand Curing Agent: (Brew Barrel, Trivial = ?)
Obsidianwood Sap
Obsidianwood Sap
Obsidianwood Sap
Vial of Purified Mana

Fire Undergarment Tunic: (Loom, Trivial = ?)
Firesilk Swatch
Firesilk Swatch
Firesilk Swatch
Vial of Purified Mana
Emblem of Fire
Firestrand Curing Agent
Tunic Pattern
Metal Signet

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Part 6: Fletching.

Skill Requirement: (220 Fletching assumed).

Flag Requirement: Rallos Zek and Solusek Ro?

Commentary: None, as of yet.

Original text:



You say, 'I am skilled with a fletching knife'
[Mon Jan 20 22:44:02 2003] Aid Grimel says 'Aye I can see you are skilled with the fletching knife Gorgin. It is good too, I need to replace Councilman Taldarius's bow from Plane of Air. Combine a planing tool, two wind metal bow cams, an air arachnid silk string, a featherwood staff and the signet. I hope the bow will be up to his standards, he sure loved his old bow.'


Item Statistics:

Runed Signet
Magic Item Lore Item No Drop
AC: 15
STR: 15 DEX: 15 STA: 15 WIS:15 INT: 15 AGI: !5
HP: +100 MANA: +100
SV FIRE: +10 SV DISEASE: +10 SV COLD: +10 SV MAGIC: +10 SV POISON: +10
Effect: Aura of Regeneration (Worn)
Class: All
Race: All

Signet Featherwood Bow
Magic Item Lore Item No Drop
SLOT: Range
WT: 3.0
SIZE: LARGE
CLASS: NONE
RACE: NONE


<u>Recipes</u>

Air Bow String: (Planar Sewing Kit/Loom, ? Trivial)
Air Arachnid Silk
Air Arachnid Silk
Clump of Wax

Wind Cam Parts: (Forge, ? trivial)
Wind Metal
Cam Parts mold
File

Jar of Clockwork Grease (Medium Clay Jar, ? trivial) -- unknown skill check:
Clockwork Grease
Clockwork Grease

Wind Cams: (Toolbox, ? trivial)
Wind Cam Bolts?
Wind Cam Gears?
Jar of Clockwork Grease
Wind Cam Parts

Signet Featherwood Bow: (Planar Fletching Kit, ? Trivial)
Air Bow String
Featherwood bow staff
Wind Cam
Wind Cam
Marked Signet

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Part 7: Baking

Skill requirement: ? Baking (220 Baking assumed).

Flag requirement: Rallos Zek

No commentary (yet).

Original Text:



You say, 'I am a Master Chef'
Aid Grimel says 'When we adventure in the Planes there is only one meal that keeps us in top fighting shape. It is called a Bristlebane's Party Platter. Unfortunately the platter is awkward and not easy to adventure with so you need to place them in this satchel. I know not how to make the Platter, a rather nice female Halfling cleric always used to deliver them to us but I heard she was crushed by a Regrua while hunting for a rare component in the Plane of Water. Brell bless her soul! Combine three of the platters and the signet inside the satchel.'


Items given to you by Grimel:
Field Satchel

[Ashur]

Turn in the Portable Drink to receive the Clay Signet.
As well as the Portable Brew Barrel

[Kronepsis]

Editing. :D

[Gorgin]

[Wed Dec 04 00:57:29 2002] You say, 'I have skill in brewing'
[Wed Dec 04 00:57:29 2002] Aid Grimel says 'I bet you could make a wicked brew! However I am forced to drink a refreshing drink while out adventuring. I do have this powder that will give the best drinks quite a bite though. Mix the powder in with two Kaladim Constitutionals and a flask of pure water. If you need more dust just ask for it! Put three twice brewed constitutionals and the signet in this drink barrel. As hard as drink barrels are to get these days, you need to return it to me along with the drink you create with it'
250 Brewing skill, Flag Required is almost positively Mithaniel Marr.

[Kronepsis]

Thanks you two. :D

[Ashur]

Smithing -> Brewing -> Jewel Craft

Per Aid Grimel's text at the completion of the previous task

Consider that verified.

Unsure what's next as I'm still trying to get the JC portion combined

[Kronepsis]

Read through the initial thread, choked when the ads came on, and found the reference.

[Gorgin]

I've a question, trying to make the pure bar of velium, 3 enchanted bars+coldain temper+purified water+velium smithing hammer=DNC
is there a coldain smithing hammer also?

[Ashur]

Yes, there is a Coldain Smithy Hammer. Tain Hammerfrost provides it in Eastern Wastes once you save him from some Frost Giants.

[Ashur]

Pretty sure stats were:

Leather Signet
Slot: Ear
AC: 2
STR +2 STA +2 WIS +2 INT +2
WT: 0.1 Size: Tiny
Race: All
Class: All

Add AC: 4 to the Clay Signet

[Gorgin]

Okay snaged the Coldain Smithing Hammer from Tain(should specify that for idiots like me), failed first attempt at Purified Bar, second attempt yielded
Pure Enchanted Velium Bar
Magic Item Weight 0.3 Size Small All/All NOT TRIVIAL at 225 smithing

[Gorgin]

Okay just asked Aid Grimmel for the JC portion of the quest, he says I am skilled but lack the knowledge he requires(meaning insufficient flags), so the flag required for the JC portion is NOT Terris, Marr, Agnarr, Tallon, Vallon or any of the sub flags under them, I'm just missing Bertox and Saryrn of the flags before Rallos so the flag required is either Rallos himself or you need Bertox and/or Saryrn to get this part.

[Kronepsis]

Adding up to here. Dang, you guys are sleepless!

[Yalum]

Rallos was first killed just two days ago, and we've had the jewelcraft recipe for some time now. That can't be the right flag.

[Kronepsis]

Hendel claims that he is "RZ" flagged the same day the recipe was posted on 11/25.

Or am I misinterpreting RZ as Rallos Zek when it should be something else?

[Yalum]

I would assume that means he had access to RZ (the Tallon and Vallon flags), not that he had killed him.

[Kronepsis]

Modifying to reflect that.

[Ashur]

As of today's patch (December 4) the combination of Faceted Blue Diamond + Enchanted Bar of Pure Velium + Clay Signet in a Planar Jewlers Kit results in:

Velium Blue Diamond Ring
Magic Lore No Drop
Slot: Finger
AC: 10
HP: +65 Mana: +65
Save versus all +5
Effect: Enduring Breath
Wt: 0.1 Size: Tiny
All/All

All 3 items are consumed in the crafting of this piece which did not give a trivial message at 250 Jewel Craft + Geerlok Gemsetter.

When handed to Aid Grimel he says:

Quite a nice ring you have made for me Ashur. May it serve me as well as my old one. Here take this signet. We seem to be finishing tasks on my list at a nice pace. Tell me when you are ready to use some clay.
You gain experience

Wooden Signet
Magic Lore No Drop
Slot: Ear
AC: 6
Str: +6 Sta: +6 Wis: +6 Int: +6 HP: +20 Mana: +20
Wt 1.5 Size: Tiny
All/All

The ring is NOT returned for those of you already wondering.

So off to the pottery wheel as he laughed at my (sub-200) pottery skill with his usual brand of humor which I'll let you discover on your own.

[Gorgin]

oh sorry I'm Hendel I probably meant Vallon and Tallon Zek not RZ(too many Zeks gets confusing sorry), Hendel is my global Ezboard account, Gorgin my in-game name on Tunare. I'm a 250 JCer so it was lack of a flag not skill that caused me not to get the JC recipy last night.

[Kronepsis]

Then can you pin down which flag it is then?

[KennyCelican]

Is it possible to run through this more than once? I ask for all those out there who are drooling already over that ring, and who have run an Iksar monk w/o twinking and gone through the trouble of picking up an extra (one level lower) shackle.

[Khoren Stonefall]

Aid Grimel told me I did not have enough experience with the planes when I tried this after doing TZ and VZ, but I haven't checked for a long time, and I will check again.

I have everything needed to enter the Tower of Solusek Ro EXCEPT Saryrn. So I have not got the Saryrn flag, and I have not, as a result, had Maelin decipher the Zek info to let me into Sol Ro Tower.

Khoren

[Ashur]

Kenny,

I don't see any reason you cannot run through this more than once. I grabbed an extra BP from Grimmel to clean up/temper/imbue and from there it's just some simple brewing and about 2K in JC to get the ring again assuming no fails.

It's no drop, so not a bad (somewhat backwards) interim reward for redoing the steps.

