Aid Grimel Quest

[Niami DenMother]

The old thread regarding the multi-GM tradeskill quest for Aid Grimel is corrupted, and fresh responses are not displaying properly.

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The writeup on thye main EQTC site can be found at http://www.eqtraders.com/quests/pop_aid_grimel.htm

Please feel free to post further additions, clarifications and questions regarding this topic in this thread.

[Kellan]

Has anyone tried asking the indifferent mobs in Plane of Water about Bristlebane's Party Platter? I will try it as soon as I can, but people keep bothering me to go kill stuff for some reason...

[Iustus]

None of the finish (hand-in) resposese were quoted before, so I thought I would go ahead and most everything.


You say, 'i am well versed in the art of smithing'
Aid Grimel says 'Thank you for offering to help Iustus. Take this breastplate and clean it with a diluted acid wash to get all of the debris out of it. Brew the wash by combining acid and a three celestial essence's. Once the armor is cleaned, coat it with hurricane temper. Finally add two black diamonds of nightmare to the breastplate. This should provide adequate protection for our next journey.'

(hand in breastplate)


Aid Grimel smiles. 'What a wonderful job! Councilman Taldarius shall wear this on our next adventure, I am sure he will find it more protective than his old one. Take this signet as a token of my gratitude. If you are not too busy I have another task, do you have any brewing skill?'

You say, 'i have skill in brewing'

Aid Grimel says 'I bet you could make a wicked brew! However I am forced to drink a refreshing drink while out adventuring. I do have this powder that will give the best drinks quite a bite though. Mix the powder in with two Kaladim Constitutionals and a flask of pure water. If you need more dust just ask for it! Put three twice brewed constitutionals and the signet in this drink barrel. As hard as drink barrels are to get these days, you need to return it to me along with the drink you create with it'

Note, recepie is three twice brewed constitutionals, not two as listed in summary.

(Hand in both Portable Drink and the Portable Brew Barrel.)


Aid Grimel gulps down a Twice Brewed Kaladim Constitutional and Burps loudly! 'Ahhhh that was refreshing! That should hold me over for quite some time. I see you are quite deft of hand, perhaps you would care to put your jewel craft skills to the test?'

You say, 'i would like to put my jewelcraft skills to the test'

Aid Grimel says 'My hand was crushed when I used it to deflect a blow from a War Boar that was headed towards Taldarius's back. For some time afterwards my hand was crippled but Brell saw to it I regained full use of it. The ring I used to wear was damaged beyond repair and my hand was never steady enough to etch a new one. If you would make me a new one by combing a mounted blue diamond, the etching dust and etching tools in a jewelry kit. Then take the faceted gem and combine it with a bar of pure enchanted velium and my signet. I have no idea how the pure bars are made. You may want to seek the help of the ice dwarves.'

(Hand in ring).


Aid Grimel grins. 'Quite a nice ring you have made for me Iustus. May it serve me as well as my old ring. Here take this signet. We seem to be finishing the tasks on my list at a nice pace. Tell me when you are ready to use some clay.'

You say, 'i am ready to use some clay'

Aid Grimel says 'On our last tome gathering expedition a stray arrow in the Plane of War struck our urn filled with sacred water. It was quite a waste of sacred water! Three large enchanted blocks of clay, three lacquered opals, a vial of purified mana, a ceramic lining, sculpting tools and the urn pattern should make an unfired urn. The urn is so large you will need to fire it with three divine crystalline glazes. Once you have the urn it needs to be filled with three sacred waters and the signet as a cap.'

(Hand in Filled Sacred Urn).


Aid Grimel says 'Outstanding work Iustus! I can feel the purity of the water radiating through the clay. Are ye skilled with the needle as well as an accomplished potter?'

You say, 'i am skilled with the needle'

Aid Grimel says 'I appreciate the help Iustus. I need a new tunic made for Councilman Taldarius. Last trip through the Plane of Disease, one of those flies spit mucus on him and it dripped through his armor seams! The result was a gooey mess that ate away all the leather underneath. It was a blessing he was wearing something under all that metal! Combine three firesilk swatches, a vial of purified mana, an emblem of fire, a firestrand curing agent, a tunic pattern and the signet. Bring it to me when you have completed it.'

Note, I would not quite call this one 'simple'. The Obsidianwood saps are quite a rare drop.

(Hand in Fire Undergarment Tunic)


Aid Grimel inspects the tunic. 'Good work Iustus. This will definitely serve Councilman Taldarius well. Here take this! If you have skills with a fletching knife I may have a job for you to do.'

You say, 'i am skilled with a fletching knife'

Aid Grimel says 'Aye I can see you are skilled with the fletching knife Iustus. It is good too, I need to replace Councilman Taldarius's bow from Plane of Air. Combine a planing tool, two wind metal bow cams, an air arachnid silk string, a featherwood staff and the signet. I hope the bow will be up to his standards, he sure loved his old bow.'


I am still trying to get the silks from air to finish the next part.

Hope this helps.

-I

[Shortyrez]

Completed second part just now. Wanted to add a few corrections:

(1) It's Fermenting DUST not powder you get from Aid Grimel.
(2) Twce Brewed Kaladim Constitutional can only be made in a planar brew barrel.
(3) It takes THREE Twice Brewed Kaladim Constitutionals for the final combine, not two.

Hope this helps. Working on getting caught up with my Saryrn flag before next part then I get to finish tailoring /cry

[EnfinitiStarr8]

Not of major help but I wanted to add I made a level one Dwarf Clreic and used the PoP books to get to Thurg. Tried getting the recipe for a bar of Pure Velium and she told me I have to prove myself to there cause. So this means that old world NPCs now also check for flags/items or whatever the PoP ones check for in order to give the quest. I also made a levl one Halfling Cleric and ran around after the patch hailing ever NPC in Rivervale I could find spamming the whole zone with hot keys saying things like:

"How do you make a Bristlebane Party Plater? How do you make a Party Plater? How do you make a Plater? What Plane of Water? Who is Aid Grimel? Who is Grimel? I am here to help Aid Grimel. I am here to help Grimel."
The only NPC in the zone who even said anything about prioving myself to a cause was one of the bar keeps on the second floor of the Fool's Gold Tavern and I checked Alla, it says he's part of another newbe quest so I dont think it's him. I went sweimming in the water of Rivervale looking for a new "Swimming Halfling" but only found a Lore bag at the bottom of the lake, could not find what it is for. I dont know if this helps anything, but that what I can add.

[Lilosh]

The bag at the bottom of the lake is for a rogue newbie quest.


Nothing to do with PoP. :-(


-Lilosh

[Forty]

In thinking what a Party platter means, to me anyway, I think of various meats, Veggies (carrots) and a dip with maybe some bread and/or cheese. Not sure a dip would apply here. At this point I want to try various meats from Water as well as various "cooked" meats both from Water and outside Water. The only clues I get from the text is that the rare component is found in Water, to me this suggests the rest of the components come outside Water. The fact that a Halfling was mentioned also might suggest the rare component is foraged. I was handed some foraged shrimp (Large Brine Shrimp stackable/hearty meal to be exact) last night. Now to get time to start trying the various combos.

I've seen people post that they have hailed NPC's from everywhere but Froststone (in CC). I'm dubious there and not sure I would get a response. Might be worth a try anyway..../shrug

[Dragoron]

From the quest text off of the main site:


..but I heard she was crushed by a Regrua while hunting for a rare component...

From reading just this I would suggest that everyone who can tries to kill some Regruas to see if they can find some sort of book or note from the poor little cleric. If none of them drop something of that sort, another possibility would be a ground spawn in the area that they inhabit.

[Lilosh]

The fact that a Halfling was mentioned also might suggest the rare component is foraged.


The halfling cleric that Aid Grimel mentioned would not be able to forage.


-Lilosh

[Forty]

Yep, prolly right on the forage thing. It was the only thing I could think of that a single cleric *might* be able to do that deep in the zone. Certainly not gonna kill anything solo.

Enough people have killed the area with the Regrua that I would have thought someone would have looted something like a book but who know's maybe it's just that rare. I have looted two waterlogged sashes. Maybe that's the common. Only area that my guild hasn't really been is back towards the final boss, so maybe there's something back there.

Ground spawn also sounds good, gonna make sure I pay more attention to the floor.

[Kronepsis]

<a name = "Guide"></a>Aid Grimel's Tradeskill Quests.

After Hailing Aid Grimel, he will mention that he needs someone willing to help him who is a master of trades AND has travelled the planes. In other words, you will need to meet a certain minimum skill level <b>(without any tradeskill improving devices like the various Geerlok tools being taken into account)</b> in a tradeskill AND have been flagged for a certain plane or two for each tradeskill quest he gives you. If you do not have the appropriate planar flag yet, he will reply to you with:

<blockquote>
Aid Grimel says 'I am sorry but one who has such limited knowledge of the Planes would not be able to assist me.' </blockquote>

If your skill does not meet the requirement, he will insult your ability in the skill. The flag has priority over skill level.

Once you start combining the signet in recipes, keep in mind that you <b>WILL</b> get the signet back if the combine fails. So don't stress out (as much) about failed combines.

<b>This assumes that all combines are done in either a Planar kit of some sort (i.e. Planar Fletching Kit, Planar Sewing Kit, etc) or in a stationary container IN the Plane of Knowledge. Thus if something does not combine in a normal container, try a planar one or a container in the Plane of Knowledge instead. </b>

Also, flags, unless said otherwise, are flags you get from *killing* the god.

MQs: ONLY the Smithing part is MQable. And since the requirement is checked again on the LAST STEP, if you do not meet the requirements then, you will STILL need to get Smithing to 220, unmodified.
<hr>

<b><i>Part 1: Smithing. </i></b>
<b>Skill Requirement:</b> 220 Smithing.

<b>Flag Requirement:</b> Bertoxxulous AND rescuing Mylik and Adier
Your Flag MUST say - Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.

Grimel will hand you a breastplate, ask that you wash it, and then coat with a temper and add two Black Diamonds of Nightmares to it. Keep in mind that if you fail to combine the breastplate, you WILL lose it.

Original text:

<blockquote>
You say, 'I am well versed in the art of smithing'
Aid Grimel says 'Thank you for offering to help Bakara. Take this breastplate and clean it with a diluted acid wash to get all of the debris out of it. Brew the wash by combining acid and a three celestial essence's. Once the armor is cleaned, coat it with hurricane temper. Finally add two black diamonds of nightmare to the breastplate. This should provide adequate protection for our next journey.' </blockquote>

Turn in the finished Breastplate for the following text and a Leather Signet. <b>Do not throw away the Leather Signet. </b>

<blockquote>Aid Grimel smiles. 'What a wonderful job! Councilman Taldarius shall wear this on our next adventure, I am sure he will find it more protective than his old one. Take this signet as a token of my gratitude. If you are not too busy I have another task, do you have any brewing skill?' </blockquote>


Item statistics:

<b>Leather Signet</b>
Slot: Ear
AC: 2
STR +2 STA +2 WIS +2 INT +2
WT: 0.1 Size: Tiny
Race: All
Class: All

Items given to you by Grimel:
Filthy Breastplate

<u>Recipes</u>

<b><u>Acid Wash</u>: (Brew barrel, Trivial &lt;= 151)</b>
<blockquote>Jar of Acid
Celestial Essence
Celestial Essence
Celestial Essence
</blockquote>
<b><u>Cleansed Breastplate</u>: (Forge, Trivial = 227)</b>
<blockquote>Acid Wash
Filthy Breastplate
</blockquote>
<b><u>Tempered Breastplate</u>: (Forge, Trivial = 231)</b>
<blockquote>Cleansed Breastplate
Hurricane Temper
</blockquote>
<b><u>Breastplate decorating</u>: (Forge, Trivial > 250) </b>
<blockquote>(Coated) Breastplate
Black Diamond of Nightmares
Black Diamond of Nightmares
</blockquote>
<hr>

<b><i>Part 2: Brewing.</i></b>
<b>Skill Requirement</b>: Between 218 Brewing and 224 Brewing.

<b>Flag Requirement</b>: Terris Thule.
Your Flag MUST say - Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.

Grimel will give you a portable Brew Barrel with 4 slots in it, as well as 1 Fermenting Dust. You will need to ask him twice for more Fermenting Dust, and will be making a Portable Drink.

Original text:
<blockquote>
You say, 'I have skill in brewing'
Aid Grimel says 'I bet you could make a wicked brew! However I am forced to drink a refreshing drink while out adventuring. I do have this powder that will give the best drinks quite a bite though. Mix the powder in with two Kaladim Constitutionals and a flask of pure water. If you need more dust just ask for it! Put three twice brewed constitutionals and the signet in this drink barrel. As hard as drink barrels are to get these days, you need to return it to me along with the drink you create with it'
</blockquote>

(Aside: And yes, you CAN combine normal brewing combines in it! Only up to 4 slots though. It is unknown if this was intended or not.)

Turn in the Portable Drink and Portable Brew Barrel to receive the following text and a Clay Signet.

<blockquote>
Aid Grimel gulps down a Twice Brewed Kaladim Constitutional and Burps loudly! 'Ahhhh that was refreshing! That should hold me over for quite some time. I see you are quite deft of hand, perhaps you would care to put your jewel craft skills to the test?'
</blockquote>

Item statistics:

<b>Clay Signet</b>
Slot: Ear
AC: 4
STR +4 STA +4 WIS +4 INT +4
WT: 0.1 Size: Tiny
Race: All
Class: All

Items given to you by Grimel:
Portable Brew Barrel
Fermenting Dust

<u>Recipes</u>

<b><u>Purified Water</u>: (Brew Barrel, trivial &lt;=117)</b>
<blockquote>Celestial Essence
Flask of Water
Flask of Water
</blockquote>
<b><u>Twice Brewed Constitutional</u>: (Brew Barrel, trivial >250) </b>
<blockquote>Kaladim Constitutional
Kaladim Constitutional
Purified Water
Fermenting Powder
</blockquote>
<b><u>Portable Drink</u>: (Portable Brew Barrel, No trivial given)</b>
<blockquote>Twice Brewed Constitutional
Twice Brewed Constitutional
Twice Brewed Constitutional
Leather Signet (from Part 1)
</blockquote>
<hr>

<b><i>Part 3: Jewelcraft.</b></i>

<b>Skill requirement</b>: Between 177 skill and 225 Jewelcraft skill. (220 Raw skill assumed)

<b>Flag requirement</b>: Saryrn.
Your Flag MUST say - Tylis has been removed from his agony.

At this point, Grimel will give you Etching Dust and ask that you make him a new ring from the previous signet. You will need to head to Velious to gather some velium bars that are needed, and will also need to head to Eastern Wastes, locate Tain Hammerfrost, and do his quest in order to procure a Coldain Smithy Hammer. After combining, you will get a rather tempting Velium Blue Diamond Ring with Enduring Breath on it to hand in--and NOT have returned--for a Wooden Signet and some experience.

Original text:

<blockquote>
You say, 'I would like to put my jewel craft skills to the test.'
Aid Grimel says 'My hand was crushed when I used it to deflect a blow from a War Boar that was headed towards Taldarius's back. For some time afterwards my hand was crippled but Brell saw to it I regained full use of it. The ring I used to wear was damaged beyond repair and my hand was never steady enough to etch a new one. If you would make me a new one by combing a mounted blue diamond, the etching dust and etching tools in a jewelry kit. Then take the faceted gem and combine it with a bar of pure enchanted velium and my signet. I have no idea how the pure bars are made. You may want to seek the help of the ice dwarves.'
</blockquote>


Going to Velious and in Thurgadin, hail Meg Tucker with the appropriate trigger text for a clarifying response.

<blockquote>
You say, 'what bar of pure enchanted velium'
Meg Tucter says 'Wow that is an odd request Yalum. Very rarely do we make an item that requires a pure bar of metal. Pure enchanted velium bars are made by combing three enchanted velium bars in a forge along with a coldain velium temper, pure water and a Coldain smithy hammer. Tis quite expensive but it enables the crafter to obtain pure working materials.'
</blockquote>


Meg also gives you the Etching tools.

