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Doomspark Deathfire
12-18-2002, 06:48 AM
WHAT IS IT WITH WOMEN?????

Or more properly, what IS it with my ex-wife?

AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH!

*paws the ground and tosses head angrily*

It has suddenly become "inconvenient" for me to talk to my kids on the phone in the evenings - because "it's a school night."

HELLO! They're out of school for the Christmas holidays! HELLO!

"Well, I don't want them on the phone in the evenings."

Yeah. Like I can call them during the day while I'm at work. BAH HUMBUG!

"You can call them on the weekends."

Uh huh. When they're over at grandparents', or doing things with friends... been there, done that dance all this past year.

"Well, email them."

I want to TALK to them! GOOD GOD IN HEAVEN! What is SO HARD to understand about that? They're my kids too!

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And some people wonder why I refer to her as "the witch with a capital B".

Mods, please feel free to delete that sentence if you feel it violates the standards for this board.

Glatius2
12-18-2002, 08:41 AM
Sounds like control issues to me. *shrug*

Lilosh
12-18-2002, 11:50 AM
With all due respect to the wonderful ladies at this message board, who I am sure are the exception:

Women are evil, horrible creatures of un-mitigated evil and deceit.

No, I am NOT bitter, thankyouverymuch. Not at all. Never.



Your ex-wife seems to be an especially.........charming...... Member of the the gender.

Not Bitter,
Lilosh

Jessamyn Sunweaver
12-18-2002, 11:59 AM
Get us in a good mood, we may be nice for a couple of minutes =P

In all reality...women are fickle creatures, hard to read, hard to know when and when not to bother. Best you can do is cross your fingers or go talk to a court :(

Chenier
12-18-2002, 12:36 PM
Women are evil, horrible creatures of un-mitigated evil and deceit.
Yeah, and that's gonna help your position a whole lot. Don't stereotype, please.

Doom's ex-wife - ah well, yeah...sounds like she's got "issues".

But you can stop making your generalizations and silly stereotypes right now, thanks. *I* am not an evil, horrible creature nor will I ever accept that sort of discrimination.

Verdandi
12-18-2002, 01:29 PM
*hugs Doomspark* You found a real winner there hon. :(

As for which is worse, men or women, I will say that the only person on whom I've had to call the police was a woman, my roommate in college. But she also had "issues", of Freudian proportions. A habitual liar, she simultaneously entertained a fiance from home, an on-campus boyfriend, a friend of her father's who often came to "visit", and a long distance relationship with a man twice her age whom she drove into bankruptcy with phone bills. I knew she was over the edge when I found out the lies she'd been telling the long distance one to explain why she couldn't visit: she had cancer, her father had cancer, she was driven off the road and mugged on the way to the airport to fly there, etc. :shock: (Yes, I know, we won't go into what this implies for the man in question who believed it.) The police got involved when she started calling our house at all hours of the day and night over the summer and on breaks whenever one of her menfolk's phones were busy and she wanted to see if mine was too. :roll:

What I want to know is why men never feel any particular obligation to inform you that a relationship is over. Like it's going to get any easier to hear if you let me wonder why you're acting funny for a few days, weeks, or months in advance? All the while telling me everything is fine and wonderful, of course. What exactly makes two and a half days before my ($500) flight to visit you a better time than a week earlier when it occurred to you this wasn't what you wanted? :cry:

*tunnels into a snowbank and curls up*

sumamael
12-18-2002, 01:56 PM
I started playing EQ after a big disappointment in women so its all their fault! :twisted:

Anyway, I'm sure Chenier is right, generalization is bad and most women are kind, honest, caring and its only me who attracts the heartbreaking devils :P

Lilosh
12-18-2002, 02:03 PM
I started playing EQ after a big disappointment in women so its all their fault! :twisted:

Anyway, I'm sure Chenier is right, generalization is bad and most women are kind, honest, caring and its only me who attracts the heartbreaking devils :P


You and me both, Suma.