[Gorgin]

I have Vallon, Tallon, Marr, Agnarr, Terris flags among the gods, I can get the Brewing portion of the quest but can NOT recieve the Jewelcraft portion OR the Smithing portion. The assumption atm is that you need Bertox for smithing which is almost 100% correct, the JC portion would have to be Saryryn if anyone outside of AL is getting the JC portion since ONLY AL has killed Rallos.

[Kronepsis]

Editing to reflect that then. :)

[Gorgin]

Had a guild potter try I am ready to use some clay, he's a 250 potter and could not recieve the quest due to insufficient flags, he has all the flags I have(Marr, Agnarr, TT, Lower CoD, Tallon, Vallon Zek)

[Khoren Stonefall]

I can verify the following:

I had Terris, Bertoxx, MM, TZ, VZ, and could NOT get the jewelling part. I got Saryrn, and then I COULD do the jewelling part. The key for Jewelling is Saryrn. And I checked that BEFORE I went to Maelin to decipher the info.

I can also verify that Terris, Bertoxx, Saryrn, MM, TZ, and VZ, _WITHOUT_ talking to Maelin and getting flagged to fight Rallos Zek ("I have information." is not enough to do the Pottery part.

But as soon as you get flagged by Maelin to be allowed to go after Rallos Zek, you CAN do the Pottery portion (which means I didn't get any more kills--I just talked to Maelin). So up to this point, Agnarr is not involved, and neither is anything past Rallos or in Sol Ro.

---

You say, 'I am ready to use some clay.'

You will receive:
Urn Pattern
NO DROP
WT: 0.1 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

Aid Grimel says 'On our last tome gathering expedition a stray arrow in the Plane of War struck our urn filled with sacred water. It was quite a waste of sacred water! Three large enchanted blocks of clay, three lacquered opals, a vial of purified mana, a ceramic lining, sculpting tools and the urn pattern should make an unfired urn. The urn is so large you will need to fire it with three divine crystalline glazes. Once you have the urn it needs to be filled with three sacred waters and the signet as a cap.'

It is very very late for me right now, and I haven't finished the jewelling part yet. I will try my best to do this tomorrow as soon as I am home.

EDIT: A guildmate told me sacred water drops from "The knights in the tents in Valor." I will try to verify for you, unless someone else can please.

[Khoren Stonefall]

Sacred Urn Combine was nontrivial at 250:

3 Lacquered Opals
3 Large Blocks of Enchanted Clay
1 Sculpting Tools
1 Vial of Purified Mana
1 Ceramic Lining
1 Urn Pattern as given by Aid Grimel

Unfired Sacred Urn
WT: 0.1 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

The firing stage--get this--gave no trivial message at 250 (!). Maybe it was no fail, but who knows.

Unfired Sacred Urn
3 Divine Crystalline Glazes

Sacred Urn
Container
LORE ITEM, NODROP
WT: 0.4, Weight Reduction: 0%
Capacity: 4, Size Capacity: LARGE

I do not have the sacred waters that go inside yet. Gonna work on that tonight!

[Demorgoth]

Here's my Seer text:

[Sat Dec 07 03:32:55 2002] You say, 'what guided meditation'
[Sat Dec 07 03:32:55 2002] The portal into the Plane of Fire has been altered. Miak needs you to find the correct way to channel the portal.
[Sat Dec 07 03:32:55 2002] Giwin would like you to find him in Drunder so he can present you to Rallos Zek.
[Sat Dec 07 03:32:55 2002] Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.
[Sat Dec 07 03:32:55 2002] The information obtained from Mithaniel is written in a language that you cannot comprehend.
[Sat Dec 07 03:32:55 2002] You have obtained the Talisman of Thunderous Foyer from Askr, he seeks further assistance in the Bastion of Thunder.
[Sat Dec 07 03:32:55 2002] Mithaniel has been bested. An aura surrounds the mystical symbols that have appeared on your arm.
[Sat Dec 07 03:32:55 2002] Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek could be quite useful.
[Sat Dec 07 03:32:56 2002] Terris Thule's grasp over Thelin has been released.
[Sat Dec 07 03:32:56 2002] Bertoxxulous has been slain, the curse from Milyk now lifted.

For the Smithing quest, I get: ....such a limited knowledge of the planes...

edit:

OK, I was wrong. After this, I went back and spoke to the people in the sick house. The bottom 2 flags changed to:

Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.
Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adier are forever in your debt.

Going back to Aid Grimel, I was then able to receive the filthy BP.

So, confirmed that smithing quest is obtained by killing Bertox AND completing the text in the sick house in PoTranq.

[CaiserSoze]

Hmmmmm.....just had a thought - has anyone yet had a failure in these combines? Unless I'm having a brainfart, I've seen nothing but 'not trivial at ....' reports, but don't remember seeing a multiple attempt reported yet..... could possibly be that the minimum skill level, flags, and gathering components are *all* you need for the quest, and that the actual combines, or at least the final combines, are no-fail...

[Khoren Stonefall]

I failed the bar of pure enchanted velium combine, and two of the constitutional combines.

I assume you can't fail the combines that involve your signet itself, and you probably can't fail the BP combines (and if you can, it's probably returned), but I'll bet you can fail the Urn (it has no special components--just a bunch of tradeskill stuff) and, as I said, I can verify you can fail the bar. A fairly expensive little trinket it is, too. :p

[Kronepsis]

Updated up to here. :)

[Khoren Stonefall]

My information was correct about the tents in Valor. We got our first drop off a megaman model mob, one of the Sergeants. I was told by my friend that they got one off a regular human model, but they couldn't remember if it was named or not.

Sacred Water
NO DROP
This is a refreshing drink.
WT: 0.4, Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

One so far. Working on it as we speak.

EDIT: Took 2.5 hours to get 3 from that camp, and when all was said and done all three came from the Sergeants/Captain with Megaman model (you know the one!). I also learned these sacred waters are for the alternate HOH Entrance quest, so if you want to know more about where to get them, I'd look in those threads.

So! Verified!

Combine in Sacred Urn:
3x Sacred Water
Wooden Signet

And you end up with:

Filled Sacred Urn
MAGIC ITEM, LORE ITEM, NO DROP
WT: 0.1, Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

Gonna go hand it in in a few minutes =)

[Khoren Stonefall]

Handed in the urn.

Aid Grimel says, 'Outstanding work Khoren! I can feel the purity of the water radiating through the clay. Are ye skilled with the needle as well as an accomplished potter?'

And he gives you:

Metal Signet
Slot: EAR
AC: 8
STR: +8, STA: +8, WIS: +8, INT: +8, HP: +35, Mana: +35
SV FIRE: +3, SV DISEASE: +3, SV COLD: +3, SV MAGIC +3, SV POISON: +3
WT: 1.5, Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

And it has the fishbone earring icon.

The trigger text for the 5th step is:

You say, 'I am skilled with the needle.'

And, as we already knew, my flags are insufficient to do this next step.

I have Terris, Saryrn, Bertox, Mith Marr, TZ, and VZ. I do not have Agnarr, or RZ, or anything beyond.

Looks like the reward is starting to pick up. Surely the 5th step will replace my lizardbone earring. And I sure hope there's two more steps beyond that!

[Kronepsis]

That signet is starting to look really REALLY nice.

[Ashur]

Nice job Khoren!

There is Baking at least ahead of us... hoping for Fletching as well. Hope the 5th Signet is worth wearing!

For the Tailoring part you will need access to drops from the Elemental Plane of Fire.

I'm stuck on pottery skillups at the moment. Having all the skills maxed ahead of time must help quite a bit.

Good luck!

[Role Meggido]

This is offically going to be the most involved and intense trade skill quest.

Move over shawl 8.

[Khoren Stonefall]

I don't think most people will consider this quest worth doing tradeskills specifically to complete. Just about everyone I know who has the shawl moaned about every second they spent tradeskilling. I treat this more like a reward quest. :)

But I guess we'll only really know when we see the reward at the last stages.

[Lilosh2]

Personally, This quest boggles my mind. Let me explain.

I can see making a quest that requires UBAR planar drops for turnins. There is precedent for this.

I can see requiring decent tradeskill levels for a NICE item. Shawls have set the precedent.

But putting in a quest that requires you to have 250(Or slightly less) in all tradeskills strikes me as a bit.... un-neccessary.

How many people are going to have access to top tier planes, and 230-250+ in all tradeskills necessary? One or two per server, eventually?


It seems like they spent a fair amount of time on something that less then 1 in 10,000 players will ever see.


Dedicated people like Khoren and the 1750 club deserve a reward, I suppose. But it seems as though requiring someone to spend weeks/months to GM all skills, then requiring top-tier planar items and level 65 is just...... time that could have been spent elsewhere.


This is not a complaint, mind you, just an observation.