<blockquote>
You say, 'I need a set of Etching Tools'
Meg Tucter says 'Oh, really? There are not many that work in faceting gems. I am surprised to see your interest. You can have this old set of mine. If you are working with Royal Velium and want to give it to someone else, you can use these etching tools and your jewelers kit to engrave the piece for them. Be careful though, because once the armor is engraved you cannot remove it and it will be useless to the Dain. There is no need to return the tools, Talem recently made me a new sturdy set. Brell bless him.'
</blockquote>

And when you finally hand in the ring, the text Grimel gives is:

<blockquote>
Aid Grimel grins. 'Quite a nice ring you have made for me Iustus. May it serve me as well as my old ring. Here take this signet. We seem to be finishing the tasks on my list at a nice pace. Tell me when you are ready to use some clay.'
</blockquote>

Item statisitics:

<b>Velium Blue Diamond Ring </b>
Magic Lore No Drop
Slot: Finger
AC: 10
HP: +65 Mana: +65
Save versus all +5
Effect: Enduring Breath
Wt: 0.1 Size: Tiny
All/All

<b>Wooden Signet </b>
Magic Lore No Drop
Slot: Ear
AC: 6
Str: +6 Sta: +6 Wis: +6 Int: +6 HP: +20 Mana: +20
Wt 1.5 Size: Tiny
All/All


Items given to you by Grimel:
Etching Dust

Items given to you by Meg:
Etching Tools

<u>Recipes</u>

<b><u>Purified Water</u>: (Brew Barrel, trivial &lt;=117) </b>
<blockquote>Celestial Essence
Flask of Water
Flask of Water
</blockquote>
<b><u>Mounted Blue Diamond</u>: (Jewelry Kit, trivial &lt;=105)</b>
<blockquote>Bar of Velium
Bar of Velium
Blue Diamond
</blockquote>
<b><u>Faceted Blue Diamond</u>: (Planar Jewelry Kit, trivial > 250) </b>
<blockquote>Mounted Blue Diamond
Etching Tools
Etching Dust
</blockquote>
<b><u>Bar of Enchanted Pure Velium</u>: (Forge, trivial > 250) </b>
<blockquote>Enchanted Bar of Velium
Enchanted Bar of Velium
Enchanted Bar of Velium
Purified Water
Coldain Velium Temper
Coldain Smithy Hammer
</blockquote>
<b><u>Velium Blue Diamond Ring</u>: (Planar Jewelry Kit, trivial > 250) </b>
<blockquote>Faceted Blue Diamond
Clay Signet
Bar of Enchanted Pure Velium
</blockquote>
<hr>

<b><i>Part 4: Pottery.</i></b>

<b>Skill requirement</b>: Between 200 and 250 Pottery. (220 Pottery assumed.)

<b>Flag requirement</b>: Pack of Notes from Vallon Zek + (possibly Agnarr, Saryrn and/or Mithaniel Marr, not sure)

Now Grimel will give you an urn pattern and ask you to make a Sacred Urn and fill it up with Sacred Water--to replace one that was destroyed in the Plane of War--and to cap it with your signet from the Jewelcrafting part of the quest. Pretty straightforward. After making the, start heading over to the Plane of Valor and camping "the knights in the tents in Valor" as Khoren puts it for Sacred Water. After filling up the Urn with Water and your signet, combine for the Filled Sacred Urn and turn it in for the REALLY promising Metal Signet.

Original text:

<blockquote>
You say, 'I am ready to use some clay.'
Aid Grimel says 'On our last tome gathering expedition a stray arrow in the Plane of War struck our urn filled with sacred water. It was quite a waste of sacred water! Three large enchanted blocks of clay, three lacquered opals, a vial of purified mana, a ceramic lining, sculpting tools and the urn pattern should make an unfired urn. The urn is so large you will need to fire it with three divine crystalline glazes. Once you have the urn it needs to be filled with three sacred waters and the signet as a cap.'
</blockquote>

Turn in text:

<blockquote>Aid Grimel says 'Outstanding work Iustus! I can feel the purity of the water radiating through the clay. Are ye skilled with the needle as well as an accomplished potter?' </blockquote>

Item statistics:

<b>Urn Pattern</b>
NO DROP
WT: 0.1 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

<b>Sacred Urn </b>
Container
LORE ITEM NO DROP
WT: 0.4, Weight Reduction: 0%
Capacity: 4, Size Capacity: LARGE

<b>Sacred Water </b>
NO DROP
This is a refreshing drink.
WT: 0.4, Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

<b>Filled Sacred Urn </b>
MAGIC LORE NO DROP
WT: 0.1, Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

<b>Metal Signet </b>
Slot: EAR
AC: 8
STR: +8, STA: +8, WIS: +8, INT: +8, HP: +35, Mana: +35
SV FIRE: +3, SV DISEASE: +3, SV COLD: +3, SV MAGIC +3, SV POISON: +3
WT: 1.5, Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

Items given to you by Grimel:
Urn Pattern

<u>Recipes</u>

<b><u>Lacquered Opal</u>: (Jewelry Kit, trivial = 120) </b>
<blockquote>Opal
Jar of Lacquer
</blockquote>
<b><u>Unfired Ceramic Lining</u>: (Pottery Wheel, trivial = 36)</b>
<blockquote>Small Block of Clay
Ceramic Lining Sketch
Flask of Water
</blockquote>
<b><u>Ceramic Lining</u>: (Kiln, trivial = negligible)</b>
<blockquote>Unfired Ceramic Lining
Quality Firing Sheet </blockquote>

<b><u>Unfired Sacred Urn</u>: (Tanaan Pottery Wheel, trivial > 250)</b>
<blockquote>Lacquered Opal
Lacquered Opal
Lacquered Opal
Large Block of Enchanted Clay
Large Block of Enchanted Clay
Large Block of Enchanted Clay
Sculpting Tools
Vial of Purified Mana
Ceramic Lining
Urn Pattern </blockquote>

<b><u>Sacred Urn</u>: (Tanaan Kiln, Trivial > 250) </b>
<blockquote>Unfired Sacred Urn
Divine Crystalline Glaze
Divine Crystalline Glaze
Divine Crystalline Glaze </blockquote>

<b><u>Filled Sacred Urn</u>: (Sacred Urn, no known skill check)</b>
<blockquote>Sacred Water
Sacred Water
Sacred Water
Wooden Signet</blockquote>


<hr>

<b><i>Part 5: Tailoring.</i></b>

<b>Skill requirement:</b> &lt; 250 Tailoring

<b>Flag requirement:</b> Solusek Ro / Plane of Fire
Your Flag MUST say - The true route to the Plane of Fire is now clear in your mind.

After the grueling work of finding different components, the item Grimel wants you to make in Tailoring...is surprisingly simple--with the only risky step being the final combine. All it is essentially is a Robe of Eternal Fire with two extra, (relatively) easy to get components: A Vial of Purified Mana and your previous Signet. However, the success rate on the robe may drive you nuts. ;)

Original text:

<blockquote>You say, 'I am skilled with the needle'
Aid Grimel says 'I appreciate the help Demorgoth. I need a new tunic made for Councilman Taldarius. Last trip through the Plane of Disease, one of those flies spit mucus on him and it dripped through his armor seams! The result was a gooey mess that ate away all the leather underneath. It was a blessing he was wearing something under all that metal! Combine three firesilk swatches, a vial of purified mana, an emblem of fire, a firestrand curing agent, a tunic pattern and the signet. Bring it to me when you have completed it.' </blockquote>

Turn in text:
<blockquote>Aid Grimel inspects the tunic. 'Good work Iustus. This will definitely serve Councilman Taldarius well. Here take this! If you have skills with a fletching knife I may have a job for you to do.'
</blockquote>

Item Statistics:

<b>Fire Undergarment Tunic </b>
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
WT:10.0
SIZE: LARGE
CLASS: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD
RACE: HUM BAR ERU ELF HIE DEF HEF DWF TRL OGR HFL GNM VAH

<b>Marked Signet </b>
SLOT: EAR
AC: 12
STR: +12 STA: +12 WIS: +12 HP: +75 Mana: +75 SV FIRE: +7, SV DISEASE: +7, SV COLD: +7, SV MAGIC +7, SV POISON: +7
WT: 1.5
SIZE: TINY
CLASS: ALL
RACE: ALL

<u>Recipes</u>

<b><u>Firesilk Swatch:</u> (Loom/Planar Sewing Kit, Trivial = ?)</b>
<blockquote>Fire Arachnid Silk
Fire Arachnid Silk</blockquote>

<b><u>Emblem of Fire:</u> (Planar Jeweler's Kit, Trivial > 250) </b>
<blockquote>Blank Emblem
Red Diamond of Fire
Enchanted Bar of Molten Ore</blockquote>

<b><u>Firestrand Curing Agent:</u> (Brew Barrel, Trivial = ?) </b>
<blockquote>Obsidianwood Sap
Obsidianwood Sap
Obsidianwood Sap
Vial of Purified Mana </blockquote>

<b><u>Fire Undergarment Tunic:</u> (Loom, Trivial = ?)</b>
<blockquote>Firesilk Swatch
Firesilk Swatch
Firesilk Swatch
Vial of Purified Mana
Emblem of Fire
Firestrand Curing Agent
Tunic Pattern
Metal Signet </blockquote>


<hr>

<b><i>Part 6: Fletching.</i></b>

<b>Skill Requirement:</b> (220 Fletching assumed).

<b>Flag Requirement:</b> Rallos Zek
Your Flag MUST say - The parchment of Rallos are scribed in a language you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth you have already destroyed. (Or something roughly to that extent)

Now that the evil robe is done, on to Fletching! If you don't know a tinkerer, this step <b>will</b> be even more annoying. Otherwise it is as difficult as making a Featherwood Compound Bow.

Original text:

<blockquote>
You say, 'I am skilled with a fletching knife'
Aid Grimel says 'Aye I can see you are skilled with the fletching knife Gorgin. It is good too, I need to replace Councilman Taldarius's bow from Plane of Air. Combine a planing tool, two wind metal bow cams, an air arachnid silk string, a featherwood staff and the signet. I hope the bow will be up to his standards, he sure loved his old bow.'
</blockquote>

Turn in text:
<blockquote>
Aid Grimel says 'Masterful work Iustus! I can see your skill in the curves of the bow. Take this as a sign of my respect for your skill. The last item I need before we can be off is some food. I warn you this will truly test your skills. Do you fancy yourself a master chef?'
</blockquote>

Item Statistics:

<b>Runed Signet </b>
Magic Item Lore Item No Drop
SLOT: EAR
AC: 15
STR: 15 DEX: 15 STA: 15 WIS:15 INT: 15 AGI: 15
HP: +100 MANA: +100
SV FIRE: +10 SV DISEASE: +10 SV COLD: +10 SV MAGIC: +10 SV POISON: +10
Effect: Aura of Regeneration (Worn)
Class: All
Race: All

<b>Signet Featherwood Bow </b>
Magic Item Lore Item No Drop
SLOT: Range
WT: 3.0
SIZE: LARGE
CLASS: NONE
RACE: NONE


<u>Recipes</u>

<b><u>Air Bow String:</u> (Planar Sewing Kit/Loom, ? Trivial) </b>
<blockquote>Air Arachnid Silk
Air Arachnid Silk
Clump of Wax </blockquote>

<b><u>Wind Cam Bolts and Wind Cam Gears:</u> (Forge, ? trivial) </b>
<blockquote>Wind Metal
Cam Parts mold
File </blockquote>

<b><u>Jar of Clockwork Grease (Small Clay Jar, ? trivial)</u> -- unknown skill check: </b>
<blockquote>Clockwork Grease
Clockwork Grease </blockquote>

<b><u>Wind Cams:</u> (Toolbox, ? trivial)</b>
<blockquote>Wind Cam Bolt
Wind Cam Gear
Jar of Clockwork Grease </blockquote>

<b><u>Signet Featherwood Bow:</u> (Planar Fletching Kit, ? Trivial)</b>
<blockquote>Air Bow String
Featherwood bow staff
Wind Cam
Wind Cam
Marked Signet
Planing Tool</blockquote>

<hr>

<b><i>Part 7: Baking</i></b>

<b>Skill requirement:</b> ? Baking (220 Baking assumed).

<b>Flag requirement:</b> Rallos Zek
Your Flag MUST say - The parchment of Rallos are scribed in a language you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth you have already destroyed.

Finally, the last monster. Baking. This was one of the most annoying recipes for folks to figure out. So when you make it, thank the people who spent the months combining and researching and just smashing their heads against their monitors figuring it out for you (before it was finally added to the game). Combine three of the Bristlebane Party Platters and your signet in the Satchel he gives you.

Original Text:

<blockquote>You say, 'I am a Master Chef'
Aid Grimel says 'When we adventure in the Planes there is only one meal that keeps us in top fighting shape. It is called a Bristlebane's Party Platter. Unfortunately the platter is awkward and not easy to adventure with so you need to place them in this satchel. I know not how to make the Platter, a rather nice female Halfling cleric always used to deliver them to us but I heard she was crushed by a Regrua while hunting for a rare component in the Plane of Water. Brell bless her soul! Combine three of the platters and the signet inside the satchel.'
</blockquote>

Turn in text:

<blockquote>Aid Grimel says 'Truly amazing! Now the Councilman and I can be off on our expedition to the Elemental Planes!' He takes out a tool and marks his signet before handing it to you, 'Before we depart you may want to ask the Councilman about the signet.' </blockquote>

Items given to you by Grimel:
Field Satchel

Item Statistics:
<b>Bristlebane's Party Platter</b>
NO DROP
STR: +10 DEX:+10 STA: +10 WIS: +10 INT: +10 AGI: +10
HP: +75 MANA: + 75
This is a miraculous meal!
WT: 8.5 Size: GIANT
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

<b>Marked Runed Signet </b>
MAGIC ITEM LORE NO DROP
Slot: EAR
AC: 17
STR: + 17 DEX: + 17 STA: + 17 WIS: + 17 INT: + 17 AGI: + 17
HP: + 115 MANA: + 115
SV FIRE: +12 SV DISEASE: +12 SV COLD: + 12 SV MAGIC: + 12 SV POISON: + 12
Effect: Regeneration (Worn)
WT: 1.5 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

<u>Recipes</u>

<b><u>Bristlebane's Party Platter</u>(Tanaan Oven/Collapsible Spit, >250 Trivial, Yield: 2)</b>
Justice Fruit Pie
Justice Fruit Pie
Slarghilug Stuffed Poppers
Hero Sandwich
Bucket of Crab Legs
Picnic Basket

<hr>

<b><i>The LAST Step</i></b>

<b>Skill requirement:</b> None extra! (But you MUST meet previous skill requirements from Grimel)

<b>Flag requirement:</b> None extra! (but you NEED access to Elemental Planes in order to do this step)

Following Grimel's advice, hailing the councilman gives a quest similar to Secrets of the Planes: Go fetch a Hope Stone! This step has been verified to NOT be MQable. <b>The councilman will reject items that are turned in to him one at a time.</b> Turn in the signet and the Hope Stone, and you will receive a disgustingly droolworthy earring.

Original text:
<blockquote>You say, 'Hail, Councilman Taldarius'
Councilman Taldarius regards you, and grins. 'Greetings, Iustus. I am Councilman Taldarius, mighty Paladin of Mithaniel Marr and Guardian of the City of Tanaan! If you cannot find what you are looking for here in the Myrist library, I most certainly can add it to my list of things to look for in the Planes. Unfortunately, I am quite busy at the moment, planning my next trip to the Elemental Planes. I believe my aid may have some tasks he could use help with. That is, if you are skilled enough.'
man about the signet.'
You say, 'What about the Marked Runed Signet'
Councilman Taldarius says 'I see you have helped Grimel immensely. He would not have given up his signet very easily. I cannot let him deprive himself of such a valuable tool. If you were to do a task for me I would grant you something I picked up in the Planes. Are you interested in the task?'
You say, 'i am interested in the task'
Councilman Taldarius says 'Very well Iustus. I warn you I will not grant this without proof that you possess a valiant spirit. You may have the trust of my aid but I still require a noble deed. Through research done by the council they have discovered something called a Hope Stone that exists in the Elemental Planes. Bring me one of these stones and the signet of Grimel. Fear not I shall reward you well.'
</blockquote>

Turn in text:
<blockquote>Councilman Taldarius says 'Wonderful! You have proven yourself as both a Master of the Trade as well as a valiant spirit. Take this and may it serve you well!'
You gain experience!! </blockquote>

If you have a mana bar (and are NOT a Bard), you will recieve this:

Signet of the Arcane
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: EAR
AC: 25
STR: +25 DEX: +25 STA: +25 WIS: +25
INT: +25 AGI: +25 HP: +130 MANA: +150
SV FIRE: +15 SV DISEASE: +15 SV COLD: +15 SV MAGIC: +15
SV POISON: +15
Effect: Flowing Thought III (Worn)
Focus Effect: Preservation of Xegony
WT: 1.5 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

If you are a pure melee or a Bard, you will receive this:

Signet of Might
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: EAR
AC: 25
STR: +25 DEX: +25 STA: +25 WIS: +25
INT: +25 AGI: +25 HP: +145
SV FIRE: +15 SV DISEASE: +15 SV COLD: +15 SV MAGIC: +15
SV POISON: +15
Effect: Aura of Bravery (Worn)
WT: 2.0 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

[Fulorian]

If you fail a combine with the Signet, is the signet returned?

[Gorgin]

Yes it is, in Tailoring a Failed Combine returns ONLY the metal signet, no emblem of fire or curing agent.

[Iustus]

I would also like to point out that all the combines based on actual tradeskills seem to be failable. I have failed several of the final combines at various stages (smithing, jc for sure).

-I

[Molasar]

I didnt fail once on any step all the way up to tailoring part. I am 250 in all skills and have tinker mods to boot. I do combines with 305 str/stam/dex and 355 wis. I have failed this week twice on tailoring combine. Anyone else having simalar exp with this step and how bad is the bow combine?

[Kronepsis]

I THINK I got everything up to here. Did I miss anything?

[CaiserSoze]

One thing ya missed in there - priority goes to flags - if your skill is too low and you're missing the flag, he'll tell you you need more experience - Grimel will only insult your skill level if you have the proper flag already.

[Kronepsis]

Thanks! Added.

