Mamoth hunting questions

[Cigarskunk]

Spent the other evening hunting with my ranger toon in Everfrost so my troll could skill up his baking - killed a dozen calves and four adult mamoths - got a grand total of two meats from the adults and none from the calves.

1) Do the calves drop the meat?
2) What are the place holders for the mamoths, if any?
3) If I bring my troll out to EW, will he have better luck with the mamoths there?
4) What are the PH for the EW mamoths?
5) Any additional comments which you think may help are welcomed.

Thanks in advance! :)

[curufin]

The area east of the Kael ramp in EW should have all the mammoths you need. Just watch for the occasional snow griffon or manticore.

Curufin the Enchanter

[Feoni]

Im ~90 % sure that the calves can drop mammoth meats also.

While youre there, dont forget to check vendors for ones that have been sold. Dont forget to auction to the zone that you want to buy them.

Can also find them in bazaar for ~5pp ea occaisonally (well on zebuxoruk atleast).

[EristeofInnoruuk]

I know that the calves in Everfrost drop meat... that's the only place I've hunted, so I don't know about other mammoths. In Everfrost, between calves and adult mammoths, I think I generally get meat about one third of the time.

[Mad Baker Hobbitt]

Calves definitely drop meat.... Just not often. The key is just to keep killing them (unless EW is a viable option for you... It is better there).

Have fun.... Another way is just to buy the meat off of the hunters in Everfrost. I almost always am able to find a char who has a stack or so to sell.

Hopperr

[Sadara]

I would suggest going to Eastern Wastes. You'll get a lot more mammoth meats there.

Sadara Spiritslammer
<Scent of an Ogre>
Brell Serilis

[Calabar]

The drop rate for mammoth meat in EW is a lot better than in Everfrost. My ranger has been hunting there for a while now. I’m not sure what the drop rate is exactly, but its been well over two thirds for my ranger. Of course, the mammoths in EW are higher level than the ones in Everfrost. If you don’t have a character that can solo them, I’d suggest teaming up with a druid or a ranger. Both have panic animal spells. A necromancer would also work well, as they can fear just about anything. Keep the mammoth snared and feared and beat it to death. Its not very sporting, but it works.

I would also recommend pulling to the shore. Fighting in the middle of EW is just begging for adds. If you run along the South shore, you’ll be able to find lots of mammoths. They roam just a short way in from the water and you can pull them back to the edge of the ice and fight them without having to worry overly much about adds. I usually hunt by the Coldain Camp (#11 on the EQAtlas map), but there are often a lot of mammoths by the Portal to Sleeper's Tomb (#10 on the EQAtlas map).

Best of luck,

[Danae]

I'm just kind of chuckling to hear so many folks say that EW is better for the meat drops ~ I've been levelling my druid there the last few weeks, and have not gotten a single piece of meat dropped. On the other hand, while killing placeholders waiting for the tainted mammoth to spawn in EF for an epic drop, I got about a dozen pieces of meat.

[Mad Baker Hobbitt]

Where were you hunting Danae? When Ihunted mammoths close to the bridge long ago, I had good luck with the meats.

Maybe the meat god just has not been looking kindly on your activities?

Hopperr

[Danae]

I think we're talking about the same place ~ the bridge near the zone to Iceclad? Thats where I was. Maybe Tunare was feeling feisty those days, not sure. I hit 250 months ago, but figured I'd save the meat for future guild supply marathons anyway. :?

[Cyrnan]

Both calves and mommas dropped Mammoth Meat for me in Everfrost. I went there with my Dwarf Warrior to hunt, and got almost a stack of it in a few days of moderate hunting.
Perhaps it's the timing of the spawns? I don't know, as I'm fairly new to all this (but loving it).

[Cigarskunk]

Anyone know the place holders for the mamoths in either zone?

Hunting in EW is no biggy - my 46 troll SK is the one who needs the meat.

[Tobin Itharel]

BIG thing not to forget

EW = Low cash
EF = Tusks cash

so for the baker who wants to cover the cost of the other ingredients for Halas pies - I say Everfrost all the way.

[Fulmar]

Cigarskunk,
As a note of caution, I have no data to back this up. I strongly believe that the orc shamans and mountianeers and maybe the ice bone skellies are place holders for the big mammoths. This is based only on my observations from leveling my BL on mammoths almost exclusively from lv 26 through 32. I tend to kill all the "yard trash" when I'm out hunting mammoths but I tend to see a group of mammoth spawns several minutes after I kill a number of the shaman's and mountianeers. Is it coincidence? Perhaps.