-Lilosh

[Kronepsis]

The Prayer Shawl also had you use combinations of tradeskills in some parts...like Shawl 7. :D

Right now the no drop parts have only been requiring 1 to 2 tradeskills at a time per part, and already the 4th part makes the 6th Coldain Shawl reek of rancid cheese, in comparison (if you ignore Shawls 1 and 2, which don't really use tradeskills...) ... and we STILL have the Tailoring one to wait for to show us something flashy. If they treat this like the Prayer Shawls, we're probably going to see something nasty to deal with that requires that 220 in 4 or 5 tradeskills REAL soon, that will hopefully give us something really, REALLY droolworthy.

[Khoren Stonefall]

Ya, I'm not sure how other people feel about this quest, but I remember the day I read about NTCM (a few weeks before PoP) I thought "I hope hope hope hope hope hope hope they put in a special recipe or a very special quest for people who go all the way to 1750." I have no doubt that if the reward is very droolworthy, there will be people who will take it upon themselves to do the trades when, in the absence of a quest, they wouldn't have. But more than anything, this looks the reward that almost seems like a logical extension of the implementation of NTCM. This seems like a quest made for tradeskillers, not a quest requiring tradeskills.

I think that if there's a valid criticism here, it's that this quest isn't just about tradeskills--it's also about OWNING PoP, which is not something that every 1750 tradeskiller will find feasible or desirable.

At the same time, I was a 1750 only fourteen days after PoP came out. Tradeskills don't erode over time, so every day the number of tradeskill points in all of EQ on active players goes up, and, anyway, there are a LOT of 250/200's who could skill up to do the Grimel quest just given a few weeks. I guess if the reward from this quest is really great, they'll have wanted to put not only an element of major risk into it (believe me, if I thought 1750 was bad, being able to be online to get every flag is a killer for my schedule), but also to slow down its entry into the game. If it was just a matter of being 1750 (or, say, 220 in everything, or whatever) and gathering some stuff I'd already have it, Sonami would already have it, and so, I'm sure, would a handful of other people.

For me, this quest is a dream come true, because although I'm not in the first guild in all EQ that's going to have to flags to do this, I am confident that we'll be able to do it in relatively good time, and first on our server. It rewards both of my EQ aspirations--tradeskill success and "regular" success.

If this is the "big tradeskill reward," then I hope for people who do not aspire to the rush rush rush of getting all the flags required, but who love to tradeskill, there is also something neat to acknowledge their accomplishment, too.

So, anyway, I guess I'm rambling. In short: There are MANY rewards to getting all those flags, but this looks like the one thing that rewards total tradeskill domination. I wouldn't hold the septuple grandmastery requirement against it--that's it's most important trait. A more legitimate beef would be that it doesn't reward tradeskilling on its own merits. It requires a lot more than some very passionate traders are able or interested in giving.

P.S. It looks like every stage requires 220, I think. That's actually pretty softcore compared to all 250s, given that there are already probably several 250/200's in PoP-ready guilds. And remember, for groups AA points come a LOT faster in PoP than they did before.

[Khoren Stonefall]

Further insight. This was intimated above where Ashur said the tailoring part requires Fire drops, but I don't think it was verified:

We know stage four requires you to decipher the information, so there was really no compelling (or logical) reason to believe Agnarr would be the key for stage five, and I can verify he's not. Or maybe it was verified. I'm overdosed on cold medication. :p

Terris
Bertoxx
Saryrn
Mith Marr
Agnarr/Karana
Tallon Zek
Vallon Zek

Are insufficient for part five.

[Verdandi]

Just a small note that we are planning to get this quest up on the site, there's just a bit of delay as the DenMom is swamped with other stuff. We will be getting your writeup on the site asap (and update as necessary, of course!) :)

[Ashur]

The baking quest ("I am a Master Chef") requires either Rallos Zek or Solosek Ro flag. Aid Grimel told me I needed more experience in the planes until I had this.

My baking skill is sub-200 and Aid Grimel tells me if he wanted bad food he'd go back to Rivervale and eat some of that slop Ella passes off as fine cuisine; and to come back when I have mastered the frying pan.

I am not sure if this is to immediately follow the tailoring quest or whether it is even later (after fletching or something), because I have not yet gotten my skill in tailoring to the point where I can get this quest.

The fact that the tailoring quest requires Elemental Plane of Fire drops was learned by a guildmate who has the appropriate tailoring skill and the same flags as I, but has not done the previous parts of the quest.

I'm also glad to report that the Faceted Blue Diamond and the Enchanted Bar of Pure Velium are now No Drop. They were not prior to the patch that allowed the successful combination of the Velium Blue Diamond Ring.

[Ashur]

Minor update: I redid the quest to the point where you create the Velium Blue Diamond Ring so I can keep it. So yes, it can be done.

I got the pottery quest at exactly 220 unmodified Pottery (not given at 218 + Geerlok).

I have also failed to make the urn in the wheel three times at that 220 + geerlok. Looks like I need to raise my skill some more, because I'd hate to get lucky here and then fail in the kiln and face the prospect of needing 3 more divine crystalline glazes.

I like a challenge.

[Shaman Arriana]

I guess my problem with this quest is that the rewards well...kinda suck.

The smithing reward should be the 3rd or 4th signet, and they should improve dramatically from there. It isn't just a matter of GMing multiple tradeskills (lord knows that's bad enough), and getting the AA to do it, but also the enourmous amount of work involved in getting the necesary flags. The velium blue diamond ring is a decent enough item, but if you are flagged for it, you have access to a Ring of Destruction from AoW - a substantially better item -, or even better rings than that (Seru ring, Emp ring, etc). For all the time that needs to be invested to even qualify for the quest, the rewards seem to be notably lacking.

Assuming that this quest does involve all 7 of the base tradeskills, and looking at the current progression, the 7th will require Plane of Time access at minimum (and probably some kind of sub-flag withing PoTime...maybe even going so far as reversing the imprisonment of Zeboruxok)..what kind of signet would be a fair reward?

Jeweled Velium Signet Traced With Acrylia Runes: AC30, All stats+20, All resists+20, Hp/Mana+175, Effect: Flowing Thought X, Effect: Vengeance X, Right click: ...I don't know, Revivisence? Sunstrike? Avatar? Complete Heal?

That's the kind of reward that would justify this kind of expendature, and the current progression of signets just doesn't look like it is making it there.

[Khoren Stonefall]

The first 7 of 10 Coldain rings are garbage, as are the first 6 of 8 shawls. I'm actually very encouraged by the progression so far.

I wouldn't overestimate the difficulty of getting the fourth stage finished. Most servers, I'm sure, have at least one guild that's flagged along this far, and if the reward was already worth something, a lot more people would have the skills to do it. One of my guildmates in the past two weeks has gotten his smithing from nothing to 220+ (he was over it last night when I logged with 120 combines to go), and in not more than about 50k, and in the week before that he knocked off Jewelling and Brewing.

Every single day, multiple grandmasters become more common, and every single day the flags required are flagged onto more people. As PoP matures, these first four steps are going to look like less and less of a big deal. Remember, normal people aren't earning their flags specifically to do this quest--this quest just becomes available as a free perk of their progression.

I was actually surprised they added saves at only the fourth step. The past progression-type quests (shawl, rings, Seru earring) have all had only their last two stages leap significantly ahead of their first stages.

Also, the first four stages are only tier three content. If you can kill Bertoxx for the first stage, I GUARENTEE you can do everything you need to do to get to stage four. Stage five is a very significant leap ahead, content-wise, through a more demanding encounter (Rallos) and into a new tier entirely.

We won't know until we see the last rewards, but I, for one, am optimistic.

[Shaman Arriana]

But the first 7 coldain rings can be gotten in a single day, and require you to (at worst) be at around 50 in smithing/tailoring. Trivial.

By happy coincidence, I am 250 smithing and brewing. So, given the proper flags (soon...soon...) I'll be able to get the second signet. And there it will stop. Getting flagged sufficiently for the third looks fairly challenging for most guilds (most guilds will never kill the behemoth...he's WAY strong for a tier1 boss). The prospect of pushing a third (and fourth, and fifth...) tradeskill over 200 makes me want to crawl under a table and weep...particularly since one of those is tailoring.

Call it selfish, but I want a better earring for GMing 2 skills :roll:

[EnfinitiStarr8]

Hail fellow tradeskillers,
This does look like a grand quest but I agree I dont like all the flags that are required with it. I am only in my lower 50's and no where near UBER in anyway, I have most all my trade skills up, not mastered but getting closer everyday and wish I could do this quest. I have always wanted to go 250 in all trade skills and hope one day I still will, but even if I did I dont think I would ever see the flags to do this quest.
To get to a question I have, I tried reading the quest but it's too crazey for me to understand fully how it is set up now. I would love to have the Velium Blue Diamond Ring with EB but am conffused on what flags I need. Can someone show me how to read this right. :D I've been doing finals in college and 2+2=9 to me right now :oops: .
Thank you all have a good season. Karana bless you.