[EnfinitiStarr8]

To throw a clog int he wheels of what i said before, my 51 Ranger went to Thrug and asked Meg about the Pure bar of Velium and Meg told it to him. The problem is the most PoP Planes I've seen is the day after it came out when I zoned into PoI and PoN, I never even left the zone in area. So I KNOW I dont have any Flags, looks like Meg only checks for level and not flags.

[Gorgin]

Actually the message you got is FACTION related, I am guessing your Ranger has good faction with the dwarves whereas the newbie dwarf you made is dubious or apprehensive at best so Meg refuses to divulge the information to the newbie dwarf.

[Carmaris]

Actually, sounds like Meg checks for faction. A dwarf heading to Thurg for the first time may not have the necessary faction to get Meg to talk to him.

[Molasar]

Fail #3 on tailoring part tonight. This is really getting old.

[Aegypius]

A really odd thought...

Has anyone thought about asking Bristlebane and his party platter?

Or perhaps a related person in Plane of Mischief

[Demorgoth]

No-one in a position to do this step (ie: elemental access) has any busines being within 3 zones of Bristlebane. No elementally able guild is going to mount a nToV raid just on the offchance Bristlebane might respond to a trigger phrase

[Shortyrez]

Yeah uhh...you don't need a raid to get to Bristlebane.

[Chenier]

I'm so out of the times...just learned about this quest tonight. We raid Water quite often, so I'll keep on the look out for any NPC's etc that may help...

/ooc yoohoo, Niami, where are you?

[EnfinitiStarr8]

/ooc yoohoo, Niami, where are you?

:shock: ROFLOL!!!! :D :D

[Chenier]

Forgive me if this has been mentioned (although I did scan the posts about this, I may have missed it), but there are 2 green con named NPC's, Fishlord Lezom and Fishlord Craiyk.

When you hail Lezom, he says this

Fishlord Lezom says 'Be like the water Chenier. The water spirits have fortold of your coming. I am a fishlord, summoner of the dwellers of the deep.'

My impression is that they're related to the boss mob of water and not the quest.

[Forty]

If I'm not mistaken, the two indifferent NPC's there are part of what look's like a Caller's quest. Give them 100 plat and off you go. Although this does present another possibilty.

[Khoren Stonefall]

I talked at length with both Fish Lords, using all the hints from Aid Grimel as triggers in as many ways as I could think to do it. I cannot say with certainty that they aren't involved, but they certainly did not respond to anything I said.

Then, last night, I donned my rogue costume, fired up shroud of stealth, and slinked (slunk?) around as much of the zone as I could stand before I had to go to bed. I was very meticulous with the "regrua room" and the Kiizik (sp?) the Mighty room, and any other place that had a meaningful regrua presence. I also scoured Coirnav's lair (he's UGLY) and did a cursory examination of most of the rest of the floor in the entire zone. I did not see any groundspawns.

I have three thoughts in particular:

1) The 7th stage of the quest may be as-yet unimplemented.
2) The quest text may require high Clerics of Mischief faction (or some other faction) that virtually no one is likely to have just 'cuz--who does faction work for RV?. Later I will find out how to fix my RV cleric faction and see if this helps.
3) The quest may indeed involve the Plane of Mischief. I have not explored the plane, and I don't know how it works. If Bristlebane can be talked to without my getting smacked into next week, I would like to don the rogue costume again and go have a chat with him. I don't suspect it's LIKELY to involve PoM, but that was the first "Wow, I've never thought of that..." idea I've seen in the threads here.

[Gorgin]

I have explored Mischief as well now, I had 3 people mention it to me(it was a I didn't think of that idea for me also) and sent a druid and a warrior that are bound there to scour the zone for the recipe, as of yet they've not turned anything up, if they do I will let this thread know asap.

[Forty]

What where the results from talking to any of the dorfs in Froststone?

[Khoren Stonefall]

1/2 on the fire robe combine for this quest (about 2 weeks ago), and 1/2 on the bow combine for part 6. I also went 1/3 on making a featherwood bow when I was being a complete idiot and forgetting to include my signet in the combine. >_&lt;

Anyway, I've done a lot of tailoring, smithing, and fletching in particular in the planes now, and I've got my money (but no guarentee!) on everything having the same "max" difficulty of 40ish% that we're used to, parts 5 and 6 included.

[Molasar]

Fail #4 on tunic.

[Railina]

Has anyone tried Ellia Foodcrafter (Female Halfling who runs around Misty Thicket, who may be a cleric, and should certainly know about food)

Or, if the originator of this recipe (in the game) is truely dead, perhaps the Halfling representative from the Realm of Heroes may know something.

Recipe books droping in PoWater off Reruga is also a possibility, if one of them killed her it's corpse may yeild up some of her things, such as, for instance, a cookbook.

[Gorgin]

I have tried Ellia and yielded nothing, I've been hunting water lately(mmm Buckets of Crab Legs) to try to find a recipe but as of yet have not, the realm of hero npc might be an idea.
For Data Sake also
235 Smithing 1/1
250 Brewing 1/1
250 JC 1/1
227 Pottery 1/5
220 Tailoring 1/3
220 Fletching 1/1

[Shaman Arriana]

Are there any named undead female halflings anywhere? If she were crushed and deceased, it might be that we need to locate her ghost or animated corpse.

[EnfinitiStarr8]

Has anyone at least tried the Bucket of Crab Legs with the Signet? Who knows, it might do the trick?

[Molasar]

Attempt:
#5 FAILED
#6 FAILED



My data thus far..
250 Smithing 1/1
250 Brewing 1/1
250 JC 1/1
250 Pottery 1/1
250 Tailoring 0/6 !!!!!


Beyond annoyed at this point. Patch right now so will get 3rd sap later to try for a 7th fail!

[Iustus]

I think you are just having horendously bad luck. Are you remembering to close your eyes before clicking the combine button?

My data :
250 Smithing 2/3
250 Brewing 2/2
250 JC 2/4
250 Pottery 1/1
250 Tailoring 1/1

-I

[Tobin Itharel]

On this last unknown baking part... There is another "tradeskill" that has something to do with water - Fishing

Plus, Verant has coded some quests to need different languages to get the NPC to give the quest text.

[Molasar]

Well i finnaly did the combine! I didnt check this thread today but i did close my eyes on the bow combine and it did it first try! Only had 1 string to try so im happy and on my Bday no less! RL-

250 Smithing 1/1
250 Brewing 1/1
250 JC 1/1
250 Pottery 1/1
250 Tailoring 1/7
250 Fletching 1/1


I did redo quest awhile back up to ring so i could have it for POW raids heh.

250 Smithing 1/1
250 Brewing 1/1
250 JC 1/2

I dont have a clue where to look for next part.

[Caladel]

On fishing and plane of water.

I spent a bit there one night with 100 bait and fished it out. Didnt get anything special. The standard fishing junk + the 2 types of fish used in baking recipies already known, nothing else tho.

On a consistancy note, it wouldnt make sense anyway. Regunas are no where near the zone in, and thats the only bit of dry land you can fish at, so wouldnt make sense that the halfling was fishing and got killed by a reguna hehe.

[Ilona]

Happy birthday Molasar!!
..and congratulations on finally getting that tailoring combine done!

[Molasar]

Well i have spent the last several hours running all over with my spam macros made. Hitting every Npc i could find. What ive done and i know others have but i did it anyways.

Spammed every Npc in POT
Swam all over POT, thought maybe recipe would be a bag underwaterfall which is close to POW NOPE!
Tried in halfing Lang to get the 2 halflings at POE to even reconize imthere.
Spammed every mob in Thurg.
Spammed every mob in POK.
Looking for Books in library and buildings, Found 2 tinkering books under beds top of smithing house and one in libarary on shelf thats for some other quest.
Spammed every mob in RV. Oddly enough there is a female cleric in RV with last name that sounds like a baker. Sells spells and wont talk to me.
Had guild rog explore every last spot of POW, An ancient Regrua sentry is up and red con near corniv. Rog ran back to zone so i could con it and was indiff but when he went back to hail it and do some phrases for me it was KOS to him.. odd.

After talking with bakers in pok i thought hmm 5 bakers each with kinda hard recipes. Maybe combine 5 recipes for the platter.
Tormentor stir fry
Bucket of crabs
Mephit sandwhich
Hobgoblin suprise
Mephit meat pie
Justice fruit pies
Twice brewed KCs
and picnic basket
Combine in every possible way and DNC.

Fished in POW while rog explored. 100 cast 18 Giant halibut and 18 Giant snapper caught. Only thing i wasnt sure if it did it before when i used to fish in cs is.. You caught fish scales.. You caught something
however the .. You caught something.. WAS fish scales! i dont get that. Why 2 diff messages for same item.. fish scales.. Oh and i even used my Brells fishing pole gotten from quest. Just cause grimel says Brell bless her soul heh

Only other thing ive seen in POW drop is Triloun meat and Suctoin cups off squid things. I think hydrotha dropped an Eye once too. Im out of ideals now.

[Gorgin]

the sentry was differently conned due to you being out of water and the rogue in water probably, I see that happen in water zones alot.

[Khoren Stonefall]

I am thirteen Beek Guinders turnins past the point where I became indifferent to Priests of Mischief now. This faction is not much fun to raise because hunting stacks of black wolf skins takes a long time, and people virtually never save them. The servers going up and down is leaving me only to find a few at a time when I go and check all the vendors in all the zones where they drop.

I figure it's worth giving this faction a shot since it is incredibly rare to find someone who has it up high, and thus its one of the few obvious but still (as far as I know) untested avenues. We've picked PoWater apart. I'm sure many people have gone over it with a shrouded rogue like I did. We've hit PoK, RV, and Shadowhaven... Naturally, we might have missed something, but one thing I suspect almost all of us have in common is that our Priests of Mischief faction sucks, since there is only one way to raise it. Until I pick apart Rivervale with my runed signet, party platter bag, level, faction, and flaggage, I won't feel comfortable that it's been exhausted as a possibility.

Oh well! Back to hunting wolves and trying not to think about the fact that the quest may not be implemented past part 6 yet. ;)

[Khoren Stonefall]

Regarding fish scales: I'm not sure if it can happen in all zones, but as long as I can remember while fishing I've caught fish scales with both messages.

I guess, maybe, they have fish scales on the fishing table for most or all zones, as well as on the table of items you catch when you catch a "something" item.

[EnragedFilia]

try using the baking recipes with waterplane components. The trilounmeat one and the crab legs, maybe slarghilug poppers too. At this point its depressing but the best option i can think of is to run through every combination of pop and especially waterplane baking recipes we have hoping to get a result. Of course it might just be unfinished anyway...

[Aegypius]

I have heard several people mention combining several PoP recipes together. But when I saw the list above it did not include a planar blood brew for a drink. Just another idea for the mill.

[Forty]

Killed the Ancient Regrua sentry twice now. He had no loot first kill and a diamond second kill.

[Shortyrez]

Not sure what's more frustrating...the fact that baking hasn't been figured out yet, or that I'm still kos to coldain after days of faction work =/

[Khoren Stonefall]

18 Beek Guinders turn-ins past the point at which I hit amiable now, and still no dice with any Priests of Mischief faction mobs. Only went through all the triggers in common tongue though. I'll wait til warmly to do it all in common and halfling, and then I'll see where my merchants faction is, and my other halfling factions and talk to those guys too.

[Lilosh]

Might it be a good idea to create a newbie Halfling cleric, spam the guild you start in with the "What platter" series of messages, and see if anyone gives you the "Come back when you can slay a tadpole , NOOB" message , or gives the "Your skill is too low" motion?


-Lilosh

[EnfinitiStarr8]

Might it be a good idea to create a newbie Halfling cleric, spam the guild you start in with the "What platter" series of messages, and see if anyone gives you the "Come back when you can slay a tadpole , NOOB" message , or gives the "Your skill is too low" motion?


Already done by myself and I'm sure a few other people. This is what I tried spamming to almost everyine;


"How do you make a Bristlebane Party Plater? How do you make a Party Plater? How do you make a Plater? What Plane of Water? Who is Aid Grimel? Who is Grimel? I am here to help Aid Grimel. I am here to help Grimel."

I did not try it in Halfling, was not a thought at the time. But this is from an older post on the first page of the new thread here. Feel free to read what I said there. We can always try it in Halfling again, maybe they fixed something with one of the patches?

[Gorgin]

yeah every patch I redo What Bristlebane's Party Platter? What Party Platter? What Niami?(waves at the denmom) What nice female Halfling cleric? What Regrua? What Plane of Water? What Aid Grimel? How do I make a Bristlebane's Party Platter? and Aid Grimel sent me, I do it in Halfling AND in Common speech to insure that I cover both my language barriers. I've not seen an NPC give me a faction message(I won't aid beings like you!) or anything that would insinuate they know something but just won't tell me.

[khalysta]

Has kraken and crab meat been dropping in water previously? I dont remember seeing either until today while clearing out mobs. Crab meat came off the regruas of course. If it is new then maybe there is a new recipe out there somewhere.

[Gorgin]

Crab Meat has always dropped, albeit rarely. Kraken, Triloun, Fish Eggs and Shrimp also drop or are foraged in the zone.

[khalysta]

crab meat must be really rare thats like the first time I've noticed it in a month of farming there. Usually its the claws which we know what to do with. Oh well thought it was new but I guess not.

[Khoren Stonefall]

We hit water pretty hard each time it spawns, and I'd say we probably get an average of 1.5 crab meats every time we do Mighty and Ofossa. I haven't seen any drops in the past week that I had never seen before, except Kraken Suction Cups (prolly just luck that we hadn't seen them before). Nothing even vaguely interesting has dropped for us besides common crab legs and rare crab meat. No other hints of any kind.

[Eiwyn]

Please update the guide for Aid Grimel Quest, last updated 29 January 2003

First line is line from guide, second line is my suggested correction.

(Cleaned) Breastplate
Cleansed Breastplate

(Coated) Breastplate
Tempered Breastplate

Faceted Blue Diamond: (Jewelry Kit, trivial > 250)
Faceted Blue Diamond: (Planar Jeweller's Kit, trivial > 250)

[Kronepsis]

Updated my post. Thanks for the corrected names and missed label. :)

[Demorgoth]

Grrr!!! This baking step is annoying the hell outta me. Most obvious suspect is Ms. Cabbagepot in PoTranq, but I can't get her to say or do anything except reach for that **** tray. I've hailed and prompted every npc I can find with a variety of hotkeyed trigger phrases and there's not even a HINT

Then, at the back of my head, there's this nagging thought that maybe the next step won't be ingame or another 2 years, or maybe I should be asking about 'Bristlbeane's Praty Plattter' instead...

[EnragedFilia]

weird spontaneous thought...
NPCs react to emotes right? so why not try something like /e gives the tray to %t, or /e helps %t reach the tray...
or maybe theres supposed to be a ground spawn on top of the counter that got put 0.1 points too low and ended up inside it, or maybe youre supposed to hand her the satchel from grimel or.. or..
getting confused afterwards is the downside of weird spontaneous thoughts like that.

[Nyteshadow]

am 1/1 up to Fletching, an now 0/1, BAH... an made 4 bow attempts this morning (2/4), really didn't expect to get a group and get my last Sacred Water this morning! Only been tryin for that water off an on for like a month now!

A few corrections for the website details

Marked Signet has 12 AC

the bow combine requires a Planing Tool that is not listed

[Kronepsis]

Corrected on my post. Thanks. :)

[Demorgoth]

weird spontaneous thought...
NPCs react to emotes right? so why not try something like /e gives the tray to %t, or /e helps %t reach the tray...
or maybe theres supposed to be a ground spawn on top of the counter that got put 0.1 points too low and ended up inside it, or maybe youre supposed to hand her the satchel from grimel or.. or..
getting confused afterwards is the downside of weird spontaneous thoughts like that.

hehe, tried all of the above. Clicked all around the table, looked under the table, and yup, handed her the empty bag too. Hell, I even tried to dance with the troll in there...

[Gorgin]

Wonder if we can find a recipe for a tray and give it to her, I've talked to her and done everythign Demor has also lol

[Forty]

So sorry. The recipe can only be found once you have purchased Legacy of Ykesha.

[Iustus]

I am going to try a bunch of experiments, both with some raw materials, and with combining end results of existing recepies. Some raw materials I will be trying:

Crab Meat
WT: 0.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: NONE
Race: NONE
Non-stackable, sells for 95.238pp each, I suspect this is just pp loot
Dropped by regrua in plane of water.

Regrua Claws
WT: 0.2 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Stackable, sells for 0.952pp each
Dropped by regrua in plane of water.
Used in recepie for Cracked Regrua Meat (http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_PoP_baking.htm), which is used to make a Bucket of Crab Legs (http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_PoP_baking.htm).

Large Mephit Fins
WT: 2.0 Size: LARGE
Class: NONE
Race: NONE
Stackable, sells for 11.429pp each
Dropped by mephits in plane of water.

Small Mephit Fins
WT: 1.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: NONE
Race: NONE
Stackable, sells for 13.810pp each
Dropped by mephits in plane of water.

Hraquis Antennae
WT: 3.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: NONE
Race: NONE
Stackable, sells for 6.190pp each
Dropped by hraquis in plane of water.