Fulmar, 37th Barbarian Shaman
Brell Serilis
216 Potter, 200 Brewer, 190 Baker, 186 Jewler, 182 Smith, 182 Fletcher, 158 Tailor, 41 Alchemist

[Ariene]

The "common knowledge" / myth / possible truth when my Shaman was growing up in Everfrost was that the spiders were place holders for the mama mammoths. No clue how true that may be but that was what "everyone" knew back then. :)

[Calabar]

Whether to hunt for mammoth meat in Everfrost or Eastern Wastes is, in my opinion, largely a mater of level. If you are a lower level character then Everfrost is the place to hunt. The mammoths are lower level and you can get some good cash selling the tusks. If you are higher level, Eastern Wastes is a good place to hunt. The mammoths are plentiful and they drop lots of meat, or at least they have for me. Plus you can hunt for meat in EW and gain experience at the same time. My level 49 ranger can still find DB mammoths to hunt.

This is just my personal feelings, but I will never again hunt mammoths in Everfrost with my forty plus characters. To do so, I feel, is extremely selfish. Everfrost mammoths are a great resource for characters in their low 20s. They give decent xp and they are a good source of much needed income. But one of the problems I always had when my characters were growing up was overcrowding. I used to tell people that the best way meet other players on their server was to hunt mammoths in Everfrost. Almost without fail, I’d run up to attack a mammoth and meet two or three others going for the same animal. Things may have slowed down a bit with the introduction of Luclin, but I refuse to take such a valuable resource away from lower level characters who can actually get experience by hunting there.

My experiences in Eastern Wastes, as far as mammoth meat is concerned, have been very good. My ranger will pull mammoths to the shore and fear kite them. By the time I get bored with it he’ll walk away with a stack or a stack and a half of mammoth meat. I’ve also fear kited and root doted mammoths there with my druid, but he doesn’t kill them as quickly so he doesn’t get as much meat per session. Still, it’s a great zone for both gaining experience and for gathering meat. I’d highly recommend giving it a shot. Just remember to pull to the shore to avoid adds.

[kiztent]

For mammoths in the Eastern Wastes, I've heard of 2 preferred spots to hunt:

1 - The hut waaaay off in the south west corner - walrus spawn in the fields further SW of there, and the occasional Ulthork man-o-war. The ulthorks are 40-42, hit like velious mobs, but drop tusks and ulthork legs and tunics. Pulling North and East of there (back to the hut), will yield giants (who drop giant meat and velium weapons), manticores (annoying, for a shawl), griffons (3rd shawl) and mammoths.

2 - pull to the sleeper's tomb entrace (which is due south of the ry'gorr fort). Mobs are tougher there (more DB in low 50s than the hut). Same mob mix.

Unless you can't hunt in EW, I'd hunt there. Better exp, loot and faction.

[Cigarskunk]

This is just my personal feelings, but I will never again hunt mammoths in Everfrost with my forty plus characters. To do so, I feel, is extremely selfish.

/em concures

Sadly, if I had a plat peice for every anon character with a title by thier name farming the spires around Paw, slaughtering green giants in Rathe or otherwise decimating a 20-30 level zone because they're too lazy or cowardly to actually work for thier plat...

/sigh

[sir0die]

This is just my personal feelings, but I will never again hunt mammoths in Everfrost with my forty plus characters. To do so, I feel, is extremely selfish.

/em concures

Sadly, if I had a plat peice for every anon character with a title by thier name farming the spires around Paw, slaughtering green giants in Rathe or otherwise decimating a 20-30 level zone because they're too lazy or cowardly to actually work for thier plat...

/sigh

excuse me, if i work a tradeskill up to a Grandmaster (250), does that mean i should not profit by something that trivials at 100?

then why shouldn't we be able to kick back a bit and go for the easy prey? maybe i don't always want to hunt for sport. Don't get me wrong, if the zone has more than a complete group of players that are zone appropriate or prime time, i don't decimate the zone. I may desimate certain mob types.

as a tailor, i am forced to have to either buy or farm spiderling silk. now most spiderlings i know of are inn newbie areas. I usually will send a tell out that i'll buy them, if i don't get any responses, well, lets just say that the spiderling population is about to be in serious decline zone wide.

if ya catch me in everfrost or misty thicket, i'll usually buff ya for free, if i got the mana. Shammy buffs can be nice.