[Khoren Stonefall]

By happy coincidence, I am 250 smithing and brewing. So, given the proper flags (soon...soon...) I'll be able to get the second signet. And there it will stop. Getting flagged sufficiently for the third looks fairly challenging for most guilds.

Behemoth is a troublesome fight, no question, but I think most guilds who can defeat Bertoxx to begin step one of this quest can steamroll the Behemoth. Behemoth seems to be doable with a lesser, or at least less-well-balanced force than Bertoxx. Maybe we lucked into a superior strategy for Behemoth, or have an inferior one for Bertoxx, or both... But the way I see it, Behemoth is a fight where you need a good strategy, competent behaviour, and maybe a bit of luck. Bertoxx, on the other hand, is a much more honest fight (sorta like Marr)--he'll beat you on fair terms, through his melee damage. The Behemoth will just beat you with tricks and adds and positioning issues if something goes wrong. All things considered, a less experienced or less well-equipped guild should be able to hammer out the Behemoth fight before they manage the Bertoxx one.

That is, if the competition isn't so fierce for Behemoth that you get no time to learn by doing, or no chances at all. :/

Anyway, I think if you can get Bertoxx, you can get to stage four. He seems to be the hardest of the fights up to that point.

[Shaman Arriana]

We'll probably be killing TT before Bertox, and that might be sufficient flagging. I'll check when the time comes. We've done behemoth, and tallon zek, but not made any tries at Bertox yet.

Thankfully, the 3rd trade you need is jewelcraft, so it is just a matter of 3AA and about 8-10kpp to get to that point. Once it gets into skills that need farming, I just might be too burnt out for it :)

[Gorgin]

It's Bertox for step 1, Marr for step2, Saryrn for step 3 for sure. I can do the brewing portion but not step 1 or 3(250 in all 3 tradeskills) because I don't have Bertox or Saryrn yet, so unless you can kill Bertox you won't be even getting earring 1.

[Kellan]

The reason for the flags is simple: The later stage rewards are going to be on par with the loot from higher tier planes, and it would be "unbalancing" to have a L20 character with something like that AC30 +everything earring hoped for earlier.

The fourth stage reward is already approaching the stats on the earring that Tunare drops, save the FT3. Presuming a reasonable progression for the final stages, the end result for this quest will be one of the best earrings in the game ... and there is no way Verant will allow you to avoid the leveling/raiding time(sink) normally required to obtain exceptional items.

I believe Verant included this quest to not only reward dedicated tradeskillers, but to entice more players into our time/cash sinkhole in order to get the reward item.

[Yalum]

Well, there's already a limit of level 50 and 18 AA to GM all the tradeskills. And it's hard to say someone who stops at 50 for that many AA doesn't deserve at least one good item.

Not that it matters much to me personally, my biggest kill to date would be Velk or Gozzrem, and I'll probably still have a Bert flag before I'm a GM smith. :)

[Demorgoth]

Any news yet on the 5th level flag requirements? I'm guessing Sol Ro, but possible Rallos Zek. Anyone with either of those flags tried the trigger words to confirm?

[Naedayr]

Baking requires rallos zek be dead. I have everything but sol ro and fire flags so far, and he responds to me. In addition 200 skill is not enough.

[Demorgoth]

OK, so looking like:

L5 = Tailoring 220 + Sol Ro
L6 = Baking 220 + Rallos

Makes sense.

[Kronepsis]

Not if getting to Sol Ro requires you to off RZ...or did I understand the order of progression in the planes wrong?

[Shaman Arriana]

Not sure if this was an issue but:

I tried talking to him last night after the guild went on a rampage of killing.
I have: Valor/Storms, CoDecay (got last night), Tactics, Torment (TT down last night) access, and it wasn't enough. I'm 1 medallion away from BoT, and I'll probably be getting that before Bertox, so I'll see if the combination of all of that is enough.

[jugador]

its not, you need Bertox plain and simple

[Gorgin]

Just confirming stuff
Bertox for Smithing 100%, Washing and Tempering the BP both Trivial at 231 smithing, adding the Diamonds was NOT trivial.
Mithaniel Marr 100% for Brewing, the Final combine NOT trivial at 250 Brewing.
I believe it's Saryrn for JC 100% because I can't get that step even with 250 JC and she's the ONLY flag mob under Rallos Zek that I'm missing.

[Kronepsis]

Thanks for the confirmations. :)

[Khoren Stonefall]

I can guarentee you it's either Saryrn herself OR the completion of of the Tylis Newleaf script that you complete immediately after killing her in original plot order. Recall that when I did it, there was no way to kill Saryrn and get flagged and NOT be able to finish Tylis immediately after. Now, you can apparently get credit for her (see the last patch message) even out of plot order, and have Maelin plot-order your flaggage at your convenience.

I know this because I could not do the step, then I killed Saryrn, finished the Tylis script, and then went to see Aid Grimel, and he gave me step three. At this point, I could not do Step four. Then I walked two steps to the left and talked to Maelin ("I have information") and got flagged to enter the tower of Sol Ro (I had done all else before hand) and then immediately walked two steps back over to Aid Grimel, and he coughed up step four.

Now that you can (as I understand it) get Saryrn credit without being in original plot order (in which Tylis was ready to be finished immediately after the Saryrn flag was earned), we have to check.

The following test needs to be done by someone appropriately flagged:

Kill Saryrn. Get flag. DO NOT FINISH WITH TYLIS. Talk to Aid Grimel. Report result.
If there is no access to step three: Finish with Tylis. Talk to Aid Grimel. Report result.

My gut tells me it was Tylis, which, like step four is a synthesis flag ("I have information" puts together many achievements (RZ/TZ/Saryrn/MM) into one flag).

The fact that we can get credit out of plot order now vastly complicates these things. It's no longer as simple as saying "It's Bertoxx for this, and Saryrn for that." It's not 100% sure that we kill Bertoxx to get access to step one, since you can now technically (again, as I understand it) be credited for killing Bertoxx WITHOUT being able to finish the Elder Furstiel script immediately after. My money's on needing to complete these synthesis stages for most or all steps, which means for the purposes of this quest, we receive no benefit from getting kill credit out of plot order until we complete everything that we would have had to do originally.

[Demorgoth]

I know for a fact that the first step (Bertox) is reliant on the completion of the quest, rather than simply hailing the PP. I had killed Bertox, hailed the PP, and was unable to get the smithing quest. After running to the sick house, hailing the people there to complete their quests, and then running back to PoK, I was then able to get the smithing quest.

[Gorgin]

Saryrn flag is JUST saryrn, I got it tonight and deliberately did not finish the Newleaf sequence and recieved the JC portion of the quest with 250 JC.

[Gorgin]

heh got bored tonight and decided to get the brew barrel to see if it could be used to making anything BUT the twice brewed Kaladim. I tried Ale and low and behold it DOES work as a portable brewing container. It is only a 4 slot container so you can only do 4 slot combines in it but it would allow you to do field brewing if you want to make 4 slot drinks.
*edit* Just tried a Heady Kiola and it works for sure. Rejoice all you tailors you can make heady kiolas while you hunt assuming you have the flags to get the barrel....

[Niami DenMother]

Until a permissions problem is sorted out on the main site, this file isn't located where I want it to be, but I think I've got the most recent summary from this thread up on the site now ...

http://www.eqtraders.com/pop_aid_grimel.htm

Will edit this post when the above file is properly moved into the quests directory. :)

[Naedayr]

I have every flag up to Sol Ro, and he responds to I am a master chef. Unfortunately the text he gives stops in the middle of a word, and does not continue. This quest is not completable after tailoring, if baking is the next step. I have not done the tailoring portion as of yet, because I do not have the sol ro flag as of today. As soon as I get it, I'll test the text string.

It would be great if a developer could look at the master chef text with aid grimel, I've bugged it once already.

[Lizzzard]

It would be great if a developer could look at the master chef text with aid grimel, I've bugged it once already.

Its actually a much bigger bug ... ALL NPC text seems to be cut off after a certain length currently

[Kronepsis]

That's a very VERY nice thing to know about Gorgin. Thanks! :D

[Ainyan Dar`Mori]

Devs didn't realize that while GM-type chars can see full dialogues, regular play chars couldn't. A GM and I got together and confirmed it on a number of NPCs and she sent in a report to the devs, so hopefully after months of bugging this, they'll finally fix it because they have proof now.

