This will be a compilation of several posts from the old message boards (http://pub147.ezboard.com/feqtraderscornerfrm76.showMessage?topicID=306.topi c). I'd dearly love it if someone could sift through and make a coherent quest guide from this, as it will likely be a couple weeks before I can find the time for it ...
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From Bakara:
Aid Grimel, PoK Library at the top of the elevator.
[Fri Nov 15 21:16:00 2002] You say, 'Hail, Aid Grimel'
[Fri Nov 15 21:16:01 2002] Aid Grimel says 'Greetings and Salutations Bakara! I am Grimel, aid to the mighty paladin Councilman Taldarius. In between his duties to the city, Taldarius and I spend most of our time in the Planes cleansing evil. Even now I am preparing for battle. Taldarius intends to go further into the Planes than ever before on our next trip and I am working on gathering the special supplies we need. If you are willing to help I may have some use for your skills if you are a master of trades and have traveled in the Planes.'
[Fri Nov 15 21:17:12 2002] You say, 'i am willing to help and am a master of trades'
[Fri Nov 15 21:17:12 2002] Aid Grimel says 'Excellent! I am looking for a smith to add a special imbue to Councilman Taldarius's armor. Are you well versed in the art of smithing?'
[Fri Nov 15 21:17:22 2002] You say, 'I am well versed in the art of smithing'
[Fri Nov 15 21:17:22 2002] Aid Grimel says 'Thank you for offering to help Bakara. Take this breastplate and clean it with a diluted acid wash to get all of the debris out of it. Brew the wash by combining acid and a three celestial essence's. Once the armor is cleaned, coat it with hurricane temper. Finally add two black diamonds of nightmare to the breastplate. This should provide adequate protection for our next journey.'
Authors note: Acid wash trivials at 151. I completed all stages of this, without failures (250 Smith) and handed the final product in (A BP with 22AC and no stats).
[Fri Nov 15 21:17:30 2002] Aid Grimel smiles. 'What a wonderful job! Councilman Taldarius shall wear this on our next adventure, I am sure he will find it more protective than his old one. Take this signet as a token of my gratitude. If you are not too busy I have another task, do you have any brewing skill?'
I recieved a POS trinket, AC2 +2 to some stats and as you can see, the ability to furthur my quest should I decide to GM Brewing. It's unknown at this time if you can start with ANY skill or if smithing is it.
It's of note that I have the following soulmarks completed:
TT, Bertox, MM, Saryn, TZ & VZ.
Good luck!
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From Gorthag:
200 Smithing + 15% skill is enough for the skill requirement - so is most likely 201 or 210 min, but dont have enough/correct flags
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From Khoren, regarding flags needed to get the start of the quest:
Bertox is enough.
I do NOT have TT, MM, Saryn, VZ, or TZ. I got Bertox tonight after we killed him, and he gave me the BP. Until I got Bertox, I could not do it. And this is the only flag I've gotten since I tried last.
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From Khoren:
I handed in the AC 25 Imbued Breastplate to Aid Grimel, and got the hardened leather signet. But alas...
You say, 'I have brewing skill.'
Aid Grimel says 'I am sorry but one who has such limited knowledge of the Planes would not be able to assist me.'
So now we know...
Step 1 is doable as a grandmaster smith that has the following:
Storms/Valor (Mavuin)
NightmareB Access (Thelin)
CoD (Grummus)
Bertoxx Key (Carprin)
Bertoxxulous
Halls of Honor (Aerin'Dar)
Bastion of Thunder (Storm Giants)
Tactics (Manaetic Behemoth)
Notably I do NOT have Terris Thule (Torment Access), HoH Trials (HoHB access), Mithaniel Marr, Saryrn, Agnarr, TZ, or VZ. Naturally, I have no idea which of the above flags are not necessary for step one, except that of that list Bertoxx is definitely the most important because until I got that one, the rest weren't good enough. And it is, of course, possible that some other flag besides Bertoxx would have given access to Step 1 as well, but I'll never be able to figure that out for myself.
Step 2 is doable as a grandmaster brewer, but requires something not listed in the flags above.
