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  • REPOST: How to do Ornate Chain and make a profit!

    I'm reposting this from the old boards because I feel it's a valuable way for a poor smith to make it through the hellacious 122-155 area in Smithing.

    I figured out how to get through the ornate chain bit - and make a profit.

    Last night I went from 133 in ornate chain to 155, where gold mail trivials. I made 500 plat in selling off my successes - after the cost of gold and patterns - and made another 700 plat while hunting. Not bad considering I spent 1k on ornate chain 3 months ago doing it the expensive way!

    I did it this way...

    1) Clear out all your bags. Get as many empty spaces as you can. Then make sure you have at least 1 stack of water, and 1 file.

    2) Go to High Hold Keep. I'm kos to the guards there, after doing 3 levels on nobles, and the related factions are freeport militia and corrupt queynos guards. I never go to freeport or Queynos, so I really don't care if I'm kos.

    Kill guards. Each guard drops a fs sword. I would kill them until I had 65 fs swords... don't bother killing the captains, they drop "rusty" swords instead of fs. Each guard also drops up to about 8 plat, so I got a nice chunk of change even while hoarding the swords. Strength buffs are a must, as I went to 250 weight very quickly. You can sow inside HHK, and the aggro range of the guards is small. The only things to watch out for are Ran Firespinner and Carson McCabe, and they're out of the way.

    I got 65 swords in about an hour, even with 2 other people farming the guards.

    3) Take your swords to High Hold Pass (1 zone over). There's a forge there behind a merchant's house. The merchant sells water, and while I was dubious to him, I could use sneak and buy water from him. Plus merchants were only dubious, so they didn't aggro me when I uninvised and smithed.

    1 fs sword + water = 1 small brick hq ore + 1 small piece hq ore
    3 small pieces hq ore + water = 1 small brick hq ore
    3 small brick of hq ore + water = 1 large brick of hq ore
    1 large brick of hq ore + water + file = 2 hq rings (that's what you need).

    Large bricks of hq ore weigh an insane amount, so it's best to complete the process up to hq rings rather than lug hq ore around. HQ ore doesn't stack, but the rings do.

    I needed about 9 stacks of hq rings to get to 155.

    4) Bank your rings in HHK. I was kos to the banker (she's not on different faction - she is on guard faction), but I would invis, run behind her, remove invis, use her. Sometimes she would turn around and attack, but I could bank through her attacking, and then run to the zone.

    5) Repeat steps 2-4 until you have enough hq rings. 65 swords makes around 2 stacks 6 rings, or 46 rings.

    Extra loot made while farming: around 700 plat.

    Then I made the ornate armour in Sanctus Seru, because it has chainmail patterns, water, and electrum/gold bars all within close reach. Plus I'm not KOS there

    I succeeded far more than I thought I would, and skillups far faster than I remembered.

    I ended up with a 500 plat profit, because I did not buy the ore.

    I then went and used my 3 stacks of leather padding to make fs armour. I did loose 1200 plat going from 155 to 164 (when I ran out of padding). As far as I can tell, there is no cheap way to gather blocks of mq ore (required for fs armour). The 1200 price tag was on molds and ore - my padding I farmed.

    So I came out about even for the evening, and at 164 skill


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  • #2
    gratz!

    Congratz Harvyst, quite ingenious. I unfortunately got to 175 smithing the OLD way, making banded. After THAT patch, I got to 177 or 178 doing fine plate, I got a couple of skill ups to 180 making acrylia chain and plate, and up to 182 making the blessed sickle parts. I made 10 attempts at the FP BP (188) but got no skillups. So now for me, It's hunting time, try to get that death buffer in 51...

    Keep up the good work friend!

    Windru Peacekeaper
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    • #3
      How to do Ornate Chain and make a profit!

      I imagine you can kill the guards in Paineel or the DE guards in Nektulos for their fine steel as well. Good plan though. Too bad I'm at 175 and can't use this method :?
      Tyrfing Snowmantle
      Barbarian Shaman of the 47th Circle
      Smithing 177, Pottery 181, Brewing 154, Baking 142

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      • #4
        For those who don't want to lose faction with HHK, u can just disarm the guards. Then for those of us with a way to drop aggro (like us monks with fd), u just drop aggro and move onto the next guard.