[Mudcrush Durtfeet]

My smithing was 217 with a 10% mod item...

It did NOT let me do the quest, he insulted my smithing skill.

I conjecture that he no longer considers your bonus trade skill items.

[Kronepsis]

And modified.

[jugador]

no info on what is required for the tailoring portion yet?

[Forty]

I can confirm that a Smithing skill of 220 is needed to start the Smithing part of this quest. As mentioned in previous posts, looks like 220 might be needed for each part regardless of modifier.

[Kronepsis]

Thanks Forty. :)

jugador: My guess is 220 Tailoring and Rallos Zek dead, so try shooting for that. HOWEVER, no one has confirmed anything, so please do not take that as fact. (Standard C.Y.A. text)

[jugador]

There's atleast 10 guilds that have killed RZ and prolly Sol Ro along with that (access to PoF). Last I heard, rumor is you need tailoring and access to Fire. I have that access, unfortunately I'm only at 192 tailoring atm, and its not something I can do in one sitting to get to 220 :( Just trying to push the quest along, if anyone has 220 and access to fire, would like to hear the next requirements :)

[Nyteshadow]

Not sure if this is the appropriate place, but is there a problem with this item dropping, have spend about 9 hours over the past 2 days with 2 groups of guildmates "raid" on em, not seen a single Sacred Water drop... any information would be appreciated!

Thanks!

[SinolaAB]

Sacred water drops more or less off Valorium Guards in plane of valor.... I recall getting 2-3 when PoP first came out and we were exploring killing stuff. There is a camp of guards with a bunch of tents. Kill a bunch of those and get some sacred water.

[Torelan]

I am not sure if it's been posted before, but I can now confirm that the baking part of this quest requires the Rallos Zek flag

Killed RZ tonight and when saying "I am a master chef" he responded with this:

Aid Grimel says 'When we adventure in the Planes there is only one meal that keeps us in top fighting shape. It is called a Bristlebane's Party Platter. Unfortunately the platter is awkward and not easy to adventure with so you need to place them in this satchel. I know not how to make the Platter, a rather nice female Halfling cleric always used to deliver them to us but I heard she was crushed by a Regrua while hunting for a rare component in the Plane of Water. Brell bless her soul! Combine three of the'


Text gets cut short apparently and it's now 2:30am so too tired to test much :)

[Nyteshadow]

Sacred water drops more or less off Valorium Guards in plane of valor.... I recall getting 2-3 when PoP first came out and we were exploring killing stuff. There is a camp of guards with a bunch of tents. Kill a bunch of those and get some sacred water.

And those are what we've spent 9 hours or more killing over the weekend, nadda one dropped :(

[Demorgoth]

Ditto. Spent time killing those guards, concentrating on the yellow-to-65 megaman model guards. Not seen a single one drop. Anyone on any server had one drop in the last few weeks?

[Naedayr]

Yes, I've had 2 drop in one day. And none another day. Still need one.

[Kronepsis]

I am not sure if it's been posted before, but I can now confirm that the baking part of this quest requires the Rallos Zek flag

Killed RZ tonight and when saying "I am a master chef" he responded with this:

Aid Grimel says 'When we adventure in the Planes there is only one meal that keeps us in top fighting shape. It is called a Bristlebane's Party Platter. Unfortunately the platter is awkward and not easy to adventure with so you need to place them in this satchel. I know not how to make the Platter, a rather nice female Halfling cleric always used to deliver them to us but I heard she was crushed by a Regrua while hunting for a rare component in the Plane of Water. Brell bless her soul! Combine three of the'


Text gets cut short apparently and it's now 2:30am so too tired to test much :)
Noted and added. :)

[Forty]

I got three Sacred Water tonight. One off the Captain but after having zero luck over the next few hours we moved to the two Guards that are just inside the building next to the GY. I got the next two from the yellow con with in 10 total kills so you might want to try there if you haven't.

[Demorgoth]

Thanks for the confirmation. Guess I'm just on one of those bad random number runs that seem to hound tradeskillers hehe

[Shaman Arriana]

Official guess follows:

3 of the party platters and your old signet in this container, and return it to me for the next one.

I really hope that the thursday patch fixes the NPC text cut-off problem, it is becoming extremely annoying.

[Yalum]

Just ran around Rivervale, Misty Thicket, Shadowhaven and Fungus spamming "what bristlebane's party platter". A long shot at best, but if Grimel doesn't give out the actual recipe, it's not any of the halfling bakers I know of who does.

[Demorgoth]

a rather nice female Halfling cleric always used to deliver them to us but I heard she was crushed by a Regrua while hunting for a rare component in the Plane of Water

aka, camp (generic mobs called?) Regura in PoWater for the rare no-drop food ingredient (like Sacred Water for the previous combine). Same mobs probably drop the actual recipie even more rarely.

Sounds like a Planar Blood Brew type combine.

[Forty]

Ok, If I understand everything correctly, Baking is the next tradeskill in order of flags but Tailoring is mentioned in the text after pottery. So baking would be the next tradeskill I should look into next. (Provided they don't change the quest after this patch.)

Is this correct?

[Gorgin]

Assuming you have the proper flags and the proper skill level you can get the pieces of the quest without doing the steps in order, you would just need the signet to actually DO the quest, that being said step 5 is tailoring since pottery directly leads you into tailoring, step 6 is most likely baking giving that people are getting the text out of him with similar flags.

[Forty]

Ok, I have RZ flag and can get the Baking text (well, he says my skill isn't high enough) while to do the tailoring I would still need to kill another Boss to gain access to Fire according to another poster. Just seems like Baking "should" have been next then tailoring..../shrug

[Gorgin]

if you're getting the baking part try the tailoring phrase and see if he gives it to you, if he does NOT give it to you then it would seem a case of mixed up flags by verant

[Forty]

Aye, I've killed RZ and have all flags upto killing SolRo for Fire access. I was able to get the baking text while Tailoring still says "need more planar experience." So I dunno, just a little confused I guess.

[Ashur]

Unless anyone has data to the contrary (i.e. has completed the tailoring quest), I propose that it is equally likely that Fletching is the next quest as it is Baking.

The only reason we have the catchphrase to ask about baking is random experimentation. I just told Aid Grimel different phrasings of "I have good skill in cooking" until he responded when told "I am a master chef".

I tried the same with fletching, but haven't hit upon the right phrase yet.

[Gorgin]

Aye the 6th step(after tailoring) could have us using flying gnome rockets to blow up a satelite in Kunark for all we know, the only reason we knew the baking(and tailoring phrase originally) was via pure trial and error+ people with proper flags.

[Demorgoth]

Synopsys of progression beyond Pottery:


Aid Grimel says, 'Outstanding work Khoren! I can feel the purity of the water radiating through the clay. Are ye skilled with the needle as well as an accomplished potter?'

FACT: Tailoring is the next step after Pottery


I can now confirm that the baking part of this quest requires the Rallos Zek flag Killed RZ tonight and when saying "I am a master chef" he responded with this:

FACT: Baking requires the Rallos Zek flag


Aye, I've killed RZ and have all flags upto killing SolRo for Fire access. I was able to get the baking text while Tailoring still says "need more planar experience."

FACT: Nothing before Sol Ro is the Tailoring flag.

ASSUMPTIONS:

This quest has had a flagging 'blockage' before. The very first step was a blockage. If you can get the Bertox flag, the first 4 steps are obtainable. This, to me, hints at 'tiers' within the quest.

The first 'tier' requires a guild of Rallos-attempt power, and has 4 stages. It has one of the hardest tradeskills required to begin (smithing)

The second 'tier' requires a guild of Elemental-attempt power, and has 2 additional stages. It has the other of the hardest tradeskills to begin this tier (tailoring)

The third (final?) stage will probably require either elemental god stages (maybe Fennin), or in a worst case, it'll require PoTime access.

It doesn't make sense to need Sol Ro before Rallos given their relative power, but it does tie in with the first teir in needing Bertox before Marr or the Zeks.

I'm guessing the tailoring step will be a jump with a decent effect tagged on (10 stats, 5 resists, 50/50hp/mana, probably UV/see invis) then the Sol Ro step being a decent jump (15 stats, 10 resists, 75/75, maybe 100/100, maybe Faerune effect, probably a focus too). If you can get the level 5 earring, it's 100% sure you can get the L6 earring. You've maxed 5 tradeskills, what's one more. This earring will be obtained by people with elemental access. I'd expect it to start being of use to the people having put in the work to get it by now.

