Fletching post 202

[Acacious]

Ive read many ways to raise the skill further, and I think Darkwood bows to around 235~ is the way I am going to go. About How muich plat will it take to go from 202-235~

obviously I need just a general #. It took me about 1.2K to get from 0-202

[Laspeera]

Trying to remember how cloudy my memory is here...

From 202-235 doing bows I believe I spent between 15 and 20k total. I did not do it all in one sitting and did not have buffs during all of the sittings I did.

[Merlman]

I just recently went from 202 to 215 using bows. With the new sellback nerf. I spent about 20-25kpp to get those points. Guess Ill spend some more cause I do not want to farm crap for this skill too. I still need to get blacksmithing and tayloring to 200, and that will be enough farming for me.

[Buchalter]

Since the "change" (cannot use the N-word ;) ) to the sellback price on bows I've switched to doing Acrylia Arrows. (Half-Elf so can't do Mithril) Granted it's more time consuming because of farming, but it's also MUCH cheaper. I've also noticed that I still get a fair amount of skill-ups from them. If money is an issue I'd recommend going this route.

[Dhomal the Scavenger]

Hello-

Yes, cash would be a big issue with me. :(

As odd as it seems too - I've known for almost a year that Fletching was to be the skill I wanted to GM. It all started about 10 - 30 days after Luclin came out. I was merchant mining in the Bazaar - before WE could be traders - and found an interesting item pop up - Condensed Shadow Arrowheads. I bough what was there - 3 of them - and could not find any info on what their exact use was (meaning recipie :) )- so - surmising that they were made with the chunks of condensed shadow i had seen all over the place - I started buying them up whenever I saw them. I think at this point I have about 25 stacks on a mule :) So - i was planning ahead :)

At this point I have actually made some of the arrows - but I have a Severe cashflow issue - and getting people interested in farming the Acrylia is not an easy task! :) So - my skill sits at 202 for the time being. :)

Oh - and I bought up about 15 of the Nightmarewood bow staffs in the Bazaar a coule weeks ago that someone was selling for 25 P each - hoping to make an attempt (to help the cashflow of course! ) - and then - Poof - cant try that quite yet now... Oh well - I still have the bow staffs :)

Dhomal the Scavenger
"Ah - I see now - well - I will have to go and 'find' some Acrylia now :) "

[Acacious]

Ack..the N word

maybe bows ARNT we way to go..*sigh*

[Greymantle]

Cheapest way post 202 is acrylia arrows where you farm the materials. Only things you have to buy are the nocks and fletch.SLOOOOWWW going though,as acrylia is not that easy to get in volume. This is the way i am going though, as i don't have multi K plat to spend doing bows. Not in any hurry myself as at 209 + geerlock i can attempt most anything with a fair chance at sucsess ;)

[Foog]

There are pretty much 3 viable routes as others have stated.

Darkwood bows then Shapedwood after dark trivial
Ends up being expensive but bows sell back for a helluva lot more than arrows.

Acrylia arrows
Cheapest route but if your server is anything like mine you can buy/farm condensed substances rather easily. But farming acrylia is a pain in the rear and there isn't much out there to buy when you are talking about 1000 plus combines depending on if you are trying for 250 skill or not.

Mithril arrows (non imbued work for skill ups)(must be woodelf)
Not cheap but cheaper than bows and all components can be bought. Although you need some smithing skill to smith the mithril into the components you will need.

Higgee 238 Fletching, 105 Pottery, 110 Brewing, 146 Smithing, 55 tailoring

[Gerail-Tunare]

on getting to 250:

to 235 from 205 it cost me nearly 1k per point doing darkwoods w/ store bought cams. After that I think it cost me about 10k to get to 250 on mithril arrows.

[TocapValdor]

Acrylia arrows for me, skill is 221

I buy small bricks of acrylia, 25-50pp each in bazaar.
I make 2 shaft.
Buy the condensed on vendors, 7gp each i think
I make 2 heads.
Buy the rest on regular vendor.

It cost less to do that, than doing 2 combines on BOWS at 221 skill. :D
I give the arrows to my friend ranger, or pass them down to a twink ranger.

[cshontz]

What was the mentioned change, or "nerf"? Can someone explain, or point me to a related URL or thread?

I'm a 204 fletcher. I hit a wall at 204 because I'm poor, and I do practically no adventuring.

I've been entertaining the notion of taking my fletching further, but I've never had over 1000pp at one time. I'm making a gnome to tinker cams, but I'm in uncharted territory. Never ever been anything but a Ranger.

[Greymantle]

A few patches back VI changed the sell back price on the bows. You used to be able to make a profit doing darkwood 2 cam bows, if you used tinkered cams. no more. Not sure of the differnce these days, but i think it is still cheaper to buy a small brick at 50p which give you 2 shafts for 2 attempts. Works out to under 26p per attempt and you can sometime sell the arrows if you don't use them. I THINK the sellback differnce is more than 26p per bow now.