And Chenier, My statement was half in jest, and I clearly excluded the ladies at Eqtraders from it anyway.

So I am not taking it back. :roll: But don't take it personally.


-Lilosh ;)

Glatius2
12-18-2002, 02:45 PM
What I want to know is why men never feel any particular obligation to inform you that a relationship is over. Like it's going to get any easier to hear if you let me wonder why you're acting funny for a few days, weeks, or months in advance?

Well, speaking from my personal experience, I'd say its because we're not sure what the hell is going on at first either. It starts out as a feeling of uneasiness. We start considering why in the world we're feeling uneasy. We poke around at various things and realize those aren't it. We begin to get a glimmer of what the real problem is and realize that maybe the relationship isn't what we're really looking for.

Meanwhile of course, the woman, being sensitive to our slow change in behavior, that we often don't even realize is happening, begins to ask us probing questions. We don't have a good answer. We don't understand the problem. Or we understand the problem too well and explaining it would be painful to us and extremely painful to her (if its a her problem). So initially we say everything is fine, half way hoping its true and half way hoping we can convince ourselves its true.

And of course eventually we realize that the problem isn't going to go away. Our uneasiness has solidified into a full blown feeling of just not right. Now, how do we deal with it? Invariably we fuxor it up, causing more pain than intended because there really isn't any graceful way to end a relationship when only one of the two parties feels it isn't what they want.

I'm speaking only for those men who are fairly decent human beings, of course. There are a number of us aren't that particularly concerned about it all.

Idara
12-18-2002, 03:44 PM
*hugs Doomspark*

Women like this drive me absolutely crazy. Because, sure she's driving her ex nuts, but who is she hurting the most here? THE KIDS! My hubby and his ex had a really bitter and ugly break up, but one thing they agreed on was not to talk trash about each other to their daughter. And they both stuck by it. Now, years down the road, they have a happy, well adjusted daughter who knows how much they both love her, and they've even been able to get past some of the ugly things in their marriage and become the friends they were before they tied the knot. Heck, we've spent holidays at their house and she and I take our sons to the park together occasionally. And what did it cost them? A lot of bitten tongues and clenched teeth I have no doubt. But in the end, the happiness of their daughter was more important than any kind of revenge on each other. And considering the number of dads who just blow off their kids and walk away when a marriage ends, it really pains me to see a dad who really cares about his kids enough to be more than just a weekend father but gets cut off so his wife can feel better about herself. Don't give up Doom. If necessary, get the courts involved. Your kids are the most important thing here. Do what needs to be done for their sake.

Cigarskunk
12-19-2002, 07:29 AM
Sigh, women - can't live with 'em, can't get them to dress up in skimpy little **** outfits and let you throw pickles at 'em.

/em shakes his head in disgust ;)

Chenier
12-19-2002, 10:41 AM
And Chenier, My statement was half in jest, and I clearly excluded the ladies at Eqtraders from it anyway.

So I am not taking it back. But don't take it personally.
Oh, so just because you exclude "the women who read this board" that means it's okay to discriminate and make statements like that?

I won't take this any further because I'll end up getting banned for what I really want to say, but I want you to know that your attitude infuriates me to no end.

Lilosh
12-19-2002, 12:27 PM
And Chenier, My statement was half in jest, and I clearly excluded the ladies at Eqtraders from it anyway.

So I am not taking it back. But don't take it personally.
Oh, so just because you exclude "the women who read this board" that means it's okay to discriminate and make statements like that?

I won't take this any further because I'll end up getting banned for what I really want to say, but I want you to know that your attitude infuriates me to no end.


I am sorry that I have offended you with my remarks.

As I said, the statement was made half in jest. Take it with a grain of salt.
One of my two best friends in the entire world is a woman.

And now, I too will respect your wish to not continue this any further. I just posted this in an attempt to make sure you dont harbor any future feelings of ill-will towards me.