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        • #5
          ornate chain question

          what lvl are the hk guards?
          and also last time i went to farm fs for cash in nek forest i found the guards up to the bridge all drop rusty now
          dont know bout the gate guards to neriak... im not that high
          and the hk guards are on what faction? fp, qeynos, or their own? cause ill kill my hk and fp faction(dubius and kos) but id rather keep qeynos faction (one of 3 old world towns i can walk into, cept the cleric guild im barely kos there now) been workin on it) clean
          -kirus :twisted:

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          • #6
            Having farmed the Paineel Guards for cash for months, I can definately say that they do not drop Finesteel. They drop Bronze longswords and Kite sheilds every time though which nets about 8pp per kill.

            Don't know about the DE guards...yet :twisted:
            Arrakeen Naed'Shoj
            Smith and Priest of Tunare's Blessings

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            • #7
              Nektulos guards also drop bronze. As a newbie I made plat by looting the corpses of unlooted guard corpses at the bridge. I'd sell the bronze swords and bank the plat.

              Gnolls in SK and in Splitpaw drop FS weapons. Unfortnately, there are no convenient forges near Paw, which means lugging them to HH or Qeynos.
              Androsulach Phlithvelve
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              • #8
                Actually, disarm wouldn't be as effective since you could only get one clearing's worth of weaps~ That and you don't get the pp off of the guards that helps it be a little more profitable as discussed.
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                • #9
                  This is awesome thanks so much for the repost
                  Ghratch Gearheart
                  58th Troll Shaman of Unconquered
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                  • #10
                    what lvl are the hk guards?
                    and also last time i went to farm fs for cash in nek forest i found the guards up to the bridge all drop rusty now
                    dont know bout the gate guards to neriak... im not that high
                    and the hk guards are on what faction? fp, qeynos, or their own? cause ill kill my hk and fp faction(dubius and kos) but id rather keep qeynos faction (one of 3 old world towns i can walk into, cept the cleric guild im barely kos there now) been workin on it) clean
                    The guards are, I believe high 30's low 40's. I know I have seen 40's farming them for xp.

                    The guards are on the following faction:

                    Guards of HHK
                    Carson McCabe (the guy upstairs)
                    Corrupt Guards of Queynos
                    Freeport Militia

                    You will loose faction with Queynos and Freeport.

                    I never go there so I don't care


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                    • #11
                      For us druids/wizards,


                      Is there any druid ports that are very close to a forge? Im thinks of going to SK or Paw, binding, filling up with Fine Steel Weapons, and porting myself to a forge..


                      Is this feasable? Maybe PoK would be the easiest one? Any better ideas?


                      -Lilosh
                      Venerable Noishpa Taltos , Planar Druid, Educated Halfling, and GM Baker.
                      President and Founder of the Loudmouthed Sarcastic Halflings Society
                      Also, Smalltim

                      So take the fact of having a dirty mind as proof that you are world-savvy; it's not a flaw, it's an asset, if nothing else, it's a defense - Sanna

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                      • #12
                        oops

                        I feel like a moron. ops: You are quite correct, they do drop bronze. I can only claim temporary insanity caused by work. I am positive however that the kobolds in Solb and Hill Giants in Rathe Mtns drop fine steel. :P
                        Tyrfing Snowmantle
                        Barbarian Shaman of the 47th Circle
                        Smithing 177, Pottery 181, Brewing 154, Baking 142

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                        • #13
                          I can't think of A druid port that would get you in same zone as a forge, but I can think of a wizzy port that will for you nukers. Gfay will have you only a short run with enhanced run-speed from a forge.

                          Now that I think of it, is there a forge in surefall(I didn't see one on the trade supplies page). If so that would be your best bet for it. If not I think GD would be the quickest for it, or Nexus if you don't mind the lag in Bazaar.
                          Arrakeen Naed'Shoj
                          Smith and Priest of Tunare's Blessings

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                          • #14
                            There's also the simpler method, that's available to all casters / healers rather than just Porters of whatever stripe - bind yourself at a forge, then do your farming.
                            "You mustn't do that, it's Evil!"
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                            • #15
                              Kenny ,

                              That means you only get one round of farming. After you gate, you have no easy way to get back to the hunting ground.

                              Whereas binding near SK or Paw, then porting myself to ...err... PoK, I guess, then gating back means I can farm FS to my hearts content!


                              -Lilosh
                              Venerable Noishpa Taltos , Planar Druid, Educated Halfling, and GM Baker.
                              President and Founder of the Loudmouthed Sarcastic Halflings Society
                              Also, Smalltim

                              So take the fact of having a dirty mind as proof that you are world-savvy; it's not a flaw, it's an asset, if nothing else, it's a defense - Sanna

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