[Tobin Itharel]

Mithril arrows (non imbued work for skill ups)(must be woodelf)
Not cheap but cheaper than bows and all components can be bought. Although you need some smithing skill to smith the mithril into the components you will need. Are we sure this would be cheaper then bows? If so, I think this would be the way I will go. Acrylia is just so hard to farm.

[Greymantle]

Hmm not being a woodie i never really paid that much attention to the mithril stuff. Can someone whom is a wood-elf fletcher please post the appoximate cost to make the mithril arrows? Curious as to how it compares to purchasing acrylia to make shafts.

Hmm just looked up the recipies, it does not list yields for the fletch and non-blessed arrowheads. If its two each that means for two chances you need 2 small mithral bricks, one large brick mithril, two flasks of water and one arrow shaft mold as comsumables.How much does the mithral cost?

[Wolfypaw]

Mithril arrow costs...

For two combines, assuming no failures in making the subcomponents, you need:

1 large block of mithril, approximately 18.5 pp.
2 small blocks of mithril, approximately 6 pp each
2 water at 1 silver
2 small nocks at 5 gold each

Basically, it's about 16 plats per combine. Successes (which are rare) yield 10 arrows. On Innoruuk server, arrows sell slowly at 3 pp each. I currently have 2 twinks full (bank and what they're holding) with arrows, and my merchie has about 1000 of 'em available.

Through the low 200s, I averaged about 70 combines per skill point, meaning it was costing just over 1k per point. From about 220 to 244, the average dropped to about 50 combines per point, although I had a few bad runs.

This was looking to be a major money sink for me. Then I discovered I can buy most of the ingredients for nightmarewood compound bows, and they sell for 8-10k on my server at a cost to make of 1-2k (based on fletching skill and prices of components).

[Greymantle]

Hmm thanks, so basicly if you can purchase small bricks of acrylia for 50p or less, the cost is comparable to making the mithral.BUT fewer steps as you only have to smith two instead of three parts. Also means one less chance to fail hehe.And anyone can make them anywhere. Same yeild 10 arrows per sucsess.

[Karmine]

Well I don't understand what's the problem but when I try to combine :
1 Condensed Shadow Arrowheads
1 Nock
1 Fletch
1 Acrylia Shafts
Nothing happened...
Anyone can explain me what's the problem?

[lonewylfe]

What nock and fletch are you using? You have to use the shield cut fletch and small nock.

[Greymantle]

Heh also make sure its a fletching kit, don't know how many times i have tried to make arrows in a sewing kit.

[Foog]

It must be small nock forgot which fletch. Only works with one type of fletch and nock.

Higgee

[Karmine]

Well thx I understans now I need to use high quality nocks and fletch :)

[Thugs]

where can i buy these blocks of mithril needed to make the arrows?

[Lothay]

Mithril can be purchased in Felwithe.
See the http://www.eqtraders.com/location/felwithe.htmTrade Supplies</a> section.

~ Lothay

[Greymantle]

Umm looking at you sig just one note. To make the mithril arrows you HAVE to be a wood elf. They are part of the cultural smithing and fletching.

[Thugs]

yes i know they are wood elf cultural fletching. my wood elf ranger can make them. just asking cause i couldnt find it. thanks again.

[Ianna]

250 Fletcher, got nearly ALL of my 202+ skillups by acrylia alone. Rangers aren't known to be rich, ye know? =)~

While yes, I spent 4 months in Tenebrous Mountains getting enough acrylia for thousands of combines... and will never visit that ****ed zone EVER again... I did realize something recently.

Acrylia Caverns. Go there, the acrylia drops like candy. My tradeskill mule is nearly full of acrylia in all sizes, plus black acrylia for when I get the time to finish up smithing. The mobs respawn fast, and the place can be one-grouped (or duoed, as myself and my shammy partner do at 60) for really nice exp. Dunno about any other servers, but on Prexus the zone is SO underutilized.

Ianna Wandring
Grand Mistress Fletcher (250)
Prexus Server
(Sig inc)

[Wolfypaw]

If you're a wood elf, then you should go hunt acrylia until you have tons and tons.

Then take all that acrylia to the baz, sell it to a smith, and go make mithril arrows instead.

[Ianna]

Actually, even as a wood elf, I would still suggest going the Acrylia route. Its slower, yes, but its cheaper, AND I consistently got more upps in skill per batch of combines (usually 60-80) than I ever did with Mithril.

IMHO, YMMV

Baroness Ianna Wandring
Grand Mistress Fletcher (250)
Prexus

[lonewylfe]

I've actually gotten more skillups with mithril than with acrylia, but I'm also not very patient :)
Gonna have to start farming more though, saw a pretty in the bazaar I want!! Must save plat!

[Wolfypaw]

Okay, I'm confused. If you pay 50pp per acrylia, then you have 25pp per combine just in acrylia. Not sure what the condensed substance arrowheads cost.