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From Ashur, regarding step 2 (brewing):
224 unmodified brewing allowed me to get the quest whereas 218 + geerlok didn't. Completed it. Minor upgrade to earring and told me to work on my jewelcraft skills for next part.
Clay Signet
Slot: Ear
STR +4 STA +4 WIS +4 INT +4
WT: 0.1 Size: Tiny
Race: All
Class: All
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From Fulorian:
(Mith Marr flag is needed for the brewing step)
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From Ashur regarding the brewing step:
He didn't give the quest until I had 224 unmodified brewing. He could have been looking for a minimum of 220 unmodified (no geerlok equipped), but he refused to give the quest with 218 + Geerlok.
He gives you a No Drop 4-slot container (Brew Barrel) and some fermenting powder. You'll need to ask him again several times for more powder since you'll need a minimum of 3 to complete the quest. You make Twice Brewed Contitutionals from combining 2 Kaladim Constitutionals, some Purified Water (2 Water Flasks + Celestial Essence) and the Fermenting Powder.
I got a skill gain to 225 making the third Twice Brewed Constitutional. So the Trivial is 225 or higher.
The Twice Brewed Constitutional has the same stats as a regular Kaladim Constitutional, but No Drop.
Combine 3 Twice Brewed Constitutionals and the Leather Signet from the Smithing Quest in the Brew Barrel (not consumed!) to recieve a Portable Drink (WT 10.00 No Drop, no real stats). Give Aide Grimel the Portable Drink and the Brew Barrel to recieve the Clay Signet.
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Various key phrases for other steps
The JC Keyphrase is: "I would like to put my jewel craft skills to the test." Unfortunately, although I have the skill, I am not eligible to do the next phase yet. The only flags I know of that I am lacking up to Sol Ro access are Saryrn, RZ, and Agnarr.
I was playing around with him and I stumbled onto the phrase needed for the tailoring part: "I am skilled with a needle" resulted in him insulting my tailoring skills. Someone with a decent tailorish should try talking to him.
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From Ashur, regarding the jewelcraft step:
Aid Grimel says 'My hand was crushed when I used it to deflect a blow from a War Boar that was headed towards Taldarius's back. For some time afterwards my hand was crippled but Brell saw to it I regained full use of it. The ring I used to wear was damaged beyond repair and my hand was never steady enough to etch a new one. If you would make me a new one by combing a mounted blue diamond, the etching dust and etching tools in a jewelry kit. Then take the faceted gem and combine it with a bar of pure enchanted velium and my signet. I have no idea how the pure bars are made. You may want to seek the help of the ice dwarves.'
Given No Drop Etching Dust
Combine Etching Dust + Mounted Blue Diamond + Etching Tools in a Planar Jewelry Kit = Faceted Blue Diamond
Trivial is above 225
Asked most every coldain in Thurgadin and Icewell about pure enchanted velium and pure velium to no avail.
DNC in Planar Jewelry Kit and Planar Forge:
Enchanted Bar of Velium x2
Enchanted Bar of Velium + Celestial Essence
Enchanted Bar of Velium x2 + Celestial Essence
Bar of Velium x2
Bar of Velium + Celestial Essence
Bar of Velium x2 + Celestial Essence
Enchanted Bar of Velium + Faceted Blue Diamond + Clay Signet
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From Yalum:
You say, 'what bar of pure enchanted velium'
[Mon Nov 25 07:19:45 2002] Meg Tucter says 'Wow that is an odd request Yalum. Very rarely do we make an item that requires a pure bar of metal. Pure enchanted velium bars are made by combing three enchanted velium bars in a forge along with a coldain velium temper, pure water and a Coldain smithy hammer. Tis quite expensive but it enables the crafter to obtain pure working materials.'
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From Ashur regarding attempts to make the JC combine:
Got the bar of enchanted pure velium made, then attempted to combine it as directed with the Faceted Blue Diamond made earlier and the Signet in a Planar JC Kit.
DNC
Tried it without the signet, tried it in a planar forge. All DNC.
