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Paerien
10-28-2008, 11:05 AM
Ok, here's my dumb question of the day (I'm only allowed one per day, so using it wisely):

If I'm level 80, and 300 +15% for all tradeskills, can I make (obviously can't equip) Stalwart weapons/symbols?

Ok, here's another dumb question, and I'm borrowing from tomorrow's allotment:

What are the symbols for the Stalwart weapons called? Will I see them in my JC kit? Are the combines for weapons/symbols similar to Elegant weapons/symbols?

Thanks, and it looks like I've actually used up all my questions for the rest of the week! ;)

I finally got mine made last night! Made a longsword and mace + augs. Is SO much better than what I was using before, but I don't raid, really at all, so I'm super pleased!

Twistagain
10-28-2008, 01:51 PM
I assume that you got them made per your edit...but just in case:

I wrote up an explanation of the aug names in this post (http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq/showthread.php?t=32701).

They should show in your jewelry kit once you've bought and scribed the appropriate scrolls. They are for sale in PoK from the jewelry vendors outside the east tradeskill building (where the brew barrels are.)

Paerien
10-28-2008, 02:19 PM
I assume that you got them made per your edit...but just in case:

I wrote up an explanation of the aug names in this post (http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq/showthread.php?t=32701).

They should show in your jewelry kit once you've bought and scribed the appropriate scrolls. They are for sale in PoK from the jewelry vendors outside the east tradeskill building (where the brew barrels are.)

Thanks a bunch. I've made the Sublime weapon augs, yep. I just didn't know that "Venerable" was the new level of symbols. Just one more question (because I can't check - at work atm): Can I make these even tho I'm not 81? I'm assuming I can, but just can't equip...

Thanks!

Twistagain
10-28-2008, 02:33 PM
Good question. I would THINK so, as I have them in my kit...and was able to buy the scrolls (previously, if you didn't meet requirements, the scrolls weren't visible.) However, I am still 80...so I'm not sure.

Paerien
10-28-2008, 02:41 PM
Well, I'm gonna give it a try tonight. I know every server is different, but I wonder how these weapon/symbols are selling? Anyone know? I might make a couple and throw them on my trader. I really am happy with my Elegant/Sublimes, but as I mentioned earlier, I'm not extremely well-geared. :cry:

Luvimt
10-28-2008, 02:47 PM
Well, I'm gonna give it a try tonight. I know every server is different, but I wonder how these weapon/symbols are selling? Anyone know? I might make a couple and throw them on my trader. I really am happy with my Elegant/Sublimes, but as I mentioned earlier, I'm not extremely well-geared. :cry:

I havent made any stalwart or venerable yet (prices too high for ingredients) but I have had a few elegant, inured and elaborate weapons plus some sublime, eminent and exalted augs on my trader and have sold absolutely none.
GL If you make any for selling.

Twistagain
10-28-2008, 03:06 PM
I've made some weapons and augs for guildies. I also made 2 sublime augs (hate and integrity, both nimble) and put them up. Not a bite in several days. I'm the only person selling any. I would make some weapons to put up with them, but I am currently out of components and VERY low on cash.

Paerien
10-28-2008, 03:16 PM
I havent made any stalwart or venerable yet (prices too high for ingredients) but I have had a few elegant, inured and elaborate weapons plus some sublime, eminent and exalted augs on my trader and have sold absolutely none.
GL If you make any for selling.

That's too bad. I did very well with the armor/symbols, but I only made those to-order, as requested. But I haven't heard a lot of buzz around the market for selling these new weapons/symbols. I like mine, that's all I can say! :) I would imagine that only Elaborate/Sublime or Stalwart/Venerable would sell, if any... :cry:

KyrosKrane
10-28-2008, 03:50 PM
I suspect you're going to have to do a lot of marketing, and take the time to explain these weapons to any potential customers. Non-tradeskilling players barely manage to juggle the idea of cultural armor; a few wouldn't get it at all if I didn't flatly tell them, "THIS is the *only* combination you can wear." Players now have a much wider choice of augs for these weapons, and they might just dismiss the weapons outright after seeing just the base mold (not realizing it takes an aug to complete it). It will take a bit of explaining and marketing before you get people to buy them. This early in the expansion, they won't sell if you just silently stick them on a trader.