Hraquis Tail
WT: 2.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: NONE
Race: NONE
Stackable, sells for 12.381pp each
Dropped by hraquis in plane of water.

Gemmed Fin
WT: 2.0 Size: LARGE
Class: NONE
Race: NONE
Stackable, sells for 24.762pp each, pp loot?
Dropped by fish in plane of water.

Kraken Meat
WT: 1.0 Size: LARGE
Class: NONE
Race: NONE
Stackable, sells for 11.429pp each
Dropped by kraken in plane of water.

Cluster of Kelp
WT: 1.0 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Stackable, vendor will not buy
Foraged in plane of water.

More info later.

-I

[Iustus]

in Tannan Oven:

Crab meat + vegetables + Celestial essence + water + pot = DNC
1-2 large mephit fins + vegetables + Celestial essence + water + pot = DNC
1-2 small mephit fins + 1-2 large mephit fins + vegetables + Celestial essence + water + pot = DNC
1-2 small mephit fins + vegetables + Celestial essence + water + pot = DNC
1-2 Regrua Claws + vegetables + Celestial essence + water + pot = DNC
1-3 Hraquis antennae + vegetables + Celestial essence + water + pot = DNC
Kraken Meat + vegetables + Celestial essence + water + pot = DNC
1-2 Hraquis Tail + vegetables + Celestial essence + water + pot = DNC
1-6 Gemmed Fin + vegetables + Celestial essence + water + pot = DNC

Crab Meat + pot + spices + sauces + water = DNC
0-2 Large mephit fins + 0-2 small mephit fins + pot + spices + sauces + water = DNC
1-6 Regrua Claws + pot + spices + sauces + water = DNC
1-2 Cracked Regrua Meat + pot + spices + sauces + water = DNC
0-3 Hraquis antenna + 0-2 Hraquis Tail + pot + spices + sauces + water = DNC
Kraken Meat + pot + spices + sauces + water = DNC
1-6 Gemmed Fins + pot + spices + sauces + water = DNC

Crab Meat + Spices + Smoker = DNC
0-2 Large mephit fins + 0-2 small mephit fins + Spices + Smoker = DNC
1-4 Regrua Claws + Spices + Smoker = DNC
1-2 Cracked Regrua Meat + Spices + Smoker = DNC
0-3 Hraquis antenna + 0-2 Hraquis Tail + Spices + Smoker = DNC
Kraken Meat + Spices + Smoker = DNC
1-4 Gemmed Fins + Spices + Smoker = DNC

Hraquis antenna + frosting = DNC
Hraquis Tail + frosting = DNC

Crab Meat + spices + phoenix dough + pie tin = DNC
0-2 Large mephit fins + 0-2 small mephit fins + spices + phoenix dough + pie tin = DNC
Regrua Claws + spices + phoenix dough + pie tin = DNC
Cracked Regrua Meat + spices + phoenix dough + pie tin = DNC
0-1 Hraquis antenna + 0-1 Hraquis Tail + spices + phoenix dough + pie tin = DNC
Kraken Meat + spices + phoenix dough + pie tin = DNC
Gemmed Fins + spices + phoenix dough + pie tin = DNC

Crab Meat + spices + clump of dough + pie tin = DNC
0-2 Large mephit fins + 0-2 small mephit fins + spices + clump of dough + pie tin = DNC
Regrua Claws + spices + clump of dough + pie tin = DNC
Cracked Regrua Meat + spices + clump of dough + pie tin = DNC
0-1 Hraquis antenna + 0-1 Hraquis Tail + spices + clump of dough + pie tin = DNC
Kraken Meat + spices + clump of dough + pie tin = DNC
Gemmed Fins + spices + clump of dough + pie tin = DNC

Crab Meat + dressing + bread = DNC
0-1 Large mephit fins + 0-1 small mephit fins + dressing + bread = DNC
Regrua Claws + dressing + bread = DNC
Cracked Regrua Meat + dressing + bread = DNC
0-1 Hraquis antenna + 0-1 Hraquis Tail + dressing + bread = DNC
Kraken Meat + dressing + bread = DNC
Gemmed Fins + dressing + bread = DNC

Crab Meat + jug of sauces = DNC
0-1 Large mephit fins + 0-1 small mephit fins + jug of sauces DNC
Regrua Claws + jug of sauces = DNC
Cracked Regrua Meat + jug of sauces = DNC
0-1 Hraquis antenna + 0-1 Hraquis Tail + jug of sauces = DNC
Kraken Meat + jug of sauces = DNC
Gemmed Fins + jug of sauces = DNC

1-4 Crab Meat + butter = DNC
0-1 Large mephit fins + 0-1 small mephit fins + butter = DNC
Regrua Claws + butter = DNC
Cracked Regrua Meat + butter = DNC
0-1 Hraquis antenna + 0-1 Hraquis Tail + butter = DNC
Kraken Meat + butter = DNC
Gemmed Fins + butter = DNC

Anyone have any good ideas on something to try? I am going to try working with combining existing items for a bit, burned out on these.

-I

[Gorgin]

I'm stumped, today I spent 3 hours in Water with a SoS rogue camping each of the 2 Regrua rooms for 30mins each and spending the other 2 hours roaming around checking every inch of water and found nothing, I've killed every mob in water sans Coirnav and done both of the Fishlord "quests" and found nothing. I then switch to experimentation mode and tried every combination of 1food 1 drink from PoP I could think of, I tried every PoP food in every combination(made a spreadsheet and went through every one don't ask took like 6 hours) I tried Grobbs, Qeynos Tea, Kaladim, Twice Brewed Kaladim, JumJum Spiced Beer, Fuzzlecutter(whatever the stuff from the gnome is) and Planar Blood Brew. All of the combinations lead to a DNC so I am convinced it either isn't implemented yet, or the recipe involves old world ingredients/foods/drinks as well. Until someone can verify it as being unbroken I'm just going to stop experimenting and watch to see if anyone can solve the recipe. I'm even considering offering like 10-20k to someone on Tunare if they can find the recipe incase I missed it, oh well tired dwarf signing off!

[Khoren Stonefall]

I'm still dinking around with Priests of Mischief faction just so we can say it's been dinked around with by a level 65 with the 6th earring and the bag in his inventory. However, we must also consider the vague possibility that the quest involves time access. What better way to consult a dead baking cleric than to meddle with time? :p

Alas, I feel the same as Gorgin. After I've gotten warmly+ with the Priests of Mischief and tried everything I can with them I, too, will probably sit back and wait.

[CaiserSoze]

Well....according to one of the devs, the recipe is in game, but refused to give even slight hints to where... now, we all know their track record for saying such things, and then later saying 'oops, sorry bout that'.... but they at least have the impression that the recipe is live =)

[Forty]

Iustus, only things I could suggest to include on your list is cheese (cheese, mature cheese) and the possibility of a platter (tray) being made through smithing (or tinkering) that would be required for the combine, much like a pie tin.

[EnfinitiStarr8]

Iustus, it's great that you tried all the combines like that but I think you and everyone else is overlooking one thing....


Portable Drink:
Twice Brewed Constitutional
Twice Brewed Constitutional
Twice Brewed Constitutional
Leather Signet

Velium Blue Diamond Ring:
Faceted Blue Diamond
Bar of Enchanted Pure Velium
Clay Signet

Filled Sacred Urn:
Sacred Water
Sacred Water
Sacred Water
Wooden Signet

Signet Featherwood Bow:
Air Bow String
Featherwood bow staff
Wind Cam
Wind Cam
Marked Signet

All the recipes for the quest use the SIGNET, look at the last one, the Featherwood Bow. The recipe for the real bow is:
-Featherwood bow staff
-air bow string
-2 Wind Cams
-in a planar fletching kit
where the SIgnet Featherwood Bow is:
-Air Bow String
-Featherwood bow staff
-2 Wind Cams
-Marked Signet
-in a planar fleching kit

The key difference is the Signet. I really think we have tried the recipe before just not with the signet.

[Moosius]

Enfini, that is a good point... however, the Bristlebane Platter needs to be made first.. and 3 combined with signet in bag. You're looking at the final combines and not the prep work needed to do the final combine.

[Iustus]

What Moosius said. Bristlebane's Party Platter is the same as Twice Brewed Constitutional in the brewing step (and I am sure it will be no drop as well).

It is very clear that the final combine is:

Signet Party Platter: (Field Satchel)
Bristlebane's Party Platter
Bristlebane's Party Platter
Bristlebane's Party Platter
Runed Signet

(I made up the name of the combined item).

To refresh your memory:


You say, 'I am a Master Chef'
Aid Grimel says 'When we adventure in the Planes there is only one meal that keeps us in top fighting shape. It is called a Bristlebane's Party Platter. Unfortunately the platter is awkward and not easy to adventure with so you need to place them in this satchel. I know not how to make the Platter, a rather nice female Halfling cleric always used to deliver them to us but I heard she was crushed by a Regrua while hunting for a rare component in the Plane of Water. Brell bless her soul! Combine three of the platters and the signet inside the satchel.'

-I

[Demorgoth]

Unless of course the signet is part of the platter as well as the final bag combine, and you have to do the full aerring quest to this point four times!

/dodges 500 rotten tomatoes being thrown at him

Seriously though, all those DNCs have saved us all a ton of duplicated work, so much appreciated for posting them.

Personally, I've been persuing the blind questing route rather than the blind combining route.

Two planar NPCs of note:

1: Name: Trissha Pettals
Found: Good Wing Middle Wing, Plane of Justice
Race: Halfling
Language: Halfling
You say, 'Hail, Trisha Pettals'
Trisha Pettals says,in Halfling, 'Why!' She sobs, and covers her face with her hands. 'Why did I listen to him? Why? What [foul misfortune] is this that has descended upon me?'
You say, 'what foul misfortune'
Trisha Pettals says,in Halfling, 'Such woeful days, of such infinite duration have I spent herein. All because I took the advice of Vanim. . . what evil tidings he brought. What lies he spread, and what a susceptible fool am I for believing him. . . ' She redoubles her tears, and you can do little to bring her around. 'Dear Rainkeeper, why?'

Second NPC is the aforementioned female halfer in the diner in PoTranq. I'm sure there's more to that building than simply flavor. The 'sick house' had a massive role to play in the main storyline plot. I find it hard to imagine the other NPCs in the zone have no role to play.

Also, I'm thinking maybe the link with Naimi's ingame character may well be more than coincidence. Mods on the safehouse got a mention when NPCs in Seru were named I believe. We all know this website is tradeskill central, so I could well believe the coders of this quest might chose to immortalise the DenMother in the ultimate tradeskill quest. Therefore I'm also keeping an eye out for resemblances to Naimi or something like that.

Soooooo frustrating to be at the forefront of a quest, then get stumped for so long.

[Forty]

Between work, family (wife and 2 kids), and being in a raid guild I've found very little time to actually make any meaningful attempts at combines or hails. The best I can do, at this point, is to keep throwing out random ideas in hope that someone that can spend more online time working on this can take a "stupid doesn't make sense" idea and turn it into combinable winner.

Ok, that being said I'm going to do some thinking outloud here:

We know that a Halfling Cleric was crushed looking for a rare component for the party platter. Halfling Clerics follow Bristlebane as do Gnome Clerics. Not sure if anyone has looked in Gnome town. Only other class/race that follow Bristlebane are rogues. Well, until the frogs become available.

Bristlebane's Party Platter (and the fact that the food was described as awkward) suggests that there could be a serving tray, plate or platter involved in the combine. Knowing there is a Wok, might be worth a try to replace the Clockwork Carapace with some sort of plate found in PoI, like the Metallic plate. Realizing that the Crab Cracker was something that was so easy in design that most over looked ever using the items, I can see where this might work. (I mean, really, a knuckle joint and two metal rods, so easy I would have never thought to use them.)

What about the daily news papers (or whatever they are) that some merchants sell. The one I picked up today in Rivervale was the Volume 2 Number 7 and had two recipes in it. Anyone able to review past editions from any of the Bristlebane following towns?

[CaiserSoze]

Whew, FINALLY got my Bertoxx flag, signet 2, just short 1 drop of pure rain for starting second ear ... =)


Updates:
Step 1 - BP cleaning, trivial over 220, got skillup to 221

Step 2 - BP coating, trivial over 221, got skillup to 222 WOOT =)

[CaiserSoze]

Step one BP Cleaning - not trivial at 222 =)

[Orolmy]

With someone mentioning the link to Denmom, I had a thought... In Plane of Tranquility there's a female Halfling called Trila Cabbageroll at neg130 neg1270 who when hailed has the response.

Trila Cabbageroll doesn't seem to notice you. Her concentration is set on trying to reach the tray that rests on the table before her.

Now I've not done any stages of this quest personally, so I can't say if her response is different depending on flags/previous quest inclusion... but it's gotta be a link...

[Role Meggido]

I tried a bunch of different things with her
-Emotes
-Text
-Items to help her get the tray
-Items to give her a new tray

So far no luck, though I haven't tried giving her any grow potions though, hmm.

[murgatroyde]

Elder Clinka, who gives the final gate talisman, has almost the exact same emote when you hail her. Something like, "Elder Clinka doesn't seem to notice you." Only when you hand her the talisman schematic does she respond. I'm guessing (if this is the right npc) that you need to have an undecipherable recipe or something to hand to her. Who knows - maybe if you hand her a bucket of crab or triloun tail soup she'll say something.

Grongl

[Gorgin]

Going off of Murgatroyde's idea I tried handing Trina all the various water drops, PoP food and random items I had on me and she refused them all saying she had no use for them, to my knowledge an NPC only returns stuff if they want something for a quest so I would guess SOMEWHERE there's a tray poor Trina wants.

[Iustus]

For the quest writeup, this is the text for completing the 6th step and turning in the bow. (1/1 on this!)


Aid Grimel says 'Masterful work Iustus! I can see your skill in the curves of the bow. Take this as a sign of my respect for your skill. The last item I need before we can be off is some food. I warn you this will truly test your skills. Do you fancy yourself a master chef?'

You will note he says, "the last item I need before we can be off". You can interperet this two different ways. In either case, this seems to be the last pure tradeskill part of the quest. It may also be the end, or there may be a final battle type thing, depending on what you think he means by "be off".

-I

[Forty]

And the question as to who the "we" is he refers to....

[Quaras]

Has anyone tried to use halfling parts in the Party Platter recipe? Odd and sick, but perhaps worth a try.

[Gorgin]

The "we" probably refers to the Councilman standing right next to him. Each of the Councilman have an Aid, you do quests for the Aid so the Councilman will eventually speak to you.

[CaiserSoze]

Update on pottery step - you do NOT need the flag you get from Maelin after killing both zeks - Prior to tonight, only pre-Rallos/sol ro flags I was missing were Saryrn and Tallon Zek - couldn't get text.... got Saryrn flag tonight, talked to Maelin, and after turning in ring for 3rd signet, I was able to get the urn pattern - unfortunately, I did not check after getting Saryrn, but before talking to Maelin... Still missing Tallon Zek flag, so apparently simply having one of the packs of notes from the Zeks is sufficient. =)

So far...
Smithing - 6/6 successes for the 2 bps..
Brewing - 6/6 on the double constitutionals..
Jewelcraft - 2/4 on the pure velium bars (ouch), 2/2 on the rings

Got signet 3, and ring to turn in to replace it soon as I make my urn... =) Pottery only 233 atm though, so might try to skill up a bit more unless I have more divine glaze on my potter than I remember :)

[Eiwyn]

Have anyone checked Plane of Mischief lately? Was years since I was there last, so this is just another wild idea trown out. PoM is Bristlebanes plane after all. Maybe there are clues to be found there.

[Iustus]

Well, I did some experiments, but not enough to bother listing here. I ended up with 20 different pop baked goods to try combinations with. Assuming that the recepie uses 10 items, that still leaves a huge huge huge number or combinations. Even eliminating some I am sure must be part of the recipie (like Slarghilug Stuffed Poppers), there are still way to many combinations. I tried 10 or 20 likely ones, but got a bit discouraged by the number of combinations. Way too many to go thru myself.

-I

[Kronepsis]

Hmmm...as that information about the Zeks doesn't seem to contradict any prior confirmations (i.e. no one tried it with just one before), I'll add it tentatively...but secondary confirmation would be nice. Thanks for the update guys. :D

[CaiserSoze]

Now have a sacred urn and an unfired urn, just needing sacred water now...
233 Pottery + Geerlock, 2/2 on unfired urn, 1/1 on firing...
And don't have Tallon Zek flag yet.. =)

Question on the Sacred Waters - Do they drop from any of the human models in PoV?
I know that Grenic Drere can drop sacred water, a guildie had one drop from him the other week (and was ninja'd before I could get there to loot =( )... as far as the 'guards in tents' goes, I'd imagine that these are the guard outpost buildings straight out past graveyard? And if so...do any of the guards drop, or just the ones inside, and not the perimeter guards? Have yet to have any drop from there, so not sure if I'm having crap luck so far, or killing the wrong guys =)

[Naedayr]

The sacred water only drops off of the mega man models.

[jugador]

what's the droprate like on the sacred waters? I've killed a few but this was way back when the zone had just opened

[Fulorian]

Why are you doing the quest 6 times?