~~~
Sooo ... at this point, we are unsure if the quest recipe is broken, or if the NPC is giving out incorrect hail text ...
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From Bakara:
Aid Grimel, PoK Library at the top of the elevator.
[Fri Nov 15 21:16:00 2002] You say, 'Hail, Aid Grimel'
[Fri Nov 15 21:16:01 2002] Aid Grimel says 'Greetings and Salutations Bakara! I am Grimel, aid to the mighty paladin Councilman Taldarius. In between his duties to the city, Taldarius and I spend most of our time in the Planes cleansing evil. Even now I am preparing for battle. Taldarius intends to go further into the Planes than ever before on our next trip and I am working on gathering the special supplies we need. If you are willing to help I may have some use for your skills if you are a master of trades and have traveled in the Planes.'
[Fri Nov 15 21:17:12 2002] You say, 'i am willing to help and am a master of trades'
[Fri Nov 15 21:17:12 2002] Aid Grimel says 'Excellent! I am looking for a smith to add a special imbue to Councilman Taldarius's armor. Are you well versed in the art of smithing?'
[Fri Nov 15 21:17:22 2002] You say, 'I am well versed in the art of smithing'
[Fri Nov 15 21:17:22 2002] Aid Grimel says 'Thank you for offering to help Bakara. Take this breastplate and clean it with a diluted acid wash to get all of the debris out of it. Brew the wash by combining acid and a three celestial essence's. Once the armor is cleaned, coat it with hurricane temper. Finally add two black diamonds of nightmare to the breastplate. This should provide adequate protection for our next journey.'
Authors note: Acid wash trivials at 151. I completed all stages of this, without failures (250 Smith) and handed the final product in (A BP with 22AC and no stats).
[Fri Nov 15 21:17:30 2002] Aid Grimel smiles. 'What a wonderful job! Councilman Taldarius shall wear this on our next adventure, I am sure he will find it more protective than his old one. Take this signet as a token of my gratitude. If you are not too busy I have another task, do you have any brewing skill?'
I recieved a POS trinket, AC2 +2 to some stats and as you can see, the ability to furthur my quest should I decide to GM Brewing. It's unknown at this time if you can start with ANY skill or if smithing is it.
It's of note that I have the following soulmarks completed:
TT, Bertox, MM, Saryn, TZ & VZ.
Good luck!
~~~
From Gorthag:
200 Smithing + 15% skill is enough for the skill requirement - so is most likely 201 or 210 min, but dont have enough/correct flags
~~~
From Khoren, regarding flags needed to get the start of the quest:
Bertox is enough.
I do NOT have TT, MM, Saryn, VZ, or TZ. I got Bertox tonight after we killed him, and he gave me the BP. Until I got Bertox, I could not do it. And this is the only flag I've gotten since I tried last.
~~~
From Khoren:
I handed in the AC 25 Imbued Breastplate to Aid Grimel, and got the hardened leather signet. But alas...
You say, 'I have brewing skill.'
Aid Grimel says 'I am sorry but one who has such limited knowledge of the Planes would not be able to assist me.'
So now we know...
Step 1 is doable as a grandmaster smith that has the following:
Storms/Valor (Mavuin)
NightmareB Access (Thelin)
CoD (Grummus)
Bertoxx Key (Carprin)
Bertoxxulous
Halls of Honor (Aerin'Dar)
Bastion of Thunder (Storm Giants)
Tactics (Manaetic Behemoth)
Notably I do NOT have Terris Thule (Torment Access), HoH Trials (HoHB access), Mithaniel Marr, Saryrn, Agnarr, TZ, or VZ. Naturally, I have no idea which of the above flags are not necessary for step one, except that of that list Bertoxx is definitely the most important because until I got that one, the rest weren't good enough. And it is, of course, possible that some other flag besides Bertoxx would have given access to Step 1 as well, but I'll never be able to figure that out for myself.
Step 2 is doable as a grandmaster brewer, but requires something not listed in the flags above.