But it seems that acrylia is roughly 30pp per combine and mithril is 16pp per combine.

So what am I missing? Seems I can do twice as many combines on mithril as on acrylia for the same money.

It doesn't matter if you farm your own acrylia. You could sell that acrylia in the baz for 50pp or so.

So I'm confused why people feel acrylia is still a better route for wood elves.

[Ianna]

For some people, like myself, sitting in the Bazaar day in and day out to sell acrylia that I couldn't fit in my bank/inventory for more than a few hours -- its just not an option.

I pharmed my acrylia not from AC (which would've been smart) but from Tenebrous Mountains. Get a full bag or two - plus whatever my partner-and-crime-tradeskill-widower could carry. Head to Katta (before I screwed my faction) smith out the arrowshafts, which are stackable.

The arrowheads I fashioned myself. I love my friends - they'd hunt in Akheva or ME, bring me what condensed shadow they had, usually for free (or in exchange for arrows). Fire came from friends as well, mostly wizards who quad in Scarlet Desert. Smith the arrowheads, spend the total of about 40 plat max for a batch of 60-80 nocks and flights, and BAM! Arrows, and - at least for ME, YMMV - some decent skillups. Usually 2-4 per batch.

Yah, it took me a LOT of time to get from 202 to 250. Yah, I tried mithril, and the cost was prohibitive (at 55. still is at 60. ranjas are rarely rich, I've found) and the skillups were not as plentiful. Again, YMMV. Also, while I could sell them in the Bazaar for more, I generally had less successes, and lost money overall. With acrylia, I padded my bank some selling the arrows for WELL beneath the going price (because they cost me on average, 7sp a piece in materials) made many friends happy with stacks and stacks of arrows, and had plenty to shoot off myself as well.

Recap:

Acrylia is very time intensive.
Mithril is very cost intensive.

If you have the time, want to put in the effort, and - honestly- think of fletching as more of a quest to succeed in than a skill to max out as fast as possible? Go the acrylia route.

If you have the cash, or don't have the time - in the case of pharming acrylia in exp zones and selling while you're at work - want to get it done as fast as possible, and don't mind, IMHO, sacrificing some skillups? Go the mithril route.

****, now that I've been incredibly longwinded... I'll go now. /chuckle

~~Ianna Wandring~~
Grand Mistress Fletcher (250)
Prexus

[Bennan]

I went to Acrylia Caverns about 6 months ago, and on 3 Visits, I had more Acrylia than a Hobbit could *carry.

But a few months ago I visted the Caverns another 3 or 4 times, and I was lucky to get one piece it seemed.... Be interesting to hear if anyone else is having success or not there ?

Btw spent about 2 to 3 hours there each time...


* Carry, the formula for a Hobbit is Str (low) plus Greed (godlike).

[Blaide]

Went to grind AC for my shard and to farm acrylia at the same time not long ago (maybe a month) and the drop rate of the acrylia was pathetic. Got 4 bricks, 1 block, and 3 pieces in about 4 hours of grinding and pulling everything we could find. I would not suggest AC as being a viable way of gathering Acrylia. Tenebrous is much better as ive gotten about 25 bricks/blocks in 2 hours of grinding there. It helps having a tracker (or being one heh).

[bombyx]

Do the mithril working knife return when making Blessed Faydark Stinger?
do it return in success? or never return?

Bombyx
Fletching 200 in innourrk

[roger.hernandez]

If you are a Ranger, trueshot bows only cost a few pp per try + a whole lot of running around. Trivial around 230 I think.

That is what I am going to try now that I hit the wall at 202.

[lonewylfe]

yes, the mithril working knife is returned.

[bombyx]

Can anyone tell me the skill up rate with trueshot?

[Padwen]

Dual Cam Darkwoods
Dex at 260
Cha at 119

147 Attempts at 305pp each
142 Successes at 229pp sellback

3 skill ups (215, 216 and 217).

The RNG hates me.

edit oh yah, using geerlock.

[Renjah]

I skilled up to 232 making arrows and bows so I could make the nightmarewood compound bows and thus fund my tailoring addiction. At 232 skill I went 20 for 22 on the bows and got a skill up to 233. WOOT you say? More like a curse. I went 7 for 23 on the bows at skill level 233 with the same if not MORE dex/wis/int. Since I was losing a lot of money I put my last 6k to good use and made a few bows with darkwood/hemp/cams and got my skill to 234. Now with the same if not more dex/int/wis I am 7 for 8. Anyone else experience a horrible level in trade skills? I sent this in as a bug as I think I did enough combines at each skill level to show it was more than bad luck. I see people with 204 skill posting a success rate of 60% or more and at 233 skill I was worse than 33%!

Renjah Bagginns lvl 56 Halfling Ranger
234 skill fletcher Veeshan

P.S. I did use the fletching mod at all skill levels for all my bow combines.