[jugador]

Also, Can anyone verify a failure on the Sacred Waterx3+Signet combine? Wondering if its like a glaze or celestial essence combine (very rare if not no-fail combine). Making the urn won't be too bad at 220, rather do that then have to do another 20 skillups so i don't poof the Sacred Waters

[EnragedFilia]

he isnt doing it 6 times, he's doing it twice
the 6/6 smithing and 6/6 brewing refers to the 3 combines for each of the steps. and he would be doing it twice in order to have a second velium ring for hp/mp and worn eb, as several people have mentioned

[CaiserSoze]

Actuallly....dont care about having a second ring, its..well... not all that great at the upper levels of the game.. very few folks who are able to get to the elemental planes to finish the quest would use it as anything other than EB gear to last til they get their elemental helm..... doing it for a second earring... having the 15 stats/10 saves/100 hp/mana/3 hp per tick regen ear as the lesser of two ears (assuming baking is the final step...more would rock though ;) ) will most definitely be nice....

[Forty]

Still looking for items that *might* somehow be connected when I came across this: http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=28219

Any idea where it comes from and what it might be used for (other than a weapon or +5% baking item)?

[jugador]

Have all the other Aid quests been solved fully? IIRC the Aid quest that resulted in the recipe for the Crab Cracker had a continuation. There's also a troll (or ogre?) that asks you to go to Ogguk to deliver several items to a friend. Maybe we have missed a quest somewhere within the library that would result in the coveted Bristlebane's Party Platter.

[Demorgoth]

Been looking into the other quests, mainly because of the Planar Manual quests converging eventually. Thing is, the Akanon linked quest that provides the Crab Cracker recipe, seems to end after you get the cloak and recipie:


Aid Fimli says 'Great! I see you got the items to uncle; perhaps he will stop badgering me now and let me be in my work. Hmmmmm, Uncle mentions in his letter that he worked out a way for a gnome to make a giant set of crab crackers. He states it is useless in Norrath but I may be able to make some use of it out here. I guess it wouldn't hurt to share it with you and file it away in the library. To create the cracker combine two metal rods, firewater and a knuckle joint in a toolbox. Interesting indeed, anyways here if your reward; I hope you can put it to good use.'

There is progression to the Aid Enio (sp?) quest but absolutely no indication that it converges with the Grimel line. Grimel's boss also seems to be the only one talking about 'heading to the planes and fighting' once he has the supplies. I would also be somewhat dismayed if this quest required racial faction.

Everything thus far has been entirely PoP related. I'd hazard a guess that the remained is also entirely PoP related. I still think Trila Cabbageroll is the key, and that the tray she is trying to reach possibly holds the elusive Platter, but due to the limitations of the whole hail/quest engine, it's just a matter of hitting on the exact (possibly misspelled) quest phrase.

I've spent literally hours standing there emoting, hailing, talking to her, I've also spammed the other NPCs in the building - only one who gave a hint was an Iksar speaking about bloodwater and the food he likes. All the standard foods from Cabilis were returned with the standard 'No thx' responce.

Iustus's random DNC lists were very useful, since they stop duplication of work. I even tried 3 x Buckets of crab meat + earring in bag, but that was DNC too (figured buckets were 'hard to carry around', and Bristlbane, being a joker, could refer to just about anything). I've got trackers to scout PoN, and they have noticed no new spawns. I've read the books in the library referring to halfers for a clue, and noticed nothing related.

Basically, this seems to be a step like the JC level earring, where you need the help of another NPC to continue. Trouble is, there is ZERO hint as to where to go next. I know I'm getting frustrated at wasting all this time, and I suspect the other initial discoverers of the quest are feeling the same. So depressing to have at the back of your mind the thought that the whole quest may be fubared at this point, and we'll have to wait 3 years for a patch to put a 'Ghost of Healalot Furrytoes' into PoWater or something silly like that.

I'd really like to continue this quest at a time when the result will actually be useful to me, but as the weeks go on, I'm getting closer and closer to upgrading my earrings to a point at which the next step would probably be banked. Would be really nice to get over this step before the whole quest becomes just another nodrop trinket in your (expanded thankfully) vault. Kinda at a loss at where to go next (:o(

[Khoren Stonefall]

Everything thus far has been entirely PoP related.
That's mostly true, but not entirely. This quest cannot be completed without good coldain faction. You need to have the hammer, and you need to have the etching tools--no way around it (well, technically, if you saved the etching tools and hammer from some time when you DID have good coldaion faction, you don't need to get it up again). Meg Tucter also gives you part of one of the recipes (specifically added to her dialogue for this quest, apparently--not something left over from another quest like the coldain hammer) in addition to the etching tools.

Thus it's inaccurate to say there's no precedent to suggest our solution COULD be outside of PoP. I'm a little more disheartened by the lack of any verification that the quest is actually implemented yet, and the rumours that suggest it isn't.

[Demorgoth]

Ack, yeah, you're right - I totally forgot about needing good coldain faction. That's kinda depressing that a certain % of tradeskillers could be excluded (or forced to spend many hours raising faction)

[Shortyrez]

Heh, STILL Kos to coldain...I regret ever thinking about killing the Dain. =/

[Sunmina]

nm, found the answer to my question buried in the old thread. Thanks!

[Forty]

I spent some looking through various websites to see what information I could get about the other quests offered by the Aids.

Aid Eino

Aid Eino Quest Info (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2231)

Completing the quest opens up new text from Councilwoman Kerasha.

[Tue Jan 28 23:15:10 2003] You say, 'Hail, Councilwoman Kerasha'
[Tue Jan 28 23:15:10 2003] Councilwoman Kerasha says 'Greetings <Insert random name here>! It pleases me very much that you were able to help Eino out in his time of need.' Councilwoman Kerasha glances at Eino 'Tunare only knows what I with do without him at my side. There is another matter at hand that has come to the attention of the council that is beyond even our combined power and requires the aid of a powerful alliance. Would you be willing to aid Tanaan?'

To date, saying "I am willing to help tanaan." has resulted in the standard "lack knowledge of the planes to help me" text. No one that has posted information has been flagged high enough to get an other response.

Aid Fimli

Aid Fimli Quest Info (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2297)

Grand Librarian offers information for unlocking flags for higher levels and has background stories for entering Plane of Time, but does not seem to have any additional information related to the Aid Fimli quest.

Aid Garuuk

Aid Garuuk Quest Info (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2230)

Completing this quest results in the reward The Hoop of the Traveler but no other information was found.

I decided to make a Troll Shaman and search for Garuuk’s cousin. He was found and the following conversation is as follows:

[Tue Feb 18 10:20:58 2003] You say, 'Hail, Bregna'
[Tue Feb 18 10:20:58 2003] Bregna says 'Me says hi to you. What you want from me? Oh!! Me shaman trainer. You must be shaman. Are you [shaman Darkone]?'
[Tue Feb 18 10:21:11 2003] You say, 'I am a shaman Darkone.'
[Tue Feb 18 10:21:11 2003] Bregna says 'You choose rite if you bes a shaman. We's da best. You remember ta not get in Kaglari way. She get mad berry easy. She gets berry mad at Bregna if she finds out me make [big mistake].'
[Tue Feb 18 10:21:26 2003] You say, 'what big mistake?'
[Tue Feb 18 10:21:26 2003] Bregna says 'Kaglari make me do the tasks for her. She tolds me to take crate of speshal poshuns to sumwun in Nektoolos forust. But I make mistake. I fall asleep under da trees becuz I was so tired. I wake up and poshuns are gone! Sumwun take the poshuns frum me. Dey leave dis note wit me. Me tinks dey play trick on me. Me tinks it be da stinkin' Halflings. Me needs ta gets dem back before Kaglari find out. I need sumwun to help me [find da poshuns].'
[Tue Feb 18 10:21:47 2003] You say, 'I will help you find da poshuns.'
[Tue Feb 18 10:21:47 2003] Bregna says 'Tank you!! If you gets dem back, me promus to gives you a [Kaglari mana doll].'

Note read:

To the troll that was sleeping in the forest: You have fallen victim to the Pranksters of Bristlebane! We have taken your potions and scattered them across the land. We have however created some riddles so you can try to find them. What a fun game this will be! Riddle number 1: Search high, search LOW, where the second clue is, you don't know.'

[Forty]

Tried to hand in the Waterlogged Sash to various NPC's on the off chance that they might provide more info...tried "cleaning" the parasite infected crap carapice. Nada.

[jugador]

that troll quest sounds like our best lead yet.

[Shortyrez]

Could you post some info on exactly where Bregna can be found?

[Forty]

Bregna is located in Neriak FQ at neg 250, neg 237.

Took a DE rogue to see him as well and was able to get the same info.

[Vaslin]

> Bristlebane! Riddle number 1: Search high, search LOW, where the second clue is, you don't know.'

Duke of Above and Below in Echo Caverns?

[Lilosh]

I foolishly assumed this would be some kind of Troll Newbie quest, in Nektulos.


*Shrug*

Any new ground spawns in Nektulos?


-Lilosh

[Forty]

I thought it was an old Troll shaman quest, but most of the websites I go to have updated all their zones and I found it difficult to verify the date of the quest submissions. Sooo, I dunno.

Anyway, the two items and one quest conclusion I'd like to look into are the Large Greasy Spoon (ID's as "to stir things up" and found on Lucy) and Water Soaked Journal (ID'd as "this journal appears to be soaked in swamp water"). The Water Soaked Journal is listed in Magelo as item number 51094 and is CLR only. But, like the Large Greasy Spoon, I can find no other information on it. I keep thinking that there might be an item that drops off a mob that hasn't been killed that often, similar to the book (Time grows Near) that drops off Rizlona. So until more guilds start doing the Water scripts we may not know.

Otherwise, I'd like to see what the conclusion to the Aid Eino quest is.

[EnfinitiStarr8]

....similar to the book (Time grows Near) that drops off Rizlona.

What book is this, just it sounds like it's something, is it a Lore book, or a "Map" book to give hints about getting into the PoTime? Also, anyone swim along the bottom of the waters in Nektulos and Neriak for something, BIG long shot, but anything is better then nothing.

[mepper]

About Bregna; looking at the reward in Magelo, it's a large shaman only ac4 mana15 doll. It's item 12212 submitted 9/01/2001, so wouldn't that make it unlikely to be part of a PoP quest? I still think it's possible that some of the text that's not reported (either when you turn in the 4 items to Bregna or when you return whatever trinket to Aid Garuuk) might have some nice information that was overlooked, so I'm trying to coerce people into helping me get the last two parts so I can check that.

[Kellan]

Aid Grimel says 'Masterful work Iustus! I can see your skill in the curves of the bow. Take this as a sign of my respect for your skill. The last item I need before we can be off is some food. I warn you this will truly test your skills. Do you fancy yourself a master chef?'


You say, 'I am a Master Chef'
Aid Grimel says 'When we adventure in the Planes there is only one meal that keeps us in top fighting shape. It is called a Bristlebane's Party Platter. Unfortunately the platter is awkward and not easy to adventure with so you need to place them in this satchel. I know not how to make the Platter, a rather nice female Halfling cleric always used to deliver them to us but I heard she was crushed by a Regrua while hunting for a rare component in the Plane of Water. Brell bless her soul! Combine three of the platters and the signet inside the satchel.'

I think we are grasping at straws now with the old troll shaman quest. Verant makes baked goods require the container as part of the making and that is where we should be expending our efforts. Misty Thicket Picnic requires a picnic basket, Bucket of Crab Legs requires a bucket, Centi Toe Soup requires a pot... so Bristlebane's Party Platter should require some sort of platter or tray. Trila Cabbageroll may be the answer, but until someone figures her out I suggest we focus on finding a recipe for a platter or tray.

[Forty]

I didn't expect the troll shaman quest to be the answer directly but that indirectly it might lead to NPC's on the "Pranksters of Bristlebane" and that angle might be worth looking at. I have yet to see any mobs being listed on this faction if it is really a faction in game.

Rizlona is one of five mobs you must kill to gain access to SolRo himself. The book drops everytime and basically tells you how to enter the Plane of Fire.

[Role Meggido]

I remembered this quest and the doll, but there was something different about it.

Looking back it appears that the text of the quest has changed.

OLD QUEST TEXT -----------------------------------------------

>What is big mistake?

Kaglari makes Urako clean his kwarters.
He says nots to open closet.
Me make mistake and opens his closet and out comes da skeletons.
Dey runs out into Grobb.
Me needs ta gets dem back before Kaglari finds out.
Me needs sumwun to [collect Kaglari skeletons].

>I collect Kaglari skeletons

Tank you!! Dere is fours of dem.
You can finds dem here in Grobb.
I no tink dey will want to come homes to Kaglari’s closet.
You ask dem to [come back to the closet] and see whut dey say.
If you gets back me promise to give you a [Kaglari Mana Doll].

OLD QUEST TEXT -----------------------------------------------

Full text from ( http//www.tokyo2001.com/game/eq/quest/grobb/grobb06.html )

I wouldn't presume to speak definitively, but it certainly appears that this quest was changed, possibly with PoP, so it may still be of value.

[Forty]

Nice find! Being a Barbarian Shaman I had never done the quest but knew of the dolls.

[EnragedFilia]

how couls rizlona be necessary to access sol ro? im pretty sure that sol ro was dead for a week or three before rz was killed the first time (back when the encounter was too bugged to beat legit) if rizlona is in water foh couldnt have even seen it before they took sol ro the first time back in october or november.

[Demorgoth]

1: Rizlona is IN Temple of Sol Ro

2: Temple of Sol Ro minis (Rizlona, Jiva, etc) are accessable after killing Tallon, Vallon, Saryn and Marr IIRC.

3: You cannot get access the area to kill Sol Ro (the god) without killing Rallos

4: You don't need to kill Sol Ro to get into Plane of Water.

5: This is all irrelevent to this quest or tradeskills. The book details that you have to kill (and collect flags) from all 5 minibosses in ToSR before you can get in to kill Sol Ro.

[murgatroyde]

You know - the suction cups off the giant krakens in powater could be construed as being tray- or platter-like. Anybody tried those out in combination with the powater foods?

Grongl

[Moosius]

Someone with the supplies might want to test out some combines with smithing components from POWater to make a platter. here are just a few ideas off top of my head:

e'cian ice + chisel = e'cian metal bits
e'cian metal bits + povarian mist temper + some type of mold = ?
e'cian metal bits + water + some type of mold = ?
e'cian metal bits + suction cups + file = ?
e'cian metal bits + flask of pure water + some type of mold = ?

possibly a pottery made item using essense of bristlebane (whatever its called), laquered peridot (peridot seems to be tied in to bristlebane for imbues)....

just some suggestions for folks trying to test some combines.

Regardless of these guesses, i tend to think that possibly the answer to this quest is the simplest answer (whatever that might be)... Lesson to be learned from the Valdanov Zeefer quest that stumped so many people for so long, the quest was actually alot more simple than everyone thought. Some over sight lead to alot of wild stabs in the dark to solve the quest, and in the end, was just your basic Verant quest model. Kill kill kill til you find what you need.

Just some thoughts... the word "platter" indicates to me a multitude of foods to eat, so could possibly be multiple foods made from POWater zone combined with a platter... some rare drop off the Regrua in water that gives a clue to the haflings fate (which just hasnt been found yet).

hope this helps give some people some more ideas.

[mepper]

Just cause I like to beat dead horses,

Trina the slow hobbit returned both a grow and componentless lev potion.
Silly hobbit..she could have gotten that tray!

edit: another clue for Bregna's quest has appeared on the Safehouse!
http://pub146.ezboard.com/fthesafehousefrm13.showMessage?topicID=6291.topic

[EnfinitiStarr8]

Hello? Anyone left here or are we all too fed up with this quest? Anyone find any new info, do any of the other Aid Quests? Anything :?:

[Forty]

I've been trying to follow paper trails to see if anything came up.

Waterlogged Journal (listed as CLR) drops in InnySwamp off Leatherhide. I have yet to get on to see if there is any text.

No idea about the Large Greasy Spoon yet.

And no new real infomation of the continuation of the Aid quests.

There is still the possibility that the final item/clue drops off a mob that has yet to be killed. There is still one last mob that hasn't been killed by anyone. The boss, just before Coirnav, in the script is a Regrua. /shrug

I've tried various "plates" from PoInnovation in the Wok recipe and came up with a lotta DNC's.

Going to try various Alchemy items just in case the tray is based off of the Woven Mandrake/basket stuff (along with using as many different bonings etc..) when I get time.

[HeadISBAgent]

I think the simplest answer is the right one. Because this Halfling Cleric was slain in the PoW, I'm quite sure that a book with the recipe or further hints towards this quest can be found either on a specific mob (albeit rare drop) or spawned on the ground in the PoW. You should concentrate your search in PoW as indicated, furthermore the rare item that this Halfling was searching for may be involved in making the platter or with the quest.

[Emelyn]

Can someone explain the flags needed a bit more clearly? For example, the quest page says that for the second part you need Terris Thule - does that mean you need entry to Terris Thule's lair (ie, PoNB flag), or that you have to have killed Terris Thule?