(note: The next earring after pottery isn't in magelo yet, so if it has been completed, it's not been published)

[Forty]

I could be mistaken but I thought you could originally get to the Plane of Fire without having to kill RZ then SolRo in that order. They made that change to the progression of the flags but might not have changed the quest accordingly.

Either way, I hope to have SolRo killed by this weekend. Until then I can get my tailoring and baking up to 220.

Btw, have you tried Lucy to see if there is anything on the next earring?

[CaiserSoze]

And the new, complete baking text is......? =)

[Forty]

saying "I am a master chef." will get you this reply:


[Fri Jan 10 16:06:51 2003] Aid Grimel says 'When we adventure in the Planes there is only one meal that keeps us in top fighting shape. It is called a Bristlebane's Party Platter. Unfortunately the platter is awkward and not easy to adventure with so you need to place them in this satchel. I know not how to make the Platter, a rather nice female Halfling cleric always used to deliver them to us but I heard she was crushed by a Regrua while hunting for a rare component in the Plane of Water. Brell bless her soul! Combine three of the platters and the signet inside the satchel.'

He then hands you a four-slot Field satchel.

I've tried several different phrases to see if I could get more information but I was unable to get any information on the cleric, platter, rare component or the signet needed to be combined. But I really suck at coming up with the "correct" phrases like this, anyone have any clue as to what might work?

Edit: skill required is 220

[Estichion]

I´m not very familiar with Rivervale, but the solution to the riddle could be found there.


a rather nice female Halfling cleric always used to deliver them to us

If there is a cleric guild or something close to that in Rivervale, i would try to throw some keyphrases like "what Bristlebane´s Party Platter" at the NPC´s there, seems to me like the recipe source in part 2 for the bar of pure velium ;)

[Glasgoss]

I think shes dead. That maybe a mob named the Regrua will drop a recipe (in Halfling). We shall soon see I guess. I might be worng.

[Nairn Niteraven]

There is indeed a Cleric guild in RV right next to the Druid guild. I'll log on and check it out.

[Forty]

There is a Regura Sentry (rangers that have tracked him say they don't see anything else near him with the same or similar name) that is a red con just a tad past the deepest we have gone in Water with a group. Pathing is really really bad in Water and making it tough to get a people to go that deep in. Hopefully I can get some word as to what, if anything the Sentry drops within the next few days.

[Demorgoth]

WHOOT!!! Just downed Solusek Ro on Zeb and ran to speak with Aid Grimel - He had good news!

Comfirmed step 5 = Solusek Ro / Plan of Fire flag

[Mon Jan 13 03:06:32 2003] You say, 'I am skilled with the needle'
[Mon Jan 13 03:06:33 2003] Aid Grimel says 'I appreciate the help Demorgoth. I need a new tunic made for Councilman Taldarius. Last trip through the Plane of Disease, one of those flies spit mucus on him and it dripped through his armor seams! The result was a gooey mess that ate away all the leather underneath. It was a blessing he was wearing something under all that metal! Combine three firesilk swatches, a vial of purified mana, an emblem of fire, a firestrand curing agent, a tunic pattern and the signet. Bring it to me when you have completed it.'

[EnfinitiStarr8]

Whoot whoot! Now we just need the 250 Tailors to get going and make it all! But "a firestrand curing agent" what is that? I dont remember reading where that is from, PC made I take it. The only other thing is knowing EQ's history get a Robe pattern as well as the Tunic pattern when doing the combine, they like to mess that up a lot. Congratz on the flags too Demorgoth.

[Kronepsis]

And actually, that sounds easy--relatively.

After all, it requires the same effort it would take to gather up the supplies for the firestrand robe...except that you need a Purified Mana Vial and the Signet. You already HAVE the signet, and it's not hard to find Purified Mana vial for sale, or to pay an enchanter to enchant one up.

So if you're already making the stuff, it's easy.

*ROFL*

And if you aren't, of course it is a PITA, but at least the Plane of Fire isn't going to be *as* crowded as, say, Plane of Valor.

[Demorgoth]

I was surprised too. Looks like 'common' tradeskilling junk silks and saps and no actual rare piece. The most interesting part to me was the fact that the signet is used in the initial combine. Now, that either means you could have to start from square 1, or that the combine is nofail. I'm really hoping for the latter, LOL

[Shaman Arriana]

So far, the only piece that seems at all rare is the sacred water for the pottery step.

Personally, I don't have a problem with it. Getting 220+ in 7 tradeskills, and elemental plane+ flagged is effort enough without having to scrounge for obscenely rare drops.

[Ilona]

You could also just get the signet back on a fail, like you do the chain in solstice robe failed attempts and the emblems for PoP failed attempts.

[Thorvari]

I´m not very familiar with Rivervale, but the solution to the riddle could be found there.


a rather nice female Halfling cleric always used to deliver them to us

If there is a cleric guild or something close to that in Rivervale, i would try to throw some keyphrases like "what Bristlebane´s Party Platter" at the NPC´s there, seems to me like the recipe source in part 2 for the bar of pure velium ;)

Actually the Nice female halfling cleric sounds like a reference to either Denmother, or the halfling for the druid epic that runs around Misty (Ella something)

[Yalum]

I checked Ms. Foodcrafter, the RV cleric guild, and a number of other hobbits before the last patch without any luck. It's possible I missed the right one, but Plane of Water sounds likely to me, as well.

[Eumerin]

I´m not very familiar with Rivervale, but the solution to the riddle could be found there.


a rather nice female Halfling cleric always used to deliver them to us

If there is a cleric guild or something close to that in Rivervale, i would try to throw some keyphrases like "what Bristlebane´s Party Platter" at the NPC´s there, seems to me like the recipe source in part 2 for the bar of pure velium ;)

Actually the Nice female halfling cleric sounds like a reference to either Denmother, or the halfling for the druid epic that runs around Misty (Ella something)

Denmother?
CRUSHED!!??
How rude!

I certainly hope not! That would hurt!

[Torelan]

Tried the combine for the 5th part tonight but unfortunately failed (with 250 skill). Recipe is as he says, 3 firestrand swatches, 1 firestrand curing agent, 1 tunic pattern (not robe), 1 vial of purified mana and the old signet. Signet returned on failure.

As for the baking part goes we have been messing around in plane of water also. In here are mobs called regrua which are big crabs. These drops the claws used in the baking recipe, and also a non stackable Regrua meat which seems like it would be for the baking part. Will look into that once I get 3 more obsidianwood saps and finish part 5.

[Atorsh]

Well im sort of stuck and since its the place to discuss the GMquest imma ask here.... I CANNOT MAKE THE ACID WASH!!!

I know it seems silly but i did the recipie:

1 acid jar
3 Celestial essences

in a brew barrel.

And its not happening. Did they change the recipie or am i just totally bugged here. TY)

Atorsh

[Kronepsis]

Did you do it in the Plane of Knowledge or somewhere else?

All the combines are assuming you're doing them in either a container with the word "Planar" in it (like the Planar Fletching Kit) or a container in the Plane of Knowledge.

[Atorsh]

Yeah i found the problem... i thought that the recipie was an old one used for other purposes so i was using reg barrel. TY!)

Atorsh

[Naedayr]

Fire Undergarment Tunic
Magic item Lore No drop
wt:10.0 Size Large
Class: War Clr Pal Shd Brd
Race: Hum Bar Eru Elf Hie Def Hef Dwf Trl Ogr Hfl Gnm Vah

[Thu Jan 16 14:03:24 2003] Aid Grimel inspects the tunic. 'Good work Naedayr. This will definitely serve Councilman Taldarius well. Here take this! If you have skills with a fletching knife I may have a job for you to do.'

Marked Signet
Slot: Ear
Str: 12 Sta 12 Wis 12 Hp 75 Mana 75
7 all save
wt 1.5 size tiny
Class: all
race: all

[EnfinitiStarr8]

Marked Signet
Slot: Ear
Str: 12 Sta 12 Wis 12 Hp 75 Mana 75
7 all save
wt 1.5 size tiny
Class: all
race: all

What? That's it? It's almost worse then the Metal Signet; upgrading from that to this LOSSES 8 AC and 8 INT. I hope this was just forgotten and will be added later by Sony or if Naedayr just missed writing it (I hope that). Just going to be interesting to see the very last Signet!

[Naedayr]

Half the stuff I typed didn't get through lets see.

Ac 12
12 wis/int/sta/str
7 sv fire/cold/magic/dids/poison
75 hp/mana

[EnfinitiStarr8]

Ah...thank you Naedayr. I was hopeing that was the case. That Signet is a bit better, still wondering what the last one will be, 20 to all Stats/Saves with 200 HP/Mana? I just really want the last one or two to have an effect and/or a focus like the 8th Shawl but with something more for the melees also please! Thank you again for posting the full info Naedayr.