I worked for the plat, i fought tons of stuff that didn't drop diddly. If you add the "easy kill plat" with the "hard to kill very little plat", it evens out to be decent.

[Cigarskunk]

excuse me, if i work a tradeskill up to a Grandmaster (250), does that mean i should not profit by something that trivials at 100?

No, the discussion was whiping out the green spawns that lower level players actually need for XP purposes.

Sometimes it can't be helped, but if you've got the ability to farm something somewhere that you aren't depriving folks of XP vs farming something somewhere that you are due to being lazy or risk adverse, that's what's going to get you two thumbs down from most folks.

I'll always back off to someone doing real XPing (as opposed to PLing or blue farming) unless that's the only game in town for what I need - even then I'll still try to make some sort of arangement with the person(s).[/code]

[lokel]

So where are the good farming camps for wolves? I hunted in Nek forest for a WHOLE day and only came up with less than 2 stacks of wolf meat.

[Lothay]

Wolves are plentiful in Everfrost, West Karana, East Karana, and numerous other zones.

I usually just grab some from Everfrost.

~ Lothay

[Lilosh]

I farm the vendors in EC. And then some other newbie zones.

They have a ton of HP , though. :twisted:


All newbie zones seem to have wolves. And newbies who sell the meat to vendors, in quantity.


-Lilosh

[Drucilla]

This is just my personal feelings, but I will never again hunt mammoths in Everfrost with my forty plus characters. To do so, I feel, is extremely selfish.

/em concures

Sadly, if I had a plat peice for every anon character with a title by thier name farming the spires around Paw, slaughtering green giants in Rathe or otherwise decimating a 20-30 level zone because they're too lazy or cowardly to actually work for thier plat...

/sigh

Not in all cases would you be stealing the mobs out from under the more deserving. I went to Everfrost tonight for mammoth meats (before I read here that EW is better!), and there were about 6 other people in the entire zone, all doing the frost giants. Why feel bad about mowing over greenies if there's not a newbie in the zone to take advantage of them? And if they had been there, I'd do what I do on other farming outtings - hunt away from them and offer plat and buffs for any they give to me. You might even help them find that no drop piece they've been looking for. I think with a little sensitivity and generosity for the indigenous population, it's possible to not be disruptive in farming a newbie zone.

[Nairn Niteraven]

I think some of you may be missing an obvious solution. Make a deal with a lower level that needs the xp while not grouping with them. Heal and buff them in exchange for the meat. It works for me in EF and should work anywhere. If you can find a middle-of-the-road compromise, it'll work.

[Idana Phoenixfyre]

I don't know, I've offered just about everything to get mammoth meat off of the newbies. I'll buff, heal, and/or pay for it and I never get any answers. At that point I don't feel bad farming them. I would much rather let someone else get the experience but there's only so much I can be expected to offer.

[Threlcour]

For a non-tracking character, I think it is easier to find mammoths in EW then in Everfrost. You can see them from a lot further away.

[Gargazon]

When I was farming meat I generally decimated everything in sight, unless others were there. If others needed the exp I (as a warrior) would pull them and taunt, keep it on me while they killed it, I let them keep the tusks, I got the meat. Other than that I just traded tusks for meat. If I found a hardhead who didn't want to get with the program I made sure they didn't have much to kill. Not because I wanted to be a jerk, but because I was there for a reason, and I had every bit as much right as he did to be there. I didn't get exp, but so what? Tradeskills don't give you exp either, so why do them right? Everything in this game isn't designed to give you exp.

If this sounds harsh it isn't meant to be. It's just that I am required to use mammoth meat to skill up a tradeskill and EF is the easiest source of it. Some would say that I am ruining the game for those lower level players who want exp. I say WRONG!

I am level 63 atm, and I never killed a mammoth until I needed to farm meat. By the logic that I am taking exp from people there I should never have been able to level because the high levels farmed meat and I couldn't get any exp.