I'm GMed in 4 tradeksills, but smithing is not one of them yet, only 201 in smithing. When I do hit the required smithing level, I suspect my lack of flags will hold me up. I'm flagged for PoNB, CoD via quest only (not grummus kill), PoV/PoS and BoT.

The way I read the quest page, once I do have the smithing, my quest only CoD flag isn't going to get him talking. Is this correct?

Part of why I'm asking, my guild has a joint raid for Grummus planned in a few weeks. Each guild can only bring a max of 36 people. I have the feeling my guild leader is thinking that since I'm already CoD flagged via quest, I don't need to go on this trip to make room for others. I want to understand this better so I can explain it to him.

Thanks

[Quaras]

You need to explain to your guildleader that if you are flagged only by quest, you cannot progress further into the planes without going back and getting the kill flag. For instance, lets say your guild wanders through COD and kills Bertoloxxus, you will be unable to progress with them past Berty until you go back and kill Grummus. The new raid rules that allow 85% of a raid to be flagged and the other 15% to be unflagged would not really help you because if you go LD and drop the raid, you will be instantly ported back to the Plane of Tranquility with no ability to get back to your raid in progress.

As to the Aid Grimel quest, I would use that as a secondary argument, but would focus the primary argument on not getting left behind. The quests were very foolishly designed and basically all of the flags eventually require a raid force.

I still have no idea what to think on the Aid Grimel Quest -- but working on getting my first flags so that I can start the Smithing bits!

[Naedayr]

I think everyone is reading too much into the halfling slain in the powater stuff. Unless an actual recipe drops off Cornaiv (which if it does and takes a loot spot, expect screaming) no printed recipe exists. It is more likely that the text from Aid Grimel is a 'hint' like the text of the hero sandwhiches was a 'hint'. The problem is Aid Grimels hint doesn't help at all. The sandwhich hint at least explains what items to try '3 different types of hero meat', that narrowed the things to try down a bit. It might sound odd to complain about this but there are millions of combines you can 'try' using just food items, because aid grimel doesn't explain anything about what is in the platter. Then you have the problem of the actual platter. Is there one or not, no one playing knows.

I'm a little bitter about this quest atm, the sixth earring is nice, but without a level seven earring it's annoying. Moreso when the logistics of 'guessing' the right combine is so staggering. It really annoys me that I and others worked hard to get all the items and skills up to the sixth step, and we are now reduced to guessing which things to combine.

[Taraddar]

Can someone explain the flags needed a bit more clearly? For example, the quest page says that for the second part you need Terris Thule - does that mean you need entry to Terris Thule's lair (ie, PoNB flag), or that you have to have killed Terris Thule?

I'm GMed in 4 tradeksills, but smithing is not one of them yet, only 201 in smithing. When I do hit the required smithing level, I suspect my lack of flags will hold me up. I'm flagged for PoNB, CoD via quest only (not grummus kill), PoV/PoS and BoT.

The way I read the quest page, once I do have the smithing, my quest only CoD flag isn't going to get him talking. Is this correct?

Part of why I'm asking, my guild has a joint raid for Grummus planned in a few weeks. Each guild can only bring a max of 36 people. I have the feeling my guild leader is thinking that since I'm already CoD flagged via quest, I don't need to go on this trip to make room for others. I want to understand this better so I can explain it to him.

Thanks

Don't take this the wrong way but if you have to worry about getting a flag from a grumms kill or if it means killed terris thule or access to terris thule in PoNb then this probably isn't the quest for you.

The level of the flags you need quickly rises and you need at least 3 or 4 steps on the earring before it's even worth considering wearing.

As far as i know the flags are always having killed said mob and sometimes require going threw the flagging diolgue afterwords so TT flag would the flag from having killed terris thule.

[Demorgoth]

Agree totally with you there Naedayr. I've spent literally several days /played chasing my tail on this darn earring. I don't mind putting in the work, but the way the quest is so openended and with so little to go on, means we really have no clue whether we're looking in the right direction.

[Gorgin]

I agree with both of you, I've tried so many different things that I don't think the quest is implemented for this step. I've spent 8+ hours on a SoS rogue exploring every inch of water(very small zone) and done countless off the wall combines that all resulted in nothing, I think there is probably a platter that has to be used in the combine but have had no luck with various recipes that I think could yield a combine. Until Verant or a Verant spokesman says something I've quit trying to work on the quest, it's frustrating to get so far and then get to the end of the path only to find you've walked off into a ravine ala Wile E Coyote in the Roadrunner cartoons, if someone solves this I'll quite honestly be amazed.

[Forty]

Haha, now wouldn't it be funny if you needed to use items from Bristlebane's Bundle (http://lucy.fnord.net/spell.html?id=1681&source=Live) in the combine.

umm, hmm....naw.

[Shortyrez]

Has anyone been able to try using E'cian ice to see if they can make a tray of some sort?

[Forty]

Now that AL killed Coirnav, need to see if any new items (other than what was listed in Lucy) pop up.

[Yokatsu]

Someone in this thread mentioned that so far this quest is related to PoP only, and not with old world quests. This is more than likely true, but because it's related to new stuff doesn't mean it can't be similar to old stuff.

For those of you who did your Shawl quest, you will remember having to run around EW near the ramp to Kael trying to 'stumble' on to a dorf so you can give him a potion to gate safely home.

For those who have done their coldain ring quest, you'll remember having to go in to Kael to say a magic phrase to spawn a dorf and rip his head off. There is a Skyshrine quest for an earring that requires you to say a phrase in DN to get some items to spawn on the ground in a specific area.

Perhaps the key to figuring out the baking part of this quest may be the need to do one or both of these things in PoWater. It's possible that the little halfling cleric wasn't smushed after all, but is in hiding waiting for someone to rescue her.

If I was a rogue I'd try it myself, but since I'm not maybe one of you rogue types out there can try swimming low to the ground in the regua area while spamming various key phrases. Perhaps you might 'stumble' on to her and/or she'll 'hear' you and finally reveal herself.

Let us know what you find out :)

[Forty]

Anyone have any idea what a Essence of Water (http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=16265) might be used for. Not a magic item and doesn't have stats. Just hoping this isn't something used for this quest I guess...

[Naedayr]

It's the shield item, like the one from killing fennin, or xegony. Used for key to time supposedly.

[Forty]

Yes, I got the Sphere and the Essence mixed up. It's a Monday... =/

I have the Globe from Fennin, just a tad brain dead I guess.

Other Essences (Essence of Wind, Essence of Fire) are listed in Lucy but came from a source on Test. /shrug

[Virael Mikain]

the "Essence of ______" is for the follow-up to the Aid Eino quest.

[Hethral]

Has anyone tried handing that halfling who's reaching for a platter any of the various smithed shields? You'd think they'd make nice platters, good curve on em to hold the food.

[Darvax]

I know its a long shot but I stumbled onto "Card of Bristlebane" on a vendor that someone sold. Looked on lucy and says its a combinable item and seems to be a recently added one too. Ive personally never seen or heard of this. Maybe is for Platter recipe? Just a guess, can anyone verify what its for?

Lucy link for item is
http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=65334

[Gorgin]

It's for the new "priest" research.

[Wendolyn]

I am betting the 5th earring trivial rate is set way too high on tunic. My tradeskill mule went like this:

Smithing (220 + 5%): 1/1
Brewing (250): 1/1
Jewelcraft (250): 1/1
Pottery (250): 1/1
Tailoring (243 + 5%): 1/6
Fletching (235 + 5%): 1/1

And after reading through the posts here and in the last thread, it seems other people have had similar experiences.

Something is definitely bugged with that tunic, IMO.

edit: also, might want to update the quest page -- clockwork grease is combined in small jar, not medium. And the final bow combine requires a planing tool. Great work on the compilation!

Back to scouring for the recipe.

[jugador]

i had no troubles with the tunic 242+5%: 1/1

Had jeweling at 220+5% and failed about 4 rings in a row, similar experience with fletching 220+5% failed 5 or so.
Obviously its easier at 240+5% (believed max skill) so can't take those into account much.

I'd just guess that some have had bad luck with the tunic, or its at a ~40% success rate.

[Khoren Stonefall]

Pottery (250): 1/1
Tailoring (243 + 5%): 1/6
Fletching (235 + 5%): 1/1

And after reading through the posts here and in the last thread, it seems other people have had similar experiences.

Something is definitely bugged with that tunic, IMO.

You were probably just roughly as unlucky with the tailoring as you were lucky with the fletching. I've done loads of fire tailoring, and fire robes are just plain hard. Based on what other people have said about their success rates on the quest combines, I'm betting the robe and bow have the same rates as their non-quest counterparts.

The lower tier PoP recipes are softcore in general--they have really low failure rates at 250 skill. Most of us has gone 1/1 on each of the first four parts, though now and then someone reports a failure. The higher tier tailoring, fletching, and smithing ones (we have sort of limited experience with pottery though it doesn't seem as hard as the others, and JC mastery has comparatively trivialized jewelling regarldess) all seem to have savage failure rates. I was 1 for 3 on the quest air bow (and 1 for 3 on the three combines where I forgot the signet /cough), as I recall, and 1 for 2 on the tunic. In general I'm around 2 for 5 on tailoring from earth/fire/air (/rude slarghilug slime), and if I got my counting right, I'm 18 for 51 on bows.

On the other hand, both you and Molasar got nailed on robes, and I haven't yet heard of anyone getting quite so owned on bows. On the bright side, though, fire tailoring is much easier to do solo or in a partial group than air fletching. :)

[Forty]

I've gone 1/1 on most of the combines while going 1/2 for the robe and 1/2 for the bow.

My success rate for the normal bows started out so low that I reliquished bow duty for my guild and started letting the rangers do most of the attempts. The Rangers have had a higher success rate then I have (I'm Shaman). I've also stopped doing most JC work as JCM3 kicks my a** to the point of *almost* being overpowering, hehe...

On the other hand, I've had very good success making Earth/Fire silks with failures being somewhat rare.

[Niami DenMother]

edit: also, might want to update the quest page -- clockwork grease is combined in small jar, not medium. And the final bow combine requires a planing tool. Great work on the compilation!

Thanks for the corrections/updates! They're fixed on the site now.

[Kronepsis]

edit: also, might want to update the quest page -- clockwork grease is combined in small jar, not medium. And the final bow combine requires a planing tool. Great work on the compilation!

Oooooo...editing.

[Zaephod]

**********DISCLAIMER**********
The following information is like 3rd hand and not verified
*******************************

I was asking a friend of mine to keep an eye out for anything that sounded remotely close to a Bristlebane Party Platter and he mentioned that he thinks his raid to Basition of Thunder might have looted soemthing long those lines on their way to the nameds. I hate to say it but he's pretty sure it (whatever it happened to be) was destroyed as "Junk Loot". Having never been to the Bastion of Thunder i'm not exactly sure what he is talking about but I figured somebody might know and the information might be of use. Has anybody done some serious hunting in BoT? Might be worth a look...
Zaepho
51st Wizzy of Tunare

[Demorgoth]

I spent a LONG time hunting in BoT when we first got there, before it became over populated. It's either an obscenely rare drop that hasn't even made it onto either Lucy or Magelo yet, or your friend was very much mistaken.

Grimel says a female halfling cleric went to Plane of Water for a rare componant. That to me does not say, 'Go to pre-elemental Bastion of Thunder and get a tradeable drop of the complete platter'

[Gorgin]

For some reason I think his friend is thinking about the "Card of Bristlebane". It's a brand new research item and I could easily see it being confused with the platter due to Bristlebane's name in it. I've had like 4 guildmates of mine all show the card to me thinking it's what I was looking for.

[Shaman Arriana]

Something Ashur wrote in the first thread when he checked out the baking step:


My baking skill is sub-200 and Aid Grimel tells me if he wanted bad food he'd go back to Rivervale and eat some of that slop Ella passes off as fine cuisine; and to come back when I have mastered the frying pan.

Perhaps Ella has some insight into the recipe.

[khalysta]

ella foodcrafter is a quest npc for druid/ranger epics. I tried talking to her but she wont respond to anything I try. She is also a follower of karana since when you hail her she mentions karana so not consistent with the bristlebane text. I think the answer is something more along the crab cracker where the recipe was from another quest like maybe the councilwoman has some info if you help her out.

[Niami DenMother]

The female halfling cleric mentioned was a quiet salute to me by the dev team. Unfortunately, that reference doesn't come with any extra knowledge or insight into the recipe.

I was told that this recipe was meant to be akin to the hero sandwich recipe, which took a bit of digging and a LOT of baking experimentation, to come up with the working recipe. The impression I got from the brief comments regarding this one was that there was no in-game source for the exact recipe, and it was going to require folks start mucking with various ways to prepare some of the planar drops.

[Demorgoth]

Thanks for the info Naimi. That's gonna save us a LOT of time, now we can focus our efforts in one direction.

[Forty]

Yes, thank you.

We at least still know that the "rare" component came from Plane of Water.

[Lilosh]

The female halfling cleric mentioned was a quiet salute to me by the dev team. Unfortunately, that reference doesn't come with any extra knowledge or insight into the recipe.

I was told that this recipe was meant to be akin to the hero sandwich recipe, which took a bit of digging and a LOT of baking experimentation, to come up with the working recipe. The impression I got from the brief comments regarding this one was that there was no in-game source for the exact recipe, and it was going to require folks start mucking with various ways to prepare some of the planar drops.

Wow, what a compliment. Too bad you got eaten by a Regrua. :(

/mourn Niami


-Lilosh

[Forty]

And me being me......

Based on the general comments, the recipe could include a combination of several finished products made from the planes or it could simply use Cracked Reruga Meat as it's common base (like Hero Parts). Or be like the MTP were you have PoP based drink and food used in the final combine.

[ceno65]

great no in game recipe! ghey!





p.s.
if the rare component is these suction cups, theres no way in hell ill ever see 3 of them
http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=21744

[CaiserSoze]

Couple of updates on Step 1

1) Skill of 214 + a 15% mod confirmed to work to receive quest, Vaslin was able to start his at this skill, and now has 3rd ear complete.... looks like it most likely requires something along the lines of 220 unmodified, or 230 modified... geerlock won't cut it, but as with ethereal bricks, a higher mod% will.

2) Cleaning the breasplate trivial confirmed at 227. I realized the extreme ease of skilling up by cleaning bps at 226, unfortunately, I got a trivial message as soon as I got a point - did not do further testing for trivial on tempering the bp, as I had no tempers to test with - missing only drops of pure rain for..umm...bout 8 or so tempers.

3) Sacred waters - these appear to be...umm...a feminine canine =) unless I'm totally missing an easy way to get these, ya need more than just a single group to work the camps, as the entire camp appears to be linked to the proper model dudes - monk worked for a bit the other night trying to pull em, couldn't split em off, had to clear from the outside in, which, with a pretty solid group of 65s, took nearly until respawn to clear enough to pull 2 yellow named (couldn't split) that hit 700s and were unmezzable... haven't done extensive testing on that yet, but looks like you need 2-3 groups to be able to mow through them effectively enough to get enough sacred waters in a reasonable amount of time..one group could handle it, carefully, once they get the hang of pulling and split the spawns, etc..... but those guys are rough enough that one mistake or LD, and odds are you'll get wiped or have to zone/evac, and you'll end up messing up respawn time on the mobs...... all the mobs there seem to have way too many hp for their level, exp is comparable to back caves per mob, but I'd estimate 2-3x the hp per mob, or way higher regen rate... either way, those guards take far too long to kill compared to other zone mobs that give the same exp.

[Kronepsis]

Couple of updates on Step 1

1) Skill of 214 + a 15% mod confirmed to work to receive quest, Vaslin was able to start his at this skill, and now has 3rd ear complete.... looks like it most likely requires something along the lines of 220 unmodified, or 230 modified... geerlock won't cut it, but as with ethereal bricks, a higher mod% will.


Is it also possible that it is letting him do it simply because he acquired a +15% skill mod item? That is, perhaps whatever code is used to check skill ignores skill mods of 5%?

[ceno65]

i think you need a raw skill of 220 to get the dirty BP

pretty sure aid grimel ignores skill mods

at 217 w/ 15% mod he wouldnt give me the BP
at 220 he did !

[ceno65]

if your after the water from pov, get a monk to split the 2 mobs in the big building near zone in

ive only seen water drop from the "buzzlightyear" models

2 spawn in that building, easy to spilt w/ a fd'er

if a midget sized "buzzlightyear" spawns, they are flagged immune to slow and you need some steady healing


on average, id guess 1 water from 10 of them


while waiting for the 2 "buzzlightyears" to repop we pulled from the tents
best way to single them was to pull a truck load of them and root the "buzzlightyears' ... then zone .. hopefully in time to get them single before the root broke

[Kronepsis]

i think you need a raw skill of 220 to get the dirty BP

pretty sure aid grimel ignores skill mods

at 217 w/ 15% mod he wouldnt give me the BP
at 220 he did !


*Sigh*

Removing conflicting add until I can get more confirmation for either one.