Having said all that, there's still the question of how the complete weapons compare to the widely-available group weapons from the last expansion or two.

Luvimt
10-29-2008, 03:20 PM
Well AFAIK the only tradeable hate proc weapon is still the BoC at 15:20 dmg:dly. An elegant LS with hate proc symbol (forget which level I scribbled down) is 28(+3):21.
I don't think I'll make any more as I am reluctant to leave a trader up for very long as it's bad for the environment (and my electric bill) but I will advertise next time I start trader up.

xeni
10-29-2008, 05:48 PM
in wich zone you find ingredient like stalwart haft and mold ? pls ?

Luvimt
10-29-2008, 07:28 PM
The hafts and molds are tradeskilled via fletching and pottery respectively.

jacknut
11-12-2008, 01:39 AM
so i made some augs already. but i am totaly confused on a couple things on the weapons. firstly , where do we buy the 'name' weapons grade ore at? and secondly am completely lost on making the short spear version of stalwart weapon. like i'm not sure what all parts it requires, reading thru the book lost me, not sure about hafts needed hilts etc. if anyone knows please take a moment and post the info. i would be very grateful.

Zaltak
11-12-2008, 08:50 AM
I think any weapon that isn't tailor made and doesn't need some kind of hilt mold needs hafts,handles etc.You make these with bowstaffs and silk ,fletching tools and differant amounts of knotted rope?

Roanne
11-12-2008, 05:46 PM
so i made some augs already. but i am totaly confused on a couple things on the weapons. firstly , where do we buy the 'name' weapons grade ore at? and secondly am completely lost on making the short spear version of stalwart weapon. like i'm not sure what all parts it requires, reading thru the book lost me, not sure about hafts needed hilts etc. if anyone knows please take a moment and post the info. i would be very grateful.

The info on the subcombines is found in the books describing the weapons. I dont know the recipes off the top of my head to tel you here but I remember reading it there.

The ore is sold by the smithing vendor in PoK. Again I don't recall the name but the one who gives the unrefined ore task for restocking.

jacknut
11-12-2008, 10:10 PM
so i found the ore salesman. i made my combines for the molds i need etc. went over to the forge in the guild hall and tried to finish my stalwart short spear. when i attempted to combine stuff following directions in the weapon making books. i got dnc's. i'm not sure if i am following the book properly. i tried several different ways that i could think of, and all resulted in DNC's. hopefully i get this figured out.

Aldier
11-13-2008, 07:51 AM
so i found the ore salesman. i made my combines for the molds i need etc. went over to the forge in the guild hall and tried to finish my stalwart short spear. when i attempted to combine stuff following directions in the weapon making books. i got dnc's. i'm not sure if i am following the book properly. i tried several different ways that i could think of, and all resulted in DNC's. hopefully i get this figured out.

Were you attempting to experiment? Was it a DNC or a "it seems right but you need to know something more" error?

jacknut
11-13-2008, 01:24 PM
i was experimenting and yes it was can not combine these items. there no message you need to know more. i am a gm smith with 15% mod and all the aa's. i am not sure if maybe cannot combine in guild hall forge or maybe i was using a wrong combination of items. once i log in today i will try again. i spent an hour or so going over the complete guide last night and writing down the combination as i see it using that guide, so we will see. unfortunately i don't know anyone on prexus i can ask, because i have not seen or heard of anyone making the cultural weapons on prexus.

Gaze
11-13-2008, 02:55 PM
editted to remove as redundant... Browser/operator

jacknut
11-13-2008, 05:10 PM
got it made not sure what problem was yesterday.