-Lilosh

Hobbun
12-19-2002, 01:01 PM
Jessamyn is right. Woman are hard to read. I've had my heart broken twice...by the same woman. I was very confused with her feelings dealing with me and she just broke up with me in the end. I just have bad luck.
:( But anyways, enough of that.
I hold nothing against her however and women in general. They can give you companionship, friendship and love. And all they want is the same from you.
The 2nd in command in our guild is a woman and she is one of the sweetest and most helpful people I know. And she is a good friend. Her main is a 51 druid and just because of the way she is, hunted Brownie scouts for me for 3 hours straight.
Even though I haven't had much luck, I try to make a point to judge each woman on a seperate basis.

And I want to make one last point, for those who have had bad experiences with women(myself included), just think where EQTraders might be or even exist at all, without the immense time and effort of a certain woman?

/BIG hug to her

Hobbun

Lilosh
12-19-2002, 02:09 PM
The denmom doesnt count as just a "woman".

All Mom's are exluded from the generic title of "Woman"

Moms are special , wonderful people.


*Huggles to the denmom*


-Lilosh

Cigarskunk
12-19-2002, 02:28 PM
Oh, so just because you exclude "the women who read this board" that means it's okay to discriminate and make statements like that?

Pah - I'm not seeing why you're so upset - women are evil and men are pigs - that's the way it's been since the dawn of time, that's the way it is now, that's the way it will be till the end of time.

Women just want what's in a man's wallet, men just want what's in a woman's pants - when they bonk heads in the process and look up at each other all stary eyed, we call it love. ;)

Besides, think of how boring it would be if the two sexes got along perfectly - you gals wouldn't have anything to talk about with the gals in the restroom and us guys wouldn't have anything to talk about with the guys at the water cooler (no - we don't talk about sports - it's just a cover so that you women don't realise that we're talking about you). ;)

Now, I think that any rational person will have probobly figured out that the above was said in jest and that anyone who takes the battle of the sexes seriously is in need of a good wedgy, but I'm tossing this in so that we can all laugh at anyone who responds before they make it past the third paragraph. :D

Lilosh
12-19-2002, 02:44 PM
Now, I think that any rational person will have probobly figured out that the above was said in jest and that anyone who takes the battle of the sexes seriously is in need of a good wedgy, but I'm tossing this in so that we can all laugh at anyone who responds before they make it past the third paragraph. :D


BUT DONT YOU SEE??? THEY'RE OUT TO <GET> US, MAN!!!!

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


In all seriousness, those who have read my rants in the past know that I hold both genders in equal disregard.

On a larger scale, I suppose it's people who are mean and stinky. I just mentioned the half that were semi-relevant to the topic.


:D


-Lilosh

Watch the use of the "K" word, Lilosh. Not funny, even in jest. Thankee! - Kehv

burnttoastv
12-19-2002, 03:22 PM
Giving my generic response because I'm one of millions who feel the need to speak up about something they are not directly involved in....

Gender does not equal a person.

Acts of compassion or evil jackaninnism in general do not equate a gender.

The function of slapping a label on a person makes them other then a person and it's easier to call a label evil/good/nuetral/redneck/etc then it is a person. Person's are people, people are valued. Slap a label on a person and thier value will change in everyone's eyes as they stop being that person and are now that label.

Use an example of Drinalians (people from Drinal server) some say are exceptionally good looking in real life. Thus people could be led far astray before they meet the Drinalian Lyanne in real life, and then have the quick education after meeting me and redefine Drinalians as outstandingly good looking, if they insist on using the label Drinalian as part of how they describe me.

But I'll pull my mostly rambling, maybe made sense, generic sermon to a close as the soapbox I'm standing on is sagging under the weight of my larger then usual beltline and the wind is cold that whips around my too few head hairs.

Hmmm....with a response like that I should qualify to get a seat in Jerry Springer's audiance (see, label!).

Ngreth Thergn
12-20-2002, 10:18 AM
Bah.

People are taking this seriously.

Closed.