[Nyteshadow]

3) Sacred waters - these appear to be...umm...a feminine canine =) unless I'm totally missing an easy way to get these, ya need more than just a single group to work the camps, as the entire camp appears to be linked to the proper model dudes - monk worked for a bit the other night trying to pull em, couldn't split em off, had to clear from the outside in, which, with a pretty solid group of 65s, took nearly until respawn to clear enough to pull 2 yellow named (couldn't split) that hit 700s and were unmezzable... haven't done extensive testing on that yet, but looks like you need 2-3 groups to be able to mow through them effectively enough to get enough sacred waters in a reasonable amount of time..one group could handle it, carefully, once they get the hang of pulling and split the spawns, etc..... but those guys are rough enough that one mistake or LD, and odds are you'll get wiped or have to zone/evac, and you'll end up messing up respawn time on the mobs...... all the mobs there seem to have way too many hp for their level, exp is comparable to back caves per mob, but I'd estimate 2-3x the hp per mob, or way higher regen rate... either way, those guards take far too long to kill compared to other zone mobs that give the same exp.

This is easily doable with one group, provided you have a slower and a tank and a cleric.... OH.. AND a bard that knows his stuff... and even without a bard, can be done, you just need to pull near the building by the zone in, and have the puller use the zone out to split the guys, just hail the named "puffy armor guys" to keep them in place while the others leave :) Since they are all nuetral faction there is no real danger to the party while the puller zones :)

[Gorgin]

I got every part of the quest at exactly 220 when I was working on it(towards the very very beginning of it being found). The only exception to that rule was my brewing which was 250. I got each skill to 220 and would get that aspect of the quest, I couldn't get it at 219 or below with 5% mods, I don't see how someone could get the quest sub 220 with any kind of mods unless the quest was changed recently.

[lyandras]

A guildmate of mine and I have both gotten the dirty breastplate in the last couple of days with smithing skill of 210 plus geerlock. It seems to be a modified skill now of 220 for him to talk to you. I did first 2 parts at Smithing 210, and Brewing 212. Breastplate still trivials out at 227.

[Kronepsis]

All right. This was obviously a stealth change then :P

[Taadieri]

Stealth change, or bug? I wouldn't be too surprised if it goes back to requiring 220 unmodified skill after a future patch.

[Forty]

Is anyone actively working on the final recipe and is there anything I can do to help narrow the search down? If so, let me know either here or through PM.

[Shortyrez]

This information may be redundant, but trying sorta blindly to figure this out =/ Using PoWater drops/fishing this is what I came up with. I'm not mainly a baker so excuse me if the combines aren't very sensible.

Resulted in DNC:
giant halibut + fileting knife in oven
giant snapper + fileting knife in oven
giant halibut + creamy fennel sauce in oven
giant snapper + creamy fennel sauce in oven
giant halibut + filleting knife + root + celandine herb in tackle box
giant snapper + filleting knife + root + celandine herb in tackle box
giant halibut steak + creamy fennel sauce in oven
giant snapper steak + creamy fennel sauce in oven
giant halibut + batwing in oven
giant snapper + batwing in oven
triloun tail soup + bucket of crab legs + giant halibut + giant snapper in oven
triloun tail soup + bucket of crab legs + giant halibut steak + giant snapper steak in oven
triloun tail soup + bucket of crab legs + giant halibut + giant snapper + giant halibut steak + giant snapper steak in oven

Now, can anyone tell me if slarghilug parts drop in Plane of Water? I assume these were from Plane of Nightmare but I could be wrong (we haven't hunted enough in PoWater honestly)

Tomorrow I'm gonna fiddle around for a few hours to try and get some sort of tray through smithing, as that could be the key part.

Another note...this may be redundant but I didn't see it posted anywhere. It caught my attention that Aid Grimel mentions the trays are too big to carry around well, so I automatically assumed they would be giant sized. Sure enough, the satchel he gives you to combine them in accepts giant sized items. Not sure that this info is really good for anything ;>

[Krellyn]

Has anyone tried combining all the current PoP miraculous meals yet?
Triloun tail soup, Tormentor stir fry, Slarghilug stuffed poppers, Bucket of crab legs, Justice fruit pie, Hero sandwich, and Boar chops? Don't currently have access to all of these atm (Only at pottery step and baking skill not up to snuff yet). And if not just these maybe adding misty thicket picnic and halas meat pie.
Just thinking it probably is a combination of current foods vice a completely new set items.

Krellyn

[Iustus]

Triloun tail soup, Tormentor stir fry, Slarghilug stuffed poppers, Bucket of crab legs, Justice fruit pie, Hero sandwich, and Boar chops in planar oven = DNC

nice guess though

-I

[Lilosh]

Anyone wanna try pulling Aid Grimmel out of PoK, into another zone, and seeing if he Drops the recipe?



-Lilosh

(And yes, I am joking.)

[EnfinitiStarr8]

I've been thinking about this quest and here are a few idea's to ponder;

1. You need a platter, tailoring made the Baskets, maybe pottery will have the platter. I was thinking smithing but a nice glass/ceramic platter makes more sense to my pastry chef side.

2. You might need a drink. The MTP have a drink and the only new brewing items that are not tempers are "twice brewed constitutional" that is already used in this quest, "planar blood brew" that is in another quest but who knows, or "vegetable oil" that is old but finally has a use (I don't think it would be this).

2.1 But again my Pastry Chef mind says no drink would be on a platter, a platter is for serving, not caring around and eating off of...then again, this is EQ.

3. Platters are usually finger food or meals made smaller, like finger sandwichs and such, maybe we should try breaking down an item or two like "Slices of Cake" we could have "Hero Finger Sandwich" that would have 1/10th the stats of the whole.

I know it's a lot to try and do but it's better then nothing, just hope something comes from it. Good luck!

[Forty]

I've tried the Hero Sandwich in the oven (thought the samething about the finger food...DNC).

Other possible thought is that we are focusing on the "Platter" when we should be looking at the "Party". /shrug

I've tried using the various meats and items I have recieved from PoWater and using them in place of the Hero Parts for the Smoked/Spiced recipe. DNC.

[Forty]

Ok, working off the fact that we haven't seen anything from the Plane of Earth thought I might try the various items like "enchanted ball of clay", "magical bark", "Large chunks of clay" and the "magically enforced branch". Used the scupture tools and water flask as well as a "Flask of Pure Water" I got from PoAir, but got DNC for everything. We have yet to see a Shattered Cyrstal drop so I was unable to try using the Earth glaze.

My thinking was that since the quest took us to Fire and Air, and the baking was pointing us towards Water that maybe the "tray" would be made from Plane of Earth items.

I haven't tried using the items with vendor sold sketches yet.

Haven't tried using a single Justice Fruit Pie to see if it can be sliced liike the cake either....

Poppers, Pie and Surprise seem like they would be a good fit for a party platter. (My server seems to have trouble making the poppers)

[Forty]

Ok, time to overanalyze the recipe or lack thereof.....

In most, if not all, cases the recipes have had some connection to the title, such as Misty Thicket Picnic using Jumjum (err) stalk, cake and drink, Sacred water being found on followers of MM....ok, so what in PoP has anything to do with Bristlebane?

Bristlebane is the King of Thieves (and practical jokes)....what connection to PoP does he have that could be used for the recipe?

Halfling meat + Large Brine Shrimp (Large Sea Monkey)?

[Lilosh]

Ok, time to overanalyze the recipe or lack thereof.....

In most, if not all, cases the recipes have had some connection to the title, such as Misty Thicket Picnic using Jumjum stack, cake and drink, Sacred water being found on followers of MM....ok, so what in PoP has anything to do with Bristlebane?

Bristlebane is the King of Thieves (and practical jokes)....what connection to PoP does he have that could be used for the recipe?

Halfling meat + Large Brine Shrimp (Large Sea Monkey)?

Thieves backstab. Any backstabbing MoBs in Water? Any pickpocketing MoBs anywhere? Any halfling MoBs in water?

Anyone have Bristlebanes phone number?


-Lilosh

[Forty]

766-7825

No one is home.

[Unidin]

thought it was 867-5309

[Forty]

hehe

[Forty]

Backstabbing, pickpocketing Sea Monkeys that like to party?

[Chenier]

Backstabbing, pickpocketing Sea Monkeys that like to party?
Okay, you people have officially lost it. =)

[EnfinitiStarr8]

Okay, you people have officially lost it. =)

This coming from the druid who snares/roots DoTs, and DDs with CUPCAKES?! :P At this point, watch it be a group spawn...(Is there ground in PoWater?)

[Chenier]

This coming from the druid who snares/roots DoTs, and DDs with CUPCAKES?!
and fairly impressively, I might add.../snicker =)

forgive the thread hijack...

[Tildareon]

Found a lice ridden carapace or something like that in pow, We have a master looter and seemingly he thought it of little use GG destroy button, could be the platter that everyones looking for, anyone else seen one? Seeing as it dropped off the regura's that supposedly ate up naiomi hoping that perhaps you hand that into fimli and he say's Goodness gracious that's exactly what I have been looking for take blah blah and blah blah to clean up the platter and you are well on your way ! ......of course when has VI been known to be so straightforward......

[Wendolyn]

The carapace is a rare drop that only comes off the Ancient Regura, who is one of the hardest trash mobs you'll ever meet in the game. Those of us in the guild who are familiar with this quest have speculated it might be used for the platter, but so far no luck.

Also, I have an unstackable "crab meat" from water which I have not had a chance to test out with combines:

http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=21747

It was given to me after a raid, so I don't know what mob it came from (I didn't even remember seeing it looted).

Given this is possibly the last step of the quest, I would not be surprised if the components for this platter were indeed off raid-required mobs (or at least a large force). My guild has pretty much farmed most of PoWater many times over... so I don't think there are any items that exist in the zone that are undiscovered. We should try to test out the carapace and that crab meat, along with various other drops in the zone. The thing that irks me though is no recipe is available in the game (or at least hasn't been found). Par for the course I suppose though on a quest like this. I guess we should be happy for now it's working up to the 6th step.

[Gorgin]

the carapace can be dropped by any Regrua, I have 2 in the bank and have been trying to combine them with various ores, metals(silver, gold ect) enchanted and unechanted and even tried cleaning it with the acid wash used in step 1 of the quest with the BP, none of these thigns have been successful as of yet =*(

[Forty]

I too have several in bank that were dropped off regular Regura's and seems to be an uncommon drop for them. I've also tried the acid wash and using them in the Wok recipe but have had no luck to date. I'll try turning it in to Grimel to see if there is a reaction.

I have about a full bag of unstackable crab meat and have tried them in various recipes (as a substitute for Hero Parts etc...) and have yet to find a combine. Although that doesn't mean I tried ever possible combine cause I ain't that smart. =/

The basket and spool, in MTP, used alchemy components..tried a few and didn't have any luck.

Going to try using the Kelp and silk to see if there might be some other combine (ie..using two silks makes a swatch, maybe using three makes uber swatch).

[Jascenta]

Aid Grimel says 'When we adventure in the Planes there is only one meal that keeps us in top fighting shape. It is called a Bristlebane's Party Platter. Unfortunately the platter is awkward and not easy to adventure with so you need to place them in this satchel. I know not how to make the Platter, a rather nice female Halfling cleric always used to deliver them to us but I heard she was crushed by a Regrua while hunting for a rare component in the Plane of Water. Brell bless her soul! Combine three of the platters and the signet inside the satchel.'

What other mobs are around Regrua's? What items do they drop? He said she was crushed by a Regrua, doesn't necessarly mean it comes from one. What else is in the area where they are?

I kill the named often, but don't really pay attention to the mobs names, I spend most of my time watching hp bars.... Can someone give me an idea using the named mob names where these regrua's are? I guess next water raid I let people die to scope out stuff ;)

[Naedayr]

There is no in game recipe. None, it's not hidden on a mob, it's not from special text when you hail a goblin in runnyeye while charmed. It's just not there. The only way this will get solved is trial and error. That's *if* all the items being combined are even the right ones. There are probably one or two items that haven't been made yet, the platter for sure, that are used in the combine.

I understand hard work, but this idea of having to trial and error this quest is pretty ludicrous. For starters how many items do you have to combine? 5, 6, 7, 8? No one knows.

For the sake of argument lets say it's 8, like misty thicket picnic's. Take out one for the platter, that may or may not be used. That leaves you with seven items. The amount of combines you have to trial and error to get this recipe is staggering. You don't even know for sure what set of items to start with. Is it only pop baked items, or is there some non pop baked items.

Then you have the issue of is it only one of each item. What if one item has 2 in the combine? I just feel that this portion wasn't very well thought out as there is no clear indication of how many items are in the platter, let alone if you use a platter.

Anyway all that aside lets say there are 15 items to choose from, with 7 items making a combine (using the above, the platter is the 8th item, even though we don't know what it is or how to make it, it doesn't change anything if it isn't using 15 items), and each item is only used once.

15!/ (15-7)! * 7! = 6435 different combines. My math is probably way off here, but I don't think so. Anyway that's if it is 8 items used, and if your possible set is only 15 total items. Now since we don't even know which items might be in the combine, or how many of each might be in it, well. Were screwed.

[Shortyrez]

I gotta agree, it's pretty much crap because we have nothing to go on basically. The facts that we do know are pretty useless. We can assume we will be making an item called "Bristlebane's Party Platter" and that it is giant sized. Well wow, there's no precedent as to how many items it takes in a combine to make something giant sized so it could be any number. And "Bristlebane's Party Platter" doesn't exactly tell you what should be in it either. We can sit here and conjecture all day, but unless we have like 50+ people constantly trying all sorts of combines, the blind luck approach to this will never work.

To be honest with you, I've just about had it with this quest.

[brainiac2k]

10 pages is quite a bit to read, but i did the best i could...

picked this up off of dictionary.com:


plat·ter
n.
1. A large shallow dish or plate, used especially for serving food.
2. A meal or course served on a platter.


Seems that a platter can also be a meal, not the actual platter itself... This leads me to think the Bristlebane's party platter is actually a set of foods... Since PoWater was mentioned in the quest text, perhaps its several different foods from water?

I've noted 4 baked foods from water.. Triloun Tail Soup, and Bucket of Crab Legs... there are two more, the halibut and snapper which are fished from water. anybody tried various combinations of these finished products? Seems quite possible that thats what we're looking for...

Doesn't hurt to try :D

[Shortyrez]

Page 9, look at my DNC list =(

[Eldritch Soulpyre]

To narrow down the search for the recipie I found an old Jedi Trick.

Goto bazaar buy a Traders Pack put all your drops from the Elemental Planes in it. Set the price to 999999pp and put it up for trade.

Then goto your serch function in the /bazzar trader window and use the COMBINABLE tool to see if your items can be combined in a recipie or quest container.

You would be suprised what shows up and doesnt.

This isn't the Holy Grail but it can try to steer us in a better direction to the Baking recipie.

all i know is Crab Meat isnt combinable and either is bucket of crab legs

so i encourage everyone to try this out and maybe make a list and dont destroy or vender anything just in case VI decides to use something in a combine heh

I hope this help us because i would like this 7th earring too.

Good Luck!!

[CaiserSoze]

Aye, good idea - as long as a) the bazaar search works correctly when checking, we all know its buggy at times... and b) none of the needed items are no drop, since you can't put no drops up for sale...

Really hoping something turns up soon, working on gathering PoW drops & fish for testing myself, just need Sol Ro flag before I'll be at that step.. still think its a bit odd that you need to bag Rallos before Sol Ro, but you can get baking step before you kill Sol Ro, who is needed for steps 5 and 6... double confirmed it after I got Rallos flag and earring 4 - dont have the flaggage for Tailoring or Fletching steps, but do have required flags for Baking step... ya'd think they'd set the quest flag progression up to match planar progression...but well...we all know that the devs don't always think things through =) And no, its not a skill restriction, all skills at 250 now cept smithing, and I'm past that step already =)

[brainiac2k]

it was my understanding that combinable meant stackable ..

[Eldritch Soulpyre]

Well food stacks and it doesnt show up unless it excludes food.

[Forty]

Steel Boning, which stacks and is used in a quest, doesn't show up for me when I selected "combinable". /shrug

Two traders have Hobgoblin Meat (stackable/Combine) yet when I do a seach for "combinable" only one trader shows on the list.

[CaiserSoze]

one of the..umm... 'features' of the bazaar search is that not everything shows up...theres a limit to the number of returns on a search, which, for some odd reason, seems to vary - you can do a search for...say...blood, and see 1, or possibly no vendors for..say..storm rider blood... but narrowing the search to look for storm rider blood, suddenly 5 vendors show up... if you set all your items to an outrageously high price, then do a search for combinable items in a price range that should only include your items, then, in theory, any of your combineable items should show up, as long as you dont have too many different ones in stock...

[Farnyr]

I thought about using the "Combinable" technique before, but as I found out while doing my tailoring run, the bazaar is buggy. I would ask it to find Rockhopper and it would miss like 5 Superb Rockhopper dealers. Id ask it to find Acrylia and it would LITERALLY skip ALL the people selling small pieces of acrylia. I think there may be a Max return it can give you and anything else it just ignores. So it can list say 50 items, but the 51+ items arent displayed.

[Forty]

Well ok then.....List is long but not complete. And yes, I have all these on mules.

