Stupid Farmers

[Deathseekerdan]

This is the worst tradeskill day I've ever had. I'm about to the point where it's time to give them up completely.

Day started off by me getting the final glowing wurm bile for the fifth shawl. Yay. Failed combine. Boo. Oh well. I'll go try that again in a month or two. I got called to a ringwar in gd, had lots of fun, died at least 7 times. I lost all the rolls for the loot, so it got me thinking I should work on my smithing and make some dwarven plate.

First thing I need is leather padding. Ok, spiderling silk drops in everlost all the time. I get there and there's three druids and a rogue killing all the spawns. Sucky. So I try north karana for some pelts. Nope, 5 druids there. Well, there's always nro and the commons. Except that they're infected with farmers too. So I give up and try spider silk for tailoring. East karana is a graveyard, and lower guk was vaporized when the wood elf crown quest came out. There's no point in even trying faydwer since that's where druids are born. Now, I know that there's lots of wonderful good skilled non farming druids out there, but the problem with nasty evil druids who give their class a bad name, is that they've given their class a bad name.

Finally I give up. I'll give into their tactics and go buy supplies in the bazaar. Well, I found out why they're farming. Ruined pelts for 5pp per. Spiderling silks for 10pp per. Want a hq pelt, it's going to run you into the triple digits.

I remember the days when I used to do tradeskills to relieve the boredom of xp grinding. Now it's the other way around. I've gained more levels in the last six months than I did in the two and a half years before just because I'm so sick of having to fight people for spawns. This might be an unpopular comment, but I miss the days when tradeskills were useless. I never started them to make money anyways, I just like being able to make different stuff, and I like having something else to do in the game. Now it's just a chore, and a money drain, and I don't think I should have to make a druid alt just to compete against the hordes of other druid alts. Oh well, back to sebilis for me. Maybe when I come out all the prices will have bottomed out and I can hunt a spiderling again.

[Vzinn]

I totally i agree when i started the tradeskill business i wasn't even trying to make things to sell but rather just to release camp boredom. I started when i had to wait the 8 hr spawn for my ToV quest. well then when i started my necro the tradeskills infected me and so i wanted to do the same with that char. well now that the bazaar exist it is impossible my main was a master potter and wanted to do the same with the necro yeah good luck getting iron oxide for higher end pottery without having to pay 150pp or more in the bazaar and if you are hoping to get it as a drop good luck beating a druid to the elementals since tracking helps them pin point them much quicker than i can run around in circles looking and screw the ground spawns i think there is a waiting list. So now i have given up for the most part and now that tradeskills aren't the most important part of my chars i just lvl and am getting anywhere from a lvl to 2 a day i have gotten my necro to 44 in about a 2 weeks but it just doesn't feel well rounded without tradeskills and i really don't want to have to mess around with a druid just to hunt down items and who wants to pay 200pp for a pelt that drops from a newbie mob?

[Pooka]

I don't know 'bout your servier, but on E'ci there's never anyone in Misty Thicket. Maybe, maybe, there will be 9 people in the zone. It's a big zone. There's wolves and bears and spiderlings aplenty. (What's more, the large wood spiders drop spiderling silk sometimes too.)

Yes, druids are born in rivervale as well, but for some reason, the best newbie zone in all of norrath is never full.

If you're looking for xp while you farm... you're out of luck. I've never made xp while farming anything but deathfist belts (level 12-14).

Good luck to you.

[Traska]

::Cough::

You're ranting because of farmers farming what you're trying to farm?

O-kay...

[Iannyen]

.../jingle on (in a manner resembling banjoes)
How many pelts can a pelt farmer farm, if a pelt farmer can farm pelts....
/repeat
/jingle off


thats my favorite song to sing when I'm running through EK with a Griffon in tow smashing everything that moves....

[kiztent]

::Cough::

You're ranting because of farmers farming what you're trying to farm?

O-kay...

I suspect it has more to do with the fact that he supposes (probably correctly) that the farmers are farming so that they can gouge people in the bazaar (3 digits for a HQ pelt? I'm from Stormhammer and that's a sick price), rather than for personal use as he is.