The one and ONLY reason that people farm mammoths at the level intended for them to be exp mobs (as opposed to using other better exp zones/mobs) is MONEY! You can make more money killing mammoths in the low to mid 20's than any other mob I can think of offhand...and certainly for the effort involved.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, when you have a player who wants to farm mammoths for exp, but doesn't want to give you the meat unless you pay a fortune for it, make sure it's all dead until he comes around or leaves. When he does, you can then work out a deal. I personally traded tusks for meat. This didn't hurt me at all, because as a troll I can't sell in Halas anyway, and even if I could I would not have wasted my time running back and forth when I could have been farming more meat. I had one guy in particular who was a problem, he whined and whined and called me names, and petitioned that I was ksing, and had a gm come observe me. Then whined to the gm that I was taking his exp, etc. The GM pretty much told him where he could stick it. (OMFG! I actually had a GM with a brain for once) At that point I started looting tusks and destroying them. Once he could no longer follow me around collecting free money I had him where I wanted him...tusks for meat.

In the end I had a backpack full of 200 meat, 3 wasted days farming it. A few nice people who just gave it to me because they didn't need it, and some others that I gave tusks to. Oh, and one guy whom I promised pies to. I put him on my friends list, but haven't seen him yet...but he will get his pies when I do.

[Gargazon]

Found him today, gave him his pies...and lo and behold he had 3 more stacks of meat he had been saving for me...carpal tunnel is going to be bad soon =(

[Calabar]

Best of luck with your pies. They finally became trivial to me, but I still have stacks and stacks of supplies. I’d love to make room in my bank, but I know as soon as I do one of my friends will ask me to make a batch. *sigh*

[kodiacFL]

What a load of horse dung! If you don't like the fact that Verrant made mammoth meat a critical item for the baking trade skills, take it up with Verrant not the bakers trying to further their skill. From my experiences in EF, I'd say 98% of the people hunting mammoths are doing so for the tusks or the meat. Point in fact is that no one ever hunts the goblins there that are similar in level to mammoths and wooly mammoths. If they were truely hunting for xp, they'd kill them too. Any xp is just a bonus because they are really only after the tusks.

Secondly, I read on this board a couple of places that giant spiders and giant wooly spiders were place holders for mammoths and wooly mammoths respectively. I've gone there, and there wasn't a mammoth on tracking anywhere. I've ooc'd for people to kill the spiders and next thing you knew was that there were mammoths everywhere - more than enough to go around.

[Calabar]

Just a small point about hunting mammoths over goblins, the difference is that mammoths are animals and goblins are not. If you’re a druid soloing in Everfrost you aren’t going to be hunting goblins because you can’t fear them. As a druid I hunted there for xp. In theory it was a great zone for druids, except for the crowds. It was outside and wide open, perfect for fear kiting. And the fact that the mammoths could drop tusks that I could sell and buy my spells didn’t hurt either. It was, in fact, THE best place to hunt at that level to get xp and make a few coins for spells and equipment. Now that the bazaar exists there are other ways of making money, but it’s still really nice when you can hunt for xp and get sellable drops at the same time.

[kiatek]

I only ever went to everfrost once for mammoth meat. Drops were abysmal for me. I went to Eastern wastes and I got meat off almost every mammoth. Thumbs up for EW from me :)

[brial]

As the title reads, my main is a Barb warrior so hunting wolves and mammies is second nature to me. What I do now 65 levels later. I use my 31 ranger to do the farming. Baking and smithing are my two main tradeskills, btw. I refuse to pay 15pp -20pp per leather padding (price in Vaz)

Wolf Meat-

I do a loop from ramp to Bandl (the NPC Guard edge of tundra). Back and forth till i get all my backpacks full of silk, meat and pelts. I kill everything to spawn wolves. Although, I have a theory, which I'll look into proving sometime... I think skellies share the same spawn table with wolves. In a few hours I can have a few stacks of wolf meat. No need to have track. If you are using EQAtlas map the route I take is: From #1 to #3 to #5... and back again.

Mammoth Meat-

It has been my experience that the drop ratio of the calves is higher than the mommas. This from growing up killing both. As for the PH of mommas, its the spiders. Yeah its frustrating. Aldo they spawn at two points in the tundra over by Perma (which is at times crowded) and on the SE corner of the tundra (past the IG statue) in this area you will rarely see anyone hunting them... they path from the corner towards South Tower. On a good day I can get about 5 meats ( :x ) But I also check every vendor in Halas, QH, SFG, and JPF... and have gotten quite lucky. Not to mention having the luck of having 3 accounts in the household (and 3 computers) we always have a bazaar trader up and I check as often as possible for these items.

Hope this helps someone :)