Combinable (Bazaar/Lucy verified)
Mud covered stones
Magical Bark
A ball of elemental clay
Magically enforced branch
Large chunk of clay
Pile of Woodchips
Armadillo Carapace
Burnt Silk
Charred Earth
Blood Red Gem
Grain of Living Earth
Marbled Rock Formation
Mephit Eyes
Iridescant Feather
Prismatic Feather
Smoldering Feather
Magnificent Thorax
Mephit Wings
Fire-veined Stone
Eternally Burning Embers
Orb of Eternal Flame
Molten Nightmare Hoof
Everburning Oil
Doomfire Sash
Doomfire Cape
Horn of the Fiend
Magnesium Powder
A Flaming Head
Sliver of Onyx
Flame Encased Feather
Flame Encased Mephit Wing
Kraken Meat
Hraquis Antennae
Small Mephit Fin
Large Mephit Fin
Regrua Claws
Fish Eggs
Kraken Suction Cups
Sparkling Fish Scales
Hraquis Tail
Gemmed Fin

Misc (Bazaar/Lucy verified)
Flask of Pure Water
Goldleaf Tiara
Links of Chain
Cracked Ornamental Epaulet
Shining Metallic Splinter
Luminous Bangle
Crab Meat
Parasite Infected Crab Carapace
Frog Skin
Frogs Feet

Combinable (No Bazaar listing/Lucy verified)
Dirt Clod
Dirt Covered Frogskin
Flaming Phoenix Crest
Fiery Mephit Talons
Chunk of Sulfur

Food (Bazaar/Lucy verified)
Cluster of Kelp
Large Brine Shrinp

Combinable/Misc (Bazaar Combine/Lucy Misc)
Filmy Mephit Wing

*corrected listing of Frog Feet =>Frogs Feet

[CaiserSoze]

hoo boy - I see a LOT of items in that list with no known combines.... so now the question, of course, is how many of those are accurately flagged as combinable and simply have no discovered recipe......or, how many thngs they simply put a combinable flag on *just in case* they came up with a recipe later.... =)

[jugador]

Sad to say but Combinable via bazaar flag means nothing. There's no way all of those PoP items are usable via recipes.

[Tildareon]

The more combines that I do, the more idiotic I feel....Thanks for this going no where Test recipie stuff, doesn't work....at least in real life when you mix up a fresh fish and a batwing you don't end up with fishrolls....
bristlebane is the prangster
HAHA jokes on us
:evil:

[Forty]

Yeah, I dunno...thought it was somewhat interesting that the Filmy Mephit Wing was listed as Combinable in bazaar but listed as Misc in Lucy. Not that it means anything though...

Still not seeing anything that points to Bristlebane in PoP. I'd like to think that the recipe uses items or has some meaningful connection to Bristlebane.

Hehe, unless the references to Niami DenMother and to Bristlebane were suppose to lead us back to this website....maybe the developers didn't stop at just a simple nod in game and actually used some of the recipes in the Real Life (http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/real_life_meals.htm) recipe forum. Cheesy Pot Pie is easily done in game. I mean, let's look at the fact that it's the last recipe in the most difficult tradeskill quest in the game. She was a Halfling Cleric that followed Bristlebane. And there JUST happens to be a seperate forum devoted to real life recipes from the players. Ok, you can stop laughing now....no really, stop.

[jugador]

Personally, I've really enjoyed this quest, and spending insame #s of hours working on skills to do it is alot of work. However, to see it end up in an open ended recipe that has no real direction is extremely disappointing. As pointed out earlier, we really have a multitude of possible recipes, and don't know if it includes or does not include (the platter): PoP baked goods, PoP misc drops, Other zone/expansion baked goods, etc. The possibilities are so endless, that having to completely GUESS the recipe with the only hint being that ONE of possibly 5+ ingredients comes from a large list of drops in PoWater is ludacris!
Having spent obscenes amounts of time on this quest and its requirements, solo and with my guild, it would just be nice to find some source of the recipe ingame, via quested or other....or a better direction with the recipe from Aid Grimel

I guess i'm not really trying to start a rant, but more say "ahhhhh i have no clue which angle to tackle all these combine possibilities!"

[Eldritch Soulpyre]

after i read the replies and tryed more items yea its not working as it should files wernt combinable heh

even petioned and asked they said yup thats how it works ~

but on that list frog feet is that frogs feet instead? gotten 2 on mule from frogs in pow

maybe it part of it well something else to do heh

[Forty]

You are correct. Should read as Frogs feet and made the change.

In the things that make you say "hmmm" catagory; I find it somewhat interesting that, with the except of Mephit meat and Pheonix Eggs, the only "food" items found in the Elemental Planes come from Plane of Water.

That gives us Mephit Meat, Phoenix Eggs and Fish Eggs that can be found in other non-Elemental zones.

Ok, there might be more I dunno. Our server went down giving me waaaaay too much free time.

[Chenier]

Forty,

Interesting thought about pointing back to eqtraders and perhaps Real Life recipes. Although the RL recipe threads have been around a long time, the web page has not, has it? Can anyone get a release date on the RL recipe pages?

***

And on the subject of only stackable things are combinable. Nope - lotsa things that aren't stackable are combinable, in both "regular" recipes and quest recipes. Think about all the smithing recipes that take bricks that aren't stackable. Think about all the tailoring recipes that used to use non-stackable pelts before they were stackable. Snow bunny meat - not stackable but as we all know a delicacy of them frozen dwarves...and so on and so on.

***

Keep going guys - I can only offer cheerleading from the side lines, so rah rah ree, kick'em in the knee! rah rah ras, kick'em in the...other knee!

[Forty]

Hehe, well I was kinda joking although I fully realize that this sort of thing happens all the time.

Only thread I could find was The REAL Misty Thicket Picnic (http://mboards.eqtraders.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1879) started Jan. 2, 2003, although I'm pretty sure there was another thread devoted to the recipes that were eventually used for the forum.

While the start of the quest might have been in-game long before the thread(s) started doesn't mean it couldn't have finished with these recipes or was changed to reflect them.../shrug

[Caladel]

Wish grimel would just give us some idea of wtf was on the platter. I mean he obviously ate the **** things he should atleast know what types of food, if it had a tray or not, if it had a drink or not etc.

Doesnt have to tell us the exact method of preparing each item on the platter....but if we atleast knew wtf was on it that would be somethign to go on, nailing a recipie at a time....

Even somethign like "Im not sure how it was prepared, but it consisted of 4 different food items and a drink, served on a silver tray"...would be immensely helpful at this point.

Even that would be a bit vague and still leave us thousands of possibilities.....but right now we have nothing.

--------------------

On a practical note....we know that there is no direct recipie in game. But, anyone ever ask your SOE contacts if there is a general form of the recipie in the game(IE 3 types of hero meat for hero sandwitch).

And if the answer to that is no, any way to get some convincing in ther eto get us some hint of wtf to do in the game?

Quests with no direction are not fun! Especially knowing the track record for broken quests / drops / triggers etc.

[Kaaba]

On the emulator, the bristlebane's party platter is summonable and has stats of +10 to all stats, +100 hp, +100 mana

[Kronepsis]

Looking at the DNCs, I think the guessing is going a tad off kilter at the moment. A party platter suggests finger food. Sooo...is anyone willing to try combinations of the following:

Bucket of Crab Legs
Buttered Crawdad
Candied Cockroach
Slarghilug Stuffed Poppers
Swamp Rat Crunchies
Hero Sandwich
Mephit Sandwich

(And some maybes)
Cracked Reruga Meat
Smoked Hero Parts
Spiced Hero Parts
Dressing.

Nothing else sounds even remotely like finger food, especially when you consider the ingredients. I'm guessing just as much as anyone else here, but I think scanning all planar drops for combinability is a bit excessive.

[Forty]

Hello, low Int Barbarian here....please explain the emulator thing a tad more please.

[Shortyrez]

On the emulator, the bristlebane's party platter is summonable and has stats of +10 to all stats, +100 hp, +100 mana

Are you serious? If so that leaves two possibilites.

(1) Someone that develops the emulator played a sick joke and decided to make a fake one with ridiculous stats to screw with us.

or (2) the platter in game is gonna require something insanely rare, as to keep people from actually eatting these, heh.

[Forty]

Insanely rare times three

[Tildareon]

fisheggs (foraged)
sauces,spices,salt
in a clay jar!

or not.....but these are the rediculous extents that im going too .....

[glicboomaker]

Does the fincal combine :

3 sacred waters + signet in the urn

is this combine no fail ? or does it use pottery skill and is trivial > 250 ?


Thanks in advance, cheers

Glic

[jugador]

I asked the same question a while back Glic, but have not heard of anyone failing the Sacred Water combine. I believe it to be no-fail ala glazes.

[Catranizi]

Guildie was able to get Grimel to talk to her at 194 smithing + 15% mod.

Closing in on 210, will check then with my puny 5% mod.

[Tildareon]

reconfirmed trivial on cleaning the dirty bp for this quest
(227) bummer, was a godsend while it lasted

[splunge]

Sounds to me the person who posted the thing about the emulator is just trolling, as they didnt not post any link, no weight, size, icon description, any other data and no information on how to reproduce the info.

That said, is there any combination of already known pop food items that ADD UP to +10 to all stats/resits and 100hp/mana?

[Amaruk]

Its very easy to get +10 to all stats and resists and the hp and mana with just a few items. The ONLY stat you can't raise with PoP food is Chr.

bucket of crab legs x 2
hero sandwich x 2

= +20 STR, +10 to all other stats but CHR, +140 hps, +140 mana, +10 all saves

Its a good thought though. I wonder if there is a recipie that gives a bunch of CHR or are we supposed to include a opal stein..

[Unidin]

crunchy!

[Chenier]

fisheggs (foraged)
sauces,spices,salt
in a clay jar!

or not.....but these are the rediculous extents that im going too .....
Tild - sounds like "cavier surprise"...

[Thorvari]

Is it possible that we are missing one of the dishes needed to make the Party Platter? Here is the item order from a list I have:

[list]ID,Name,Lore,Link
29779,Bucket,Bucket,http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=29779
29780,Bucket Mold,Bucket Mold,http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=29780
29781,Bristlebanes Party Platter,Bristlebanes Party Platter
29782,Karana's Heartfruit Salad,A tasty salad mixed by Mheii
29783,Rainwater Dressing,Rainwater Dressing
29784,Moonstone Tear,Moonstone Tear
29785,Palm Leaf Oil,Palm Leaf Oil
29786,Spiced Heartfruit Greens,Spiced Heartfruit Greens
29787,Emerald Leaf Greens,Emerald Leaf Greens
29788,Spiced Heartfruit,Spiced Heartfruit
29789,Knuckle Joint,Knuckle Joint,http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=29789
29790,Emerald Tea Leaf,Emerald Tea leaf,http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=29790
29791,Speckled Pine Fruit,Speckled Pine Fruit
29792,Waterleaf Scale,Waterleaf Scale,http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=29792
29793,Heartfruit Walnut,Heartfruit Walnut,http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=29793
29794,Palm Leaf,Palm Leaf
29795,Moonstone Crystal,Moonstone Crystal,http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=29795[/list:u]

[Thorvari]

Also, I don't see this item on the PoP forages list for Water, but it is the last item in a list of PoP foraged items from elsewhere (all the other PoP forages are numbered 12560-12585). Is this indeed a forage from PoWater?

12586,Large Brine Shrimp,Large Brine Shrimp,http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=12586

[Forty]

Yes, the Large Brine Shrimp I've obtained have come from Water.

[Quaras]

Has anyone tried smelting a golden Idol of Bristlebane down to create the raw materials for a party platter? Its odd, but could be an idea. Also, I do think that the shrimp looks like a good lead as to something that would be included with hors d'oeuvres.

[Kaaba]

Go play on the emulator yourself and verify if you like, I'm not trolling, I have no reason to, I'm just stating a fact that I was playing the other night on one of the servers and someone linked it so I summoned some to verify the stats and was using it as my food. /shrug believe it if you want to.

[jugador]

whats the graphic on the party platter on emulator look like?

[Forty]

Thorvari,

What are some of the items listed above 29779 Bucket? Could you maybe list 29750-29778 as well?

[Caladel]

Dont waste time on any emulator leads. Any item they have was made by them NOT by SOE.

They could make a 1000 damage 1 delay sword if they want, doesnt mean it has anything to do with the real game.

[Naechurman]

I would be surprised if someone hasn't thought of this yet, but after reading through 12 pages of posts I've seen no mention of this. If you stand on the table and look down at the platter it resembles a map. The platter itself has dots on it which make a 6x6 grid. The plate on the platter has a very odd design, and is also offcenter. Since the plate is blue, the 2 hunks of bread on the plate made me think of 2 islands, one larger than the other. The cup that's tipped over looks like it's a zone(?) connection to the plate, or possibly a secret area. I'm not sure if the stains on the platter and plate have any significance, or if it's just to add a little realism to the platter. Since I have not been anywhere beyond PoS/PoV I have no clue if this 'map' would look familiar to anyone who's been to the Elemental Planes, especially PoW. Hope this gives some of you another avenue to work with, and maybe it will actually lead somewhere. *shrug*
-Naechurman
62 Druid Innoruuk

[Shortyrez]

Dont waste time on any emulator leads. Any item they have was made by them NOT by SOE.

They could make a 1000 damage 1 delay sword if they want, doesnt mean it has anything to do with the real game.

Wrong, it has some information pulled from the real database as well. Like I said...it could have been programmed in by the developers of the emu as a cruel joke, but most likely I would guess it's actually the real item. I don't really see people that develop the emu wasting time looking at eqtrader forums to play pranks. Most of the people associated with it don't play on live servers anymore anyway.

If you can post a screenshot or give us a description of the icon for the platter, that would possibly help.

[Kaaba]

Here is a screenshot from the emulator, btw the item number is 29781, same as posted earlier from lucy

[Forty]

Looks like a casserole dish is being used, from that pic.

[Unidin]

little smaller pic from an emulator

[Forty]

So how to use this information???

As far as I can tell, it uses Casserole/Stir Fry graphics has a weight of 8.5 and is Giant.

Halas 10lbs Meat Pies are Giant but weight 7.5(?).

[Kahmon]

I doubt there is any way the real bristlebanes party platter will not be NO DROP. the one shown in the picture is droppable.

[Yalum]

Remember the patch message a few months ago that said something along the lines of "It is no longer possible to create item links without the item, try that again and we'll ban you"? That's was the emulator guys forcibly extracting the item database.

It's perfectly possible that that really is the party platter, and I don't see any reason to fake it. The more interesting information will be the names of the components, which are also in that db dump somewhere.

[Shortyrez]

Well I thought about it a bit, and I could see the party platter being droppable. If the items in the combine were rare enough it wouldn't make too big of a difference. You cannot MQ that step anyway, because you combine 3 in the satchel with your signet.

[Thorvari]

Forty,

Here are the items above Bucket in my list. It appears that these are the baking items that were put in with PoP. It seems like the items are put in in chunks, with similar purposed items and items used for the same quest getting consecutive IDs.

Looking at this list, it looks like they put in the final product, then the ingrediants to make it. This is why I think we might need to make a Karana's Heartfruit Salad to make the Platter.

[list]ID,Name,Lore
29742,Butter,Butter
29743,Mephit Meat Pie,Mephit Meat Pie
29744,Mephit Meat,Mephit Meat
29745,Phoenix Dough,Phoenix Dough
29746,Phoenix Egg,Phoenix Egg
29747,Slarghilug Stuffed Poppers,Slarghilug Stuffed Poppers
29748,Habanero Pepper,A Spicy Pepper
29749,Blood Raven Stew,Blood Raven Stew
29750,Blood Raven Parts,Blood Raven Parts
29751,Hobgoblin Surprise,Hobgoblin Surprise
29752,Hobgoblin Meat,Hobgoblin Meat
29753,Brown Gravy,Brown Gravy
29754,Justice Fruit Pies,Justice Fruit Pies
29755,Justice Fruit,Sweet fruit with quite a sour aftertaste
29756,Swamp Rat Crunchies,Swamp Rat Crunchies
29757,Swamp Rat Parts,Swamp Rat Parts
29758,Tormentor Stiry Fry,Tormentor Stiry Fry
29759,Bloody Tormentor Parts,Bloody Tormentor Parts
29760,Wok,Wok
29761,Clockwork Carapace,A good surface for stir fry
29762,Hero Sandwhich,Hero Sandwhich
29763,Hero Meat,Hero Meat
29764,Spiced Hero Meat,Spiced Hero Meat
29765,Smoked Hero Meat,Smoked Hero Meat
29766,Dressing,A mild oil and vinegrette
29767,Vann Toe Stew,Vann Toe Stew
29768,Vann Toes,Vann Toes
29769,Jord Meat Pie,Jord Meat Pie
29770,Jord Meat,Jord Meat
29771,Boar Chops,Boar Chops
29772,Boar Meat,Boar Meat
29773,Triloun Tail Soup,Triloun Tail Soup
29774,Triloun Meat,Triloun Meat
29775,Bucket of Crab Legs,Bucket of Crab Legs
29776,Cracked Regrua Meat,Cracked Regrua Meat
29777,Regrua Claws,Regrua Claws
29778,Crab Cracker,Crab Cracker[/list:u]