[Dvinn]

You gotta think outside the box a little if you want to have success. There's millions of cat pelts waiting to be had in Stonebrundt, and the zone is always empty.

For spiderling silks try Feerote or West Karana, yes that's right West Karana, I learned this from doing the shaman epic. If you head to the second guard tower going east, you will find quite a few spiderlings (they have place holders), these drops silks in great quantity, up to 6 at a time.

[Mardark]

Leather Padding:

Get low quality hopper hides from greyhoppers in marus seru. Get Shadeling Silks from worms or shades in Shadeweaver. I got 50 low quality hides in an hour once. Usually was closer to 40-45 on average. Shadeling silks 100+ per hour in shadeweaver.

Quit wasting your time in the old world zones with the farmers. Move up to luclin to get your leather padding needs.

[Dynaen]

I play on the Karana server, and like the previous post, Shadeweaver's Thicket is the place to go for pelt/silk farming. I leveled my Rogue up from 1st to 12th in about 8 hours or so, and the entire time out there, I think I saw one other newbie (I was playing during prime playing hours, not 4am or anything strange). The rest were people just passing through from the PoK book. I ended up with about 4 stacks of Shadeling Silk, about 20 Ruined Pelts, 20 LQ Pelts, 5 MQ Pelts, and 5 HQ pelts. I wasn't even trying to farm, I was just leveling. A dedicated farmer up there could probably come away with a full inventory of tailoring supplies after a while.

-Dynaen

[Idara]

I get all my spiderling silks from the brownie fort in Lesser Fay. Kill the brownies for chocolate and the spiderlings for silk. The spiderlings spawn faster than the brownies so I can usually go through 2 sets of spiderlings for each set of brownies I whack. I usually end up with at least 10 silks per round, sometimes more. I leave with 2 or 3 stacks of brownie parts, 3 or 4 stacks of spiderling silks, and a little bit of experience from the brownie guards.

[Eumerin]

There's spiderlings in WK? Must be relatively new. When I leveled up back there pre-Kunark, the only spiders in the zone were giant spiders. As far as farming for supplies goes, the two best zones (imho) have already been mentioned. Feerott for spiderling silk and Stonebrunt for pelts. I tried Feerott once, roamed a bit from the PoK book, and found a nice sweet spot that seemed to be a convergence of spiderling spawns. Kill a few spiderlings, wait a few minutes, wash, rinse, repeat. Stonebrunt is swarming with cats that no one ever hunts that drop quality pelts by the bucketload.
Another spot that hasn't been mentioned for spidersilk is Najena. True, you might run into the widowmistress every now and again, and the ghoulbane skeletons seem to have an agro range that covers half the zone (and agro on anything), but the only people likely to be in the zone are magicians working on their focus items or epic, and the spiders congregate in a couple of static spawns with a few spiders at each point.

[wold2]

Ranger out farms druid any day :)
Ranger track is much better, and rangers hit the spidies twice and they die. Druid often has to actually cast on the greenies lol.
I have a 50 druid and 32 ranger, so I at least have a basis for the opinion ;)
My ranger was a monster spiderling silk collector, he made em all weep in the frenzied (and I mean frenzied!!) days before the infamous June 5th patch. We collected all the pelts and silks for the leather paddings ourselves. The competition was never worse than those days.
Want spiderling silk? I have one word for you: feerot

[Traska]

Druid out-farms ranger. Unless what you want to farm is near you, or near a city. =) Want to farm in EK, Hollowshade Moor, Lake of Ill Omen, and Eastern Wastes all int he same day? Unless you're willing to pay someone else (often a druid!) to take you there, a druid is a better choice than a ranger, any day of the week.

Mind you, if you have a druid in your backpack, it's easy enough. But the same could be said of a druid with a ranger in the backpack. =)

[Deathseekerdan]

Hmm, that luclin stuff sounds like a good idea. I got frightened of luclin when I first got it cause my guildies were all hunting in maidens eye. I went over with them, and the mobs there are insanely tough for their level. I assumed the whole expansion was that tough and never bothered exploring it.