[Naedayr]

+ 4 ac/stats/saves +40hp/mana and it's a *bit* better? heh. Next step is gonna be nice enough to wear for me most likely`

[Shaman Arriana]

Depressing that it takes to the 6th (or is that the 5th?) earring before it becomes something that most people in that situation would really consider wearing.

The last one had better be a monumental upgrade.

[jugador]

Fletching text is approximately:

aye i can see you are skilled blah blah. it is good too, i need to replace councilman taldarius' bow from plane of air. Combine a planning tool, two wind metal bow cams, an air arachnid silk string a featherwood staff and the signet. i hope the bow will be up to his standards he sure loved his old bow.

Copied from a guildmate, so not exact text, but obviously you need the materials for a PoAir Bow+signet.

[Mudcrush Durtfeet]

water is baking...

I have a suspicion that this may not stop with a 7th quest...

there will probably be an 8th quest involving plane of earth and higher requirements on trade skills... perhaps multiple.

Perhaps even a 9th involving plane of time?

Only time will tell...

With the 5th earring being 12 ac/stats 7 resists 75 hp/mana I suspect the 7th will have at least 125hp/mana... this is going to be very interesting to see...

[Gorgin]

Further Flag Clarification
Bertox=1st Step
Marr=2nd Step
Saryrn=3rd Step
Everything to fight Rallos=4th Step
5th Step =/ Just Rallos
6th Step =/ Just Rallos
Baking Step = Just Rallos

=/ is does not for anyone who didn't understand that symbol

[Forty]

Step 5 = SolRo dead (flagged for Plane of Fire)

I could get text for Baking pre-PoFire but not the tailoring. Not sure on the Fletching.

[Naedayr]

Quest is as stated for the fletching combine, next step is baking Fletching turn in results in:

Runed Signet
Magic Item Lore Item No Drop
AC: 15
STR: 15 DEX: 15 STA: 15 WIS:15 INT: 15 AGI: !5
HP: +100 MANA: +100
SV FIRE: +10 SV DISEASE: +10 SV COLD: +10 SV MAGIC: +10 SV POISON: +10
Effect: Aura of Regeneration (Worn)
Class: All
Race: All


Quite worth wearing, one step to go at a minimum.

[Forty]

Looking like a very nice item, Congrats.

Please keep us updated on the baking part of the quest. :)

[Kronepsis]

Think someone can get the Original text though please?

[EnfinitiStarr8]

Can we also please get the stats for the bow made with the Signet. Is it just like the other bow but No Drop? Does it have special stats? And that Signet is much better, ant wait to see the next one!

[Naedayr]

The signet bow is:

Signet Featherwood Bow
Magic Item Lore Item No Drop
Slot Range
Wt: 3.0
Size: Large
Class: None
Race: None

The combine is:
Air bow String
---Air arachnid Silk
---Air arachnid Silk
---clump of wax
Featherwood bow staff
2 wind cams
---jar of clockwork grease
---wind cam bolts
---wind cam gears
------wind metal
------cam parts mold
------file
Marked Signet

[Kronepsis]

However, I don't think you combine that all at the same time...

Think I can figure out most of it, but is this correct for the last part?

Wind Cams: (Toolbox, ? trivial)
Wind Cam Bolts?
Wind Cam Gears?
Jar of Clockwork Grease
Wind Cam Parts

Signet Featherwood Bow: (Planar Fletching Kit, ? Trivial)
Air Bow String
Featherwood bow staff
Wind Cam
Wind Cam
Marked Signet

[Demorgoth]

Off the top of my head...

Air bow String
Air arachnid Silk
Air arachnid Silk
clump of wax
(tailoring - planar/tanaan, ??? trivial)

wind cams
jar of clockwork grease
Wind cam bolts
wind cam gears
(tinkering - toolbox, ??? trivial)

Wind cam bolts & wind cam gears
wind metal
cam parts mold
file
(smithing - tanaan forge, ??? trivial)

Signet Featherwood Bow
Air Bow String
Air bow string
Featherwood bow staff
Wind Cam
Wind Cam
Marked Signet
(fletching - planar fletching kit, ??? trivial)

[Khoren Stonefall]

Something simple that a lot of people aren't aware of is that when you take an appropriate metal, a file, and a cam parts mold and smith them, you do not get an item called "so-and-so cam parts," but rather you get one each of two items, called "so-and-so cam bolts," and "so-and-so cam gears." Together, these are the two cam parts that go into every cam combine.

[Taraddar]

The signet bow is:

Signet Featherwood Bow
Magic Item Lore Item No Drop
Slot Range
Wt: 3.0
Size: Large
Class: None
Race: None

The combine is:
Air bow String
---Air arachnid Silk
---Air arachnid Silk
---clump of wax
Featherwood bow staff
2 wind cams
---jar of clockwork grease
---wind cam bolts
---wind cam gears
------wind metal
------cam parts mold
------file
Marked Signet

I would assume that each lvl is a combine. IE final combine is air bow string, Featherwood bow staff, 2 wind cams and marked signet. Air bow string is 2 air arachnis silk and clump of wax in a tayloring kit. Wind cam gears and bolts are made from wind metal, cam parts mold and file in a forge. The wind cams are then made from the jar of grease and the bolds and gears in a feltching kite. At least thats how i'd read it.

[Kronepsis]

Something simple that a lot of people aren't aware of is that when you take an appropriate metal, a file, and a cam parts mold and smith them, you do not get an item called "so-and-so cam parts," but rather you get one each of two items, called "so-and-so cam bolts," and "so-and-so cam gears." Together, these are the two cam parts that go into every cam combine.

That explains it. If you look at innovative gears/bolts, they're a little odd in comparison.

[Gorgin]

You say, 'I am skilled with a fletching knife'
[Mon Jan 20 22:44:02 2003] Aid Grimel says 'Aye I can see you are skilled with the fletching knife Gorgin. It is good too, I need to replace Councilman Taldarius's bow from Plane of Air. Combine a planing tool, two wind metal bow cams, an air arachnid silk string, a featherwood staff and the signet. I hope the bow will be up to his standards, he sure loved his old bow.'
[Mon Jan 20 22:44:05 2003] You say, 'I am a Master Chef'
[Mon Jan 20 22:44:06 2003] Aid Grimel says 'When we adventure in the Planes there is only one meal that keeps us in top fighting shape. It is called a Bristlebane's Party Platter. Unfortunately the platter is awkward and not easy to adventure with so you need to place them in this satchel. I know not how to make the Platter, a rather nice female Halfling cleric always used to deliver them to us but I heard she was crushed by a Regrua while hunting for a rare component in the Plane of Water. Brell bless her soul! Combine three of the platters and the signet inside the satchel.'
[Mon Jan 20 22:44:10 2003] You say, 'I am skilled with a needle'
[Mon Jan 20 22:44:11 2003] Aid Grimel says 'With your ability I think you would have trouble mending a pair of socks! Seek me out when you are more skilled.'

Killed Solusek tonight so just showing what he'll tell me now, the Tailoring part is because I'm a 215 tailor.

[Gorgin]

Double Post from Post Bug sorry

[EnfinitiStarr8]

DenMom, please don't take offence to this but the quest board is a little behind so I compiled as much data as I could find from the boards and Magelo. Feel free to take this for the quest session and if anyone has more info or a correction for me please let me know! Thank you all and keep up the great work 1750 club! (Or people close to it :D )

Step 5: Tailoring

Confirmed step 5 = Solusek Ro / Plan of Fire flag

Original text:

You say, 'I am skilled with the needle'
Aid Grimel says 'I appreciate the help ________. I need a new tunic made for Councilman Taldarius. Last trip through the Plane of Disease, one of those flies spit mucus on him and it dripped through his armor seams! The result was a gooey mess that ate away all the leather underneath. It was a blessing he was wearing something under all that metal! Combine three firesilk swatches, a vial of purified mana, an emblem of fire, a firestrand curing agent, a tunic pattern and the signet. Bring it to me when you have completed it.'

Aid Grimel inspects the tunic. 'Good work ________. This will definitely serve Councilman Taldarius well. Here take this! If you have skills with a fletching knife I may have a job for you to do.'

Item statistics:
Fire Undergarment Tunic
Magic item Lore No drop
wt: 10.0 Size Large
Class: War Clr Pal Shd Brd
Race: Hum Bar Eru Elf Hie Def Hef Dwf Trl Ogr Hfl Gnm Vah

Marked Signet
Magic Lore No Drop
AC: +12
WIS: +12 INT: +12 STA: +12 STR: +12
SV fire: +7 SV Cold: +7 SV Magic: +7 SV Disease: +7 SV Poison: +7
HP: +75 MANA: +75
Class: All
Race: All

Step 6: Fletching

Flag: Unknown?