~~~
From Ashur, regarding step 2 (brewing):
224 unmodified brewing allowed me to get the quest whereas 218 + geerlok didn't. Completed it. Minor upgrade to earring and told me to work on my jewelcraft skills for next part.
Clay Signet
Slot: Ear
STR +4 STA +4 WIS +4 INT +4
WT: 0.1 Size: Tiny
Race: All
Class: All
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From Fulorian:
(Mith Marr flag is needed for the brewing step)
~~~
From Ashur regarding the brewing step:
He didn't give the quest until I had 224 unmodified brewing. He could have been looking for a minimum of 220 unmodified (no geerlok equipped), but he refused to give the quest with 218 + Geerlok.
He gives you a No Drop 4-slot container (Brew Barrel) and some fermenting powder. You'll need to ask him again several times for more powder since you'll need a minimum of 3 to complete the quest. You make Twice Brewed Contitutionals from combining 2 Kaladim Constitutionals, some Purified Water (2 Water Flasks + Celestial Essence) and the Fermenting Powder.
I got a skill gain to 225 making the third Twice Brewed Constitutional. So the Trivial is 225 or higher.
The Twice Brewed Constitutional has the same stats as a regular Kaladim Constitutional, but No Drop.
Combine 3 Twice Brewed Constitutionals and the Leather Signet from the Smithing Quest in the Brew Barrel (not consumed!) to recieve a Portable Drink (WT 10.00 No Drop, no real stats). Give Aide Grimel the Portable Drink and the Brew Barrel to recieve the Clay Signet.
~~~
Various key phrases for other steps
The JC Keyphrase is: "I would like to put my jewel craft skills to the test." Unfortunately, although I have the skill, I am not eligible to do the next phase yet. The only flags I know of that I am lacking up to Sol Ro access are Saryrn, RZ, and Agnarr.
I was playing around with him and I stumbled onto the phrase needed for the tailoring part: "I am skilled with a needle" resulted in him insulting my tailoring skills. Someone with a decent tailorish should try talking to him.
~~~
From Ashur, regarding the jewelcraft step:
Aid Grimel says 'My hand was crushed when I used it to deflect a blow from a War Boar that was headed towards Taldarius's back. For some time afterwards my hand was crippled but Brell saw to it I regained full use of it. The ring I used to wear was damaged beyond repair and my hand was never steady enough to etch a new one. If you would make me a new one by combing a mounted blue diamond, the etching dust and etching tools in a jewelry kit. Then take the faceted gem and combine it with a bar of pure enchanted velium and my signet. I have no idea how the pure bars are made. You may want to seek the help of the ice dwarves.'
Given No Drop Etching Dust
Combine Etching Dust + Mounted Blue Diamond + Etching Tools in a Planar Jewelry Kit = Faceted Blue Diamond
Trivial is above 225
Asked most every coldain in Thurgadin and Icewell about pure enchanted velium and pure velium to no avail.
DNC in Planar Jewelry Kit and Planar Forge:
Enchanted Bar of Velium x2
Enchanted Bar of Velium + Celestial Essence
Enchanted Bar of Velium x2 + Celestial Essence
Bar of Velium x2
Bar of Velium + Celestial Essence
Bar of Velium x2 + Celestial Essence
Enchanted Bar of Velium + Faceted Blue Diamond + Clay Signet
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From Yalum:
You say, 'what bar of pure enchanted velium'
[Mon Nov 25 07:19:45 2002] Meg Tucter says 'Wow that is an odd request Yalum. Very rarely do we make an item that requires a pure bar of metal. Pure enchanted velium bars are made by combing three enchanted velium bars in a forge along with a coldain velium temper, pure water and a Coldain smithy hammer. Tis quite expensive but it enables the crafter to obtain pure working materials.'
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From Ashur regarding attempts to make the JC combine:
Got the bar of enchanted pure velium made, then attempted to combine it as directed with the Faceted Blue Diamond made earlier and the Signet in a Planar JC Kit.
DNC
Tried it without the signet, tried it in a planar forge. All DNC.
~~~
Sooo ... at this point, we are unsure if the quest recipe is broken, or if the NPC is giving out incorrect hail text ...
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