As for the farming, yes, I farm. But I only do it for my tradeskills. I'm very bad at selling things. I think I've sold maybe 20 things ever since I started playing 2 and a half years ago (my gear sucks) I can't stand /auctioning over and over, and I can't leave my computer on while I'm not playing to be a bazaar mule. That's one of the reasons I'm getting back into smithing, so I can make myself some decent brellium gear.

[Danae]

I assumed the whole expansion was that tough and never bothered exploring it.You're missing out. Theres some great stuff in Luclin.

[Railina]

There's spiderlings in WK? Must be relatively new. When I leveled up back there pre-Kunark, the only spiders in the zone were giant spiders.
Yep, it's new. When they added newbie quests in Qeynos, they imcluded spiderling silks or silk threads in some of them, and they added spiderlings in WK because the one truely inteligent person at VI who made up the newbie quests said, "Hey, you're gonna need to add this, this, and this, or these quests are just going to drive people away from the game because they'll be impossible for your actual, new players."


got frightened of luclin when I first got it cause my guildies were all hunting in maidens eye. I went over with them, and the mobs there are insanely tough for their level.

Funny, i went to Luclin as soon as i got it (level 19 on my main) wandered around a bit, enjoyed the scenery, got squished to death y a level fourty mob (stonegrabbers in MS are indifferent, why does this one in ML hate me?) Some mobs are insanely tough for a melee, but zones like TM and MS thrill me to no end, because noone EVER quad kites them, there's nothing in EQ more frustrating than spending 3 minutes and most of your health pounding on one mob while a dr00d finishes 2 quads, and i never have to see that on the moon. Not to mention the Vamps, Shadows, and Spire Spirits -- Could there be anything so beautiful as an undead mob that's immune to fear, procs a lifetap, and can be soloed by any cleric willing to practice a little?

[kiztent]

Druid out-farms ranger. Unless what you want to farm is near you, or near a city. =) Want to farm in EK, Hollowshade Moor, Lake of Ill Omen, and Eastern Wastes all int he same day? Unless you're willing to pay someone else (often a druid!) to take you there, a druid is a better choice than a ranger, any day of the week.

Nope.

EK is slightly inconventient, being 3 zones from Misty Thicket, but LOIO is next to a PoK zone (and nearest druid gate is DL), EW is same distance from a PoK book as a druid ring, and HSM is 2 zones from a PoK book (as opposed to the druid gate next zone over). It's not a significant advantage.

And melees can extended farm greens much, much faster than casters (except necros).

[Veldin Darkfire]

Actually EK is just next to NK and a spire....remember the spires :) Combine them with books and you can get pretty much anywhere fast except CS/WL

As for farmers what really burns my biscut is the lazy (mostly dr00ds) farmers who sit on their ass waiting for YOU to kill ph so they can track to the mobs YOU just spawned and kill them. Can anyone be more deserving of a trian then them?....

/shout Trabul Earthstrider to lazy_dr00d_farmer_01!

Veldin

[wold2]

Heh its true my ranger never had to worry about transport. My RL wife has a 52 druid and (now) 50 HLF Ranger. Combine that with my druid and ranger and we are two boxin farming machines :)
We did head to head druid vs ranger several times. The ranger wins because they can sort track by distance and run right to the mob. Druid track is sorted by spawn time. So you never know how close the mob is.
And of course if the mob is a little bigger and the druid cant effectively melee it, Ranger wins because of mana down time.
So I agree: best is two accouts with transport druid on one and 30+ ranger on the other :)

[kiztent]

Actually EK is just next to NK and a spire....remember the spires :) Combine them with books and you can get pretty much anywhere fast except CS/WL

Spires have up to a 15 minute cycle time. I can zone 3 times in 15 minutes easily.

[Veldin Darkfire]

I would hope so but either way EK is still very accesable and it really depends as far as spires are concerned if you hit one near take off or not.

down with lazy dr00ds.

Veldin