Original text:

You say, 'I am skilled with a fletching knife'
Aid Grimel says 'Aye I can see you are skilled with the fletching knife _______. It is good too, I need to replace Councilman Taldarius's bow from Plane of Air. Combine a planing tool, two wind metal bow cams, an air arachnid silk string, a featherwood staff and the signet. I hope the bow will be up to his standards, he sure loved his old bow.'
Item statistics:
Signet Featherwood Bow
Magic Item Lore Item No Drop
Slot Range
Wt: 3.0
Size: Large
Class: None
Race: None

Runed Signet
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: EAR
AC: 15
STR: +15 DEX: +15 STA: +15 WIS: +15
INT: +15 AGI: +15 HP: +100 MANA: +100
SV FIRE: +10 SV DISEASE: +10 SV COLD: +10 SV MAGIC: +10
SV POISON: +10
Effect: Aura of Regeneration (Worn)
WT: 1.5 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

Effect: +3 HP/Tick

Recipes:
Air Bow String
Featherwood Bow Staff
2 Wind Cams
Marked Signet

Sub-combines:

Air Bow String:
Air Arachnid Silk
Air Arachnid Silk
Clump of Wax

Wind Cams:
Jar of clockwork grease
wind Cam Bolts
wind Cam Gears

Wing Cam Gears:
Wind Metal
Cam Parts Mold
File

[Mudcrush Durtfeet]

got a crab meat (tradable) (not a food item) off a reruga, just one drop off many kills... dunno if this is for the recipe...

[Forty]

I've picked up a variety of items from Plane of Water.

Kraken meat (non-food, stackable)
Crab meat (non-food, non-stackable)
Triloun meat (non-food, stackable)
Fish eggs (foraged stackable non-food(?))

All of which are tradeable, guess it's time to start working the different recipes to see what we get.

edit: Add Kelp to the foraged list Kelp is marked as a food and is stackable.

[Catranizi]

*edited after rereading a little more of the complete thread*

Regarding part 2 (brewnig) flags...

Myself
Not killed Bertox
Killed MM
Killed TT

Grimel would tell me my skills with brewing (180) were not enough.

Guildmate

Not killed Bertox
Killed MM
Not killed TT

Grimel would tell him to go get more knowledge of the planes.

TT necessary for the brewing part

[Kronepsis]

DenMom, please don't take offence to this but the quest board is a little behind so I compiled as much data as I could find from the boards and Magelo. Feel free to take this for the quest session and if anyone has more info or a correction for me please let me know! Thank you all and keep up the great work 1750 club! (Or people close to it :D )


The write up from my original post is a tad behind because I can no longer edit it due to the post bug. Just an FYI. I do have up to Fletching somewhat covered though.

[EnfinitiStarr8]

Crab Cracker (http://mboards.eqtraders.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2390/)
This looks like one of the items you might need for the Baking part of the quest. It says something about needing meat from regrua claws and that's how you do it, from what Rebecca says just that might make the platter, maybe the recipe plus the Signet will lead the proper item? I can only hope, I really want to see the next one! Good luck all!

[Shortyrez]

Just to add. Final combine for stage 1 was not trivial at 241 blacksmithing for me tonight. (bp + 2 black diamonds of nightmare)

[Kronepsis]

Shortyrez: Noted and changed.

Catranizi: Unfortunately, the thread this one is based off of is now completely obliterated. However, your information directly conflicts with with the information that was confirmed by multiple people in that thread (It's a tad pointless for Denmother to cut and paste multiple "It's Mithaniel Marr" or "Bertoxxulous is for smithing" proofs in a summary) so I would rather wait and see if a sizeable number of folks seem to be running into that conclusion as well before modifying a confirmed flag.

[Kellan]

The blacksmithing step's final combine is not trivial at 250 skill.

Twice-brewed Kaladim Constitutional is not trivial at 250 skill.
The brewing step's final combine is not trivial at 250 skill, and requires THREE twice-brewed Kaladim Constitutionals plus Hardened Leather Signet (not two as listed on the Aid Grimel quest posting).

Faceted Blue Diamond is not trivial at 250 skill.
Bar of Enchanted Pure Velium is not trivial at 250 skill.

Sol Ro must die.

[Caladel]

Can confim, final step of part one is NOT trivial at 250 blacksmithing. This was as of about a week or so ago.

No final step through part 5 has been trivial for me at 250s.

[Kronepsis]

All noted.

[Shaman Arriana]

For the brewing step:
I am flagged for: Torment, PoTactics, CoDecay (With Lower Decay Key), Valor, Storms, Bastion of Thunder, and have killed Agnarr.

As a 250 brewer, I talked to Grimel...and I *DID* get the brewing text and the powder/brew barrel.

Bertoxx is not required to get the text (and ingrediants) for this step. Although it would be required for the 2nd signet, since you need the first signet.

[Catranizi]

And from what you say, MM doesn't seem to be required to get step 2.

[Kronepsis]

Added it in.

It also occured to me that this might be "just need one flag from this batch of flags" thing like with the Ornate/Elemental Armors.

[Catranizi]

Not to annoy you too much Kron, but as I pointed out, MM doesn't seem to have anything to do with step 2. Tested with a few guildmate who only had TT, they get brewing alright. The 2-3 guildmates that only have MM (go stragglers) can't get brewing text. Of course all those that have both flags get brewing text.

[Naedayr]

As of yet I have no idea of any Bristlebane Party Platter recipe from any npc either text or drop. My premise is that I need to combine several PoP recipes to make a platter, but I don't know.

[Kronepsis]

Not to annoy you too much Kron, but as I pointed out, MM doesn't seem to have anything to do with step 2. Tested with a few guildmate who only had TT, they get brewing alright. The 2-3 guildmates that only have MM (go stragglers) can't get brewing text. Of course all those that have both flags get brewing text.

Sorry bout that--I'm tired. Living off of 4 hours a sleep lately. It's also possible that it got stealth-changed in a patch, which doesn't matter to the folks that have already gotten it considering that that the subsequent things don't need it. Changing.

[Niami DenMother]

I think I finally caught up with everything from here and got it onto the quest page. I've been a tad behind lately. :(

The crab cracker mentioned is actually used in a baking recipe that we already have for a bucket of crabs. It's possible that it's part of the platter as well.

As a fun side-note:


... I know not how to make the Platter, a rather nice female Halfling cleric always used to deliver them to us but I heard she was crushed by a Regrua while hunting for a rare component in the Plane of Water. Brell bless her soul! Combine three of the platters and the signet inside the satchel.'

I guess this gives an explanation why the DenMom hasn't been seen in-game in a long time ...

[Demorgoth]

Still no news on the recipie from this end. Collecting assorted junk from Water, but nothing cries out. The name appears (to me) to suggest a MTP type combine, where you take X number of other baking combined items, and then combine them to make the platter.

Has anyone with the required flags and skill to get the quest, tried any halfling baking vendors, maybe in rivervale, maybe elsewhere? How about cleric guilds all over? The clues are in there, so assuming it's working, we just have to solve them

Remember the JCing step?

I have no idea how the pure bars are made. You may want to seek the help of the ice dwarves.'
Trial and error hailing NPCs. OK, so JC + Ice + Dorfs = Meg is a fairly safe bet, but the idea is the same. We're given a clue and expected to go hailing everything until 1 person finds and posts the quest. It's entirely possible someone already knows the recipie, and is just farming some rare drop.

Did Meg respond to everyone who asked about the velium, or only people with the right flags/tradeskills? If so, I'll make a few mules and go hailing cleric guilds and halfers across Norrath.

[Molasar]

Ok, last night i failed for my first time part of the quest. Tailoring, Im 250 and +5% mod and 305 str/stam/dex 355 wis and i still failed the 2 combines i had enough materials for. No other part did i fail on prior to tailoring part. Im currious, what has been other peoples success rate on this. I also am currious about the air bow success. I currently only have staff/silk and need metal for cams but im dreading failing that too. Yes im 250 in all and +5% mods in all. Planing to try again later today when people log on with saps!

[Gorgin]

I spent 3-4 hours yesterday hailing every person in PoK, Shadowhaven, Rivervale and Misty Thicket and asking them What Bristlebane's Party Platter, What Regurga, What Recipe, What nice female halfling cleric and came up with exactly 0 replies regarding the recipe. It's entirely possible I missed something or missed a key phrase but I'm out of ideas.

[Khoren Stonefall]

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